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    What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    ...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

    Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

    I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    ForensicDoc is quite knowledgeable in the Floyd and gave us some background about Wembley 74 when it came out as CD 2 of DSOTM remaster. I don’t remember the details but maybe he will fill us in again.

    So, I suspect that the vinyl is the same as CD 2 of the DSOTM remaster.
    They don’t give the date because they think that people won’t buy the CD if they already have the circulating BBC copy. But that doesn’t apply to me because I will buy the audio upgrade.
    Too bad Floyd has to mostly rely on old TV and radio recordings for their live releases. And they may have already emptied the vault with the Early Years Box.

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    Berry interesting

    Tanks fellers!
    Weird they don’t list the actual dates?

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    That show was broadcast on BBC, so decent copies have been in circulation for years.
    But set 2 that came with the remastered DSOTM sounds better than the copy I have.

    But at least my copy is the complete show.

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    Yes... , and it would have been the Wembley Pool/Arena The Dead played in 1990. A cavernous place - if you are more than 2/3rds of way from the stage it's questionable whether it's worth going at all. I was so far away, and so high up in the clouds, when I saw Page and Plant that I might as well have been in the next county. It was great in the stalls for The Dead on 10/30/90 but two night later, up in the Gods, to the right...not so good.

    Oro - I'm not 100% certain, but going off comments on the Steve Hoffman forum, it looks as though all sections released in the sources you mention are from the same Floyd show. There was a discussion recently about whether the sound quality would be improved on this new live Dark Side compared to what had come out earlier. The general idea,as I remember it, seemed to be that it would be the same.

    I've noticed a few live recordings of bands that have come out that give no, or very little, indication of the date of the show being presented. Some of The Stones ones are like that - they tell you the year, but not necessarily the date.

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    Wembley in north west London is home to the Empire Pool, renamed the Wembley Arena in 1978, which was an indoor swimming pool built for the 1934 British Empire Games and last used as a swimming pool for the 1948 Olympic Games. After that the pool was covered and it has been used as a venue for various events ever since. It is next to Wembley Stadium, the national football stadium. The original stadium was demolished and rebuilt early this century. Sometimes it is used for concerts but most concerts take place in the Pool/Arena. If a concert is described as having taken place at Wembley, chances are it was at the Pool/Arena.

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    Yeah, what gives?

    I have the remastered “experience” editions of DSOTM and Wish and the bonus disc from DSOTM is all of DSOTM labeled “Live at the Empire Pool, Wembley, London 1974”, while the bonus disc from Wish has Shine On, Raving and Drooling, abd you’ve got to be Crazy labeled “Live at Wembley 1974”.
    Also have a 24:10 Echoes from “Wembley 1974” off of Early Years box, cd 20 track 11 (Thanks Again Dave!)
    So yeah, are all these from the same show?

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    In my Pink Floyd folder, shows. I have two shows from "Wembley". 11/15/74 and 11/16/74. One is labeled Wembley Stadium and the other is "Wembley Empire Pool".

    Are these the same place or two different venues?

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    Alvarhanaso - you probably know - I had forgotten yesterday - but the first three tracks from the Wembley 1974 show, "Shine On.." "Raving and "Drooling" and "You Gotta Be Crazy" were included in the second disc of the "Wish You Were Here" set that came out a few years ago. Which does make this new "Dark Side" live portion that's coming out a bit more desirable, as it's possible for me to piece together the whole show.

    My copy of "Early Years" included a cd of "Live at Pompeii" but not "Obscured By Clouds". I contacted "the authorities", and they sent me a cd of " Obscured Through Clouds." I didn't get the new mix of "Meddle" - though it occurs to me that if it's hidden, I may have it somewhere and not know about it.
    The other anomaly with this box is that the film "La Vallee" ( Obscured By Clouds) is in French with no sub titles.

    CNKD -the best thing about the Contin/uation set for me are the 10 BBC recordings from September and December 1967, with Syd Barrett still at the helm. The September set includes "Set The Controls For The Heart of The Sun" - which is great to have even if it is only about 3 minutes long. It's not that well recorded - it sounds as though someone taped it off a small mono radio by holding a microphone in front of the speaker. But what the heck.
    I also like the alternative promo film for "Arnold Layne". But if you aren't that fussed about the Syd era, it's probably not worth getting. It's a long way, for better or worse, from the Dave Gilmour lineup of the band.

    That re-recorded version of DSOTM you, mentioned , Alvarhanso, by Roger Waters sounds a bit of a travesty to me. Maybe he thinks of it as more of a solo album than one by Pink Floyd .

