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  • daverock
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    Pink Floyd live

    That was my impression of Pink Floyd, that from DSOM onwards they basically played sets that were quite formalised, with no improvisation and no chances taken. They were the only band from that era that I saw, who played complete albums from beginning to end in concert. I only saw them twice, though. The first one, at Knebworth in 1975 was a bit more unpredictable. They played two sets - the first of which consisted of unrecorded songs that would later appear on "Wish You Were Here" and "Animals". In 1977 when I saw them they played the whole of "Animals" followed by the whole of "Wish You Were Here", with "Money" as the encore. I never felt like seeing them again after this one.
    In some ways they were at the opposite end of the psychedelic spectrum to The Dead. They were a bit wilder earlier on, before I clambered on board.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Floyd uploads

    Not sure why they would want to extend copyright protection on crappy sounding AUDs.

    Floyd may have been another pioneering band in high quality concert sound, but they apparently weren’t smart enough to record everything.
    On the other hand, everything probably isn’t needed since they played basically identically night after night (which I read before was because the music had to match the visuals).
    I recall several years ago when I was trying to differentiate back to back nights of DSOTM, the difference was that in one of the recordings you could hear someone kick a glass bottle across the floor near the microphone.

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    Ramblings from the mine

    (Cue the instrumental version of Christmas time is here off of the Vince Guaraldi Peanuts Christmas album!)

    Since it’s supposed to be the season: just would like to echo the kindness/compassionate sentiment.
    As the world seems to be swirling down the proverbial shiter, kindness and compassion seem more important than ever! It’s the one thing every human can do, no matter what your situation or who you are.
    No matter how tough it might be for you, there’s always someone who has it worse, so even just the smallest gesture of caring can make giant difference in someone else’s journey. Just a little smile, to the right person, at the right time, could change someone’s life! It’s that simple!

    Think of how how vguy delt with that angry wing nut. Not so much the interaction itself, but hopefully perhaps the impression it made on those there that witnessed it. Maybe next time it’ll be one of them and in their subconscious they’ll now posses that ability to turn the other cheek, to let it go, to perhaps even have compassion for that guy who probably thinks he means well…forgive them as they know not what they done. Perhaps it’s all a test?
    All I know is as things appear to get more dire, the more I can try to feel kindness, especially in situations where it wouldn’t normally be the case, the better I feel. It’s like wining some kind of personal lottery to be kind, especially if the person “doesn’t deserve it”.
    When I was a doorman, one of the bellmen had this thing where if he checked someone in and they didn’t tip, or were cheap, instead of getting mad like the rest of us might do, and even go out of our way to not give them good service etc, this guy would spend the entire time the guest was with us trying to be even extra helpful and kind. Often, by the time the cheapskate left us, he’d actually end up tipping this bellmen better than if he’d just give the usual upon check in. It was cool to watch this guy take such a negative, and turn it into a positive, even if it didn’t pan out in tips.
    Like, the more folks are dicks, the more I’m going to be kind!

    So cue up Ryan Adams song Kindness, and think of at least one way you can make a difference in someone’s life today.
    Tamp down all the noise, especially at this time of year, open up that GD hippie sonar, and shed some positive light and kindness out there. I mean what else is there?

    Who’d a thunk Ain’t no time to hate, and are you kind? would become increasingly more pertinent over time.
    Yep that damn Hunter sure was a smart fellow to be sure. Although many great rock lyrics still resonate, one could argue that the Dead, especially Hunters lyrics could actually be more relevant now, 50 some years later!

    Quite the gift!
    So if some rouge bastard steals your sears poncho, or was that a real poncho? Maybe it’s just a test to see who the fallen angels are out there. Kindness tested, kindness sustained. That’s one of my favorite things about this dnet place. Oh sure we squabble and bitch about this and that, mostly nothing, but like family, we’re usually pretty cool to each other.
    So sorta like Mickey said, take these feelings, and put them out into the world and do some good.

    And please be careful and stay warm out there folks, especially those who aren’t used to this “winter” weather!
    Make like a Boy Scout and be prepared, cause like GOT’s winter is coming!

