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  • Vguy72
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    Phish's ProShot video of the NYE gag....

    ....is up on utoob. Get sum!
    If you're not familiar with past NYE or Halloween gags, you may be saying to yourself "WTF?" If you are, then talk about phan service. 30 minutes of goosebumps for me at least.
    Their lore runs deep.
    Fingers crossed they play the new MSG Sphere here on Halloween. I love these goofballs.

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    Anthem of the Sun bubbled up this morning...HOORAY! God bless the Grateful Dead.

    Yes, the coup leaders are walking free. Fuck 'em with the iron sausage. Life is indeed not fair or right or just. This country is a joke. It completely boggles my mind. AND, those leaders are supported and loved by millions. I spit on their haircuts...

    screams...I never did see why people thought Janis Joplin was so great. Her singing makes ping-n-pong go hiding upwards.

    GD screaming and screeching...sometimes I am ok with it, other times...no.

    If you don't like my comments, take comfort in the fact that the feline in my house still thinks the couch is a good pot to piss in.

  • Gary Farseer
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    Our minor discussion of 12/30/86 got me thinking, especially what you posted.

    When I rate shows seen, 12/30/86 was never in my top 5.

    Now that I ponder that show, it surely is in my top 5. I might watch it again this weekend. It wasn't even in my top 10 until our discussion and the re-watch. It may make my top 3 and far stretch #2...Have to do some serious thankin bout thangs.

  • Gary Farseer
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    Weekend Comin...

    Time for some corn squeezzins, bear drankin, and hog-leg rollin...

  • daverock
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    Scream and scream again

    Roky Erikson could unleash a blood curdling scream when the mood took him. The one captured on the live 13th Floor Elevators show in California 1966, on the cover of The Beatles "The Word" is truly harrowing. No doubt that the doors of perception were open there. Or that they might have been better left closed.

    There was a connection between Roky and Janis Joplin, both coming from Texas. I think she was mooted to perform with the Elevators in the very early days. Who influenced who, or whether they developed their vocal tics independently of each other is now lost in the mists of time, and matters not.

  • Oroborous
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    The Screaming, is the hardest part

    Of all the GD things that have not aged well, the screaming is perhaps the most obvious, at least in my household.
    If it weren’t for the yelling/screaming, I might of been able to convert the Other One over the years, but as soon as she hears, ahem, certain “things”, well, let’s just say the vibe changes in our house lol. 😉

    We often wonder where that all came from?
    Was it Janis’s influence in the sixties, was it drugs, was it rooted in the inadequate equipment and no monitors early on, was it just part of the sixties rock culture in general and all that bottled up sixties energy? I’d say probably D all of the above?
    I believe I read something once that Bob got into the primal scream thing back in the seventies, but Pig, and even sometimes Jerry went there too, so maybe that’s not the antecedent, but it probably is why he seemed to up it.
    Or, knowing Bobby, if he knew some folks didn’t like it, he did it more on purpose as he’s been known to do lol.
    I’m guessing Donna was coached by Bob on this?
    Of course this is another unfortunate idiosyncrasy of Sound Boards: the vocals are often unnaturally loud comparatively to the instruments etc, making it more noticeable, but certainly not the root cause…
    I’m sure it wasn’t so bad live, well at least until later when Bob started doing as a normal part of some songs i.e., Estimated…where sometimes it was cool, but often it was too sustained and/or over the top.
    Curious if anyone else has ever thought about this?

    Personally, I think a little of short duration can add some good energy, i.e., OMSN, but to me, there is a fine line and sometimes it’s too over the top and/or goes on too long…but that’s just me.

    I’m so glad Damar’s doing better but I just knew the league would f##$& us (and possibly Cinnci) and not finish the game. Hey, anything to promote their new golden boy Mahommes now that Tommy’s not it so much.
    If he had to come to Bu faf in January with the mafia after all the teams been through this year….bastards!

