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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Oroborous
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    That’s all I ment.
    Everyone’s made good points, and there’s no easy answer.
    I was going for a conversation starter more than just to editorialize.
    Like most things, no easy answers.
    It’s just now that I’m all addicted to this collecting nonsense, I need as many RJ shows as they’ll give us, and I’m afraid things are going to start slowing down, and eventually it won’t be worth it to them, and so many great shows will never get fixed up and released. And don’t you worry 1stshow ole buddy, there’s still plenty of RJ shows in the vault.
    As a rabid nut trying to tag as many of em as I can before I croak, I’m here to tell ya there’s plenty of gold left in them there hills! Yes many are cassette, but the gang has been getting better and better every year at fixing em up!
    And, there’s still lots of DATs and still a decent amount of killer multitracks, all just rotting in the vault!

    I totally get what yer saying, but think of it this way: suppose the summer 78 box was never released and only a couple others from that year. If they came out and said “this is your one chance to get the 20 best of 78”, including those shows in the July box, would you not find some way to get it? For sure, not everyone is going to want all of em, but I think you’d be able to scrape up at least 10k folks who would want at least one or 2?
    Really they should be digitizing them all, or at least the top 20 or 30 from each year that haven’t been released, and have a system where they announce a certain number, or block at a time, and do pre orders, to have inventory control.
    Some shows might sell big, some not so much. Perhaps have a rule that shows that don’t meet a certain threshold won’t get released?
    I guess the solution would involve somehow having a cost effective way to prep them, but pre order so you don’t always have to have such big sales numbers for every show? Perhaps DL like you say, but that hasn’t worked so well, so far anyway…
    Again, no easy answers, and I totally understand other pov. I just would hate to see so much good music not get the treatment it deserves. And yeah, the archive is awesome, but there’s nothing like getting a great show that’s been fully fixed/Normaned!

    Hey DV, where ya been hiding? Good to see ya, and sorry, I won’t mention you know who. It has got to be really tough being a fan. It’d be one thing if they just stunk, but they have potential, if only they could stop beating themselves.
    A well, it’s early still…

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    Would love to see more shows released. My preference is still CDs.
    It would be interesting to know what the terms of the contract are with Rhino? Are they able to release as much as they want or are there limits?
    Do they even have the ability to release more per year then they currently are? Is Jeffrey Norman able to mix and master much more than he is now. He might need help. Maybe you could assist OB?

    There are some shows they already mixed and mastered that could be released on CD. For example, the two shows from the first Road Trips that they released as digital downloads, 11/5 and 11/6 1979. Also, the shows from the download series.
    Would also be interested in more video. Why not release the shows from the MUATM. They did this with the 91 show in the Giants stadium box, but would love to see the others released at some point. The 91 Chicago show was really good.

    Okay, seems others are talking about 1988 for #48. We will see next month.

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    I'm a dinosaur as Oro describes it and know zero about streaming and how younger folks get their music, movies, and TV but I'm guessing the Dinos are the ones buying hard copy CDs. My question is, if the '80s and '90s scene was populated by more younger concertgoers in huge stadiums in numbers way beyond the earlier shows shouldn't there be a demand for those shows in a format they like? I'd bet lots of folks will buy a show they attended. Mickey's model may fit that some day. That said, I'm ignoring the fact that some earlier shows had attendance in the 100,000+ range (Englishtown?) but there were just a few of those. I know Dave said that the last increase to 25,000 copies per release would be the last increase and maybe that's the limit for profitability for hard copy. I'm guessing the download option would be more profitable regardless of sales numbers (if they could ever get the damn things to work!) as all you need is a bank of servers and a few tech savvy people to run it. Large box offerings could be done as a pick and choose your favorite with quantity discounts for more shows. I know I won't be buying twenty shows from individual years I don't like as much and there is likely some truth in the theory that a good portion of "the good stuff" has already been released. Seems like, as with many things, tech is going to have to save us in this dilemma. Affordability is key either way. I can't afford $500 boxes even if I like the offering. It's as simple as that. So Mickey, let's get digitizing! Us Dinos will just have to figure out how to download and stream.
    Cheers
    Oh, and the price of the downloads needs to come down. Currently makes no sense if the price is almost the same just without the shipping. No incentive to be green.

