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  • Vguy72
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    Phish fans not sitting in their assigned seats?....

    ....I took that personally Mr. Ones.
    I prefer having a seat these days, but I'm flexible. Just bought Widespread Panic tix for here in March. Options for floor with no seats or loft with seats. I picked seats this go around.

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    The new kids in town at our house. Only shot of them together at the moment. They move too fast. Need to work on a beauty shot like Mr. Ones has. The ginger boy is Tigger (shelter name) and we're thinking of going with Hobbs or Otto. The tuxedo boy is Pepe (Le Pew? shelter name) and Checkers or Big Boy Pete are in the running. Feel free to vote on those choices. Both strays from the shelter in Ridgway and Tigger was one of those two days from death cases that made it. Tough row to hoe but it's all good now. So far they like the Dead more than classical.
    Cheers

  • Mr. Ones
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    The Older They Get...

    ...The Harder It Is To Stand Up!!

    I almost hate to admit this, but these days, if I can sit and listen, I quite prefer that now. I realize that I cannot dance sitting down, but at my tender, advanced age, sitting and listening is good!!
    Occasionally, I'll get front row seats of this section or that, and really look forward to being able to SIT!! and don't you know usually, there will be rude, entitled fans up dancing, and blocking my view. Phish fans are notorious for going to areas that they have not purchased tickets for and feeling like they own the place.
    I know, I know, "Hey kids, get off my lawn". I guess I AM that guy now. Sad.

    Last 5:

    Chicago-Live at Carnegie Hall-Disc 4 of 4-disc set from early '07
    Jeff Buckley-Live A L'Olympia
    Jeff Buckley-Mystery White Boy
    Peter Gabriel Live '87, first of 2-Bonus Discs from So re-issue
    Monkees-Disc 4 of new Headquarters 4-cd box

  • Crow Told Me
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    Greetings from the Jam Band Ghetto

    Kind of surprising, but not really, to see that the TTB's outstanding "I am the Moon" has been completely ignored by the Grammys and critics' year-end best of lists. It seems clear that once you get pegged as a "jam band" the recording industry and critics decide that there's no point in taking your music seriously, no matter how many people flock to your shows or how good your recorded output actually is. It happened to the GOGD, it happened to Phish, and to pretty much everybody who's gotten pegged as part of the jam band scene. Now it's happening to TTB, and it'll happen to Goose or whoever else comes along.

    Have to say: I've never understood this. Bands that can actually play their instruments in a live setting, and who can even improvise on them, and develop devoted audiences on that basis, they don't count somehow. Probably because their music doesn't lend itself to radio or tik tok, and doesn't have much to do with the trends that wannabe hipsters pride themselves in being up on. Meanwhile, you get "bands" that are basically one guy and his girlfriend with a laptop in mommy's basement, who would get eaten alive if they tried to play in front of more than a couple dozen people, and that's considered a cutting edge rock band these days.

    I guess it doesn't matter anyway. The jam band world is its own ecosystem, sustained by us die hards who like to stand up at concerts (maybe even dance) and who want to hear bands that can actually play for a couple hours without endlessly repeating the same three licks and the only groove they know.

    OK, end of rant. Last five!

    Charles Mingus: East Coasting
    The Meters: Look a Py Py
    ABB: The Cream of the Crop 2003
    GOGD: The Warfield October 1980
    Sturgill Simpson: Cuttin Grass

  • daverock
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    How about lying down?

    If I remember rightly, a lot people used to lie on the floor waiting for Hawkwind to come on. And then struggle to their feet when the band came on. Maybe it was just me.
    I saw Pink Floyd in a huge air hangar on the Animals tour in 1977. After hours of sitting on the floor, the band came on, and one bloke in front of me stood up. The guy next to me shouted at him to sit down, and then turned to me and said, "The Floyd deserve to be listened to." It was partly this attitude that led to punk.
    Mind you, that was the opposite end of the spectrum . Short haired herberts jumping about, barging into you. You've heard of the blues - that was the black and blues.