    And as long as I’m being Debbie downer, 2 year anniversary today and the main traitors to our country who committed treason via an attempted coup on national television, still walk free while the prisons are still filled by folks for minor drug busts…

    Ok, sorry, (smack my self outta it) time for a bad ass Here Comes Sunshine!
    Happy Friday folks!

    EDIT: thanks for the DotD intel Conkid and Cousins!

  • Cousins Of The…
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    Wailing and Screaming

    Donna's wail was actually much better in 76/77, pretty much in tune.
    On the other hand, Bobby's screaming in Estimated got longer and more annoying as years went on(somebody here qualified it as histrionics, which sounds about right.)

  • 1stshow70878
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    Al vs. Pat

    Near as I could find Al hasn't attended a show. And even though they were all environmentalists Tipper was the Deadhead in the family that got the Dead invited to the residence according to the Jerry and Woody Harrelson smoked in a bathroom there story. Pat is known to have attended 6 shows or more usually with a camera in tow. No Bill Walton but...and then it comes down to is President Pro-Tem as high a rank as President of the Senate. I went with equal as the job is the same, it's just temporary. How's that for splitting hairs? LOL
    Cheers

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    nice singing ?

    I always liked the LLR's from 1976 to 1977 most - Donna Jean at her best, singing harmony. I would also say that was my favourite period for the band in terms of their singing generally - Jerry's voice seemed to improve to me during this period. Obviously, I don't listen to them for their singing abilities, so I prefer earlier years - but that was one quality that seemed to develop to my ears. It was certainly an improvement from 1974.

    I think I tend to go off ballads more quickly than other types of music because, inevitably, they always tell the same tale. Slow songs telling a story can get boring in time as there only so many times you can listen to the same song telling exactly the same tale. The interest then lies in how such a song is played, rather than in the actual song itself. To me, "Friend of the Devil" got deadly dull in its slow style. But if they had perked it up a bit, as in pre1974 versions, I would have enjoyed it a lot more.

    I also bought Dawn of the Dead on dvd quite a few years ago. I remember enjoying it - clips of acid tests which are intriguing. If I'm remembering the right film -I think I got it around the same time as that Merry Pranksters one "Magic Bus" and I may be confusing the two.

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    Sen. Pat Leahy of VT still the highest ranking Deadhead?

    VP Gore - President of the Senate 1992-2000

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....been slacking, so I decided on GD 6.22.73 Vancouver. It's fours discs. One for each bedroom.
Regarding vax-deniers. Yeah. I have a strong opinion regarding them. My body my choice, unless it's regarding abortions, then "how dare you!"
Lame.
There is a reason there wasn't a red wave. Conservatives are out of touch and want it to be the 50's again.
Not happening. Maybe put forth some legislation that helps the younger generation. Stuff other than "owning the libs" and "these books are toxic" and "go woke go broke" and "religion ahead of politics" and "liberals are grooming your kids to become gay."
Some guy in Texas put forth a bill banning social media to people under 18 years old ffs. How do you plan to enforce that?
Smaller government my ass.
I could go on and on and on.
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Get scored on by Saad while CO has a power play.
Sad alright. Then they waste the rest of the PP.
Then a quick goal to even it up. Where was that for 3 periods?
OT. Better put on some Dead for luck.
My STL buddy will never let me live it down.
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Oh, and the Donkeys are getting their clock cleaned by KC. Maybe next year already.

Metallica albums 2, 3, 4 please
Megadeth whatever I have heard so far

mix 'em up into one big pan of specialized brownies with vanilla frosting, give me a glass of milk, and lemme rock. (get it? get it? "Lemmy" rock? HAHAHAHAHA!!) Ha....

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Just because.

Paul Weller-Wild Wood
Paul Weller-Paul Weller
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Kantner/Starship-Blows Against The Empire
REM Live-2-disc set from 2007

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Give 9/6/80 a listen. Hot.

