Grateful Dead

Belgium out, Germany out, England score 6 and then 500 on the first day. What's going on?

Songbird is indeed a phenomenal song.

It can be interpreted from multiple perspectives.

Nevertheless, I am sure I speak for football fans the world over when I say I hope... Japan win.

I think the England team are benefitting from the fact that no alcohol is allowed in the stadiums. They play much better sober.

HF I agree. All that packaging crap is one of the reasons that I rarely buy the boxes these days. The Winterland boxes are classy, really nice, easy to store and use, let's go back to that format. And why are they so expensive? Dylan's Rolling Thunder Revue box was 14 discs for £50.

😊

Here's another vote for simple packages, i.e. like Winterland box sets. Three-four show runs with 10-12 discs priced under $100 postpaid. Simple. Bet they would sell well, easier to produce. Shelf space is an issue here, as much as might like the fancy boxes with extras, they just sit on a shelf, its all about the music. On CD. Speaking of which and in HF reference to 1968, how about that Betty Nelson's Organic Raspberry Farm 9-2-68, Sky River Rock Festival show.

Just an exercise to see if my logic is still working... (Admittedly, there's a short distance between "logic" and "rationalization.")

Releasable shows from '66 to '68 must be considerably rarer than the rest of the '69 to '95 period. Strategically, for the long haul, Dave wants to preserve a few "surprises" from '66 to '68 -- whether that really serves the "legacy" or just the business of the legacy. Yet when an unusual tape is uncovered (think 18 April '70) Dave has shown interest in kicking up dust with a release outside of the annual box and DaP series.

I see three basic avenues for '68 release(s) or other oddball tapes (think MG's now-near-forgotten stash return): the annual box, DaP, and one-off RSD or just a special one-for-the-fans. (Although I was underwhelmed when they coupled a '68 release with that cartoon history book. C'mon! Why dangle a '68 to sell effin' cartoons??)

If it's a box, do we think that Rhino is going to green light a more focused version of the porch crusher and go with a 10-CD collection of '66-'70? (That's what I wanted and they threw in '71-'95.) You know they're not going to release a 20-CD box from that span.

A 3-disc DaP would seem friendly to, say, two or three '68 shows and I'd soil my diapers for that route.

Or they do a one-off with the newly discovered June '68 tape from Owsley's banana boxes; even a short, limited edition release would cover its costs and reinvigorate the die-hards (that's us) belief in the almighty Vault's potential. OR (coffee!!) TPTB let the OSF release '68 GD.

The recent MSG box demonstrates that there's plenty of great rock 'n roll in the Vault, but what percentage is really of keen historical interest, by which I mean transitional shows early in the band's development? I think it's telling that Dave commented, I think, on the PNW box (might be another box) that he proposed a 10-12 CD set and Rhino said make it a 20-CD set -- so the latter must be a sweet spot for production margins, meaning profit. (Ah, the word "profit"! I have no hang-up with that: no profit, no Vault releases.)

So I see a potential '68 release(s) as a one-off in the DaP series or a special release. And I think it's key to create some Vault-related "excitement" because here's my personal calculus: I'm 65. Been a devoted customer of the recordings since 1971, live shows from '72 to '92 (so, 50+ years). Quit the scene in '87 after the band (Jer) ran out of steam and at age 30 I was actually evolving -- not mutating, just evolving... Over time, as with Jimi, the ABB and other favorites, the recordings replaced the defunct band as my foci. But as you may surmise from my recent news, I am switching gears and considering new ways of approaching life. In other words, if Dave is planning another, say, 15+ years of releases, shouldn't they front-load it with those great, transitional early shows? 1966 is fun, but '67 and '68 are typically ferocious. Will I still care about '68 tapes in five years? In 2027, the band will have been defunct for 32 years. I know the "kids" (20s and 30s today) love this stuff but I don't think they "get" '68. Just a guess.

So many roads, so many words, when I could have just said: More '68, NOW!

Hey Dave, got email from Experience vinyl's christmas sale. I saw they had a Hawkwind LP for preorder (we are looking in on you too). Thought it might interest you.

Further note, I laughed when they show 3 from the vault being released in two day!!!! (right)

1 and 2 pushed back till next year (again)!!!