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    Y’all are missing the point…

    I’m not talking about preferences, if I was, I’d be down with Conekids idea.
    I’m talking about the reality of only a somewhat limited number of boxes getting released.
    Their not going to do this forever!!!
    For example, say they only releases 8 or 10 more years at one box a year.
    With 3 show mini boxes that’s only 30 more shows. Plus say 40 more Dave’s. (4x10).
    There’s still way more than 70 great shows in that vault…
    My plan,
    25 for primal 67-70
    15 for 71
    20 for 72
    20 for 73 (at least!
    ? 74 might just be mostly scraps
    20? for 76? Maybe
    77 is already over represented so he can spit the last few out on DaP
    20 for 78
    20 for 79 and 80
    20 for 81 & 82
    20 for 83 & 84
    20 for 85 & 86
    20 for 87 & 88
    20 for 89 including fall tour (alpine should be a stand alone
    90 not sure you’d need to do 20 as it’s already fairly represented?
    20 for 91 & 92
    20 for 93-95
    These plus DaP and special separates and one might say we’ve received most of the best!
    Take pre orders plus run an extra 10% so your not stuck with inventory but have a few for Johnny come latelies…
    You could still make them “limited”…
    Release 2 a year, everybody wins cept maybe the finicky heads who probably won’t buy much more anyway…

    Voila, all hardcore heads gets represented,

    And remember when Mickey made his bold pronouncement about making all shows available (about the same time he said Phil must have got the liver of a jerk) .
    But I’m sure things won’t change, sales eventually will make cost prohibitive and the vault will go to waste, but hey at least we will have most of 77…and four versions of October 74…
    Think about the cruel reality of only 3 to 5 shows a year for only 8 more years….the horror!
    Tic toc…

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    Yes, next year hopefully - vinyl too. Bit of leisure wear to listen to it in. Nice.

    Mini boxes score where you might not want 17 shows or whatever. I wouldn't mind a few shows from Europe 1990, having attended the London ones - but I'm not sure I would want the whole lot !

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    Winterland Oct 74 Box, and we need more releases Dave/Rhino

    Hopefully it’s moving into production soon so that we get it for the 50th anniversary next year.
    With all the video included.

    I’ll take mini-Boxes.
    3-show mini-Boxes, released once every other month, and not during a month where a DaP is released. Thus, the DaP’s and mini-Boxes would give us a release 10 months out of the year. The other 2 months would be RSD and Black Friday RSD.
    Sounds like a grate plan to me.

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    Agree..

    Can anyone tell me why we did not get a Winterland '74 Box Set? The box design would, of course, been a mini Wall of Sound.

    Wars have been fought for less.

    Oh, the horror.

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    Would you like yours in a mini or mega? 1972, 1977, 1978 still ripe for the picking. Added together that equals mega I'd say. Taken alone some fine mini ones there. I think there's a New Year's 1971 available yet to add...

    P.S. Currently spinning the space jam from 10-18-1978

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    Stuck in the mud…

    Made through 5/4 and sorta first run of 5/7 (on crappy device while working) But got bogged down this week with mucho fuckery and distractions so lost my pace and mojo, hoping I can catch up this WE…
    ONWARD!

    NO MORE MINI BOXES!
    Every piddly little release is one less possible future box! Like most things there’s only so many, nothing lasts as the pranksters say…
    We’re running outta time so we need huge boxes with the best remaining 20 shows from each year.
    Perhaps more from years they’ve been stingy or ignored.
    This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no foolin around…
    Seriously, sales are flat, saturation for some has set in, old heads don’t want any newer stuff and/or are dying off etc, yeah, this could all go away sooner than later. We need to demand more output for the faithful, and stop worrying about the picky folks who only buy limited things. I totally understand not buying things you won’t use, but if we don’t support these releases, eventually, they’ll just stop!!
    They need to quit dicking around, otherwise,…..Smithers, release the hounds, it’s time to quit screwing around and storm the vault! Where the hell is Keithfan anyway? Thought he was getting close? Hear sound of foot tapping…AND,
    Hey Mickey, what happened to “everything’s going to get digitized and you’ll be able to order almost any show” (paraphrasing).

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    Maybe they could do that with vinyl releases, like they did with The Lyceum shows. Although I get the impression it didn't sell particularly well.
    I tend to segment them myself, when I listen to them, although I'm glad the cds were released in that mammoth box. I listen to most of them every year - but I couldn't do it consecutively, one show another in one chunk. I take all year about it - then come Spring in the following year...start again.

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Sorry I'm late... so something off the beaten path but it's not quite what I thought it would be.
05/28/76 Club Front.

They played the Attics of My Life on Satellite radio last week and it left me scratching my head as I thought they dropped it in '72 and didn't return until the Warlock shows in '89.

The weird thing is the Attics is not on the Archive, but it's you YouTube. It's a real, nice, boucy version with a Reggae beat holding it up. Check it out, the rehearsal is very interesting too.

So it's a light day, you could fit this in in the time it takes to clean up after dinner.