Any of you esteemed folks have the good fortune of having attended?

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Mornin', rockers!!!

Lewiston? You bet, my friends and I were there for this very very fine show. End of summer, outdoors, Maine, other fine musicians (if I recall correctly, Levon Helm and Roy Buchanon), and our heros, the Grateful Dead. Big fun!!! Looking back over 22 years of going to shows, this one was one of the most enjoyable........

At the time, it seemed like a very long show. So-so soundboards of the first set have circulated for a long, long time, never run across top notch soundboards of the whole show. It would make a very nice nice official release some day!

Every day that is born into the world comes like a burst of music and rings the whole day through, and you make of it a dance, a dirge, or a life march, as you will......

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My final Dead concert, indeed a very fine one, outdoors on a very warm late summer day. We were down front for a while, local friends worked as security for the show, shout out to Dave A. The atmosphere was fantastic, a long lovely afternoon into evening event, we were practically weeping with joy. A little like the Dead were playing in my back yard. Also my farewell to Maine, moved to Vermont right after. The so called state fairgrounds was a harness racing track, about to become obsolete because of Scarborough Downs. Knew Lewiston well, years as a student at Bates in the early 70s, a fair share of that at Lou's Place, the pub just next door to the track. Makes me smile to know that Doc11, whom I have never met was at this event and as well, Doc ran around this very area I inhabit now many moons ago while he was at Dartmouth. Fresh snow yesterday Doc, hope its not too hot down there in FL.

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Your final GD show?

After Lewiston, I would have gone to a few others. But I don't know your whole story.

Anyway...September 6, 1980. A date that will live in utter joy.

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Jam after Alligator. Sixtus put me on this one a while back. Good call.

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A Winter land 1977/1978 box set is a possibility. There are shows from March and December for 1977 and shows from October 1978. They could combine both years, good shows.

Hard to say exactly why, Proudfoot, fell off the bus after I moved in 1980. The repertoire had changed, the jams not as compelling to me. Deep into jazz, a different vibe, what was happening with Jerry and shakedown scene was concerning, etc. People in the music business told crazy stories familiar by now. The death of Lowell George in 1979 had hit too close to home, more than I can say. Who knew George would show up on Gomer Pyle a couple days after the release of the Dead's first album? Eventually the early Dicks Picks brought me back on. One toe in that water, next thing I knew... and now, BTK has me thinking Winterland... setting the wayback machine for March 18, 1967, it runs fast, Bobby sounds so young, up front... Smokestack, Viola, lots of Pig, so primal.

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Like everyone else here, Lewiston would make a GRATE official release.

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This is a cool show that would make a great release. It has version of the Golden Road, not many of those out there.

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Sorry about your boy, Eichel. That was a bad trade.

Lewiston. What a great show. One of the first tapes I ever had. Right after Cornell. Maine is probably my favorite state to see a show. Never had a bad time there.

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....lower body injury. He'll be back. But yeah. The injuries in general are piling up. Went to the game against the Flyers Friday.
And the Dolphins continue to Dolphin. To say I've seen this movie before is an understatement.
100% behind an official Lewiston release. Grate show. Long too.

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I used to have a hissy tape of this show back in the day. Hopefully it wouldn't put them off releasing shows of this vintage if they had them, but in less than optimum sound quality. Hopefully it wouldn't put people off buying them too. Golden Road is right.

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3-18-67 is in the Vault in outstanding sound quality, based on The Same Thing by Pig from that show released on the 5-disc So Many Roads box.

What would be so wrong about releasing 3-18-67 (87 minutes) and a fall '67 show of similar length, toss in a stray dog track (no full show) and call it a DaP?

Otherwise that early stuff is gonna languish in the Vault without a plan.

In other words, I COMMAND YOU OH DAVE L!!