And the hits keep coming!

It's comming, some of the tapes are in the vault, the rest are in Owsleys boxes. It's gonna be a knockout!

MR PC, glad you didn’t go quitting on us, we need the entertainment (and twisted wisdom ; )
Glad to see your mind is still moving fast even if your heart needed to slow down lol. JK of course…rest up and be well soon amigo!
Yassss, puzzling the apparent resistance to 68?
I agree that an all 68 might not sell so well overall, but I think a primal box of 67-70 would!
There’d be enough variety in there to attract fence sitters, and it would be a great historical showcase of the rapid transition that took place over those years.

SMALL BOXES: their ok, I’m just worried if Dave is on the 20 year plan he alludes too, that we need more shows while we can get em, not less! So if small boxes, then perhaps do 2 a year, or 1 big, 1 small…just my two centavos…

Four Winds blow CM…
Saw the Mac in 78 when they still sorta ruled the world. Bob Welch, Pablo Cruise, Foreigner and F.M. as the headliner.
Only went just to go, wasn’t really a fan, but the Mac ended up really surprising my 15 year old melon!
Will always have a sharp memory of SN and LB playing You Can Go Your Own Way like they ment it more than anything in the world, very intense! Just glaring at each other the whole song! LB, with no pick, was playing his White Les Paul so hard he broke multiple strings!
By then you could just tell something was up between them even back then as a clueless kid with no internet.
One of my top R&R moments from my personal history. Think I liked Christine better than Stevie though?

FUTBALL: I tightened up the homeboys on the job site with a tv the other day so they could watch Mexico during their lunch break. Now I don’t speak espanol, but man those boys were getting into it like any NFL fans I’ve ever seen. Good game from the bit I watched. Don’t get how they won the game but still were out though?

DAVEROCK: that was too funny about the English team lol.
I’m surprised you never got into early Mac with Peter Green et el as they were English, late sixties/early seventies and more blues oriented, or right up your alley?

KUVO, good news there 1st show, only wish they still broadcast up here on FM…used to be my default in the car.

Howdy DMCVT, yeah dug that Raspberry farm show at POTD via Docs recommendation! Good sheet Mon, more, more, more por favor!
Happy Friday ladies and germs, hope the white ribbon of death doesn’t shut down before I get home tonight.
Now that there’s so many people here and many not experienced in mountain winter driving, it seems like the highway shuts down every time it snows, ugghhhh.
ONWARD!

If Dave ever retires...BTK needs to be his successor.

I get the feeling not all the shows that circulate are in the vault. Just a feeling.. but I think we would have seen at least another release or two from this year. The last 68 release was 2015, and before that 2009, before that 2001.

That's Bananas.

Dennis - thanks for the heads up about that Hawkwind album. A recent live recording featuring a selection of new tracks peppered with tracks from the 70's. Looks good. Not sure about the idea of covering Tom Jones "It's Not Unusual", but I guess if you have been touring for over 50 years and are over 80, you can sing what you damn well like.

Oro - I seemed to miss out on Peter Green era Fleetwood Mac, too. I did get an album by John Mayall, called "Hard Road" that featured him, which was pretty good. I saw him live once, too, about 23 years ago at a blues festival. It felt a bit sad, though.

I'm a bit surprised people here think 1968 would be hard sell. Maybe it's just a case of - because I like it every once else should too. But of all the various eras and styles of playing - the shows from this year really blow out the fuses like never again. You don't need to know a thing about them to recognise the power. Maybe shows from this year would appeal more to non Deadheads than Deadheads. I think yer average Hawkwind fan, should there be such a beast, would prefer "Anthem" to anything else in the Dead's back catalogue.
1966 to the first half of 1967 - now that I can imagine being less popular. Interesting, for sure, and historically important..but still formative to my ears.

Good band, but not my topic.
These last few days of posts are my favorite type. Friendly, encouraging, supportive and like……family!!
I had a cd of the Betty Nelson Raspberry Farm show 20 years ago. Went to play it 2 weeks ago and-disc rot. Arrggghhhh! Would LOVE to see it released.
My feeling, we have folks who prefer early, primal Dead. We have folks who prefer post ‘77 Dead, and most are probably up for anything. I would be shocked if a ‘68 box didn’t sell out super fast. And if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, well, not much is loved by all (see past discussions). Should not be a big deal.
I DO agree that the older lot of us (yes, that’s me too) would like to see more early, primal Dead before we leave this beautiful planet.