    Nice to see HF seemingly his ole self. Hopefully Nappy feeling better after another bout of sickness, and Jeff Smith and the Mrs too. Mr Jimmys had a tough year too, so hoping he and his, as well as all y’all have a safe and prosperous new year too! And anyone I missed? Oh yeah, I know DMCVTs had a rough year too!

    Ok, a couple more quick tunes before I head down the mine:
    Cue up 8 days of Hanukkah and Ain’t no Chimneys in the Projects, by Sharon Jones and the DaP Kings.
    I mean it is supposed to be a celebration and who knows how to celebrate better than Deadheads!
    Stay home, Be safe, be well, find somebody warm to snuggle with!
    Ho fuggin ho, and a Festivus for the rest of us!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Happy Festivus

    My Festivus complaint is that I have to wait too long between Boxes.
    2 Boxes per year Dave/Rhino.

    -4 F (-20 C) here with a “feels like” -26 F.

    At this point a little Cold Rain and Snow sounds warm.

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    Spreadsheet for GD shows.

    Jake R, can I ask you to please check your PM?

    Have a beautiful day.

    Regards.

  • hendrixfreak
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    Good sentiments, vguy

    The reason humans are living longer (though not in the barbaric US) is that, as toolmakers, we put a barrier between us and the environment, while wildlife, for sure, may nest and den, but otherwise they're out "there" and that makes for greater mortality. But it's vguy's tenderness in caring for others that I dig. And only 54?? (Spring chicken...)

    As for stormiest shows, I cannot recall the date(s), but more than one Red Rocks GD show was played in the pouring rain. I was pretty close and no one in front of me left. Behind me, all I saw was a multicolored collection of ponchos. (Ha! Deadhead story: I have two raincoats with me at the Rocks and it begins to pour. I grant a stranger one of them, which matched with rain pants. I.e., my valuable backcountry ensemble. After the show he walks away with the jacket. Two years later, same scenario and I see the guy wearing my jacket. So I said, 'Hey, I want that back.' He says 'Let me use it during the show.' I said 'Okay.' After the show he disappears again, forever this time. Today I recall the loss of gear, but do not want to let it make me less willing to help a fellow DH. Perhaps a faint echo of vguy's compassionate stance towards other creatures. But I'm still a little pissed!)

    Okay, by now, Dave L. has made his 2023 box decision. Mr. Norman is reviewing the tapes for anomalies and the artist is offering sketches of his/her/their approach. But will it be a box I can pass on or will it be a monster '73 pkg that recalls my first big, year-long outing (at least June to October)?? And when during the year will they drop the Wake of the Flood reissue? Early on, with the box later??

    I am the worst.............

  • PT Barnum
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    woke up this morning

    rolled outta those sheets
    looked out the window
    man, it was bleak
    5 degrees on the meter
    made me weak
    pulled back the curtains
    the sun streamed in
    rainbows everywhere as the sun shone through the ice
    then the wind began to blow
    I could see more ice in the wind
    looked up at the mountains
    covered in snow
    realized right then
    I had nowhere to go
    so I made some joe
    and turned on the tv
    they all said like a plea
    frozen in five
    think I'll just sit here and play
    dead all day.

  • proudfoot
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    I have to credit my beloved for getting us here

    She planned this trip months ago.

    THANK GOODNESS.

  • Vguy72
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    Things Are Tough All Over....

    ....except in the southwest currently. Please. Be safe out there America. Frostbite in less than ten minutes on unexposed skin. Fifty degree temp drops in literally minutes. I worry about the homeless and the animals most of all.
    Climate change is the real deal.
    I'm 54 years old and have never heard of weather like this.
    Proudfoot chose wisely.

  • proudfoot
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    "It's desert music, man"

    Name that movie!

    Spending some time in the Palm Springs area

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....methinks all of us agree.
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Baby Blue encore. 😁

I didn't realize the cause..

Canada is exporting unwanted snow and weaponizing terrible storm systems the likes of Alberta Clippers and Polar Vortexes, then unleashing them here in the US.