Sorry I didn't get to this earlier, I was late out of the gate and just got home now. The Attics is worth it though.

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Okay Jim. Club Front 76 it is. I will give it a go tomorrow.

Still crying in our beer out here.

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Thanks Jim - listening now. I found 2 sources on relisten and the second one is significantly longer, with more takes, including Attics. The Attics has got a reggae groove to my ear. It's really nice.

Been checking in daily but listening has been sort of scatter shot, both in terms of POTD and in general. Did check out the 1/10/70 - that a solid shot of music from that time frame. Like Jim says - where is Set II (if there was one)? Among recent listens were Jai Alai '74 (good god!), Dillon Stadium '74 (DaP 2), Chicago Auditorium 10/71 (DaP 3) DeKalb 10/29/77 (DAP 33 - always a wowza!) and various Eberhard Weber albums (non-dead).

Stay safe and healthy everyone.

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Some interesting rehearsal sessions here Jim. They were ready to get back into it, you can feel it.

Sound quality of the recording was good.

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Hope it was ok and not a derailment.

I just really liked that Attics.

I would like to revisit the 76 box at some point. That and the Giants box to me are under-rated. The St. Louis box on the other hand is not under-rated, more like worthy. I'd love to see the rest of the BCT '72 shows get box treatment, the same goes for Texas '72. Or how about a T For Texas box? Or we could simply call it Timbuktu.

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Hey rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day Trifecta, Volume 2:

Three separate highways intersect at a place no reasonable person would ever want to go….

January 17, 1968 Carousel Ballroom, San Francisco. Starting as the El Patio Ballroom, eventually to morph into the Fillmore West, a “social/musical laboratory experiment" ostensibly run as a collective by several San Fran bands. The six month run was opened by the Dead with a blast of wonderful primal psychedelia, including, apparently, the first live version of China Cat Sunflower. Very good recordings circulate, give it a listen!

January 17, 1969 Civic Auditorium, Santa Barbara, California. Short on paper, long on music. Big jams and a little bit of grease. Short nice Star, driven Eleven, raucous Other One. And while the Hartbeats might have done it a couple of times previously, this appears to be the first “full Grateful Dead” version of Cosmic Charlie. Typical early 1969 gooey goodness!!

January 17, 1970 OSU, Corvallis, Oregon. An overlooked and underappreciated show. The band starts out with a more song-oriented approach, showcasing some Workingman’s material, before closing out with the “typical big jam sequence” Star/Saint/Eleven/Light. This probably doesn’t require a lot of explanation………..

The recordings of each show have some sonic issues, cuts and edits seemingly common for many audio artifacts of this era. Perhaps the banana boxes contain “new & improved” copies????

Rock on!!!

Doc
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Thank you Doc for these reviews and keeping us excited listening to new shows that we may never have heard otherwise. Always a pleasure!

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Woke up about 1 am and decided to do some writing on a project. Saw Doc's post and spun 1/17/68. It was just exactly perfect. Awesome stuff. The tone on Bob's guitar very cool. Thanks Doc!

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Timbuktu Box sounds like a winner to me.

Let's go!

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But it ain't new yawk either. continuing my interest in the late days of the Godchaux era how about 1/15/79, Springfield, MA? Listened to Set II yesterday and mother of goodness it was awesomely great. The Playing > Drumz > Jam sequence is crazy town. There is a good Miller SBD (not a given for that era) but reading some reviews the Steve Rolfe FOB audience (Miller transfer) is a legendary pull. I put it on for the beginning of Shakedown and in the pocket sweet spot FOB. Cued up Rolfe for Set I this morning.

spoiler - there is no Minglewood but there is a Jack-A-Roe

Enjoy the day folks.
Onward!!

edit - Personally I'd probably run with the Miller sbd overall. There's a matrix to maybe split the difference. This is a great show.

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1/15/79 Springfield sounds good to me Bluecrow. Thanks.

I can't believe #45 isn't sold out yet.

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That’s off of Dave’s list…
I’ll try to find time this WE.
Still stuck in deadline hell with no tunes or time : (

45 not sold out: I can believe it lol

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Great show Bluecrow, I enjoyed it. Yes I listened to the matrix. Agree, the Playing was the highlight of the show for me as well BC. I like that reprise into Casey Jones. Great sequence. Close it out with a good JBG.

The Shakedown was good as well as the Stagger Lee Passenger.

Recording was good. Good to hear this show is on Dave's list OB. Oh and go Bills!

I think I will revisit 10/18/72 from the LTTR Box next.

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I got the new Hunter’s Trix a few weeks ago and it sounded pretty good.
I think that there are a few fans of that show hanging out at POTD.

hunterstrix
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Conekid. I checked this out.
What is this site?