Regarding World Cup-there’s only 3 countries that I’ve ever rooted for: US, England, Holland.

Today, obviously pulling hard for US. If our side loses today, I’ll be for England, then the Dutch.
After that, I really don’t have a rooting interest, although Japan look disciplined, and fun.

So, WC starts in less than an hour. After that, it’s music, music, music. Because…

after a trip lost in space I have stumbled my way back to this site. It was a weird trip that would not allow communications with fellow intrepid travelers or home base. Upon my arrival I learn of Christine's untimely death. She had been part of Fleetwood Mac since 1970, was there when Danny Kerwain was in the band, after Peter Green left she was there, she was there when the great guitarist Bob Welch was in the band and she was there when Lindsey and Stevie joined the group. Never a scene stealer, she allowed Lindsey and Stevie to thrive and grow with the band. Always humble her writings were just "little ditties" that she penned that almost always became hits. Never outspoken but always humble she was the epitome of classic rock female musicians. I miss her already.
I was lucky enough to witness the Mac a couple of times, once in 71 and once again in 74 and then the last time when they all got back together after that long hiatus in 97? She had an awesome stage presence and held her own alongside these great musicians mentioned above. I was never much of a fan of Stevie Nicks, fun to look at back in the day but their music became homogenized in my opinion when they joined. Although I did enjoy the Buckingham/Nicks lp when it came out.
Daverock, not being a fan of the Mac try the lp Mystery to Me or Bare Trees or Future Games or Heroes or hard to Find. All pre-Lindsey and Stevie. Also, their lps with Peter Green would be right up your alley. Bob Welch passed away a while back, I always thought it was a mistake to fire Bob from the Mac, but I was wrong, they made it big time after he left.
Jimi turns 80, wow, where has the time gone? I have always wondered what he would be playing and producing now, if he had hung around. Electric Ladyland is still played here, also Cry of Love, an underrated lp, and of course the psychedelic Axis-Bold as Love is a Masterpiece. As later posthumously released music was available, I think he would have gone to experimental blues or jazz aka Miles with a guitar.
A great anniversary came and went without much mention here, 11-29-80, the Grateful Dead live at Alligator Alley Gym in Gainesville, Fl. The first Shakedown>Franklins tower. A great show that hopefully the soundboard will be found one day.
Will a box of grate 68 Dead sell? I say yes and put me on the "Buy" side of that vote. Perhaps a poll to see if there is interest?
Glad you are on the mend HF, sucks not to be well. I mentioned the Petty box a while back, looks great and I will try to pick it up, cost may be prohibitive. Speaking of Petty, Stevie was indoctrinated into the Heartbreakers and played with them a couple of times, she seem a good fit for that band, she can rock, just not my cup of tea.
Vascular doctor says no operation needed at this time, but we will be watching and waiting as aneurysms don't heal themselves. Dr said that some people have them all their lives and don't even know they have one, found mine when they were doing an ultrasound of my liver.
Looks like I'll be around for a few more _________(fill in the blank) we never know so live baby, live.

I woke up dis mo'nin'...

Got up to..."go down the hall"...at 530 am.

Bronk! A corner of the bed frame pops loose.

"No sleep for you!"

Wife flips out (and a lovely morning to you too, my beloved), I half-awake analyze the situation, spend next 45 minutes fixing things. Soundtrack: Megadeth Rust in Peace.

Life is strange, gentlemen. Very, very strange.

PF, I’m sorry at your misfortune, but that is too damn funny!
Think I would have gone somewhere else to keep sleeping and just left it lol.
Why is it women blame us for these unfortunate anomalies?