I'm going to build a wall to keep this unwanted activity out. It seems they are only exporting their bad weather, so they have extra time to blow leaves and have fall and early spring lakefront picnics. Who's with me?

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dmcvt - you mentioned the Euro 72 shows. The run can be found on Spotify.

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When I met the cat in a liquor store parking lot in October I thought I detected a certain level of je ne sais quoi -- which, in French, literally means "this guy is %$@#! nuts! -- and just so you know, my dad grew up in Rochester and I was born in Manhattan. So's I KNOW New Yawk...

And folks, Vguy's fingers do the talking... when I met the man at the Rocks this past summer, he smiled, he cackled, he shared a doob, he fist-bumped at least a dozen people, then I had to chase him down. Imagine you're at Red Rocks, it's packed with people, and you're running up a set of stairs yelling "VGUY! IT'S ME, HENDRIXFREAK"! (Not exactly "Hey Bob, it's Joe"...) Well I got a few looks... But thinking back, Vguy said little. (I must have been babbling, especially after a couple tokes...) And I knew I had to make it to the other side of the amphitheater to hunt down Nappyrags before the TTB came on stage, so we had little time. Anyway, in print, the man is downright loquacious! (Points? Do I get points for weaving in "loquacious"?)

Anyhoo, couldn't sleep past 4:11 am this morning (why couldn't it have been 420??), so I turned on a light and read to the end of a killer book: Bob Dylan: On a Couch & Fifty Cents a Day by Peter McKenzie, whose mom and dad took in Dylan in summer '61. Dylan slept on their couch for months and made a few still unheard tapes while a guest. The "Dylan People" -- meaning those who crave every taped burp and fart -- are going wild over this news.

Anyway, I just rec'd the John Mayall box set of his first 10 years in the biz -- 35 CDs and a hardcover book priced at $350 (tempted but of course no go), but a friend tipped me off that a discount house had a limited number for sale for $80! How fast could I press the "Spend" button??? Anyway, someone caught Mayall and his band at Klook's Kleek in London in December '64 and the tape is freakin' well made, you can hear every detail of each drum component, guitar, vocal, harp, sax, organ and even bass. Between that box and the Dylan '66 box, I've got something to do between now and spring.

And only one cup of joe so far................ And Jim, no need for a northern wall -- the Canadians have seen quite enough these past six years; no Canadian wants in, thus they send the snow. Mmmm, craving a doughnut right now...

Well.. that made me chuckle. A sincere apology to our Northern friends and neighbors.

I think it was Garcia who commented in an interview something to the effect ...the music thing is a just a ruse, we're in this for the comedy... There is a comedian named Jerry Garcia from Southern California. I'm guessing the other Jerry would approve.

And we Western New Yaawwkers prefer to be called “Southern Canadian” to disassociate ourselves from the aaa, “other NY” lol.
Oh, and the accent, often hard to pinpoint, is a Great Lakes accent, similar to Cleveland, Chicago, Detroit, Milwaukee etc
Dooooooaaaaanuuttsss, did someone say donuts?
Horts eh!

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First we sent the Americans William Shatner. Then Justin Bieber. Still not enough.
Now…the snow. The Snow! (Maniacal Laughter!). Bury Hamburg! Swamp Orchard Park! Buffalo, a winter deluge! (More maniacal laughter)

PS - Please return Shania Twain. Still hot.

Oh, the horror!

I'm doubling down on my building a wall idea. We need to encapsulate the whole country in a giant glass bubble. Before you laugh.. this has been done before with much success (1), and... we cannot take the risk for another Beib infecting our already challenged gene pool.

(1) Source: The Simpsons Movie

# Deport Justin Bieber

How does any of this tie into the GD? During Homers Beer Detox episode, Homer is shown shackled to chair listening to the album "Long Strange Trip To Shelbyville" where he listens to Shakedown Street for three days as a detox technique lamenting, "and they're only on the second verse"

Just squeezed in a shortie listen to 7/9/89 Giants Stadium. The sequence from Brown Eyed Women through I Know You Rider gets me every time. Recommended summer show from an under rated box that will help thaw the ice that might be building up in your joints. If that doesn't work I hear it was blistering hot out when the GD joined Willie at 7/1/78, Arrowhead Stadium.

