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  • Strang3stofplaces
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    I actually never said that you can't post political things, what I originally said was "it'd be great if these forums could try to focus on the music, reddit does exist after all". To back that up, I gave an analogy which, because you missed it, is a comparison of sorts like how you wouldn't talk about Adam and Eve in biology class, not that you couldn't. If you were able to read rationally, you'd see that I, several times, said you can post whatever you'd like, but that's not the literal topic of this forum. Not really room for debate on that, just kind of obvious. Hey, maybe you didn't know there are forums out there on the web where you can discuss whatever the topic may be, it's really cool actually. Again, for a place that's designated as a discussion on Dave's Picks, we're not doing a whole lot of that, but hey is what it is, right? As for me being an election denier, thanks for the assumption, and I'd guess you're old enough to know what they say about assumptions, right? Also, you equating my suggestion to talk about the music more to a politician denying women the right to advocate for women's rights is just as ignorant as the politician. I'd suggest you just read a little slower or maybe throw some fine tunes on, smoke a big fat j and relax before you feel the need to take so hard of a stance.

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    Jack - That halibut meal (sans artichokes) sounds amazing. A bunch of us had halibut on the weekend, but it was “Fries with that?” kind!
    Hey, didn’t I tell you and Oro those Sabres would be a team on the rise? Give them a couple of years.

    Headline in my news feed today: “Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickinson stubs out fans smoking bud at heavy metal concert”. I gather the bass player for IM has an aversion to cannabis. The times they are a changin’

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    I just glanced at a couple articles so don’t really know much, so I’m not sure Jeff? It sounds like it just got invented so I’m guessing the Woodstock thing is something else?
    You can check out stuff on Peter Jackson’s Let It Be which is where and what for the tech was developed. Giles Martin has used it via PJ for Live at Hollywood Bowl and Revolver redos.
    Somewhere the description is used: I was given a cake and when finished I had eggs, flour, sugar, etc…
    Very interesting prospect. I just wonder how that effects the original sonics but I’m guessing GM wouldn’t let it get released on Beatles redos if it wasn’t proper?
    But yes Jim it does propose a Frankenstein esque scenario, and I’m not sure of anything anymore, but I’d bet the farm that some Deadheads would most certainly have some kind of problem with it, especially if it was good lol
    Theoretically this couid be a game changer for all old music…

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    So, I just went to the store and ordered it. Thanks for the heads up, folks!

  • proudfoot
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    Scary-ass film

    Wait, no...Wickerman. the OG.

    my car is on loan this week to a family member, so very limited opportunity to listen to GD.

    11 1 79 is in progress; back to it ASAP.

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    Interesting sidebar. There is a part of me that is really curious about how this would work and sound. There is another part of me that wonders how this would be received if Norman et. al. adopted the technology and set it in motion. I remember the feedback he got when he messed with Phil's bass a dozen or so releases ago.

    My guess is even if the techology were rolled out so others could use it wouldn't necessarily go over well. Separating out the individual components from the two tracks and monkeying with the levels might drive some bonkers. I bet it would be controversial at best. Well.. at least had Bear, Betty & Co. to save us some of the agony.

    Be well folks.. play dead, get the vote out. ..or as DHBrewer says, be kind.. rewind (to 1969).

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    Bobby gets pretty political....

    ....just saying.
    Some more '77? I'm good with that 👍.

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    Hey ORO, Didn't they use the same technology or a similar instrument-separating technology on the 50th anniversary mega box for Woodstock? IE: Got BS&T's individual horns, etc. back in tune, etc. Would be very cool if that became available for future and/or revisited Grateful Dead releases.

    Probably old news to many, but I only recently ran across this. It's sort of a poor-head's way to listen to individual players on the China-Rider; Bertha; Playing in the Band; Sugar Magnolia from Veneta 8/27/72:
    dead dot net/playingintheband

    Sorry, but my optimism for the future is very low these days. I always thought that TRUTH was not a fashion or something to be molded to fit one's personal world-view and needs. We are losing/have lost the ability to listen and learn from others. Daverock's quote bears repeating: "Think it possible that you may be mistaken."