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    Pairing live recordings with studio remasters

    My first listen of Rush 3-24,25-81 and it’s awesome.
    Comes as CD 2 and 3 of Moving Pictures 40th.

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    I assume that it’s the same recording that was on CD2 of the recently released DSOTM reissue.

    I passed on the Early Years Box but got the individual mini Boxes for half the price (at that time). I figured that I could pass on the bonus Box since I didn’t need the two movies and already had the Echoes. Just went to Wikipedia to see what else was in that bonus Box and the article mentioned that some of the Blu-ray’s from the whole Box were defective and there was a recall from 2019-2020. Hope mine aren’t bad now, guess I’ll have to watch them all to check. Put that on the to do list.

    David and Roger fighting.
    DLR and Eddie VH fighting.
    Inflated egos ruining good bands.

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What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Only Dave's picks I've seen last a week, which is a bit of a shock to be honest. I've gotten them all from 30 on and this is probably my most anticipated show to be released. No doubt there have been some good ones since then but I thought this one would be gone quickly

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Marx Brothers classic.
Groucho - I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member.
Cheers
RT Vol. 1 No. 1, 1979 - Interesting sound on this. Very dynamic and heavy on the midrange? Vocals not so much. Brent's electric piano (synth?) so bright and loud it hurts. Phil sounds good though.

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Glad to hear that folks are getting their Dave's Picks 45 in the mail. I got a shipping notification 5 days ago, but if I click on the tracking number USPS still says they are waiting for the package. This has happened before and I've come home and found the package waiting for me, so who knows.

Thanks to all who've weighed in on why this Pick isn't sold out. Anecdotally I've often found that people wax lyrical about Spring '77 but don't seem to have the same affinity for Fall, so maybe that's a factor. IDK. I just know that I was enjoying the heck out of Dave's Vol 25 yesterday. Pulling out 23 today just to listen to it while it's still January...

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When you get your copy, pay attention to the time when the audience tape fades into the soundboard on track 2. :)

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Istshow - great quote by Groucho Marx. Filched by The Cramps for the opening line of their classic " No Club Lone Wolf".

Paste that tracking number into the UPS system.
Mine tracked all the way with UPS until it was handed off to USPS.
At that point the USPS system tracked it until it was put in my mailbox today.

Started with 10-2 set 2 since I had a pretty good cassette copy of that show and know it well.

Sounds grate!
And waaaaaay better than the opera.

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Thanks ICECRMCNKD -- you were spot on, UPS has my package. Looks like they only took possession today but as it's already in California I should have it fairly quickly now. Good tip, thank you!

And wow small world- I was also figuring I'd start with 10/2, and for the same reason. Cheers

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UPS tells me "A delivery date will be provided as soon as possible", the same message since 1/25/23. USPS just says Status not available. If I hadn't had three prior bouts with Dave's Picks being lost in transit and taking months to get resolved, I'd be less anxious about it. Not too encouraged seeing the shipping address is missing my apartment number, which my billing info definitely has as it's listed twice on the order status page at deadnet. Oh well, plenty of Dead to listen to...

Last five as best as I can recall:
GOGD 5/17/77 and 5/15/77
Jazz is Dead 4/14/99
Peter Gabriel Secret World Live I suppose watching a concert film counts
And GOGD DaP 45 Listening Party followed by my own Listening Party to 9/9/72 The Other One, which was a relisten as I listened to it when it was announced, curious at a 34 min Other One a week after the 9/3/72 Folsom one that is filler on DiP 36 9/21/72. It more than delivered, but this time I let the Stella Blue play, and I normally don't care much for '72 Stellas, as they just haven't yet found it, and it's almost exactly perfect in '73; but this one was fantastic. Phil is all over it. Far better than the one 2 weeks before on DaP 24 8/25/72 where Jerry is still searching for the vocal and the guitar voicing (another 30+ Other One on that one, too), but I also believe Jerry was completely wasted at that point. But anyway, I know some like to go in with virgin listens to the Normanized, I just get excited and want to hear some of the highlights of what I will hear in better quality. I also listened to Bird Song and Playing on this venture on 9/9. Saving the rest for May, I suppose.

Hope to hear more good things about DaP 45. I liked the Listening Party, except Jack Straw. Way too fast a tempo. Doesn't need to be funereal slow like Dead & Co, but I like a good loping pace to Jack Straw that builds to a fiery peak, not the double time, frenzied pace of this one. DaP 25 11/6/77 shows how by the end of the tour, they learned how to burn the place down with Jack Straw and keep it about the same tempo, just throw in more and more of the power chords.

