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  • Vguy72
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    Doh!....

    ....so I bought Widespread Panic tix for March 4th. Flaming Lips just announced their tour. Guess what night they are playing here? March 4th. Love both bands and now I'm torn. Widespread is playing three night though. What to do? What to do.
    And no. I did not insure my WP ticket.

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    Thanks HF

    Hope your feeling better?

    Jimi LA and Woodstock Bluray are on Santa’s list!

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    OMG, Daverock...

    Dooood, I've been to England, long enough ago to maintain the fiction that Brits are well-behaved (I have the same fantasy about Canadians), while the soccer rioter and pre-drinking news etc. slowly seeps in. But the sort of behavior you describe would nix my attendance. I just wouldn't be able to stand it. To be fair, here in Colorado, it is not rare for people to talk constantly through a set, hold their effin' phones aloft (because if you don't have lots of worthless 90-second videos, the show never happened) and the usual rude pushing to the front after the early, easy-going arrivals are all in place.

    My personal etiquette is: never talk during songs or if one must, keep it low and discreet, as in "See ya in a moment, gotta hit the loo. Can I bring you a beer?" Also, I cannot hear conversation with loud music. Just chat between numbers. If someone taps me on the shoulder and asks nicely for me to sit down, apologize, smile and sit down. It's okay to let out an occasional yelp in appreciation of the music peaking, but don't be a tape-ruiner. And if you needed your phone to hook up with friends at the show, hook up and put the friggin' electronics away.

    Speaking of which, as much as I respect tapers, they can be the worst. Went to a Phil show in Denver years ago and got a nice spot with my peeps. Just before showtime, three pricks show up, push in front of us, set up 7-ft high mic stands, asked for more room and shushed us as the show began. We just shook our heads, but the 75-year-old ex-Marine with me wanted to crack some skulls. So, do we deliver justice and get thrown out or acquiesce and ensure it never happens again? We took option B. But those chumps thought they were divinity, as they were getting front-of-soundboard recordings, while the soundboard had its designated taper section all set up behind us.

    Rant over! (But still mumbling to myself...)

    Hey Oro! Que pasa? Hope you got the new Jimi live in LA April '69 show. If not, let me know...............

  • Oroborous
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    Inverse of that

    Saw my first JGB show on 11/1/81 in a very small gymnasium.
    the stage was only a foot or 2 high.
    For the first set we sat on the floor at Jerry’s feet so close I could have shook his mic stand.
    But folks behind us, basically the rest of the crowd, for some reason didn’t like that we were sitting?
    So after a set of BS from these folks, we stood up for the second set.
    So now the folks behind us that could previously see over us, now had to stare at the back of several six foot plus dudes heads.

    What Daverock just said= I’d often rather stay home and stream!

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    Correct etiquette at gigs

    Not standing on my hair when I'm lying down for one. Not that I do that now, of course, or have that amount of hair that could be stood on if I did.
    HF - I imagine you enhancing a gig rather than being a nuisance. What I don't like is very different to what you're talking about. At medium size gigs in England, you often get groups of lads spending hours in the bar drinking, before pushing their way to the front of the stage minutes before the main band comes on. Pint of beer in one hand, mobile phone in the other. Having secured a place at the front they then seem to go into an epileptic fit during the fast numbers and talk loudly over the quiet ones. I'm much happier buying a ticket for a seat in a theater or a club to see bands now. I haven't been to a festival-open air, since about the year 2000.

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    Yes, lying down = G

    "People whose priority is to enjoy themselves without caring about upsetting others in the process are a nuisance wherever they go."

    I take pride in being one person standing among 10,000 sitting and being nowwhere in 'that woman's' sight line. It was having fun that was wrong. Nothing wrong with sitting for a show if that's what you like, it's just that in a rockin' joint without seats, some will stand. Would I do that in a theater? No. Y'all got it right, which is, how does the environment work into the equation? Even at the Rocks I talk to the people behind me and accommodate as needed, because I'm tall. Also, read the crowd -- is it 'up' or 'down.' So, no 'correct' answer there, but 'yes' to consideration of the neighbors.