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    I'm having a problem following your posts. First, the Grateful Dead was/is a political band, you said so in your post. Mentioning the rainforest benefit shows in 88 and specifically calling out 5-6-70 right after Kent State, I'm presuming that you must mean Phil's comment after the show? We all said that multiple times back in the day. Then you say there is no room on this forum for politics? Sucks for you and all the people who want to talk about the band and the music? A bit inflexible I would say, but hey, that sucks for me. Your condescending tone about the internet being a big place and there are other places for me or anyone else to post about other topics than the music or the band is just like a politician telling a woman she doesn't have control over her own body. Somehow I get the feeling that I'm speaking to an election denier, and I know that is a waste of time so I will end with this You don't get to tell me where or what I can say, dig it? On this site, only MaryE gets to do that.

  • Strang3stofplaces
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    Damn, that sounds wonderful! I was all "died down", then I see someone calling, I think, me a selfish asshole. At least I didn't see it to be directed elsewhere. So look someone's gonna throw mud around and not even have the decency to direct it at me, I'm not gonna be quiet. But I'm all done arguing over this nonsense. Seriously, talk about whatever you want, I'll just inject my thoughts on whatever the release might be.

    Dave's 2023 announced with 45 looking to represent two spectacular shows from 10/1 and 10/2/77. Hot take but I love the fall tour even more than the spring, though I won't sit here and say the spring is not audio gold. There's a great Miller remaster of the Betty boards on the archive, check those shows out if you're unfamiliar, they are hot hot hot. Scarlet > Fire on the second night is especially so and new minglewood on the first is my personal favorite. Always hoping for 6/10/73 and 6/21/80 (also 71) so we'll see if any of those are one of the later picks.

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....I would pay a pretty penny to see them if they ever reunited. And you can take that to the bank.
Zenatta Mondatta was one of the first records I ever bought with my own money because I liked the cover.
The music is good too.

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Really sad news, for me. He apparently died two days ago. He may not be well known in the States-he was the guitarist for Dr Feelgood when I first saw him - supporting Hawkwind in 1974. No hippy baggage here though-mean and tough r&b that carried on from 1964 as though the intervening years hadn't happened. A clean cut, razor sharp telecaster and the some of the best stage movements by any guitarist I have ever seen. Possibly the best live rock and roll band in England in the mid 70's .

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The last Viola Lee Blues was played on 10/31/70 at Stony Brook N.Y. The first version was played on 2/23/66, it was a song that really improved with age. The Dead played alot of great versions, but 5/2/70 is pretty hard to top. The Dead played it 30 times. I wish they would have brought it back when Brent was in the band.

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68 and still playing, doesn't take Grateful Dead tune requests anymore, he has plenty of his own music, but he may weave a few bars of "Loser" or "Whart Rat" into a nice jam. Always thought he was a great addition to the band. Noticed Vguy mentioned the Police, great band and always put on a great show. Saw them several times, once at Disney World rising up out of the floor of the stage at the Tomorrowland pavilion before Andy Summers joined the band and then the best time I witnessed the greatest light show outside of a dead or pink floyd show, Ghosts in the Machine tour. Stewart Copeland (AKA Clark Kent) is on tour now and if you get the opportunity to catch him live, enjoy, he plays a phenomenal kit. Yes MaryE is the best.

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to musicians who played with the GD they would have "the curse" thereafter...at least one Deadhead at their future shows making a Deadhead of themselves.

Or something like that

I feel like Julie Andrews today because

"Iiii am Coooviiid neeeegatiiiive!"

Hooray for my 59 year old a$$!!!

Happy Birthday Bruce the Bruce!!!

Viola Lee Blues
5 2 70 indeed
11/10/67

Love that

Dr Feelgood was a great group, full of energy. If you don’t remember Wilko Johnson from there perhaps you saw him as the executioner who (Spoiler Alert) removed Ned Stark’s head in ‘Game of Thrones’. RIP.

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Happy Thanksgiving to all you good folks.

The Last Waltz will be playing throughout the day.

Enjoy.

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Thanks BTK, one of my most fave primal tunes... there's some snippets of them rehearsing VLB, then a nearly 16 minute run through available for streaming on the archive: Grateful Dead Live at The Questing Beast on 1966-02-05. Fascinating historical stuff. Instead of Macy's, will be viewing the live footage/film of Jimi at Royal Albert Hall, February 24,1969.