68 Box: hey don’t get me wrong, I’m in anytime, I just wonder if outside of the freak zone bubble we live in, if your average casual fan would be? I agree about all that power etc, in fact, funny story: back when we were basically kids and we’d go to parties, we always got stuck outside by the keg with the heavy metalers. Generally they didn’t dig the dead, but we all knew each other and got along, and both factions appreciated some of the similarities in say culture, and both were proud of our outsider status, and hey, at least we weren’t preppy jocks lol.
So if we put say, Blues for Allah on, they’d give us shit, BUT, if Anthem ( or they really liked first album!) or some primal Dead was snuck in, they’d often dig it. The first time we played Anthem they couldn’t believe it was the Dead!
They were like “who’s this, it’s cool?” After we’d tell ‘em who it was, being proud metalers they’d have to feign righteous indignation lol.
I just wonder out my ass if the repetition and less professional elements would resonate with yer weekend fringe fan?
Guess part might depend on box size, and part on number of boxes?
But from inside the freak bubble, I’m sure we’d all like to find out!
I mean many of “us” would gobble that shit up faster than HST with a fresh tab of acid, but “them”, and you have to consider them, because I don’t think there’s that many of “us”, so that’s the only reason I pondered the idea…

I still would prefer one big muscular Primal 66 through 70 beast! It would be a good way to put out some of the really early stuff that might be hard to market on its own? Tid bits etc, bits and pieces, short shows, big jams, partials. You could lump all kinds of cool shit together that on their own might not have the clout.
But in a historical presentation, taking the best stuff from different years, and perhaps weighted more on the back end years, think about it? Say a disc or 2 of 66-67, you could use one disc shows from 68, say three or four shows, throw in a run of 69 from say the Ark, or Avalon, a couple late 69, possibly with some acoustic, and finish it off with similar from 1970!
Sure it’d be big and expensive, but for the old tops here, besides a killer primal set, maybe they feel they have enough other stuff already and aren’t interested at all in later years? So well then think of it as one last blast of R &R, one final big score of scores! If it’s possibly your last one, why not go big!
Just a thought…?

PF, glad you found your way home, and glad your gonna stick around awhile!

Oh yeah…and what ABOUT Gainesville, tap, tap, tap…

It's not well regarded, but I played this posthumous Hendrix album earlier in the week, and it really hangs together well. Those instrumentals are out of this world. It does seem ridiculous, adding and subtracting instruments decades after the originals were cut - but the end result is pretty good.

I'd buy a 66-70 box set in a heart beat. If I could work out how you do it - looks a bit trickier these days.

With the World Cup, as with anything else, I always back the underdog. The more big teams get knocked out the better. As Chuck Berry said - "Such a sight to see/Somebody steal the show". I'm not too keen on the way some of them act after they score a goal, either. That bloke called Grealish qualifies as the most irritating so far.
All best experienced with the commentary turned down and the music turned up.

I love the drama queens. Somebody barely touches them and they go down in a heap looking for the penalty. And when they don't get one the histrionics are laughable. True in other sports too but just more noticeable in soccer. But the US player did get the hardest knee to the crotch I've ever seen. Down for the count. I'm a Messi fan. Dude is unstoppable. Generally would rather watch hockey than futbol or football.
By the way, where is the Jam of the Week?
Today's music recommendation: The Golden Gate Quartet doing the spiritual Go Where I Send Thee. Great harmonies!
Cheers

I dug into my early Fleetwood Mac last night to appreciate Christine. I listened to "Bare Trees" and "Future Games". Two things struck me, you could hear her keyboards on lots of the songs, and you could hear her doing wonderful singing duets with Danny Kirwan. Of course, Danny's songs were really good, showcasing his excellent guitar work. Then there's Christine's songs, her lament about touring -"homeward bound", "Spare me a little of your love", "morning rain" and the lovely "show me a smile". IMHO these were peak FM albums, when there was a lot of room for Danny to stretch out musically, with a great band to support him.

better, Better, BAY-TUH...

My continuing gratitude for well-wishers and I redirect those vibes to others here with life-body complications. I got 90 days to go to measure whether the operation worked, but I'm up and around, etc. In for the long haul, gods willing.

PT -- shop around for that Petty box or send me a PM! Prices do vary widely; I think my final was under $60. Here's the truth: except for exceptional bargains like the 35-disc Mayall box for ~$85, the GD have -- at least in my mind -- established a standard of $10 or less per disc that I assess all other offers by. (Above = bad, below = good, possible purchase.)