Ok, I'm done for the day, back to more thoughtful posters and more insightful analyses of music, culture and all things Grateful Dead.

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Deescalation - I just found this out. In 2003 Homer Simpson was made an honorary citizen of Winnipeg, Canada. Call it even?

With all the talk about the road trips releases, I decided to play the 71 Austin show in my car last night. This morning on my way to the grocery store the Not Fade Away jam is playing. Since it’s in the middle of the song I decided to hit rewind. Nothing happens. So, I keep pushing rewind. Still nothing. WTF? It turns out that they are playing the same song on Sirius.

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Did you say "seal Canada under a giant GAS bubble"??

I'm down with deporting Beiber but NOT Shania Twain, Neil Young or Joni Mitchell.

So, That Mike (didn't realize you're Canadian, hope I haven't written anything offensive, YET), I propose to send one thousand donuts and Justin Beiber and we SWEAR we won't be on your doorstep begging for citizenship anytime in the next (oh boy, this is dicey), say, 6-12 months? If you need a sweetner, ha ha, we'll make 'em glazed donuts.

Just so you know, offering donuts to Canadians would be roughly akin to offering thousands of pizzas to Americans -- insulting? yes! cliched? yes yes! stupid? hey, it's HF!

As for GD content, boy that was some band, huh?

So goes another beautiful Sunday with blue skies on the banana belt (front range of Colorado), so I think I'll get tokin' , crack a beer and play some gee-tar -- how 'bout the traditional version of "Cocaine Blues"?

Cocaine for horses, not for men
Doctor say it'll kill me but he don't say when
Cocaine, all around my brain....

At least that's true about 25 years ago when I slipped its grip and inadvertently entered the "Opioid Years," but that's a whole 'nother story......

....yeah. Best not to dwell on that.
Just like I don't like to bring up my meth years. Boooo.
2002-2004 are years I'm not proud of.
A very evil drug.
My wife and I dug in hard regarding that crap and almost cost us our marriage.
But we turned it around.
Don't. Do. It.

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Hi MaryE, hoping you can help, I received my shipping notice with a tracking number on Oct. 27th. The shipping number has yet to show anything and I haven’t received my Daves 44. It’s not international, I live in Massachusetts…..Any other Massachusetts folks not get theirs?

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You said your first show was 4 19 82?

Impressive

I am listening to it at the tail end of a GD bender.

I am at the point where I KNOW I gotta put 'em aside for a bit

:(((

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Yep.. first show. Very limited exposure to the GD prior to the mind warp we experienced that night, a single listen to Terrapin Station plus the usual radio songs. They played Terrapin right when things started to get weird. Then that Raven Space pushed us over the edge. To Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite.

Good clean fun, oh.. and it had a Cumberland. A scary fun time was had by all.

Speaking of the Terrapins... they almost pulled it off yesterday. The Dead played on campus at Cole Field House on 3/7/81, the show just before the MSG shows that kick off the Garden Box Set. Surprisingly, they did not play Terrapin Station nor Cumberland Blues at this show, the two (sort of) MD themed songs in their cannon.

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Still missing mine in MD. My tracking number never worked. Something funny's going on. I'm guessing it was a warehouse issue. Customer service has been unresponsive.

Oh, and the two recent upgrades of 5/1169 and 12/19/69 making the rounds absolutely smoke. Fans of Dave's 43 - and who wasn't? - would be wise to seek them out.

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AJS, the universe was telling you something. Use the numbers from that release for your next powerball ticket.

Road Trips 4
Volume 3
Month 11
Date 15
Year 71
Tune # 21

But if you win, you have to split the proceeds.