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    Sitting down = NG

    Sixtus, a good 5-6 years back, Bonnie Raitt's show at Red Rocks -- for the first time -- featured reserve seats down front. With most acts in the past, including hers, the first 20 rows was Gen Admission -- and the rabid fans (why are you looking at me?) would line up at 8-9am on the east stairs for the dash into the front rows as doors opened at ~6pm. Long haul but that's the cost of the first few rows at the Rocks. This always guaranteed that the core audience really wanted that artist, that show and we (yes, '78 til, say, 3-4 years ago) made sure every artist we saw (GD, ABB, Dylan, Raitt, etc) knew we were in support.

    Fast forward to the first year that Bonnie made reserved seats out of the first 20 rows. We assumed it was a sop to an aging fan base. (I manned the stairs from my earliest 20s to my latest 50s before slacking off.) But with reserved seats, a lot of newcomers were really enamored of their oh-so-tiny territory and everyone remained seated. Bonnie delivered but was clearly mystified by the lack of froth coming from the audience. Oh well, everyone finally decided that it was okay to get up and boogey during the encore and Bonnie stayed for a few more tunes. But I was appalled at the lack of audience excitement and involvement in giving the performer something to work with or off of. Same thing once with a Lyle Lovett show -- apparently, it was date night. Lyle's Large (swing) Band hits the stage hot and I jump up and start dancing (in my peculiar way). Some woman behind me yells "Sit Down!" and I look around and I swear I am the only person out of 10,000 on my feet. Oh boy. Later, when it rained, it was "okay" to stand up...

    If it's a theater show, I've sometimes sat down. But outdoor arena ala Red Rocks?! Only for the occasional break from the boogeyinig. Thankfully, that was a one-off and Bonnie killed it this past summer. But that sitting down jive can sure kill the vibe.

  • Sixtus_
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    Dennis, VGuy: I too have on many an occasion pondered how the world might exist if we were thrown backward technologically speaking; this discussion and Dennis' reference invokes the ever-awesome Twilight Zone post-apocalyptic episode with the guy who loves to read and gets locked in the vault when the world ends and finds he has all of the books in the world to read but then breaks his glasses.

    Same reason I still send my bills through the snail mail, people. That one has just stuck with me though more as a habit than really thinking the world will end; but these are heady times

    Recovering from COVID, tested positive on Monday but feel myself coming out of the swamp. The well of gravity was inescapable for the first 24 hours, then my antibodies kicked into overdrive - it was noticeable. Second time in a year (Jan'22, first timer) despite vax & boost, but hey, now I am super-vaxxed, amirite?

    Daverock - that's really cool you're falling into a Fleetwood Mac-hole. they are a solid pillar in the halls of music. Saw them about 8 or 9 years ago, Iggy got us tickets and while I loved the music at the show, I was astounded how everyone just sat in their seats. I haven't been to a rock show in a looooong time (if ever?) that no one was up and moving. It felt weird. But then again the demographic did sway upward, so I get it on that level. It was still weird. But the music was phenomenal as was the production.

    Be Well People.
    Sixtus

  • daverock
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    Cheers, folks

    Thanks to all those who recommended "Then Play On" by Fleetwood Mac. ( and apologies to those who are sick of hearing about it). An incredible album - I can't believe I had never heard of it, or seen it recommended anywhere else in all these years. The cover reminds me of those on the early 70's Quicksilver Messenger Service albums a bit. And the first track reminds me of QSM of that period, too - slightly Latin in feel. That track is okay, but the album really picks up after that . Great guitar sound, songs, rhythm. Maybe I should have got one of the boxes featuring it...although I am guessing there is nothing else in their catalogue quite like this one.

    Last Dead, to keep it sweet, the second show in Dicks Picks 33. 10/10/76. Also great -I'm tempted to get the vinyl now.

  • Vguy72
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    Attention Proudfoot....

    ....I know you're a Motorhead fan. But if you are also a Vans footwear fan, check out the Vans/Motorhead collaboration. Pretty cool Christmas idea from Mrs Proudfoot?

  • Oroborous
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    What the hey?
    (Insert sound of crickets)
    Must be shoveling?

