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So excited, I cannot WAIT to put this in the ol' cd player!!
Thanks Dave!!

Hey rockers!!

Thread without a post, like a day without sunshine. Orange sunshine, that is.................

We can see loss as something missing, but that missing space can be filled with something else, and that creates healing....

Doc
People like music when they're in love, but they don't need it as much. You need music when you're missing someone or you're pining for someone or you're forgetting someone or you're trying to process what just happened......

Greetings to the good ForensicDoc. Hey pal, I'm on the mend and your line about music filling in the hole when you're missing someone really struck a ... chord here. Thanks for that.

Okay, the DP series must be quite successful as Dave L gets permission, seemingly each year now, to do one four-disc release outside the bonus disc. And so cool to put two Portland shows that drop neatly into that 4-disc bundle.

As much as I look forward to the upcoming '72, a fat serving of brick-smashing fall '77 is gonna land in open arms at this house, especially as late January downright begs for some shack shakin' (of the musical variety but, hey, if can you shake the shack in another domain, GO FOR IT!!)

I looked at The Tapers Compendium last night and it reminded me that I caught the band at Englishtown, 3 Sept '77 and again in Denver, 9 October '77, so a bit of book-ending to the coming release.

Those were the days, eh boys? We had the GD coming around regularly before and after hiatus, and Jer bands coming around thick and fast that for a moment there we (almost) took Jer for granted. Truly a great time to be alive. And I still feel that way.

Not easy though. It seems my password and email no longer go together, so after about 20 minutes, I decided to check in as a guest and order the booty that way. Maybe they are offended because I said I wasn't a Deadhead a few months back, and this is their way of punishing me.

I can remember my record player breaking down in the 1980s, just as I was starting a relationship. It took me about 18 months to get round to getting it fixed. I would spend all my time round her place - no more sitting at home out of my box listening to records. All good things come to and end though, and the relationship ended. I got my record player fixed, and then it was back to sitting at home out of my box listening to records.

Let the fun begin.
PLAY DEAD
PLAY DEAD LOUD

By this point in these releases its cool to see another twofer. I'm not familiar with these shows so they'll be fresh to my ears. The next puck with the bonus is always something to look forward to.

Growing as a kid in the 70s I was fortunate to have older siblings who collected records of bands I still listen to as a "gen x" person. The Grateful Dead didn't really come into my orbit until my high school teenage years in the 1980s, but plenty of other bands and musicians like Jeff Beck who really piqued my interest in music. Particularly the Blow By Blow, Wired, With Jan Hammer Live and There and Back. Over the years I've studied and listened to lots of music history and historic events. I'm sure Deadbase lists a few shared bills between The Dead and The Jeff Beck Group from the 60s ( and anybody who witnessed that are lucky and would live to read some stories about those experiences).

Tragic couple of weeks of big losses and Jeff Beck really was the first time in a while that a celebrity death struck a nerve in me. I'm lucky to have seen him a couple times. What a loss. ;(

Nobody seems to know why but with the separation of "the store" and the rest of the website one now has to have a different password to order. We all found out while trying to order the subscription or anything else for that matter. Repeated call outs to the powers and Marye have led me to believe there is nothing being done about it and it seems we are stuck with having two identities here. It doesn't feel like a big thing until there is a time constraint such as your choice selling out quickly and the frustration that can cause. Glad you got your order in. I think we are going to love this one!
Cheers

but...you look like one. Are you sure? not a bad moniker to have hung on ya Daverock.
Oct. 77 What a great month for the Dead starting with these shows and ending up with another Dave's pick 10-29, another great release. I personally have not heard the 1st show so this will be a cherry poppin listen for that one. Have had 10-2 for years, it's a good one for sure.

So glad I got the subscription this year. First two will definitely be great! Really looking forward to that bonus disc.

Ist show - Yes, that makes sense about the separate identities. Well, it doesn't make sense that it is so-but I understand what you are saying. I wondered whether it would sell out while I was figuring out what to do, but luckily it didn't.
I actually got these two shows as bootlegs on cd about 20 years ago. The first one didn't sound too bad, as I remember it,but the second one, the one that starts with Casey Jones was a bit rough. Good shows - but not heard to their best advantage on those boots.