I tend to forget about that "So Many Roads" box. 3/18/67 would make a perfect Dave's Picks with another show attached from 1967. I'd be more for that than another 1977 show. Or another two 1977 shows for that matter.

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no Jimmy Herring but everyone else in attendance at the Xmas Jam in Asheville. Check out the setlist for Phil and Phriends at Jambands. com

Open Sesame Dave L, the genie has been commanded, time to release a few of these early primals as a 3CD collage, DaP46?, we know they will clean up as HF documents. Less than a week after I saw Jimi at the Washington Hilton in DC, March 1968, he was cutting his teeth on guitar strings up in Lewiston, Maine at the Armory.

I still say lump it all in a big primal box (67-70) and get it out before we croak!
Times running out, screw this trickling out the vault!
Smithers, release the reels!

Yeah DR, anything but 77 at this point…

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Bro, I did a feature article on that show for Univibes: The International Jimi Hendrix Magazine by interviewing a few folks who attended, plus photographer John Gossage who shot the heck out of it. I have three of his excellent B&W pics framed on my living room wall.

Do you remember the "Chicken Man" incident?

Don't believe we have a legit tape of that show, tho a boot purports to be it.

Roy Buchanan attended one of the shows, but accounts that claim he and Jimi jammed later have been credibly refuted.

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Just watched a very cool documentary about Paul Butterfield and his band called "Horn from the Heart." Highly recommend this on the utuube. Lots of interviews with band mates Elvin Bishop and others tell a great story.

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NiteCat, that Paul Butterfield documentary sounds very cool, Butter field is one of my favorite harp players. Thanks, I will definitely check that out!

Meteors are out tonight... Have told some of this story before here, so please forgive repeat and long version... hung with a group of high school friends deep into music, tuned in and up to speed with what was going on... one was Bob Ewan, who became Bobby Radcliff, blues guitarist, after he went to Chicago to study with Magic Sam. Somehow Bob got picked to drive Jimi Hendrix around DC for his first visit in August 1967 when he played the Ambassador Theater. Bob was fifteen at the time, so did not have his drivers license. Listened to Are You Experienced summer into fall 67 with rapture, could not believe what Jimi was doing on guitar. After Axis was released late in 67, when friends heard Jimi was coming back to DC, we bought tickets ($4) to the March 10th 1968 Hilton show. My father drove us down there, no license yet, we ate red Lebanese hash before hand because reefer at the time really stank, so obvious. General admission on folding chairs in the ballroom, we were about tenth row. Soft Machine opened the show, there was a light show called the Mark Boyle Sense Laboratory, brief pause then Jimi, Mitch and Noel came out and the place went nuts. Yes, at one point a guy with a chicken head mask climbed on stage and tackled Jimi who kept playing as if nothing happened. We were convinced it was staged, part of of the show. There are recordings of this show, horrible audio quality, the entire set was only about 45 minutes. A detailed account of how the chicken head thing came to happen was published not long ago by the Washington Post, a prank by college kids. Saw Jimi again later on at the Baltimore Civic Center, no chicken head. Will surf the web for those photos... began to take my camera to many shows not long after, have good photos of Roy B, decent ones of my first Dead show at Baltimore Civic Center spring 1973... many others, checked but could not find probable you in the Friday afternoon Watkins Glen shots.

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One of the earliest excerpts of 1966 I have heard/seen is the dvd of the Acid Test from 1/8/66. Plenty of live Dead, and a bit of hickey between Pigpen and the Pranksters - "Hey man, stop yo babbling and fix these microphones". Really good sound quality - if it's on youtube, definitely worth checking out. It would be a great addition if this film, and any others like it, could be included in a box of early Dead.

Those Soft Machine shows with the Mark Boyle light show circa 1968 are legendary in their own right. Together with Pink Floyd, Soft Machine seem to have been one of the main live bands of early British psych. Never really given due credit.