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....methinks all of us agree.
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Baby Blue encore. 😁

I didn't realize the cause..

Canada is exporting unwanted snow and weaponizing terrible storm systems the likes of Alberta Clippers and Polar Vortexes, then unleashing them here in the US.

I'm going to build a wall to keep this unwanted activity out. It seems they are only exporting their bad weather, so they have extra time to blow leaves and have fall and early spring lakefront picnics. Who's with me?

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dmcvt - you mentioned the Euro 72 shows. The run can be found on Spotify.

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When I met the cat in a liquor store parking lot in October I thought I detected a certain level of je ne sais quoi -- which, in French, literally means "this guy is %$@#! nuts! -- and just so you know, my dad grew up in Rochester and I was born in Manhattan. So's I KNOW New Yawk...

And folks, Vguy's fingers do the talking... when I met the man at the Rocks this past summer, he smiled, he cackled, he shared a doob, he fist-bumped at least a dozen people, then I had to chase him down. Imagine you're at Red Rocks, it's packed with people, and you're running up a set of stairs yelling "VGUY! IT'S ME, HENDRIXFREAK"! (Not exactly "Hey Bob, it's Joe"...) Well I got a few looks... But thinking back, Vguy said little. (I must have been babbling, especially after a couple tokes...) And I knew I had to make it to the other side of the amphitheater to hunt down Nappyrags before the TTB came on stage, so we had little time. Anyway, in print, the man is downright loquacious! (Points? Do I get points for weaving in "loquacious"?)

Anyhoo, couldn't sleep past 4:11 am this morning (why couldn't it have been 420??), so I turned on a light and read to the end of a killer book: Bob Dylan: On a Couch & Fifty Cents a Day by Peter McKenzie, whose mom and dad took in Dylan in summer '61. Dylan slept on their couch for months and made a few still unheard tapes while a guest. The "Dylan People" -- meaning those who crave every taped burp and fart -- are going wild over this news.

Anyway, I just rec'd the John Mayall box set of his first 10 years in the biz -- 35 CDs and a hardcover book priced at $350 (tempted but of course no go), but a friend tipped me off that a discount house had a limited number for sale for $80! How fast could I press the "Spend" button??? Anyway, someone caught Mayall and his band at Klook's Kleek in London in December '64 and the tape is freakin' well made, you can hear every detail of each drum component, guitar, vocal, harp, sax, organ and even bass. Between that box and the Dylan '66 box, I've got something to do between now and spring.

And only one cup of joe so far................ And Jim, no need for a northern wall -- the Canadians have seen quite enough these past six years; no Canadian wants in, thus they send the snow. Mmmm, craving a doughnut right now...

Well.. that made me chuckle. A sincere apology to our Northern friends and neighbors.

I think it was Garcia who commented in an interview something to the effect ...the music thing is a just a ruse, we're in this for the comedy... There is a comedian named Jerry Garcia from Southern California. I'm guessing the other Jerry would approve.

And we Western New Yaawwkers prefer to be called “Southern Canadian” to disassociate ourselves from the aaa, “other NY” lol.
Oh, and the accent, often hard to pinpoint, is a Great Lakes accent, similar to Cleveland, Chicago, Detroit, Milwaukee etc
Dooooooaaaaanuuttsss, did someone say donuts?
Horts eh!

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First we sent the Americans William Shatner. Then Justin Bieber. Still not enough.
Now…the snow. The Snow! (Maniacal Laughter!). Bury Hamburg! Swamp Orchard Park! Buffalo, a winter deluge! (More maniacal laughter)

PS - Please return Shania Twain. Still hot.

Oh, the horror!

I'm doubling down on my building a wall idea. We need to encapsulate the whole country in a giant glass bubble. Before you laugh.. this has been done before with much success (1), and... we cannot take the risk for another Beib infecting our already challenged gene pool.