PT - maybe I am just being cocky, but I have never like labels or definitions of what we are. In any area. I've listened to The Dead far more than anyone else in the last 40 odd years. In fact, if some of my current friends saw the inside of my house they would think I'd lost my mind. Which I have.

I definitely peeked at the setlists when they were first announced, but only sampled a few tunes briefly from the Archive. Before hitting the Seaside Chat, I sampled first bit of Tennessee Jed, and these sound fantastic from that little bit. Heavy drums, clear guitars. Will dive back into the Listening Party a little later tonight to get a better feel for it, especially hearing where Phil sits in the mix. But so far, so good! The setlists are good, especially the bustouts. One song I did listen to was Dupree's to hear how the first one in 8 years went. They played it quite a bit that Fall '77, and DaP 12 11/4/77 has a particularly nice one, and the bustout on 10/1 was good. Not a huge fan of Casey Jones, but do like ones with particularly strong rave up endings. And 4 full cds of new-to-me Dead is cause for celebration.

When they announced Dave's 46, I checked out the massive Other One on 9/9/72, and gracious sakes alive, what a monster version! It immediately went into my, admittedly, dynamic top 10 Other Ones, maybe top 5. Haven't listened to it again, wanting to wait for the Normanized edition.

2023 1973 box? 2/9 versus 2/15 becomes moot with the release of both? Or Kezar, RFK, and Watkins Glen? Or 2/9 as the bonus show with Wake of the Flood, saving 2/15 for a future Dave's? Just a guy asking questions.

And to daverock, that checkout experience for the subscription was frustrating, can't imagine worrying about a ticking clock on buying a la carte. Good thing you're not a serious Deadhead or anything. ;)

Oh, folks here might be interested in an encounter I had at work with a man who sang on the song Only Have Eyes For You way back 60+ years ago. He still tours at nearly 80, and I told him I've managed just one show since COVID, and it was Phish at Great Woods last summer. He said last time he was at Great Woods was for the Allman Brothers back in '97. Then goes on to tell me he knew Gregg. And Duane. And has been longtime friends with Jaimoe. But he was also friends with Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, and was telling me (the biggest Duane fan this side of hendrixfreak) about how the best thing about Duane was how he played all these sessions in all kinds of styles and just made it all better (similar to the elegies for Mr. Beck here recently)! But he really blew my mind when he told me he was friends with Sam Cooke! He was an awesome guy, hope to chat with him more again, bet he has an endless supply great stories.

Great release

I turned 9 years old in 1977. I loved the seventies... I wasn't getting high or laid then, but it sure seemed like everyone else was. I still remember everything. The 1970s will always remain, for me, the golden decade. It's hard to explain unless you had a similar experience. Watching movies from that time, listening to the music... takes me back.

Not that I'm trying to get away from everything. I'm ok with 2023 (I mean, what choice do I have?).

Previous posts for whatever reason took me back to banging girls in cars to Journey. Yes, in the 1980s I got quite alot in the backseat of various automobiles and the preferred musical selection was Journey, either Escape or Departure.

Good times.

\m/

There HAS to be an announcement this spring, pertaining to the GD and ABB co-releasing a small boxed set of 6/9 and 6/10/73 for the 50th anniversary, no?! Not a limited edition sold on just the GD and ABB sites, but rather a set that goes out into the stores and music sites everywhere?

A guy on the opponents' team at steel-tip darts tonight had on a GD shirt, and at our homebrew holiday party the other night, the brewery that hosted us had a beer named "Morning Dew". On our teams' darts, our darts team all have Stealie and Dancing Bear dart flights that I purchased for them . . .

Be kind, rewind . . .

I was 19 going on 20 that year. I think it's fair to say I found it far easier getting high that year than I did getting laid. Not that I would have owned up to that at the time. Actually, I might of done - I thought I was quite cool being wrecked at that time. You've heard the phrase "elegantly wasted." I was inelegantly wasted

Alvarhanso - coincidentally, I played some of the highlights of/2/15/73 earlier this week. Incredible jamming. 2/19/73 from last night is no slouch either - monster bass
As for labelling yourself - people are rarely what they tell you they are. Everybody wears a mask. That's my pearl of wisdom for the day.

to DuaneFreak! Kidding, but it's good to realize that I must have (and continue to) rave about Duane enough for someone to remark on it. Still a few tapes in that closet, so to speak, from what I hear.