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I've also had delivery issues in the past.. this was not one of those times. Shipped notification email arrived Jan 25; package showed up today via US Mail (Jan 31). Tracking the package online was useless and seldom updated. Love the liner notes and pictures.. can't wait to spin it.

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....yeah Alvarhanso, Jack Straw is known for those.
The Go To Nassau '80 release has a version that is as close to metal that I have heard them play.

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...that you are the song that the morning sings.

My kind of Grateful Dead. New to me 10-1-77. Really liking this pick, Dave! Well done...

Enjoy all, Stay Grateful!

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I never received a shipping notice yet. What's up guys. Is this normal?

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I always thought "Passenger" had a Stonesy type swagger, and I notice that's played on the first night of this set. They did seem more heavy rock to me in the second half of 1977 compared to the first.

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the time is right for that quote

got #110 (so close to #102) yesterday

listened to the first 4 tracks or so

yummy

still in a GD69 mood

God bless the Grateful Dead

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the time is right for that quote

got #110 (so close to #102) yesterday

listened to the first 4 tracks or so

yummy

still in a GD69 mood

God bless the Grateful Dead

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Hi Everybody. For what it's worth, I never received a shipping notification. I just noticed yesterday that USPS was bringing a package to my house, which was delivered with my regular mail. If I didn't look at the USPS Informed Delivery e-mail, I would not have know it was coming.

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This just popped up. Dave's 23 on 5 LPs.
I always buy the vinyl but I just listened to this and it is good but...
I better decide fast only 5000 copies.
That's what I thought about Light Into Ashes.
And I think it is still available. (Yes, and it was a 7200 copy release)
Could justify Dave's 1 on vinyl because I don't have the CD.
I'm waffling. Where is Dennis' wife's credit card?
Cheers

So I guess the Dave's Vinyl model isn't doing them all in numerical order starting with No.1. More of a pick and choose by them.

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Garcia Family Provisions album of the month.
Garcia Live No. 5, NYE 1975 at The Keystone for 20% off.
Don't have that one yet and it's got Nicky Hopkins.
Tough choice, $124.95 or $13.59. Hmmm.
$13.59 it is! Where is my wife's credit card?
Cheers

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Well that was unexpected. Seems a bit of an odd choice for a release to me on the back of Daves 45, featuring shows played only two months before it. I played the cds last month and while I do think it's a great show - both sets - I can't remember thinking there was anything wrong with the sound quality that could be improved by listening to it on vinyl.
I guess buying it would be insurance if the cds become unplayable in a few years, as some of them seem to have become..but otherwise, I'm not so sure.

Ordered. Sorry 1st but that sucking sound was my wife's card being spanked to death. I would have asked her permission but she's been on a conference call. If I wait it may sell out!!!

45 is close, but Dallas is shut down for the second day since we got a 1/2 inch of snow!!! Post Office didn't even come yesterday. Looked like snow, but I guess it isn't,,,, right? Rain, hail, sleet or snow, must have be something else :-)

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None of my GD CDs have what has been discussed here as "disc rot".
Most of them have never been played (or stored) in the car.
Just lucky? They have been in the dry high desert W. Colo. environment.
Hard to say. Maybe just bad pressings (are CDs pressings?) or production issues for the rotten ones?
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Edit: Thanks Dennis, I'm good. Gonna pass I'm afraid. Your DFW area looks like they drivin' in the funny papers (to quote Hoke in Driving Miss Daisy) on that ice. Just one after another piling up. Got a CO buddy who is in Ft.W and he always remarks at the lack of bad weather driving skills down there. No practice I guess! And likely no snow tires either.

Edit 2: Oro is famous! He is cited in Community Bits in the Feb. GD Bulletin currently in my inbox. Way to go Oro! And they mention it is Dave L's anniv. of 1st day working for the GD. PIc of him in his bold ski outfit and some cool looking rockered skis with bolts on them. Seen lots of different GD skis but don't know who made that newer model. Anybody know? The pic with his cat is cool too. Big ole long hair. Of course it's a longhair! Dang hippies, get off my lawn!

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Got mine today. Haven't listened to it yet, but I'm very pleased that it contains both shows. Wasn't expecting them to both be complete shows. Thank you Dave.

The 10/2 post-drums section is one of my favorites of all time. Especially Wheel>Truckin>Other One - the transitions are exceptional. Yes, The Other One is brief, but that whole trifecta with the transitions is picture perfect. I can't wait to listen to it.