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send me a PM with the details and I'll see what the Doc can discover.
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as I go into a "no GD for a while" phase, I have the following on the "last 5" list

Melvins: Nude with Boots
Stalag 13: In Control
Kraftwerk: Tour De France
Kraftwerk: Europe Endless
Nazareth: Hair of the Dog

my recent GD bender:
7/6/84
7/4/84
5/6/80 RT
5/7/80 RT
4/18/82
4/19/82
11/13/72
11/14/72
11/15/72
10/30/72
9/14/78
9/15/78

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Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I don't play the lottery.

I have an understanding with the manager of the convenience store. Whenever there is a long line of people (invariably either purchasing or checking their lottery numbers), I just walk out with my morning coffee. Of course I square up the next time I visit.

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Stretching, don’t forget to stretch before and after, don’t wanna pull any muscles!
I always seem to get burned out on Dead at the end of the year.
Good thing Xmass music is the ultimate cleanse lol.

Hey, how’s the Covid treating you? Hope your better!

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I tried to pm you, when I hit save it says can’t send message as thread has been deleted. You asked for details- I was sent a shipping notice onOct 27th, tracking has never showed anything. Customer service never responded to me( no surprise). I would appreciate some help, thanks!

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Vguy, I just read your comment about "the opioid years". Sorry to hear you went through that buddy.

To all: A very close friend of mine lost his entire bank account buying Percocet off the street. Half his problem was he didn't know where to go for help and once he was hooked he could not get off them without the sort of withdrawal pain that is depicted in Trainspotting. It's no different than heroin.

If you know anybody with this problem, seek out a doctor who prescribes Suboxone. It sits on the opioid receptors but does not make you high like methadone, so you can very easily replace an expensive habit with something therapeutic and easy without feeling like s***. Suboxone is buprenorphine coupled with another drug called naloxone, which will not allow you to fall off the wagon on a moment's notice. The naloxone will cause someone to go into a state called "forced withdrawal", which basically puts you straight into opioid withdrawal, so it would be crazy to do it. You would need to plan a 3-day detox from Suboxone to get high off of an opioid. That takes the weak moment of random opportunity, stress, or peer pressure out of the picture. I don't know why they don't advertise this medication, particularly during this huge social opioid crisis that's going on, so I wanted to pass on the info. Maybe it'll help somebody you know out there.

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MaryE is going to need your order number……

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I feel fine
Actually went back to work today

Only two days of Covid misery in all. I am lucky.

Not sure I can stretch things out with GD. When I get on a bender, I get on a bender.

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Just a quick one -that drug is useful in reversing the effects of an opiate overdose. Hopefully it's available to users and their families -it's a potential life saver. That, or something similar, used to be prescribed in the UK after someone had detoxed, so if that they used again they would go into immediate withdrawal. Not too popular, I have to say.

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PF, I was trying to make a joke about how hard you were binging, so like an athlete I was suggesting you do some stretching so as not to pull a muscle or something ; ) Obviously the joke didn’t work ; )
Glad your feeling better!!

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Still no sighting of DP44 in the UK for this viewer….

Lots of crazy UPS back and forth from US and to UK International “senders” (from 04-11 to 14-11) and not a lot else…

Slightly odd. Any ideas anyone?

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I attended this show with the group of people that I usually went to shows with back in the day and one person who had never seen the Dead before. After the show the prevailing opinion amongst the group was "a good show but the band seemed a little run down". The first timer said "it was the BEST concert he had ever seen by any band" and repeatedly expressed that thought during the entire trip home. Thinking back it makes me realize how we kind of took things for granted back then, like there will always be another show or another tour to go see. Glad we have the opportunity to relive some of those times through the shows we can purchase and the thoughts of the members here.

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Quite a few of us have had delivery problems with this release.

I suggest the following (which is what I did):

- Contact Marye via PM with your order information.

- Replay either DaP43 or Road Trips Austin 71

While it may be good, ain't nothing on DaP44 that will come close to the level of playing on those two releases.

You can also go watch the World Cup.

Sorry for your troubles.

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Plenty good to me.

Deadheads
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Picky picky Deadheads

If your buds said that 3/9/81 and 3/10/81 were also "a little run down"...time to jettison those guys.