On the '68 releases idea, I can't pretend to know whether it would sell beyond this rabid little community. I loved the story that someone told of playing Anthem for non-GD heads and getting a positive from them. I just think they've got limited supplies and want to part them out carefully over time. So here comes JiminMD with the data: 2001, 2009, 2015, which to me says intervals of 8, 6 and now 7 years -- could it be time? I'd guess Dave & Co. could allow the OSF to release the recently discovered tape and not dent the Vault's remaining inventory.

I only know that an occasional surprise of vintage TNT would be most welcome. Throw in some late '67 when the cauldron began to boil, spring '68, and Oct '68, and I'll be your slave! (Okay, swore I wasn't going to get kinky here...)

"Twisted wisdom," is that it, Orrrro?! He of the "white ribbon of death"? Ya know, perhaps for PR purposes (and our friends outside the region) they still label that as "Interstate 70." For those of you who've done the traverse in the past few years, the "Gigantic Hole of Death" is actually just a bit west of Oro's town in central Colorado. It's where a historic mudslide brought a few thousand (millions?) tons of rock and gunk down onto I-70 and obliterated the westbound lane. When you pass and look up into the track, you are looking death in the face. I did that once; now I just accelerate, especially if it's raining. There's some truly stunning drone video of the upper slide area on Youtube -- humbling.

If you're bored out of your mind, but high, check out The Sagebrush Bohemians on Spotify.........

Yes, I like the drama around foul play too. Often some guy will throw himself face down on the grass, and then be all indignant, pretending to have been tripped up. There can't be many matches that go beyond 10 minutes before someone breaks the rules. I can think of only one other game where dishonesty and foul play are so interwoven into the fabric of the whole. And that's politics.

Yeah I noticed the acting skills in the Mexico game lol. Like one chap basically tripped, but gets up all indignant yelling at the Ref and hobbling around holding his shin like he got kicked when it was clear he basically tripped.
I though hockey players were good at the “dive”, but their rank amateurs comparatively!

EDIT, Twisted Wisdom, ment in the best possible way, like a shameful ripoff of some HST esgue complement.
Now settle down and rest up! Don’t make me bring you chicken soup!

DBL EDIT: yep folks, check out our own MR PC and his Sagebrush Bohemians, definitely worth a listen!

Don’t forget about the magic soccer water. They don’t seem to use it as much as they did in the past, but this elixir has the ability to cure any ailment.

Squirt this stuff on a mortally injured player writhing around on the ground and he’s instantly cured, ready to resume play.

I’ll concede that these players are extremely talented athletes, but those antics make the sport unwatchable.

Oro - diving is a thing of the past in hockey. Now you get a penalty. Soccer needs to do the same.

....first of all, the playing area is too big. Make it smaller. Make the goal smaller too. Also, there are too many players. Should be a goalie, a center, two defenseman and two forwards. Also, let the players rotate on and off without a stoppage in play. Finally, cover the field with ice. Now we're talking.

Anyone looking for early Fleetwood Mac albums should check out the Fleetwood Mac 1969-1974 box set, includes Then Play On (fantastic album, some pretty psychedelic stuff), Kiln House, Future Games, Bare Trees, Penguin, Mystery to Me (everybody needs a copy just for Hypnotized), Heroes Are Hard to Find, and Live from the Record Plant: December 15, 1974. All of the albums are remastered and include bonus tracks, packaged in a nice compact box with album cover replicas for the individual albums and all for about $45 or less. And anyone curious about Peter Green should check out his album In the Skies.

That description from Vguy sounds like when me and my brother used to play soccer with whoever was around on the pub car park when we were about 10.

I second Charlie3's recommendation for the 69-74 Fleetwood Box. Not a fancy box, similar in concept to the Winterland boxes-won't take much space on the shelf. Supposedly re-mastered, too.

Edit: And we're not talkin' about the "classic album series" red box re-issue of five of those early albums. That box, like most of the 'classic album series' re-issues, is a great deal, but the 69-74 box is a real box and is light blue.

I've just ordered this one from Amazon for under a fiver. It looks like the same 2013 remaster as then one in the box recommended. One called Bare Trees is also available for the same price, and also looks as though it could be the same as the one in the box. Seems to have more mixed reviews than the other one, though.