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Happy Thanksgiving to all of the rabble rousers in the comments. I say that with genuine with appreciation and respect. These comments have continued to be a great place to come to almost daily for me. If the fates would ever allow a meet up of sorts, I think it would be a wonderful thing. Regardless, the world continues to be crazy place, so I hope all are well.

A quick comment on Viola Lee Blues: This is one of those tunes that like Mason's Children, Mountains of the Moon, New Potato Caboose, and the Eleven had short stints in the band's rotation, which is a shame. I wish these songs would have been revived before Jerry died. Thankfully, and for what it is worth, since the Other Ones in 1998 these songs have had second life. This is one of the reasons why I appreciate the post Jerry bands because they put these tunes along with St. Stephen and some others back into the rotation.

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Adopted two boy cats yesterday. It may be awhile before I can post an icon like Mr. Ones but that image is pretty close. One is still kind of scared to be in a new place so he's a bit camera shy. They were buds at the shelter in Ridgway so they will give each other comfort and companionship. Phoebe would have liked them I think. She liked all the boys and chased some too. Wishing you all comfort and companionship today too.
30 Days-o-Dead keeping me too busy to do shows this week but all the research in DeadbaseX had me reading some of Dick Latvala's finest recommendations so DaP23 from 1-22-78 and the RT Vol.1 No. 4 From Egypt With Love 10-21,22-78 are on deck.
Cheers

.... at an average of 75 mph, and never left the state of Nevada.
Take that for what you will.
Some may call it boring. I'm just bobbing my head.
Drove to see my girl/wife.

The highlight of the drive was 11/23/73 El Paso. Great show, only my second listen, the last probably ten years ago.

As for Viola Lee Blues, what a swirling, churning whirling whimsical living piece of performance art. Time slows up and speeds down in this song. How do they do it and why did they stop? An unsolvable riddle perhaps. What a great song and one of my primal favorites.

Got all the way to where I was going, my 83-year-old dad came down with covid so our together holiday plans were scrapped, and we had to break down into smaller tribes. Dad's immunocompromised, has a rare slow growth cancer.. so there's more than a touch of concern. Oh well, all we can do is keep on keeping on.

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Anyone have any ideas as to why Dave's Picks aren't being re-issued by Real Gone? I have filled a few gaps in my Road Trips series via Real Gone ... I inquired as to why they don't have Dave's, but do have a slew of Dick's Picks & Road Trips. They said they'd love to reissue, implying that it's not them, it's the GD (corp?) ..... I'd certainly be happy if it came to be! Perhaps Dave could shed some light on this ??

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Dave's Picks are not going to be re-released by real gone because they are a limited-edition series. Road Trips and Dicks Picks were not marketed as such, so they can print more copies if they choose.

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Woke up at 7:45 and realized it was RSD. Record stores are 20 miles from here. Jumped up and dashed there. No traffic all the way there. Store was opened already and no lines!!! Parked right in front and grabbed the two I wanted.
JGB - Hampton, 11/91 and Europe 72 release of 4/7/72. Back in car and home by 915 and a cup of joe.

Still in shock at how smooth it all went!

Hope everyone had a nice bird.

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That's two fall '73 shows! That's not too bad at all.

Jim sorry to hear about your dad I hope he makes a full an speedy recovery. Hang in there brother!

Yesterday, in order played:

Last Waltz
Jimi Hendrix - Electric Church
Long Strange Trip

All on BluRay.
Sat through LST, the other 2 were playing while I was doing stuff on the computer and cooking.

Is there more video for Last Waltz that didn’t make the movie?
Would be nice if all the video that exists were released.
The Last Waltz DVD that came out in the late 90’s/early 00’s (I borrowed someone’s to watch back then) had bonus filler of a jam with all the musicians that was recorded until they ran out of film. That jam is not included on the BluRay that I have.

Well done Dennis, early bird gets the worm.
I haven’t left my house, I’m more of a believer in “second mouse gets the cheese”.
I’ll wait and see what they cost in a few months.

Ice Cream - Rhino released a limited edition (2,500 copies) Last Waltz a few years ago - the 40th Special Edition - which I bought, with the massive Scorsese script included, as well as an extra Blu Ray of interviews, but I cannot remember if it had extra music footage. I know guys like Ron Wood and Stills etc hung around for jams, and I know I have those on one of the audio releases, but I’ll have to pull this edition out to revisit the Blu Rays.