(1) Source: The Simpsons Movie

# Deport Justin Bieber

How does any of this tie into the GD? During Homers Beer Detox episode, Homer is shown shackled to chair listening to the album "Long Strange Trip To Shelbyville" where he listens to Shakedown Street for three days as a detox technique lamenting, "and they're only on the second verse"

Just squeezed in a shortie listen to 7/9/89 Giants Stadium. The sequence from Brown Eyed Women through I Know You Rider gets me every time. Recommended summer show from an under rated box that will help thaw the ice that might be building up in your joints. If that doesn't work I hear it was blistering hot out when the GD joined Willie at 7/1/78, Arrowhead Stadium.

Ok, I'm done for the day, back to more thoughtful posters and more insightful analyses of music, culture and all things Grateful Dead.

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Deescalation - I just found this out. In 2003 Homer Simpson was made an honorary citizen of Winnipeg, Canada. Call it even?

With all the talk about the road trips releases, I decided to play the 71 Austin show in my car last night. This morning on my way to the grocery store the Not Fade Away jam is playing. Since it’s in the middle of the song I decided to hit rewind. Nothing happens. So, I keep pushing rewind. Still nothing. WTF? It turns out that they are playing the same song on Sirius.

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Did you say "seal Canada under a giant GAS bubble"??

I'm down with deporting Beiber but NOT Shania Twain, Neil Young or Joni Mitchell.

So, That Mike (didn't realize you're Canadian, hope I haven't written anything offensive, YET), I propose to send one thousand donuts and Justin Beiber and we SWEAR we won't be on your doorstep begging for citizenship anytime in the next (oh boy, this is dicey), say, 6-12 months? If you need a sweetner, ha ha, we'll make 'em glazed donuts.

Just so you know, offering donuts to Canadians would be roughly akin to offering thousands of pizzas to Americans -- insulting? yes! cliched? yes yes! stupid? hey, it's HF!

As for GD content, boy that was some band, huh?

So goes another beautiful Sunday with blue skies on the banana belt (front range of Colorado), so I think I'll get tokin' , crack a beer and play some gee-tar -- how 'bout the traditional version of "Cocaine Blues"?

Cocaine for horses, not for men
Doctor say it'll kill me but he don't say when
Cocaine, all around my brain....

At least that's true about 25 years ago when I slipped its grip and inadvertently entered the "Opioid Years," but that's a whole 'nother story......

....yeah. Best not to dwell on that.
Just like I don't like to bring up my meth years. Boooo.
2002-2004 are years I'm not proud of.
A very evil drug.
My wife and I dug in hard regarding that crap and almost cost us our marriage.
But we turned it around.
Don't. Do. It.

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Hi MaryE, hoping you can help, I received my shipping notice with a tracking number on Oct. 27th. The shipping number has yet to show anything and I haven’t received my Daves 44. It’s not international, I live in Massachusetts…..Any other Massachusetts folks not get theirs?

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You said your first show was 4 19 82?

Impressive

I am listening to it at the tail end of a GD bender.

I am at the point where I KNOW I gotta put 'em aside for a bit

:(((

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Yep.. first show. Very limited exposure to the GD prior to the mind warp we experienced that night, a single listen to Terrapin Station plus the usual radio songs. They played Terrapin right when things started to get weird. Then that Raven Space pushed us over the edge. To Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite.

Good clean fun, oh.. and it had a Cumberland. A scary fun time was had by all.

Speaking of the Terrapins... they almost pulled it off yesterday. The Dead played on campus at Cole Field House on 3/7/81, the show just before the MSG shows that kick off the Garden Box Set. Surprisingly, they did not play Terrapin Station nor Cumberland Blues at this show, the two (sort of) MD themed songs in their cannon.

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Still missing mine in MD. My tracking number never worked. Something funny's going on. I'm guessing it was a warehouse issue. Customer service has been unresponsive.

Oh, and the two recent upgrades of 5/1169 and 12/19/69 making the rounds absolutely smoke. Fans of Dave's 43 - and who wasn't? - would be wise to seek them out.

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AJS, the universe was telling you something. Use the numbers from that release for your next powerball ticket.

Road Trips 4
Volume 3
Month 11
Date 15
Year 71
Tune # 21

But if you win, you have to split the proceeds.