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Ca. 1997, back in the day when each edition of the GD Almanac was snail mailed to my rural PO, Grateful Dead Records released Another Stoney Evening, a beautifully played and recorded Crosby-Nash concert from 1971. Visiting that tonight.

Liner notes were by Steve Silberman, one of Croz' closest friends. I mentioned last year or so that Steve had a great podcast series talking with Croz called Freak Flag Flying. Check it out if you haven't already.

RIP David Crosby.

Funny to hear that 1-15-79 is on Dave's list cause that seems like a lost era in terms of board tapes. A ripping show. Get yourself the comfy chair Oro. Was listening to parts of it again this evening. As I was saying that Playing > Drumz > Jam is crazy town. 10-17-72 sounds real good DV, sometime in the next day or 3.

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Google it.

Clearly a Pigpen fan.

Welcome back Bolo.

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That is all.

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(Again.) I was having trouble figuring out what to play to honor David Crosby and had more or less decided on the 4 Way Street LP but you reminded me of Another Stoney Evening - GDCD 4057 (1997 release) which fits the bill perfectly. More harmonies and 1971 goodness!
Cheers
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Sucked to be Toadzilla. Even as an extraordinary specimen, being a non-native, invasive, destructive species earns you a one way ticket to toad afterlife in a museum collection. Tender-hearted-me sort of cringed knowing that was gonna happen, even before I read the whole thing, but you got to kill them just like the Burmese pythons run rampant in the Everglades.

Another Stoney Evening sure was a fine release 1stShow. It was Bolo and his comment about Croz' harmonies with Nash that immediately pointed me there. Me thinks you can still catch a buzz from Croz' "Lebanese Flu" just listening to it. Very intimate recording.

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That site lists all the matrix shows in the Hunter’s Trix series.
All are available for download as torrents.
In the menu, click on ‘etree uploads’. Get the torrent l-i-n-k from that site and put them in a torrent browser which will get the shows and save them on your hard drive as FLAC.

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Thanks Conekid. Interesting site.

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. . . check out the first Crosby-Nash album to be released in 1972, the self-titled, "David Crosby & Graham Nash". (Jerry, Phil and Billy contribute.) Check out "Where Will I Be?" including tuned glasses.

For sheer otherworldly, hair-raising beauty, Crosby's first solo album, "If I Could Only Remember My Name", never fails to bring goose-bumps and usually a tear or two. The magic that swirled around Wally Heider's studio in 1970 & 71 with its host of SF musicians still shines brightly. The 50th Anniversary release of IICORMN includes a second CD of demos, alternates and early takes. Breathe deeply. . .

*** Blue Crow's right, Lebanese Flu is highly contagious. . . and that's a good thing.

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Do the shops sell anything like that now?
Never seen any around here in CO.
Can't see why not. Same source material.
Maybe too labor intensive?
Have a good weekend!
Cheers

If you haven’t taken full advantage of what’s available, it’s highly recommended that you do.
Takes minimal effort to pack a hard drive with FLAC files.
If you have an old computer that isn’t used anymore set that up to run the torrent client (I use utorrent -dot- com).
Go to etree from the menu on the hunterstrix page, click on 12-1-79, then click on and save this to your computer:

gd79-12-01.mtx.seamons.ht156.161627. flac16. torrent
(spaces added)

Then take that torrent file and drag it into the utorrent (or another torrent client) window. Sit back and wait for the files to arrive.

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Looking at 9/1/79 from Holleder in NY for today. Did you ever make it to this venue OB?
Recording starts out a little rough but evens out mid way through Half Step.

Finished 10/18/72 yesterday. I think my third listen. Great show. Appears to be a lot of distortion on this one. Might be on my end. Has anyone else noticed this?

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Hey rockers!!

Picks Of The Day: Eagles Auditorium, Seattle January 22 & 23 1968

Of all forms of caution, caution in love is perhaps the most fatal to true happiness….

Caution? Did somebody say caution??!! Friends, throw your caution to the wind, and believe!! Believe that there is enough 1968 in the vault to release a 68 box. Yes some are mere fragments, but sometimes even fragments burn bright!!

January 22: Folks, it’s all there! Starts with a cool, greasy, jammy Alligator followed by a long, seamless jam sequence that takes us through to the end of the show. Other One, New Potato, Cross Eyed, Spanish jam, Dark Star (in its early, short version), an early China Cat, Eleven, Caution. Need I say more???

January 23: This appears to be a fragment, but includes a short, crunchy CE/TOO/CE flowing into the rare Clementine, New Potato, Born Cross Eyed, and another Spanish jam (sadly, cut).