Jim - Best wishes for good health for your Dad.

Dennis - Nice job on getting Garcia Hampton. If memory serves me right, Bruce sat in with the band on that one. Coincidentally, I was paying GarciaLive 19 this morning while doing some paperwork, and the version of Deal on this release is probably the most muscular one I’ve ever heard. On fire. Something I always wished Jerry would do a bit more of - such a talented guitarist, I personally wouldn’t have minded if he turned it up to 11 once in a while. He was a rock and roller, at heart.

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....from Vegas to Elko. I've driven that route so many times I could do it with my eyes closed. Spun GD 11.17.73 Pauley and Phish 11.25.94 Chicago. Had an hour to spare, so I threw in some Oingo Boingo at the end.
#bringbackcdplayersincars.
P.s. it's cold up here.

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Finally arrived. Mystery solved. Thank you Marye for reaching out to me.
I look forward to your next Marye Drew Mystery, “Marye Drew & The Hidden DaP 45 In The Staircase”

....that was a good one lol.
Shes the mother hen to all us bozos.
I bet she sits back and reads some of these conversations and just shakes her head and laughs.
I've never had to call on her, but good to know I have a savior if needed.

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Doesn't seem to matter how, or under what tab like "shows", I input a date I get the same mixed media results. Envelopes, photos, and god knows what-all. Then you may get a date near what you asked for or maybe the same year mostly but completely random for 55 pages. Sometimes in a group of 1970 shows they'll throw in some completely different years decades apart. Is there a way to parse with commas, dashes or something?
And while I'm asking what other sources do you folks use for setlists that don't exist in my trusty old Deadbase?
30 Days is killing me!
Thanks and cheers

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Bam! Took me right there.
And I'm not the only one today it seems.
Mystery solved and no surprise, Deadbase is incomplete.
Thanks again and cheers

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What Deadbase version are you using?

Deadbase 50 is the most up to date version for set lists.

I have IX, XI, and 50 (which includes a copy of XI).
I used IX for tape trading, and it helped immensely back then, but it’s missing or has inaccurate set lists for some of the early years.

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I have X and 50. I use ten to write in and document stuff, 50 only gets taken off the shelf to check on things that are wrong in ten, or for things that aren’t in ten I.e., solo bands and post Jerry stuff.
When searching I don’t go to archive, I just type in a date and usually an archive thing that rhymes with stink is one of the responses?

So this time of year has often been a mixed blessing, and this year the worlds been conspiring to make it extra interesting, which has put me in a bit of a funk lately. But fortunately, sometimes we get shown the light…
Long short, I don’t care what anyone says Jeff Smith is awright! A kind and righteous dude to be sure!
Out of nowhere left field, he basically miracled me with the equivalent of a shaft of glorious light, that may not have completely shook me blues, but has helped me up out of the mire, to keep on keeping on, like a bird that flew…
I only wish the gd postal service was as good as him, so the circle will be unbroken.
Thanks cannot describe…

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I'm discovering its limitations the more I do 30 Days.
Joey's tip will help a lot I think.
Still no clue how to effectively use The Archive for research.
But it is easy enough to listen on.
I have not ever downloaded off it yet. Don't have the system to utilize them.
Thanks to all and keep those cards and letters coming.
Do T-Day leftovers have an expiration date?
Cheers

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50 is available as a free download PDF, just gotta poke around.

To navigate directly to The Dead's music in archive, this works for me:
GDYEAR-MN-DT

So letters GD, no space, the four digit year, dash, two digits for month, dash, two digits for date. This works from search engines in browsers for me, no need to go to archive first, just that much will bring the archive listing up to one click.

There's a local story here, author John Scott first saw the Dead as a student when they played at Dartmouth in 1978, soon after he began developing early Deadbase while still an undergraduate. He moved down the road to Cornish, NH after graduation, home of another famous author, J.D. Salinger. Also home to artists Maxfield Parrish and Augustus Saint-Gaudens. The longest covered bridge in the world (now second) ran between Cornish NH and Windsor, VT across the Connecticut River. And of course, our very own Doc11 was at Dartmouth too. Mr. PC must be off somewhere with Don Juan's Reckless Daughter.