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Hey Nitecat, Ed Martin says, "I'm late. I'm in the weeds, but I'm working on it. Fingers crossed that I can pull it off this year!"

Always great picks, and his commentary is mighty fine too. Fingers crossed. . .

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something seems to be haywire with the PMs all right; I've reported this. Stay tuned...
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I'm in exactly the same situation as you, Doingtheneedful - UPS tracking status the same as yours (loads of US/UK international carrier departure/arrival dates, nothing since 14 November).

I received my initial 'on its way' e-mail from the Grateful Dead Store on 22 October, so this is the longest wait of any Dave's Picks subscription (and I've subscribed to all 11 years).

Starting to get worried on this one, especially if Customer Services are proving unresponsive about non-delivery.

I think I saw Colin Gould in the UK said his DP44 arrived last week, so one/some have got through.

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Thanks for the update on 31 unofficial days. Let me know if you see where it is.

Neil Young is doing a three night theater run of his 1971 documentary about the making of "harvest" in early December.

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No sooner than spoken, who should appear? But five travelling bards and their bellowing good cheer…

In other words it was on my porch floor when I got home this evening.

Usually the way… It definitely took a little longer this time, but then I recall being mostly pleasantly surprised by how rapidly other shows arrived.

Thanks as always to the Dave’s’ crew, and hopefully a fillip for anyone else over these waters still in expectation.

Take care all.

xxx

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Received here ok in the U.K. a few days ago. Mind you, a t shirt I bought from dead net store has somehow been posted via the U.S. to London Heathrow and has disappeared again for two weeks only for it to be, according to USPS, on its way to its final destination (i.e. me in Nottingham) via Korea! Go figure. I guess it’s lost.

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I just have to publicly thank Marye for correcting a serious issue with my latest order. She’s toppermost of the poppermost!!

Decided to dig into RT’s Penn St./Cornell May 1980. What could possibly go wrong??

I just also want to say that in these sometimes horrific times, I would like to wish my American friends a safe, healthy, and Happy Thanksgiving Holiday. To the North & East, best wishes to all, we need to take care of each other, now more than ever. I much appreciate the feedback coming from Canada & Europe!!

Music is (still) the Best!!

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....in Australia, and Rich Robinson decided to let him meet the foot of his guitar.
Good on you Rich. Hope you broke his jaw. Same thing happened at a Maiden concert.
You will never regret being kind 👍
Some people suck man.
Let the music play. No one cares if you get your stupid likes.
Gen X checking in. Get off my browser.

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An interesting show.

Performances being equal, I find myself liking shows where the recording / sound is great and not liking shows where the sound is subpar, again performances being more or less equal. This is probably normal.. like when a terrific recording suddenly appears and a show we thought was meh becomes a classic.

My dad used to take me to Cole Field House in the mid 70's to see the Terps play. It was loud, the acoustics boomy, full of reverb and echos. I have a soundboard of that 81 show (supposedly) and it sounds like a boomy audience tape. They just can't seem to work out the sound demons.

I can only assume the acoustics played a role in how you all perceived the show and your buddy had nothing to measure it against.

Back to your buddy that raved about the show the whole way home, great story.. but I have to ask, which one of you dosed the poor soul and did you drop him off in his front yard wearing nothing but a wrist watch? Just curious. A tip of the glass to the next pole guy.

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I'd also like to thank Marye and the mysterious Doc for sorting out a problem I had with an order recently. Reassuring for future orders - of which I am sure there will be many.

Wait Jim, were you there? Thought no one knew about that...

The first timer's frame of reference was he had seen the Police a few days earlier. Having never seen the Police myself I don't know how they compared to the Dead and if that influenced his opinion.

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Thanks to those folks in the UK posting about the arrival of DaP 44. In the beforetimes, my Dave's Picks would promptly arrive two weeks after the shipping notice. Now they take an indeterminate 5-7 weeks, and I usually get them a few days after the European crew. So news of their landing overseas eases my mind. If I can only can manage patience for another week or so. (I'll occupy my time by re-listening to days 5 and 7 of 30Days.)

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