Go primal!!!!

Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric…..

Rock on!!

Doc
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Y’all told us NOT to lick the Toad so of course I did and phew, seemed to have lost a couple daze…

Then it took me awhile to clean off the Gray Matter from where Daverocks head exploded after hearing about the big HW box ; )

Ok, 1/15/79: overall, at least at first, I felt slightly underwhelmed at times? Good show, but not top shelf? So of course Dave will pick it lol. It’s hard to describe, like their playing ok, but tired, burnt..? or maybe I’m just projecting knowing what the outcome is? Perhaps I’m being overly critical, or perhaps like HF and his first, I’m extremely biased and would like to see a four disc Beauty of 1/10 and 1/20/79 and imagine instead only 1/15 getting released from that stretch, though 2/17/79 is great too!
I imagine and would love a nice sandwich with NYE 78 and 2/27/79 surrounding a 1/10 and 1/20 middle, but at this point I’m starting to give up on getting anything I want…sighhhh.
BUT…BUT, that Playing suite surely was a treat, especially that drum jam weirdness, PROPER!
Admittedly I was doing chores during the first so I’m probably generalizing? But the first part of the second seemed to step it up, and then from Playing onward was a perfect lay back and groove stress melting slice of goodness that was sorely needed! Good call BC!
Hit 1/17/68 for extra credit. Another fine, fairly tight outing with a mostly good recording cept a few distorty parts, probably old tape as Jimmy mentions? Always like the early alternate lyrics of most songs including TOO here, (and Sailor/Saint from 9/1/79).
1/17/69 I have dug before, probably via doc lol. 1/17/70 is on the list…

Hollander Stadium, funny you mention DV.
I had my cherry popped earlier that year so was truly itching to go. I could have gone with my older DH friends but being “only” sixteen the rents weren’t about to let me go “all the way to Rochester!” with a bunch of hairy freaks, especially after a bogus drug bust landed some of them in the local paper lol.
My poor mother rip, was terrified of all the R&R shenanigans, especially after she heard somewhere that “someone could stick you with a needle and drugs against your will and you won’t even know it until it’s too late” lol poor mom!
Like, if someone’s got drugs they ain’t wasting it on my teenybopper ass lol.
So unfortunately I’d have to wait until 11/9/79 for number 2.
But I heard about it from my friends and they seemed kinda non plussed. The big news was how the promoter or the band? The Good Rats tossed rubber Rats out in the crowd who being unruly Deadheads from Deep Elem, promptly began pelting the band with the toy Rats lol. Literally booed them off the stage.
Considered by many to be the poorest choice of an opening act in Dead history!
I still chuckle thinking about poor Joan Jet opening for Bobby and the Midnights at a theatre in Crotchfester.
So I finally listened to this one in the recent past and enjoyed it, though I wouldn’t call it top shelf.
Hope you dug it DV as you continue your 79 odyssey!

Go Bills, though I if they continue with their recent fuckery their going down.
Last week was pathetic and I felt bad for vguy having to lose in such a way, but no offense the Bungals ain’t the Fish and if we play like the last couple weeks it’ll be over!
Kinda like the way the VIKS went down : ( oh well, it’s ment to be entertainment, and this year it surely was for both teams!
EDIT: oh we’ll touch of Gray…but it’s alright
Upshot, we can listen to Dead shows on Sunday now instead of waisting time on fut ball!

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Sorry about the Bills OB, we were pulling for them at my house.

The good rats, that is a crazy story. Seemed like a lot going on that night and I love this show.

Here is a change of pace for you, 3/30/87 from the good old spectrum in Philly.

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Mornin’ rockers, let’s rock!!

Pick Of The Day: Seattle Center Arena, January 24 1971

Care for a side order of Ian & Sylvia to go with your crunchy main course of hard rockin’ Grateful Dead??? All marrow, no gristle……….

In January 1971 the Dead made a short excursion through the Pacific Northwest, four shows were scheduled, one was cancelled, and one rarely hears about any of this. Sonically speaking, the Davis and Eugene shows are not well preserved. That leaves Seattle as the best currently circulating surviving document from this month.

And what a document it is!! It appears to be one long set. The Dead start off high with Truckin’, and they don’t throttle down. There’s a China/Rider for me, a Cumberland for JimInMD, and enough grease to keep HendrixFreak happy. Hope you’re doing well, my friend, but be careful---this might give you palpitations!!!

In a way, this might even be considered historic, the last glimpse of the band before the seismic changes that would begin the following month in Port Chester and play out through the remainder of the year. And if you believe, as I do, that first and foremost the Grateful Dead were a rock and roll band, then you will probably enjoy this!!