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Stop press its 09/09/72 👍🏻

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Yep, I just saw my email from Dead.net. DaP 46 looks great. I think several of you were calling for a fall 1972 show so there it is . I have not heard 9/9/72 so I am going to hold off until I get my copy in the mail. It seems like 9/19/72 only has audience sources in circulation (I could be wrong) so that will be nice to get some snippets from that show. We already got the big jam form 9/3/72 so bonus disc will round out some of that.

At this point for me, I am open to any show that is released from any era. However, I will not lie about the fact that I am extra excited for DaP 45 & 46 as 1977 and 1972 are my favorite years of the GD. Maybe number 47 will be an 85 show (or two). That would hit the sweet spot for me. However it doesn't really matter anyway.

Once again, thank you Dave L and crew!

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Sept '72 is as good as it gets without the grease, so this will be a huge release.

However, the release of portions of my first show (9-19-72) confirms that they've given up the search for the missing reel and I have to surmise that the OSF now knows the contents of the banana boxes and the missing 9-19-72 reel is not there.

Oh well, guess I'll just have to enjoy four hours of Sept '72 and the several hundred other shows I have in pristine sound quality............... you win some, you lose some. Though a portion of my first show is hardly losing.

P.S. Wonder what this selection means for the year's box set? Not gonna be fall '72. So, maybe a 50th Summer '73? Plenty of material, between entire barn-burning shows and uneven though iconic shows (Watkins Glen main performance).

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Let me take your coat for you, welcome, welcome. We haven't seen the likes of you since the St. Louis box set, and even that wasn't enough.

Any '72 is great '72. Still, I wondered why he chose the Palladium show from the 9th as opposed to the next night w/Dark Star. The Dark Star fanatic in me always wants the Dark Star show, and Dave certainly likes a good Dark Star. I have a solid SBD from the 10th. So I checked out archive.org and learned David Crosby was a guest on the 10th. I have a feeling that played a lrole in the release decision. First world issues.

I'm usually not too keen when they include duplicate songs on the Bonus Disc, but I would be happy with both Bird Songs from the two incomplete shows, 9/3 & 9/19. That would give us three 1972 Bird Songs in one release. YES. I am o-freaking-kay with that. They were playing the most killer Bird Songs in this timeframe. It would certainly make up for 4 discs of 1972 and no Dark Star.

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I don’t know this show but I’ve NEVER heard anyone discuss it.
I mean we have some serious fall 72 nuts here (yeah, I’m looking at you Mr PC), and out of all the shows folks discuss I’ve never heard a word about it?
So that and no Dark Star has me worried that once again he’s picked a good city and street, but gone to the wrong house! I’m sure I’ll dig it, I always do, but with no Dark Star etc Im not sure how much rotation it’ll get?
First world whining to be sure lol

Good stories DMCVT, keep ‘em coming por favor!

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Great that another show from this timespan is being released. I would get anything from this era without hesitating. Pity it's coming out under the Dave's Picks banner though, with a bonus disc that you can only buy if you subscribe. Needless to say, I would love to get the bonus disc, but I wouldn't buy the two October 77 shows if I had the choice, and not knowing what is in the pipeline, I can't be sure number 47 and 48 would be to my liking, either. So I guess I have to decide if it's worth subscribing and getting shows I don't want, for the one bonus disc I do. I don't like this buy one, get one free approach at all.

I know I could subscribe and then sell the ones I don't want online - but I have never sold anything this way, and can't really be bothered looking into how you do it.

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that a fall '72 box was "inevitable" -- I believe that's the word he used. And, yes, I leapt to the bait like a trout to the fly! Dave said that maybe 4-5 years ago and, knowing Dave as well as I do (I don't know the guy at all), he says all kinds of things but that doesn't mean they're gonna happen. So, a mere 4-5 hours of sacred Sept '72 will just have to suffice until such time as "They" decide on a fall '72 box.