    Hats off to Daverock for "short-haired herberts" knocking about in neo-punk days. I had a whirling dervish behind me at a Dr. John show (guest: Henry Butler, post-Katrina) and this kid kept slamming into me. I had to give him a brief talking to. He seemed mystified -- wasn't I having a good time? (Not with him bashing into me, I explained carefully, using 'the look.')

    So, in honor of incoming 2023, when we got to the front of the stage Friday afternoon at Watkins Glen, we stretched out our sleeping bags, rested our heads on one-gallon jugs of cool water, and caught the The ABB, The Band, then a two-hour GD show, mostly lying down, looking up at the boys like we were on a couch in the living room. Absolutely by far the most 'laid' back GD experience ever. For me. Only time I caught a real show lying down. (By that time there were 100,000+ in the crowd and -- crickey! -- some were standing up. Ef 'em...

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    All i know is Deadbase. Wish I knew more.

    Entitlenent: if you watched Portlandia back in the day, there was a sketch about people at an outdoor movie screening. Great stuff that ties in with the theme if entitlement.

    Billy the Kidd is on the money yet again

    I say Hobbs and Big Boy Pete. Or just Biggie.

    Is Calvin too obvious?

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    Rosemary 12/7/68

    54 years ago today the Dead played Rosemary live for the first and only time. What a cool tune, one that I wish they would have brought back for the 1980 Warfield shows. 12/7/68, what a cool show, time to release it.

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    People whose priority is to enjoy themselves without caring about upsetting others in the process are a nuisance wherever they go.

  • Pancho Pantera
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    Greetings All.

    I wonder if anyone here might be able to direct me to where my question might be best posted, or perhaps, to an answer. I would like to know if anyone has knowledge of where I might find an entire list of all the Grateful Dead show played that is available in an excel spreadsheet, or something like that.

    I am familiar with entire listings of shows and websites that contain all of the information I am looking for. What I am looking for is something that is already available in a table format or a spreadsheet. If not, then I guess I can work on one and then share it.

    Thank you for any help or suggestions.

    Thank you for all of your music commentary and general positivity.

    Have a beautiful day.

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....the best thing about driving solo, is that a can listen to whatever the hell I want to without anyone bitching.
Started with some more Oingo Boingo. Good sing along songs imo, then the Dolphins/Texans game. Go 🐬's. Then Dave's 44. Then. Then the second set of Phish @ Amsterdam 7.2.97. Whoo boy. Lucky I didn't get pulled over listening to that. Badass set. Four songs. Thirty minute classic Stash followed by Llama then the Wormtown Jam, which is a one off mashed up Steve Miller's Swingtown with Anastasio's acid trip the night before where he rode on the backs of worms 🪱 in the canals of Amsterdam after going into a portalet, then Wading In The Velvet Sea.
I think I blew out my driver's door speaker.
Apologies if that's not your jam, but like I said, it's nice to drive solo.
Edit. Seems the dogs need food. Perfect excuse for the Free, David Bowie encore y'all!
Happy belated birthday Jimi and Simonrob. Rock on my brothers.

10 30 early show oh well late start apparently
10 30 late show worth a listen
10 31 early great setlist and energetic enough
10 31 late will need to listen at another time

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VGUY, I can so relate to driving alone while listening to anything I damn well please. I could make my 8 1/2 hour drive to New Hampshire a breeze. Going all the way back to the cassette era, 4 concerts would usually get me there, but occasionally I would just play 8-12 regular albums, be it on cassette or CD.
I still mostly listen to albums start to finish. On occasion I will break that custom, but it’s unusual for me. I think that’s yet more proof of my dinosaur status. Still, I don’t care about that. Great music can make a long drive feel like a very short drive. The right 3 Phish (or Dead) shows can get you 9 hours!!
Just before crashing, I decided I needed a nightcap. The problem was, will it be the Fillmore Bonus Disc, or the Beyond Description Bonus Disc?? Can’t really lose either way.
I went with the Fillmore disc, and boy howdy, I hadn’t listened to that 30 minute Caution in years. Just exploratory in all the best ways.
For sure I will play the Beyond Description disc tomorrow. Can’t wait to crank up the 32 minute Blues Fir Allah suite. Not to mention a WRS, Estimated, and a Shakedown. Man, I feel totally blessed right now, even though my 4-day weekend is officially over.
Best wishes to all whether you’re going through ups, downs or in betweens.
As I type, the ginger cat in my Icon is furiously head butting my chin to get some attention.
He (Petey) will also enjoy this big slab of Pig.