We are never further from what we wish than when we believe that we have what we wished for…..

Rock on!!!

Doc
Passions are vices or virtues to their highest powers…..

That is a fun, energetic, Spring '87 show DV. New to me. Very enjoyable listen. Rocking Shakedown to start - reminded me of a favorite from 7/6 that summer. I saw the first 2 shows at the UIC Pavilion Chicago end of that spring tour. Only non-east coast shows and sort of overlooked cause of that. A joyous time - to have Jerry still with us, healthy and happy and ripping it up! Good to have those fairly recent Charlie Miller ultramatrix transfers for this tour.

Looks like there is some NW '71 coming into view on the horizon.

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Fine set of music. Nice sounding board. Pig clearly didn't have it all out of his system after Lovelight (neither did the band) and that launch into Good Loving is great. Awesome grunge version.

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Glad you liked it Bluecrow. My first listen as well. Good show. Recording is good, not mind blowing. Shakedown openers always bring a smile, good Stagger Lee, Box of Rain, Iko Iko, SOC into He's Gone, very enjoyable.
You get a nice Truckin, Other One, Wharf Rat. Close it out with It's All over now. Baby blue. Worth a listen for sure.

Did you get a chance to listen to 10/18/72? Interested in your feedback on the sound.

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Hmmm, I was there.
I’ve heard this …within the last couple years?
But I should give it another go, cept I got, got, got no time!
If this is the show I’m thinking of, there’s an unbelievable story, but not now…
I gotta git down….

Maybe this WE, though I might need something stronger lol
Onward!

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I'm currently tuned in, even though I am also currently working my way through DaP 36 in the car. '87 energy does it for me most times...

1/24/71 has long been on my high list. So, it was fun to tune into that PigPen-fest again.

Keep the hits coming and as always Stay Grateful :-)' :-)' :-)'

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First, I did not make the Spectrum that year and I cannot for the life of me remember why. Pre GPS, much like Washington DC, I was not a fan of Philly driving.. but I should have been at this one. Perhaps I had a test or midterm or something. My memories have faded.

So 1987.. I'm sure I wrote of this before but Wilfred T's post reminded me. I do like DaP 36, an UltraMatrix to the exteme, it's basically a Matrix, and a decent one. I have a love hate relationship with 1987. I think I saw more shows in 87 than any other year. I was a Junior in college, gas was like a dollar five cents a gallon and I had recently bought a used corolla (which cost pennies to drive and almost never broke down).

So I caught a bunch of shows, but man.. the recordings, although they do capture the energy, really..unless you are in the mood for an audience tape, are.. well...

Trying not to be negative, but of all the UltraMatrix years, 87 for the most part (9/18/87 and a few others omitted) sound more like audience tapes than soundboards.

I apologize for this review, but for a high year for me the tapes seem to mismatch my experiences more than other year. I consider this (and some other ultramix years) a lost opportunity of sorts.

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Anyone want to join me in hitting 3-21-94 Richfield? I don't know if we've visited it before, but I remember it having a good and interesting Stella Blue. Yes, I know it's 1994 so it's likely spotty in places, but it might be an interesting change of pace. It looks like there is a new Miller transfer on the archive, too.

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Hey WTJ, if it is a Dead show, I am willing to give it a go. Thanks.

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This is a good one, Moses comes riding up on a Quasar, to start the first set, then A Bertha, a real pretty Peggy--O, a nice West LA Fadeaway, and ends with a TN Jed. And that's just the first set. The second set is nothing but gooey goodness dished up by Jerry and Company. The He's Gone>Jam>Drums>Space TOYL> Stella Blue >TOYL. A great Liberty encore. A great pick, enjoy.

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Ok, they let me out for my daily hour of yard time, so…
Hitting 2/19/73. Only 2nd set available but short works for me currently.
Into Truckin, so far so good. Not the best recording but not too shabby either.
I believe both Dick and Doc highlighted this show.

Will probably look at 1/24/71 per recommendation, and since it’s one of only about a dozen I didn’t catch back in 21 when I did the Pepsi challenge!

Will hit 3/21/94 when time permits! How bout some 93 ideas, not necessarily for right now but for later when things hopefully gain some normalcy?

3/30/87 I’d like to check again, just not sure I’ll have time, especially for more groovy picks lol.

DV, who we rooting for tomorrow?
I’m going with 49ers with the GD connection, and how can you not root for the kid who gets picked last!
Unfortunately, I’m not sure anyone can stop the Eagles.