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Today were cooking salmon and rib eye steaks. Were drinking Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. First music up, T Bone Walker The Complete Recordings 1940 - 1954 Mosaic Records. T Bone Walker influenced everybody who's anybody, check him.out. Beautiful day here in the Bay Area, rain is comming, we need it.

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Setlists.net makes for easy searching during 30 days of dead too. Type each song you are looking for in the songs lookup box and it gives you the shows they both appeared in.

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Mornin', rockers!!

The debate of 11/16/70 vs 11/23/70 has been around as long as those tapes have circulated. Which means, since the dawn of time. Just one man's opinion, but the best evidence indicates that the true date is November 16, at the Fillmore East. For me, the best indicator may be Bill Grahm's intro before Casey Jones. Pretty unlikely he would do intros at a competitor's venue. In addition, Traffic tour information indicates they were scheduled to be in Buffalo on the evening of November 23, but they were in New York City for scheduled shows at the Fillmore on the 18th and 19th, with the 16th being an "open date".

It does include one of the absolutely greatest versions of Hard To Handle ever, with some otherwordly playing by Bob Weir.

Every journey into the past is complicated by delusions, false memories, false namings of real events.....

Up too early, not enough coffee, time to walk dogs........

Rock on,

Doc
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Sometimes i just poke around herbibot for the hell of it, its amazing to think a deadhead made that!

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Got a little package in the mail yesterday,,, it was soft and from "bob dylan. com". I was "huh",, opened it up and it was a red rain poncho with bob dylan printed on the back.?

Anyone else get one? I assume it came because of the latest bootleg.

It was one of those garbarge bag style you'd buy at a venue if it started raining.

No idea why I got one.

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For the Hard Rain reissue?
Too early for that. Wasn't that a '75 tour?
Just a wild guess.
Cheers

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Jimi's music always seems fresh to me, in that it doesn't seem to age. In the sense that no one has ever come close and it remains cutting edge. Sure, the early hits can seem like a throwback (Purple, Foxey, Fire), but 80% of his recorded legacy -- an astounding legacy for 4-5 years of tapes running -- is still better than most music of the past 50 years. I got into it in summer '69 and, 53 years later, I'm blasting LA Forum April '69.

I feel the same way about the Beatles' songs and those by The Band, and the best of the songs and jamming by the GD and ABB.

Sure, I still go to shows, particularly local bars, sometimes theaters and, of course, Red Rocks (though I'm down to interest in like one band per summer, musically and financially). Huge dichotomy between listening to recorded music in the comfort of home and raging at The Rocks, as we all know. But with several hundred CDs of Jimi I think I'll make it to spring.

So, hats off to Jimi's birth. I wish that everyone would celebrate the dearly departed by birthday and not by death day, though the latter are difficult to forget.

On a wholly different note, wishing JimMD's dad a full recovery.

Paxlovid is wonderful stuff. As far as we can tell, dad is on the rebound and almost back to his crotchety old self, back to yelling at hippies to get off his grass and prancing around like a cracker version of Fred Sanford. My biggest complaint now is that I did not get my expected amount of Thanksgiving leftovers. First world problems I guess....

Thanks for the concern folks..

I could be wrong.. but if my sleuthing skills are intact, those folks at 30 days of the dead are messing with us. Putting out crisp and clean soundboard nugget of a tape that seems to currently only circulate as an audience.

It must mean there are new reels floating around Burbank that have yet to be released and are not circulating. There is only one solution to this quandry.. we must storm the vault and free the reels. Who's with me?

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JM, glad your pops is on the rebound!
Quote of the week “prancing around like a cracker version of Fred Sanford”
Proper!

Long live Jimi!

This Oscar Peterson Xmass CD we recently acquired is Dope!

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especially if we get to use your time machine to find out where the keys are stashed. Do believe there's stuff in the vault that's never been out. Happy Birthday Jimi. Not that I watch much football, but at the end of the first quarter of the Bucs & Browns game today, the fade music was Jimi's version of All Along The Watchtower. Coincidence? Synchronicity?? Are You Experienced was a mind blowing thing for fifteen year old me summer 1967 heard on a massive pair of Altec Lansing speakers.

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And all those who share today as their birthday. Like me, for instance.

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