....spoiled we are. I looked up the Petty and Mac boxes.
My friends outside this circle tend to make fun of me regarding CD's.
I tell them, "if a satellite gets hit by a meteor, then who has the last laugh".
Looking up "under a fiver".
I have shelves.
Dolphins lost today. Time to regroup.

The San Jose Acid Test took place 57 years ago tonight; this was the first time the Grateful Dead played live as the Grateful Dead. The Rolling Stones were playing down the street at the San Jose Civic Auditorium and Brian Jones & Keith Richards showed up at the Acid Test after their gig was done. One person who was at the test tells a great story on You Tube about meeting Garcia & Pig Pen that night. Well worth looking up.

I wonder if Brian Jones and Keith Richards took acid on that occasion. I presume not, otherwise we would have heard about it.

I agree, but most seem to like "spotifing" or some sort of online music. They have no want or desire to own. A lot of music is sold, but most people don't buy much. You can see this when you go to their homes. 10 cd's on the shelf and asking siri to play whatever.

I don't understand, but Johnny Mathis summed it up best..... "It's not for me to say...."

Sometimes i smile quietly to myself as I envision a world where electronics don't work anymore, BUT, I pull out my vinyl, make a paper cone, stick a pin thru and turn by hand. And the music never stops!

Peter Green and Danny Kirwin killing it!
Searching For Madge, Fighting for Madge rock hard.
And the classic Oh Well. Gotta love the line when god tells you, "But don't ask me what I think of you. I might not give the answer that you want me to".
The transitional first to second line up of players in a band that had a few line ups. This is the album that got me into pre- Buckingham/Nicks Fleetwood Mac.
Cheers and enjoy that one DR

VGUY-Under A Fiver=Less than 5 quid (Pounds). Translated=Less than 5 dollars (approximately)

DENNIS-"Paper Cone with Pin"-I can't stop laughing about that one!!

Final Zappa box of the year, coming in11 days-Can't wait to play it.

Music is the Best!!

Yes...sorry... Mr Ones is right, as per usual. If anything costs less than a fiver, it's very cheap indeed.
"Then Play On" looks good on paper, istshow. My copy has that single on it too, "Green Manalishi". Probably spelt wrong. Should be arriving tomorrow.
Last box set I have got is "Conversation Pieces" a 5 cd set that focuses on David Bowie's journey to "Space Oddity" and the album it featured on. Home demos, BBC recordings - demos for the Mercury label recorded surprisingly well on a cassette machine in his bedroom with one other acoustic guitarist. Humble beginnings don't get much more humble than that. The album known now as "Space Oddity" gets its zillioneth remix/ remaster, and sounds amazing. Lots of repetition - but I loikes it.

The first step is recognising that you have a problem. On Friday I had the following items delivered:
‘Bert Jansch at the BBC’ 8 cd box set - only heard the first cd so far. already worth the money.
‘Plainsong’ 6 cd box set - not played this yet
‘Harvest 50th Anniversary’ box set by Neil Young - not heard this yet. Why do I need this? I’ve got several versions of the album and I’ve seen the BBC In Concert programme.
‘King Crimson at 50’ box set. - I’ve seen the two Blu-ray Discs so far only 4 CDs to go.
‘In Search of Plainsong’ - This is a book so I should be able to read it in short bursts.
How will I find time for it all? Especially as I’m currently doing my annual binge viewing of ‘The Americans’ tv series.

Agree with Nitecat and the others, that little blue Fleetwood Mac box is great; covers the whole period from Then Play On, until the arrival of Nicks/Buckingham. Everyone of these albums are great, so are the bonus tracks(Danny Kirwan's Dragonfly single is a gem, similar mood as Albatross)
Another gem is the just released Sail on Sailor box from the Beach Boys, covers the Carl & the Passions and Holland LPs, and includes a ton of extras, outtakes, and a complete live show from Carnegie Hall. I got the 6 disc set, but there's also a 2-disc version for the less obsessed fan...

Well DP44 finally arrived in this corner of Wiltshire, England, today - 6.5 weeks after the store issued its 'on its way' e-mail, which is a clear record longest delivery time for any GD store purchase for me.......and 3 weeks after UPS lost track of it having presumably handed it over to Royal Mail.