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send me a PM with the details and I'll see what the Doc can discover.
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as I go into a "no GD for a while" phase, I have the following on the "last 5" list

Melvins: Nude with Boots
Stalag 13: In Control
Kraftwerk: Tour De France
Kraftwerk: Europe Endless
Nazareth: Hair of the Dog

my recent GD bender:
7/6/84
7/4/84
5/6/80 RT
5/7/80 RT
4/18/82
4/19/82
11/13/72
11/14/72
11/15/72
10/30/72
9/14/78
9/15/78

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Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I don't play the lottery.

I have an understanding with the manager of the convenience store. Whenever there is a long line of people (invariably either purchasing or checking their lottery numbers), I just walk out with my morning coffee. Of course I square up the next time I visit.

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Stretching, don’t forget to stretch before and after, don’t wanna pull any muscles!
I always seem to get burned out on Dead at the end of the year.
Good thing Xmass music is the ultimate cleanse lol.

Hey, how’s the Covid treating you? Hope your better!

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I tried to pm you, when I hit save it says can’t send message as thread has been deleted. You asked for details- I was sent a shipping notice onOct 27th, tracking has never showed anything. Customer service never responded to me( no surprise). I would appreciate some help, thanks!

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Vguy, I just read your comment about "the opioid years". Sorry to hear you went through that buddy.

To all: A very close friend of mine lost his entire bank account buying Percocet off the street. Half his problem was he didn't know where to go for help and once he was hooked he could not get off them without the sort of withdrawal pain that is depicted in Trainspotting. It's no different than heroin.

If you know anybody with this problem, seek out a doctor who prescribes Suboxone. It sits on the opioid receptors but does not make you high like methadone, so you can very easily replace an expensive habit with something therapeutic and easy without feeling like s***. Suboxone is buprenorphine coupled with another drug called naloxone, which will not allow you to fall off the wagon on a moment's notice. The naloxone will cause someone to go into a state called "forced withdrawal", which basically puts you straight into opioid withdrawal, so it would be crazy to do it. You would need to plan a 3-day detox from Suboxone to get high off of an opioid. That takes the weak moment of random opportunity, stress, or peer pressure out of the picture. I don't know why they don't advertise this medication, particularly during this huge social opioid crisis that's going on, so I wanted to pass on the info. Maybe it'll help somebody you know out there.

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MaryE is going to need your order number……

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I feel fine
Actually went back to work today

Only two days of Covid misery in all. I am lucky.

Not sure I can stretch things out with GD. When I get on a bender, I get on a bender.

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Just a quick one -that drug is useful in reversing the effects of an opiate overdose. Hopefully it's available to users and their families -it's a potential life saver. That, or something similar, used to be prescribed in the UK after someone had detoxed, so if that they used again they would go into immediate withdrawal. Not too popular, I have to say.

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PF, I was trying to make a joke about how hard you were binging, so like an athlete I was suggesting you do some stretching so as not to pull a muscle or something ; ) Obviously the joke didn’t work ; )
Glad your feeling better!!

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Still no sighting of DP44 in the UK for this viewer….

Lots of crazy UPS back and forth from US and to UK International “senders” (from 04-11 to 14-11) and not a lot else…

Slightly odd. Any ideas anyone?

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I attended this show with the group of people that I usually went to shows with back in the day and one person who had never seen the Dead before. After the show the prevailing opinion amongst the group was "a good show but the band seemed a little run down". The first timer said "it was the BEST concert he had ever seen by any band" and repeatedly expressed that thought during the entire trip home. Thinking back it makes me realize how we kind of took things for granted back then, like there will always be another show or another tour to go see. Glad we have the opportunity to relive some of those times through the shows we can purchase and the thoughts of the members here.

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Quite a few of us have had delivery problems with this release.

I suggest the following (which is what I did):

- Contact Marye via PM with your order information.

- Replay either DaP43 or Road Trips Austin 71

While it may be good, ain't nothing on DaP44 that will come close to the level of playing on those two releases.

You can also go watch the World Cup.

Sorry for your troubles.

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Plenty good to me.

Deadheads
Deadheads
Picky picky Deadheads

If your buds said that 3/9/81 and 3/10/81 were also "a little run down"...time to jettison those guys.