Rootin for the Bungals in the AFC. A) I think their a better team though the Chefs looked more consistent last week than the last time I saw them, B) the ankle: as one who’s broke and/our sprained badly both ankles several times, it will be interesting to see how/if that is a factor? Guess it depends on if he gets shot up so He’d be able to put weight on to throw, but you have to think it will at least have some effect on his running game?
And C) nothing personal to Chefs fans or even pretty boy Patty, but I don’t like the way the league “massages” things for him like they have for Tommy. Or maybe it’s just the verbal diarrhea ad nausea ala Collingsworth et el, but I’m getting sick of the never ending hyperbole…I mean there are 32 NFL teams a whole lotta great QBs, why do they have to over hype one or two to the point fans get put off?

Hopefully they’ll be good games!

Yep, this 2/19/73 is hitting the spot!
Ok, yard times up…

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That's a Blue Crow special! Loved it for years. It's been here on POTD. It's a Nudie Suit show, with excellent pro photos out there. I keep hoping the missing reels have secretly been returned and Dave's going to spring it on us like he did 2/2/70.

Most recently been listening to October'72 from the FoxBox after DV's suggestion.

I hear you Jim regarding '87 with Healy ultramatrix boards often being more than a bit heavy on the audience. I still enjoy them though, I have the energy from that spring/summer imprinted on my DNA so to speak. The ultramtrix for 4/9 UIC is an upgrade for what was circulating earlier. I think you were at RedRocks and couple of weeks ago I got an '87 Black Muddy River hankering and listened to a good part of 8/11 first night. I was 2nd row center for that one and (to my aging brain) the Miller straight SBD was pretty darn close to how I remember the sound that night. And Park City kicks it.

'94 you say WTJ? - Sure I can do that. I saw some good shows in Seattle & Eugene that year.

Got my shipping notice last night for Dave's 45. Donkey mail should have it here next week.

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Hope you’ve mended up well and are fully able to explore etc!
Sorry about not realizing we’ve hit 2/19/73 per your pick.
Duly noted now and fully dug by moi. Yep, wonder what that first set sounds like?
Looking forward to checking out more unheard 73 this year.

1/24/71: nice short sweet one! Fully dug.
Last third a virtual Pork Roast!!
Recording good cept for occasional distortion, levels or tape condition?

Hoping 3/21/94 next/soon…

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Pretty much mended from the surgery, Oro, thanks. Glad I got it taken care of and other than occasional soreness at the end of the day along the inguinal incision scar all good and fine to hike and scramble out and about.

It surprised me that you didn't have 2/19 on your radar given that you are the primary record keeper after GOGD went radio silent. It's a favorite sequence of mine. I'm a total sucker for those He'sGone/Trucking/Other One jams from those days. Eyes 3rd time played, way jammed out and into China Doll. Perfection. They broke out the Nudie suits for Set I. I think this has to be one of the last shows, if not the last one, where there is no complete set list known. New Riders opened I think. Love to hear it whole. Also, even what we got is missing a chunk at the end of Other One, could be 1/2 a minute, could be 10. Hometown show, though I was still a wee lad at the time and didn't even know who the dead were probably. It's possible that one of my fellow 7th/8th graders went. Many years later a hometown deadhead friend and were i were late night reminiscing about our school days and going over the class photo poster, and while basically everybody is in their sport coats and dresses, one was very much not and we're like "Holy crap, Dan's wearing a Dead shirt??!!" Either a Skull and Roses tee, or maybe a Europe Cone Kid or the Rainbow Foot. '73 or '74. Maybe he was at McGaw Hall later that year. We were totally flabbergasted. Radical move back then for picture day. He was clearly a true fan - heck he might have even gotten on the bus at this show - as a few years ago l learned that he owned Wolf and later donated the proceeds of its sale to the SPLC.

As a somewhat random 3 am aside along lines of gaps in tapes, the DiP18 Eyes from 2/3/78 (my first) is missing about 50 seconds of beautiful Jerry soloing. They did a pretty good job of hiding the splice. Over the years I've seen maybe one person comment on it - they detected the slight tone shift at the splice and were wondering what might be up. You can hear the whole solo on the audience tape (which is a pretty good tape for the era by the way.)

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He's Gone/Trucking/Other Ones (though not necessarily in that order) I been listening to the FoxBox '72 and that Disc 3, Night 3, 10/19 is freaking ridiculous. Phil's entry into the Other One??!! Madness I say! Madness!

Have a great weekend everybody.

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94 is definitely not a go to year for me
However, I enjoyed this show. Nice same thing, Queen Jane, West LA Fairway, New Speedway Boogie, and yes a great He's Gone! Nice Stelle Blue. Fun times. Recording is good. Thanks WTJ for the pick.
What did you all think?