Sorry for rambling folks, but you know……
Music is the Best!!

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They showed this documentary on T.V. at the weekend - the film that was included in the Jimi box set a few years ago-which I still haven't got round to getting. Curious film - incredible picture and sound, though very frustrating in that it was more talking than music. I guess I should buy the box for the good stuff.

I thought those hippies were a right shower, though. I can vaguely remember people like Chuck Wein in the early - mid 70's. Slightly older people who had dropped out, and who sought to enlighten those around them with gems of spiritual insight. There was a guy in Oldham like that -had the most beautiful girlfriend who very rarely spoke. I can remember telling her once that I had been to see Genesis, and that they had put on good show. She stared at me for what seemed like ages, and then whispered "We are tired of shows." I felt like a right schmuck. It was as though she had stared into the heart and soul of the universe, and could no longer tolerate artifice of any kind.

Yes - Happy Birthday Simon. Don't set your guitar on fire!

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....their new single. Six years? For that? I went in open minded and listened to it three times. I am very disappointed. Dave Mustaine was right.
Guess they will stay in fifth place.

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....don't throw away the peels. Chop them up and let them soak in cold water for a couple of hours or so. There are vitamins in the peels. Pour the water onto your plants. It will help Let Them Grow. Greatly yield.
I learned that on the internet.

The first time I heard the transtion from acoustic to full-bore electric...a special moment. Walking on as path on a sunny day with headphones...a very special moment.

Seattle Times reports Metallica will play two Seattle shows in August/September 2024.

2024.

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Checking the experience vinyl site to see what they now say about "from the vault" series. 1 has been pushed back to spring 2023,,,, the other 2 "fall" this year. Right.

I see them hawking so glad you made it, why would anyone pre order it? They're over a year on "from the vault" initial release date!

Further i saw them hawking a pre order of Dicks 33 (275 bucks!!!), 8 LP's. I checked my shelf and sure enough there's 33 already?!?! Don't remember paying 275? But it's number.

Anyone seen anything of 3/2/69 fillmore to finish that set of vinyl?

Had the 50th anniversary of Thick as a Brick show up minutes ago. Remastered release comes with the original newspaper in it's entirety. My original copy from back in the day does not! I look forward to reading it :-)

Enjoy

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The doc recently exhibited some fine sleuthing regarding identifying a date of a 1970 show. I'm surprised there has not been any discussion of the call by the Owsley Stanley Foundation to help identify a date of a June 1968 show discussed in the current almanac under the heading "Friends & Relations". Here's an excerpt:

"The Owsley Stanley Foundation found some never circulated ’68 dead featuring the earliest versions of “St. Stephen” and the first versions of “Dark Star” to crack the 10-minute mark. They’re not in the world just yet, but keep watching the skies!"

In the full story there's a l i n k. Once there, there's a call to help figure out the date of the show. Curious to hears Doc's & others thoughts on this.

Apologies if this was discussed here or elsewhere & I missed the discussion.

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Hey rockers!!

In reference to the restored Carousel 1968 recording, in this case---as in all others---I don't have an special insights or inside information. The write-up at the OSF Facebook page really says it all, in great depth. It seems like it's early June. In any case, it looks awesome!! And hopefully will be officially released some time soon!