A relief not to have to start chasing the customer service dept, which I was on the verge of doing.

Hopefully anyone else in the UK still waiting will get theirs imminently too.

What the hey?
(Insert sound of crickets)
Must be shoveling?

....I know you're a Motorhead fan. But if you are also a Vans footwear fan, check out the Vans/Motorhead collaboration. Pretty cool Christmas idea from Mrs Proudfoot?

Thanks to all those who recommended "Then Play On" by Fleetwood Mac. ( and apologies to those who are sick of hearing about it). An incredible album - I can't believe I had never heard of it, or seen it recommended anywhere else in all these years. The cover reminds me of those on the early 70's Quicksilver Messenger Service albums a bit. And the first track reminds me of QSM of that period, too - slightly Latin in feel. That track is okay, but the album really picks up after that . Great guitar sound, songs, rhythm. Maybe I should have got one of the boxes featuring it...although I am guessing there is nothing else in their catalogue quite like this one.

Last Dead, to keep it sweet, the second show in Dicks Picks 33. 10/10/76. Also great -I'm tempted to get the vinyl now.

Dennis, VGuy: I too have on many an occasion pondered how the world might exist if we were thrown backward technologically speaking; this discussion and Dennis' reference invokes the ever-awesome Twilight Zone post-apocalyptic episode with the guy who loves to read and gets locked in the vault when the world ends and finds he has all of the books in the world to read but then breaks his glasses.

Same reason I still send my bills through the snail mail, people. That one has just stuck with me though more as a habit than really thinking the world will end; but these are heady times

Recovering from COVID, tested positive on Monday but feel myself coming out of the swamp. The well of gravity was inescapable for the first 24 hours, then my antibodies kicked into overdrive - it was noticeable. Second time in a year (Jan'22, first timer) despite vax & boost, but hey, now I am super-vaxxed, amirite?

Daverock - that's really cool you're falling into a Fleetwood Mac-hole. they are a solid pillar in the halls of music. Saw them about 8 or 9 years ago, Iggy got us tickets and while I loved the music at the show, I was astounded how everyone just sat in their seats. I haven't been to a rock show in a looooong time (if ever?) that no one was up and moving. It felt weird. But then again the demographic did sway upward, so I get it on that level. It was still weird. But the music was phenomenal as was the production.

Be Well People.
Sixtus

Sixtus, a good 5-6 years back, Bonnie Raitt's show at Red Rocks -- for the first time -- featured reserve seats down front. With most acts in the past, including hers, the first 20 rows was Gen Admission -- and the rabid fans (why are you looking at me?) would line up at 8-9am on the east stairs for the dash into the front rows as doors opened at ~6pm. Long haul but that's the cost of the first few rows at the Rocks. This always guaranteed that the core audience really wanted that artist, that show and we (yes, '78 til, say, 3-4 years ago) made sure every artist we saw (GD, ABB, Dylan, Raitt, etc) knew we were in support.

Fast forward to the first year that Bonnie made reserved seats out of the first 20 rows. We assumed it was a sop to an aging fan base. (I manned the stairs from my earliest 20s to my latest 50s before slacking off.) But with reserved seats, a lot of newcomers were really enamored of their oh-so-tiny territory and everyone remained seated. Bonnie delivered but was clearly mystified by the lack of froth coming from the audience. Oh well, everyone finally decided that it was okay to get up and boogey during the encore and Bonnie stayed for a few more tunes. But I was appalled at the lack of audience excitement and involvement in giving the performer something to work with or off of. Same thing once with a Lyle Lovett show -- apparently, it was date night. Lyle's Large (swing) Band hits the stage hot and I jump up and start dancing (in my peculiar way). Some woman behind me yells "Sit Down!" and I look around and I swear I am the only person out of 10,000 on my feet. Oh boy. Later, when it rained, it was "okay" to stand up...

If it's a theater show, I've sometimes sat down. But outdoor arena ala Red Rocks?! Only for the occasional break from the boogeyinig. Thankfully, that was a one-off and Bonnie killed it this past summer. But that sitting down jive can sure kill the vibe.