OB, shit I don't like either team left in the NFC, particularly the Eagles. So, let's go Niners!
Routing for the Chiefs, not a Bangles fan. Should be a couple good games.

Great story about your youth BC, love the Skull and Roses tee. February 73 is hot, but shoot, is there a bad month in 73?

When I was coming up in the ranks of the Dead world in 85, most of the guys at my school were big metal heads, being a Dead fan was definitely not cool. By the time I graduated in 89, those same metal guys turned into dead heads.

I will have to get to 10/19/72 tomorrow. I got through the first set of 10/17/72. Smoking hot!

#45 shipping notice received a couple days ago. Still sitting in the shipping label created stage since 1/25.

Be well out there.

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I can't believe I just read a positive review by one Brian Dyke!! 3/21/94 in the Taping Compendium.

Well I'll be....LOL :-)

Onwards and Upwards...

P.S. Just happened to check out the "Fox Box" (edit- well almost) recently and was sampling the 72, too!! :-)

How bout a double shot?
These are both on Dicks list of recommended 73s and I don’t think we’ve heard them here, at least I’ve never heard em.

BC, I’m sure I’ve missed some picks, GOGD I am not lol. (Even though he’s a stinking quitter; )
Perhaps part of the problem is when several of us toss several things out at once, or like your recent mention of some 72 stuff: we’re those picks, or just stuff for discussion/suggestion?
In those cases, say where four shows are brought up, I’ll mark the one or 2 things that others seemed to actually listened to and or commented on.
Like how I’ll mention something related to a days pick as a suggestion for furthur listening, but I wouldn’t call a “pick”

I’ve been trying to go through at least once a week and note the shows picked and who picked em in my Deadbase, but I don’t keep track of when etc. I’m sure there were times between GOGD and when I became more diligent about keeping track that I’ve missed, SLACKER! LOL

3/21/94: I need to discuss these shows sooner after I listen as I’ve already forgotten some of the nuances I wanted to discuss, yeeesshhk.
I thought this one had good energy for 94 or in general, though Eternity was a bit of a buzz kill. Didn’t used to mind that one so much but it’s shelf life might be coming up? Really dug the second set! I’ve always liked the rocking vibe of Picasso and how JG can rip it up sometimes even if I have no idea what it’s about lol. Cool Speedway, and I usually like a good Victim, though I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. Sweet He’s Gone, great harmonies, lil jam into another trippy 90s rave space, followed by a a nice LL/Stella/LL samitch and a Liberty encore for some variety.

3/30/87: I’ve found these spring 87 shows more enjoyable then I recall?
I like the matrixes and this one didn’t seem too bad though I agree that some of them are not balanced so well. I think part of my weirdness with this tour stems from being there, and being disappointed because if certain expectations we had more than the music itself?
The way things were progressing vis a vis breaking out oldies and the old psychedelic energy, 87 was like a step backward (to us perhaps versus reality?) the jams were fewer/tamer, the vibe was much more dialed in, settled, and lacking that element of danger we were getting used to before the first health hiatus.
We had gotten the whole tour ticket package (perhaps for a discount?) though not intending to do the whole thing. Probably figured extra tix on tour are gold Jerry, gold i tell ya!
Whatevs, we did hit the first 8 but by Worcester I think a combination of burnout, tour colds, rapidly diminishing funds, and most of all, feeling underwhelmed? It’s all such a blur, don’t recall much of that spring or more so 86?
So we sold the Wooster tix, hindsight being 20/20 wish we’d gone… (think we got rid of Chi town and Jersey already?)

Anywho, my point being at the time we had a blast, dug the shows as always, but we’re a little disappointed.
So unfortunately, like many things, once I’d made a judgment that was that and I’d sorta wrote em off.
But through going furthur these most recent years I’ve grown to like them, even if not perhaps top shelf?
So This go round of 3/30/87 was quite enjoyable for a lazy day in the comfy chair.
Shakedown not the goat but no slouch and a good opener! Nice well played energetic songs with a good set list.
Second set builds up nicely, including another good He’s Gone. I believe it was this one that has Phil hitting these big single notes on the backside outro section. I remember it really stuck out and I was smiling etc.
Perhaps like much of 87 no really stand out stuff, just good clean safe tight GD! I’ve come to think of 87 as 77s younger cousin in that sense of the band really listening and playing consistent good clean music together as a unit, even if lacking the big jams and fireworks?
Anyway, glad I got it in abd hey, it’s got a Baby Blue ; )

Wish I would of continued with more music yesterday instead of more poorly played football.
Onward!

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Okay, those sound good to me OB. I will get those started. Champaign Illinois let's go.