It would indeed be sweet to hear 6-10-73 from the Vault, tidied up and such. This June will be my 50th anniversary of missing 6-10-73 -- the one that got away. Time to bust it out!

I was hoping they bring the axe back,,,, but noooooo.

The damn things double in price also!!!

Ok, I bought! As Bugs Bunny would say,,,, what a maroon.

Now on to the Phishing question.....

My sister gave me all 4 Phish LP on LP. I have all(?) the "official" tour releases. I thought this would give me a digital copy of the LP's. Two of the 4 I have a digital copy, but 2 I don't. One is the sound check/ rehearsal from 5/26/11,,, they did a 29 minute "waves".

The second is a 30 minute ghost from 5/22/2000. They appeared to have done 2 shows at Radio City Music Hall that didn't make the "official" show release from that tour.

Does anyone out there have either the means of making a digital copy from the vinyl? (obviously you have to have the albums also :-) ) OR digital copies of the shows involved.

Thanks and sorry for the off message message. (again)

For audience recordings, you can go to the website phish.in and find just about every show they've played. But there is no way to download the material. In general, the only way to download live audience recordings is when they are first posted on a website like bt.etree.org.

As to soundboards, you really need to go through the official channel of livephish.com. For casual Phish listeners, I recommend downloading the app on your phone. There are always four or five shows being 'featured' every month and you can stream them all you like for free (if you purchase the subscription, you'll then have access to the entire catalog, which includes every show from 2003 to the present).

I personally don't have a turntable that can digitize the albums but hopefully someone out there will be able to help your out!

In some circles, people might think you were referring to Duane Eddy using that name. Possibly not on here.

Pink Floyd Announce Massive 'Dark Side of the Moon' 50th Anniversary Box Set

The 2CD/2LP/2-Blu-ray The Dark Side of the Moon 50th Anniversary deluxe box set — due out March 24, 2023, a half-century plus 23 days after the original album’s release date — pairs the remastered LP with the live album The Dark Side Of The Moon – Live At Wembley Empire Pool, London, 1974, featuring an unreleased Nov. 1974 performance of the album.

I always liked these Portland shows.. another year, another '77 release to start the year.

oh, the horror, no seaside chat for the rollout, Dave has taken refuge in his office due to bad weather. Taking a peek in his office, gotta admit I love the swag on the wall. Put a dark mustache on Dave and he's the next J. Johan Jameson in the next four spiderman movies.

One last comment.. with the decline of the CD and the rise of Vinyl, someone needs to create a CD player that looks and functions exactly like a mini-turntable so we can brink back the CD too. Just saying.. if they had one it would be cool to proudly spin GD discs on the mini, micro turntable of the future.

Ok, the Pink is ordered. Why I do this, I don't know.

I have the two other big boxes from them (early and later), so I have to have, right?

As my old man would have said, "if you're gonna be broke, you might as well be happy"

Dennis - There is something special about being a “Completist”. Your collection will rival the Library of Congress one day!

Jim - I did not renew for the DaP series this year, that international shipping rate is a ball breaker, but like you, I am in for this release, and TWO shows is something special, so I ordered it. Besides, 1977 Dead is kryptonite, just really special. Already my wife started with the “See, you should have just renewed. Now, you will buy them one by one etc etc”. You guys know where that conversation goes. (Shoulder shrug)

Don't know if anyone else is waiting on these bad boys. But they've been pushed back for over a year. I ordered all 3 and have been waiting. Recently I got an email from Experience vinyl saying 3 was ready for immediate shipping. I waited for mine to arrive and it hasn't. Called Experience today to ask about this. They holding my 3 until the other 2 are ready, I apparently asked for free shipping which meant send one package. Man at Experience was very nice, said he send 3 right away if I wanted. When I heard why it was waiting I said to just hold it. He said he felt semi confident about the April release date because 3 came in. He said the problem has been because of the dead organization, they will only allow the LP's to be pressed in America and there were only two they were allowing.