If I remember rightly, a lot people used to lie on the floor waiting for Hawkwind to come on. And then struggle to their feet when the band came on. Maybe it was just me.
I saw Pink Floyd in a huge air hangar on the Animals tour in 1977. After hours of sitting on the floor, the band came on, and one bloke in front of me stood up. The guy next to me shouted at him to sit down, and then turned to me and said, "The Floyd deserve to be listened to." It was partly this attitude that led to punk.
Mind you, that was the opposite end of the spectrum . Short haired herberts jumping about, barging into you. You've heard of the blues - that was the black and blues.

Kind of surprising, but not really, to see that the TTB's outstanding "I am the Moon" has been completely ignored by the Grammys and critics' year-end best of lists. It seems clear that once you get pegged as a "jam band" the recording industry and critics decide that there's no point in taking your music seriously, no matter how many people flock to your shows or how good your recorded output actually is. It happened to the GOGD, it happened to Phish, and to pretty much everybody who's gotten pegged as part of the jam band scene. Now it's happening to TTB, and it'll happen to Goose or whoever else comes along.

Have to say: I've never understood this. Bands that can actually play their instruments in a live setting, and who can even improvise on them, and develop devoted audiences on that basis, they don't count somehow. Probably because their music doesn't lend itself to radio or tik tok, and doesn't have much to do with the trends that wannabe hipsters pride themselves in being up on. Meanwhile, you get "bands" that are basically one guy and his girlfriend with a laptop in mommy's basement, who would get eaten alive if they tried to play in front of more than a couple dozen people, and that's considered a cutting edge rock band these days.

I guess it doesn't matter anyway. The jam band world is its own ecosystem, sustained by us die hards who like to stand up at concerts (maybe even dance) and who want to hear bands that can actually play for a couple hours without endlessly repeating the same three licks and the only groove they know.

OK, end of rant. Last five!

Charles Mingus: East Coasting
The Meters: Look a Py Py
ABB: The Cream of the Crop 2003
GOGD: The Warfield October 1980
Sturgill Simpson: Cuttin Grass

...The Harder It Is To Stand Up!!

I almost hate to admit this, but these days, if I can sit and listen, I quite prefer that now. I realize that I cannot dance sitting down, but at my tender, advanced age, sitting and listening is good!!
Occasionally, I'll get front row seats of this section or that, and really look forward to being able to SIT!! and don't you know usually, there will be rude, entitled fans up dancing, and blocking my view. Phish fans are notorious for going to areas that they have not purchased tickets for and feeling like they own the place.
I know, I know, "Hey kids, get off my lawn". I guess I AM that guy now. Sad.

Last 5:

Chicago-Live at Carnegie Hall-Disc 4 of 4-disc set from early '07
Jeff Buckley-Live A L'Olympia
Jeff Buckley-Mystery White Boy
Peter Gabriel Live '87, first of 2-Bonus Discs from So re-issue
Monkees-Disc 4 of new Headquarters 4-cd box

The new kids in town at our house. Only shot of them together at the moment. They move too fast. Need to work on a beauty shot like Mr. Ones has. The ginger boy is Tigger (shelter name) and we're thinking of going with Hobbs or Otto. The tuxedo boy is Pepe (Le Pew? shelter name) and Checkers or Big Boy Pete are in the running. Feel free to vote on those choices. Both strays from the shelter in Ridgway and Tigger was one of those two days from death cases that made it. Tough row to hoe but it's all good now. So far they like the Dead more than classical.
Cheers

....I took that personally Mr. Ones.
I prefer having a seat these days, but I'm flexible. Just bought Widespread Panic tix for here in March. Options for floor with no seats or loft with seats. I picked seats this go around.

Greetings All.

I wonder if anyone here might be able to direct me to where my question might be best posted, or perhaps, to an answer. I would like to know if anyone has knowledge of where I might find an entire list of all the Grateful Dead show played that is available in an excel spreadsheet, or something like that.

I am familiar with entire listings of shows and websites that contain all of the information I am looking for. What I am looking for is something that is already available in a table format or a spreadsheet. If not, then I guess I can work on one and then share it.

Thank you for any help or suggestions.

Thank you for all of your music commentary and general positivity.

Have a beautiful day.