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Hey Nitecat, Ed Martin says, "I'm late. I'm in the weeds, but I'm working on it. Fingers crossed that I can pull it off this year!"

Always great picks, and his commentary is mighty fine too. Fingers crossed. . .

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something seems to be haywire with the PMs all right; I've reported this. Stay tuned...
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I'm in exactly the same situation as you, Doingtheneedful - UPS tracking status the same as yours (loads of US/UK international carrier departure/arrival dates, nothing since 14 November).

I received my initial 'on its way' e-mail from the Grateful Dead Store on 22 October, so this is the longest wait of any Dave's Picks subscription (and I've subscribed to all 11 years).

Starting to get worried on this one, especially if Customer Services are proving unresponsive about non-delivery.

I think I saw Colin Gould in the UK said his DP44 arrived last week, so one/some have got through.

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Thanks for the update on 31 unofficial days. Let me know if you see where it is.

Neil Young is doing a three night theater run of his 1971 documentary about the making of "harvest" in early December.

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No sooner than spoken, who should appear? But five travelling bards and their bellowing good cheer…

In other words it was on my porch floor when I got home this evening.

Usually the way… It definitely took a little longer this time, but then I recall being mostly pleasantly surprised by how rapidly other shows arrived.

Thanks as always to the Dave’s’ crew, and hopefully a fillip for anyone else over these waters still in expectation.

Take care all.

xxx

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Received here ok in the U.K. a few days ago. Mind you, a t shirt I bought from dead net store has somehow been posted via the U.S. to London Heathrow and has disappeared again for two weeks only for it to be, according to USPS, on its way to its final destination (i.e. me in Nottingham) via Korea! Go figure. I guess it’s lost.

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I just have to publicly thank Marye for correcting a serious issue with my latest order. She’s toppermost of the poppermost!!

Decided to dig into RT’s Penn St./Cornell May 1980. What could possibly go wrong??

I just also want to say that in these sometimes horrific times, I would like to wish my American friends a safe, healthy, and Happy Thanksgiving Holiday. To the North & East, best wishes to all, we need to take care of each other, now more than ever. I much appreciate the feedback coming from Canada & Europe!!

Music is (still) the Best!!

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....in Australia, and Rich Robinson decided to let him meet the foot of his guitar.
Good on you Rich. Hope you broke his jaw. Same thing happened at a Maiden concert.
You will never regret being kind 👍
Some people suck man.
Let the music play. No one cares if you get your stupid likes.
Gen X checking in. Get off my browser.

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An interesting show.

Performances being equal, I find myself liking shows where the recording / sound is great and not liking shows where the sound is subpar, again performances being more or less equal. This is probably normal.. like when a terrific recording suddenly appears and a show we thought was meh becomes a classic.

My dad used to take me to Cole Field House in the mid 70's to see the Terps play. It was loud, the acoustics boomy, full of reverb and echos. I have a soundboard of that 81 show (supposedly) and it sounds like a boomy audience tape. They just can't seem to work out the sound demons.

I can only assume the acoustics played a role in how you all perceived the show and your buddy had nothing to measure it against.

Back to your buddy that raved about the show the whole way home, great story.. but I have to ask, which one of you dosed the poor soul and did you drop him off in his front yard wearing nothing but a wrist watch? Just curious. A tip of the glass to the next pole guy.

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I'd also like to thank Marye and the mysterious Doc for sorting out a problem I had with an order recently. Reassuring for future orders - of which I am sure there will be many.

Wait Jim, were you there? Thought no one knew about that...

The first timer's frame of reference was he had seen the Police a few days earlier. Having never seen the Police myself I don't know how they compared to the Dead and if that influenced his opinion.

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Thanks to those folks in the UK posting about the arrival of DaP 44. In the beforetimes, my Dave's Picks would promptly arrive two weeks after the shipping notice. Now they take an indeterminate 5-7 weeks, and I usually get them a few days after the European crew. So news of their landing overseas eases my mind. If I can only can manage patience for another week or so. (I'll occupy my time by re-listening to days 5 and 7 of 30Days.)

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