I have not been lurking here at all in recent months. I hope everyone is in good health and enjoying 2023 so far. Stay warm this weekend!

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It's not there. Go back 17 pages on this thread where Dennis has listed them.
Cheers

8-21-72 B.C.T. on GD Hour rerun this week. 1st of 4 that encompass the entire show. Interesting that David Gans can do complete shows just not all in one sitting. As I recall his earlier shows could not do whole sets either.

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That charmed mofo...if only the Seahawks had run the ball that second Super Bowl...TB would have one less championship.

The boneheaded shit will annoy me to my grave.

Grr.

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Hi all, I hope the crew is doing well. I got my copy yesterday and after hard jiu jitsu training session, I came home and gave it a listen. I got through CDs 1 and 2 which is the 10/1 show. As expected very much a classic 77 show. I really love that we are getting more of the fall of 77 being released simply because those shows still have 1977 Grateful Dead feel and flow (obviously), but they do differ (at least to my ears) from April and May of that year. Right now I am listening to 10/2 and I have to say there is quite the exceptional Casey Jones opener... In any case, 1977 is the year that keeps on giving.

Random things:
I have recently discovered Jethro Tull beyond the one commonly played song Aqualung that circulates through the local radio stations. Needless to say I am jumping head first down that rabbit hole.

Oro got the shoutout in the monthly Grateful Dead bulletin in the Community Bits section. Very cool!

I believe that today is the anniversary of Dave L coming on board with the Grateful Dead. All I can say to that is what I always do: Thank You Dave for everything! And when you can , how about a 1985 release pretty please?

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22355/25000
Monday afternoon 2/1/23
Being from PdxS and alive then (though only 2yrs) makes this release extra special.
Thanks Dave for the Portland Oregon consideration, also for Pick #44 in Eugene!

Picked up at the PO yesterday, previewed a few last night. Audio quality preliminary (*after auds) seems excellent. Busy with prep for the bitter cold weekend, will keep warm with this full listen soon. Nice to have more October to go with DaP Dekalb and RT 1.2 releases. Reminding folks Dicks 29 has hidden tracks from October 11 show on discs 2 & 5, including a grate Wharf Rat.

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Is it just me, or is the sound quality not great for the first couple of songs on Disc 1 of Dave's 45? About halfway through TLEO it gets better, but not great to start. Could be my Bose disc player acting up.

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The Groundhog popped up this morning, and predicts a quick delivery of DaP 45, rather than a further six weeks waiting on delivery.

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Howdy!

Depending on how rocked out you like your music, my recommendations are Thick as A Brick and Passion Play. Enjoy

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PF - only 46 days until Spring - tonight, in my area, they are expecting -30 C/22 F, so I sure hope so.
I will NOT be out with my binoculars in my backyard tonight trying to see The Green Comet (Comet C/2022 E3 on its birth certificate), not seen since Neanderthals roamed the earth. It can wait a night or two.

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My wife's been watching every night for a week.
Drags herself out of bed after the moon sets in bitter cold air.
She's over it now and not very impressed with Greenie.
At best it was a fuzzy blob, as comets are, but color was evasive.
That said she did not set up the little telescope, just 10x binos.
Amazed at her dedication. You go girl!
Cheers

Tull - Thick As a Brick, easily my favorite, Living In The Past comes in second. For more modern releases Rock Island and Roots And Branches weren't too bad. Oh, and Crest of a Knave was good.

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Kudos to your Mrs for her dedication. You’re right, though, most of the time - with the exception of Neowise - comet gazing is a dud. Neowise was a rock star.

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Just delivered. Will comment later. I listened to Dap 21 last night. Those east coast shows are hot.

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Have yet to listen to 45, but it did arrive yesterday. Everyone seems pretty pumped so far....

Hey PF, I have a junior in high school, and he just wrote an essay for his English class titled something like "Why the SB 49 call was not as bad as you thought." He makes some great points, including that there was an 80% chance that play call would result in a touchdown. He goes into this "the analytics say" stuff and I'm just like, I don't give an EFF what the analytics say, you got Beast Mode, hand.off.the.ball. Kids and their analytics these days, pfttt

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Jethro Tull - Benefit, Stand-up, Storm Watch, Living in the past.
Spinning 45 now, after the first two tunes, it evens out and becomes very pleasant. Mexicali with Jer shredding and the last Dire Wolf in the key of E. A Cassidy then Deal with Jerry again on top of it into a killer Passenger then back to Tennessee. Great first set here with a real pretty Peggy-O. Second set looks great too.

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