So if you've been waiting for these, this is the word I just got.

I found those two LP on LP cuts on utube.

I finally found some free software for downloading audio off the "tube" again. They killed the last one I had.

New one is called YTMP3. I was able to scrap the audio off the video with this.

Daverock, just remember never to play cards with anyone named "Duwayne." If he wins he takes all your money. If he loses, he's likely to have a shiv or piece on him... You'll recognize him because his girlfriend has a beehive hairdo and too much makeup, torn jeans and high heels. A species found only in America (I hope)...

BEWARE!

HF - "Duwayne" sounds a bit of a nuisance, but she seems alright. While he was playing cards, I'd steal his mistress from under his nose. Well, I would if I was 40 years younger.
They really are making a killing, these bands with their umpteenth releases of old albums. I still get some.. I nearly bought the remastered Bowie album "The Man Who Sold The World" recently. Now called "The Metrabolist" or something - but the same old album I have bought several times in the past. Last re-released in 2015. I've got a few copies of Let It Bleed knocking about, too.

I cannot listen to DSOTM even one more time. Rererereleasing it.. not for me.
Not that you asked...

4 4 69 is my current GD show

Back to it, PF.

Killer Death Don't Have no Mercy! 4/4,5,& 6/ 69 should be released as a box set.

The earlier Pink Floyd albums have stood the test of time better for me. I enjoyed them more at the time, too, for that matter.
That Avalon 1969 box set suggested by Billy sounds good, though. Move over rover, and let Billy take over.

I've been chomping on the bit for that release to come to fruition since an article in the Allman Brothers fanzine "Hittin' The Note" from back in the 90s had an interview between tour mystic Kirk West and Dick Latvala discussing plans to release the Allman/Dead RFK shows 73 shows. That would make a glorious set.

....guess I'm done ordering those. What a joke.

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Curious about the live November 1974 DSOTM performance as the Experience Edition of Dark Side of the Moon that was released in 2011 also included a live performance of DSOTM from November 1974 at the Empire Pool, Wembley, London. The release did not specify the date of the November 1974 show, but it was good stuff. The Experience Edition of Wish You Were Here also included some cool stuff on the bonus disc, including Shine on You Crazy Diamond, Raving and Drooling, and You've Got to Be Crazy all live at Wembley, November 1974, and a cool version of Wish You Were Here with Stephane Grappelli on violin.

Looking forward to DaP 45, pretty cool that they included a fourth disc to give us both full shows.

RIP
David Crosby

I saw him open for the Grateful Dead on New Years Eve once, he told a story about making mattresses when he was in jail.

I'm very sad to hear about David's passing. He was a one of our locals, and I 'd see him at a lot of shows and got to know him a little. Just next month he was planning a show here at the Lobero Theater. My friend, Chris Stills, was going to play in his band at this show. I just hope this show somehow gets transformed into a really great Santa Barbara sendoff for this great folk/rock innovator. Fare thee well, David.

Saw him a number of times, solo and with…
Just watched his most recently released video over the Christmas holiday (Live At The Capital Theatre), and will consider “If I Could Only Remember My Name” as a desert island disc. A great supporter of the Dead. He had that quote from years ago that still makes me laugh:
“ I don’t know what it is, man. Like, they’re magic. Something happens when the Dead get it on that don’t happen when Percy Faith gets it on.”
RIP Croz

We were huge Floyd fans, starting in 1970, before we eventually morphed into Deadheads. Still listen to DSOTM, WYWH, and live early stuff. Not for everybody, that's for sure...............

I would hazard a guess and say that the November 74 Wembley that will go with the "new" Dark Side will be the November 16 show, which was broadacast on the BBC and widely bootlegged, but I could be wrong............

Rock on,

Doc
Digging for gold in the hoe in my hand
Hoping they'll take a look at the way things stand
And you're leading me down to the place by the sea
I hear your soft voice calling to me
Making a date for later by phone
if you're alone I'll come home

Saw him many times with S and N. However, the most memorable was 1986 New Year’s when he opened up for the Dead. Very sad day. RIP.