I thought for a moment that the recently (November 1, 2022) circulated remaster of the June 8/9 show(s) might be the show mentioned by OSF, but the setlists are vastly different. What currently circulates for June 8/9 is: Excerpt #1: //St. Stephen [tape speed variable at the start] > That's It For The Other One > Turn On Your Lovelight//; Excerpt #2: //Morning Dew//-//Hurts Me Too//-Dark Star-St. Stephen >Turn On Your Lovelight//. This June 8/9 remaster is really excellent sound quality. Thanks very much to the folks that made that possible. Anybody who needs/wants, you know where to find me.

Based on what OSF has released so far---all of which are excellent---it appears they have an emphasis on non-Dead releases. Which means maybe they will leave the Dead stuff to the Dead organization itself. My guess is, that being the case, don't expect a flood of releases, probably more like a trickle........

Time moves in one direction, memory in another...........

Rock on,

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Time and memory are true artists; they remould reality nearer to the heart's desire.....

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I have been away awhile. Seems like the usual suspects here. I haven't just been away from the site but away from the Dead. I finally listened to Dave's 41, 42, and 43, on a long drive which is what inspired me to mention it here. As someone who only in the last few years began to understand the Dead, I have to say, going from May 1977 to Feb 1974 to Nov/Dec 1969, it is like literally listening to three different bands, four if you include the acoustic music. All great performances. I sometimes hear people comment that they don't need any more 1977. I only have a couple of 77 shows so this one sounds great to me. The 1969 material is my pick of the bunch. I would give just about anything to go back in time and see Pigpen in his prime. And on first listen I thought the Feb 22, 1974 show was not nearly as good as what I will call its "counterpart" Feb 24, 1974, Dave's 13.

Now I just need to get caught up on a few months of posts. Everyone take it easy.

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Dennis, if you're not familiar with small local British newspapers from that time I'm not sure you'll get the joke..

....is an incredible movie. I feel honored Butch. What can I say? I love the cinema.
Just finished watching Avatar. Prepping for part two, thirteen years later.
Yall know, The Tull put out a record last year I hope.

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Hey now! It's likely been mentioned in these comments, but please consider donating to Archive.org and the Rex Foundation on this Giving Tuesday.

Be kind, rewind . . .

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Butch-going beyond May, 11/6/77 - Daves 25, is worth squeezing in. Great versions of Dire Wolf and Music Never Stopped. Having said that - I'm listening to it now, and they seem to be having a bit of a nap after singing the verses of Scarlet Begonias.
Not sure about those two skeletons leaning against a tree to advertise 30 Days of the Dead. I suppose that's the brand - and it's better than teddy bears - but..... why have a brand at all ? Surely The Dead were originally opposed to all that kind of thing.

I never got the joke when I first saw it, I must admit. I never owned up to this when it was first pointed out to me of course. "Aqualung" was the one I liked most by Jethro Tull - spitting out pieces of his broken luck. Some of it's barely quotable in todays world. It was along way from Buddy Holly, that's for sure.

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I leave in a bit to do a quick turnaround run to Zion National Park in an hour or so...I was asked by some folks yesterday if I could drop them off and I said $ure...so on the way back home (5 hours) I can test my new car audio system!!!! I love that my new deck plays Hi Res files on a flash drive...I have numerous drives filled so away we go!!! Friday I head to Vegas for the Pac 12 Championship, USC (Fight On) vs Utah at Allegiant Stadium...game's at 5:00 PM so I'll drive home afterwards (4 hours) ...thought about staying overnite but room co$t$ were ridiculous...$400 for Motel 6? I think not!!!

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Motel 6, not so much.

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At the Fillmore 1997 looks good.
4 CD deluxe set seems very affordable.
Anyone got this yet?
Cheers

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where else can you pay 50 cents for a key to turn the tv on!

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I think it was Nitecat that asked for any info about 31 Days of Dead 2022. In any case, I just got an email from Ed Martin, and looks like he's gonna do it again this year:

Hello my friends!!! It's that time of the year again. I’m very excited to bring you another installment of the 31 Days of Dead. Most of you know the drill, but for those who don't here is some background...