So, what's the speculation or wish list for the coming year's box? "They" gotta do a Wake of the Flood 50th, right? Is the bonus show with that all the '73 they're gonna muster in 2023? Perhaps.

That is all.

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So, following up the excellent and dud-free 2022 sub series, we're starting off 2023 with 2 shows from '77 and then 4 discs from fall '72? Yes, please.

Announcing releases from '77 and '72 certainly seems like a good way to drive up subscription sales. You guys are a lot more knowledgeable than I am about what's good and still in the vault from those periods, but all I can say is I've never heard a "bad" show from either year.

Box sets? I have no idea how or if what's issued on the DaP series impacts their thinking about possible boxes. But I sure like some of the suggestions I'm hearing. A summer '73 box? Or a '60s set? Just take all my money, now.

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King Crimson: The Great Deceiver
Blind Willie McTell: Death Cell Blues
Neil Young: Noise & Flowers
Jefferson Airplane: After Bathing at Baxter's
John McLaughlin: Extrapolation

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I once pooh-pooh'd all the speculation on what's next, and now, for some reason, I'm the very worst speculator. And obviously my "great ideas" are pretty obvious attempts at mining the Vault. Primal box? Pretty easy to want that. Summer '73 box? Obvious. I mean, what the hay, how about '69 box?

And I sit here with several prodigous stacks of CDs ordered in the past two months. Tampa Red, BB King's earliest singles, a couple Dylan that previously escaped me, Pee Wee Crayton, Lonnie Johnson, Rev. Gary Davis -- I'm up to my keister in music.

But with the GD, it's more of a downright mania.....

So the next time I write "That is all," brace yourself for more to come.

Mmk. I don't think I have ever heard it, bring it on.

"first thing you learn" (though) "is that you always gotta wait"

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Is anyone else having trouble checking your order status? I ordered my subscription right away when it was announced. Now it does not recognize my order number, email, or zip code.

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Hey SGD1977, I had the same problem until I entered the 9-digit zip code (5 + 4) that I was prompted to use when I first placed my order for both the Dave's subscription and also for Ace. Hope maybe that'll help. Onward.

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Hey rockers!!!

People come to music to seek oblivion: is that not also a form of deception?

I listened to the highlights of 9/9/72 on my commute home. Very fine stuff, especially Bird Song and Truckin'. It is definitely "of a kind" with the other shows from the Fall of 1972. Which means it's really really good music, enjoyable, and worthy of release.

Is it classic? Well, maybe not, but that's OK. Is it a step down from the creamy intensity of the Europe 72 tour? Well, maybe, but that's OK too. I predict that fans of this time period will really like it.

As far as releasing "fragments" of shows, I'm OK with that. It's a remnant, a holdover from my years of trading tapes. We often had only fragments of shows, but enjoyed them anyways. Just because something is "incomplete", does that mean it shouldn't be released so we can enjoy it? Decide for yourselves......

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Gonna check out Guillermo Del Toro's Pinocchio tonight. Stop motion is my kryptonite and Del Toro is incredible.

Glad to hear that others are not opposed. I’ve never had a problem with it.

Now send us 9/19/70. Just be sure to include the DS and Not Fade. Thank you.

Someone brought up the So Many Roads box recently. That is an absolutely fantastic release and is nothing but fragments.

As is Ladies and Gentleman . . .

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Fragments of of 1967, 68, 69, & 70, would make a killer box set!

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Just read on that one particular site that someone had an email exchange with Dave L years ago in which DL responded that they have 5 of 6 reels of 9-19-72 in the Vault, missing one reel.

Aaaaarrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just doing a tragic operatic turn this morning. I suppose if that one reel shows up they could put out the whole show. But if it doesn't, how about 5 of 6 reels??

Now, THAT's a fragment!

Oh yeah, got on here to write: fragments = good. But include shows for which they have nearly complete reels. 5 of 6 is good with me.

Why is it that my first show is so important? Is it like losing one's virginity?

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