An FYI from Dave’s chat:
The first 2 songs from 10/1/77 are from an AUD source (Bob Menke).
By the 3rd song Betty had fixed the problem, but the first 2 songs weren’t releasable.

Another tidbit of info from Dave (something I didn’t know) was that Betty used noise reduction for Spring ‘77 but didn’t use it in the Fall.

Well shit. . . WELL DONE DAVID!
You had your ups and downs, but you kept learning and kept inspiring.
Thanks.

From Live For Live Music:

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Back on February 27th, 1973, EMI Records convened a press conference to announce The Dark Side of the Moon. In order to deliver the full effect of the transformative album, the conference was held at the London Planetarium with the music broadcast beneath a sea of stars. The album became a staple of laser rock shows throughout the following decades, and to celebrate this latest milestone Pink Floyd has curated an official dome experience pairing 42 minutes of The Dark Side of the Moon with visuals of the solar system and beyond. The experience will arrive in planetariums around the world in March
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He cool

I _did_ cut my hair...

Fuck Florida

10/1/77
Promised Land, They Love Each Other, Mexicali Blues, Dire Wolf, Cassidy, Deal, Passenger, Tennessee Jed, Minglewood Blues, Peggy-O, The Music Never Stopped Bertha-> Good Lovin', It Must Have Been The Roses, Estimated Prophet-> Eyes Of The World-> Dancin' In The Streets-> Drums-> Not Fade Away-> Black Peter-> Around & Around

10/2/77
Casey Jones, Jack Straw, Sunrise, Brown Eyed Women, El Paso, Dupree's Diamond Blues, Let It Grow, Deal Samson & Delilah-> Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain, Finiculi Finicula, Playin' In The Band-> Drums-> The Wheel-> Truckin'-> The Other One-> Wharf Rat-> Sugar Magnolia, E: Johnny B. Goode

Would love to do that, have seen them advertised for decades, have never gone. I saw the 300 damn dollar box they're offering, and I will definitely pass. Hopefully the Atmos Mix will be available on SACD or BluRay, but having the Immersion Box ought to be enough. Disappointed in the choice of a 1974 show to release as well. I have a bunch of Floyd boots, and while agree with most of the comments on the less than stellar sound quality on most of the tapes, I have some that are pretty decent. At least as good as the most recent Duane-era ABB releases. I guess the Immersion set got all the outtakes? Seems unlikely, since they have the footage of Gilmour recording an Eclipse solo and laughing, and interviews where he says he did a take of On the Run, then Waters came in and did another, admittedly better, take that was used. Also, they were doing Dark Side differently across tours in 1972 before they finalized the sequence. This seems way overpriced for what's there. The books are the most intriguing to me. But I wanna do the laser light show. I was once at a party where they put on Dark Side and Wizard of Oz, nothing special. The use of Echoes as a soundtrack to Jupiter and the Infinite Beyond scene in 2001, on the other hand, is awesome, and fully available with searches.

All that said, I wonder if they will do a box set of the Middle Years with all the outtake material I seek. Doubt it given the Animals release has no extra material at all, which is a shame, love that album.

And fare thee well to Crosby. He was a major figure in rock history, and in Dead history. Fantastic singer, songwriter. The good Doctor wrote this about Oscar Acosta (Dr Gonzo), but it applies to Croz: "He was God's own prototype. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, too rare to die."

Crosby RIP? And at the tender age of 81? Crap.. None of us are safe, the next thing you know Keith Richards will be in the news....

On a serious note, love him or hate him, he was one of the major talents in our tapestry. He could play, yes and quite well.. but he had one of the most amazing voices in rock and roll history, plus he had a great state presence, sense of timing and well.. he was a rock and roll superhero. If not, he would have been gone at like 27. If it wasn't for his ego and occasional freak outishness.. he might very well be canonized.

RIP David Crosby. You were really one of the great ones and will be missed.

Sorry for the typos.. let's just agree they were intentional.

....what did Florida do now? Probably something dumb.

Clearly related to catalytic converter thefts and/or Porn star incarcerations and ill faith attorney efforts. (per my magic 8 ball)