Similar to what dead.net does in November, I pick a live track (or tracks) for download each day in December and do a quick write-up. Unlike the “Official 30 Days of Dead,” there is no contest here. Instead, the prize is the music and the winner is the listener.

I started these annual projects in 2010. I had no idea where this would go, nor did I care. I did it for no reason other than my own personal enjoyment - I still do. To my surprise, what started as daily email blasts to a small group of friends has grown to an Instagram account that has over 35k followers. I am grateful to every single one of you for the love you have shown. Follow me on Instagram at @31daysofdead

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These 2 shows from 1977 for the next Daves Pick from Portland Oregon look fantastic!

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Just so happens that's the title of my first ever horror novel, "Jim & Motel 666." I just sent it off to the publisher last night.

This place is amazing, everybody is so incredibly plugged in to everything important going on in the universe. This shit seems to happen on a daily basis.

Thanks folks!

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I heard his Live Anthology set from 10 years ago, and the band is outstanding live. This Fillmore set looks like a bunch of covers. I think some of them may be the same renditions as Live Anthology. Personally I think this band is so good live they could sing the ABCs and it would sound good. Go to YouTube and check out Gloria. That makes me want to go by this set. There's a rap in there I would swear is a tribute to Pigpen.

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My posts seem to be turning into obituary notices but I have to say
RIP Christine McVie

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Wow. I was never a big Fleetwood Mac fan, but I always liked her and felt she was very underrated. Think of me what you will, but I love Songbird.

Yes. Please donate to the archive. Before year end if possible as all donations are being matched.

You also have an option to pay in cryptocurrency for those of you who still may own that stuff. I decided to pay with actual money.

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Not Christine Perfect. Dang.
My favorite in FMac.
Not just Songbird, Morning Rain, Show Me a Smile, Homeward Bound, Spare Me a Little of Your Love, The Way I Feel, Why, Don't Stop (thinking about tomorrow), You Make Loving Fun, Oh Daddy, and backing vocals on Kiln House. Oh, and anything she wrote after Rumours, which is the last one I own. A great talent. She lived a simple life after her touring years. Raise a toast to Christine.
Cheers

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Christine passes and Petty's estate puts out a must-have box. (Four-CD box pre-ordered without hesitation.)

And all I was gonna post is that -- having mentioned my trajectory -- HF lives another day. Home from the hospital after cardiac ablation. Knocked me on the arse, it did. Had to stay overnight and was glad I wasn't home alone last night. Next 90 days will tell if it worked. Like all such surgeries, if I knew how rough it would be, I mighta thought twice. It's all right -- back home and picking on the Martin D-35 to distract from the aching in my chest, said to be expected.

Both Christine and Petty went too soon, especially the latter, at 66, from fatal toying with fentanyl. I got a story about my own flirting with that stuff, but perhaps too gory for the forum.

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To HF!
Keep on truckin'.
Cheers

Jeezum crow. Firstly, my best wishes that this episode gets in the rear view fast. As someone post 70 with a host of situations, have some sense of unexpected and unwanted hospital visits... basically they suck. I kid myself with what Daltrey sang 57 some years ago, "... before I get old". And then shite happens as it does and will for all of us and it turns into, gee, if I knew I was going to live this long, I would have... We make it this far, we have all lost dear friends and family. So, dug out the old photos, concerts apprehended in the early 70s, my first Dead, BB King, Tom Waits, Dylan with The Band, John McLaughlin, Roy Buchanan, ELP, even a fourteen year old Tanya Tucker (for your ticker) right after she hit with Delta Dawn. Perhaps best of all, photos from Watkins Glen, there's this guy near the stage just left of center, who looks like you, only a little younger. Jeezum crow.

....I wanna say around 1991.
It was a really good show. Mick had a drum jacket on.
Godspeed Christie. I always thought you had a better voice than Stevie.
Pray for John. I know he's devastated.
I went through most of their catalog in 2020.
I'm listening to Mirage. Turns out they have songs called Eyes Of The World and Wish You Were Here on the deluxe version. How about that!
Google Jerry Garcia Christine McVie.
Or check out my avatar.
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HF - good luck. Hopefully you will be up and rocking again in the New Year.

I never really heard Fleetwood Mac, apart from their singles. In fact I don't think I have ever heard one of their albums. But best wishes to all connected, however distantly, and I hope Christine McVie rests in peace.

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Check her out pre-Fleetwood Mac, she was with Chicken Shack, an excellent R&B band.

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I had a look at the Tom Petty box set. So far, I’ve resisted temptation but probably not for long. Unfortunately, while looking at it I noticed an 8 CD box set ‘Bert Jansch at the BBC’ and a 6 CD box by Plainsong and a book ‘In Search of Plainsong’ and I couldn’t resist them even though I have several versions of the Plainsong albums I just need the extras.

Joining a few strands together Andy Roberts, the guitarist in Plainsong, was earlier in The Liverpool Scene and they had a track called ‘ I’ve got the Fleetwood Mac, Chicken Shack, John Mayall can’t fail blues’. I loved Chicken Shack and The Liverpool Scene.

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I haven't heard much by them either, but from what I have heard, I think they would be more my cup of tea than the Fleetwood Mac of the 70s. Stan Webb on guitar has a great reputation.

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in Denver. Follow up:
Rky. Mtn. Public Radio has hired a new GM that goes way back in the scene and started KHIH jazz radio BITD. So hopefully with some of the staff kept on in key positions we can get back to reality and not Kenny G (no offence Kenny, I love hearing you in elevators). The GM is also the first black woman to GM a radio station in Colorado. At least we are going in the right direction.
Cheers

I had to read up on what you had done. Not fun, not one bit of fun.

Heal up man.. hopefully it's one of those things that needed to get done so you can resume your 'normal' life of fear and loathing in CO.

On the bright side, your radio options just improved.

May the four winds cover your deductible.

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And I use that term loosely (where's Oro when I need him to take a swipe at me??). Feeling WAY better today, so I thank all you kind hearted souls for support. I'm tempted to think it was the anaesthesia that threw me, I was "on the slab" for 2 1/2 freakin' hours -- thankfully not the good ForensicDoc slab...

So, the sun's out, I'm in a chair with guitar and I got nothin' to bitch about. And to all facing challenges -- the known knowns and the unknown knowns -- my complete empathy.

DMCVT: at Watkins Glen I was wearing a bright red shirt with tiny white polka dots. Shoulder-length blond hair, but cannot remember if I had it in a 'tail' or not. I still have two pics of the boys from the Saturday show as they played PitB (used to have four shots) that showed them moving together into a tight circle as they jammed it out. That summer '73 material would be really fun to hear after all these years. I've had some sub-par copies that I can't get into. I think pristine sound quality would be wonderful.

Okay, I'm silently 'yelling' MORE '68!! The doc told me to stay quiet for a few.... good luck with that!

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Get well soon, HendrixFreak!

R.I.P., Christine. You were a class act and a great musician and songwriter.

Anyone watching the World Cup? I'm addicted to it . . .

Be kind, rewind . . .

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Get well soon HF - sending you healing vibes

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Call me color blind. Alas, HF, my Watkins Glen photos were taken with b&w film. Faster, better for low light. Will review with rose colored glasses. Love the sound of those old Martins. Will go see neighbor and 84 year old veteran musicologist Jim Rooney play his in a couple weeks, if it don't snow too hard.

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Vibes much appreciated, trust me.

Hey, I ordered the new Petty 4-CD box Monday, it just landed. It is a model of minimal packaging while still being a fun package. I know that Dave & Co. love to work up each year's box and I have no complaints, I have argued that the effort on the packaging lends dignity to the music release. But environmentally I wonder whether a new more minimalist approach would be welcomed on GD boxes.

Just a thought... Hitting the couch now. Many thanks for the support.

DMCVT: look for a gray-ish shirt with tiny white dots! Gawd, that was an experience, especially at my age back then.

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