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    What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    ...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

    Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

    I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • billy the kiddd
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    Anniversary show 3/28/84. Marin Veterans Auditorium

    39 years ago today, I saw the Grateful Dead put on a great show, at the tiny Marin Veterans Auditorium. It was the first show of 1984.

  • dmcvt
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    Dennis: Yes, let's drive them nuts with requests! We don't know what we don't know, so tell us already. If 45 and MSG have not sold out yet, they will, eventually. WMG is not going to lose money, how they guide their program must take us into account. I did not buy the trunk, could get by with 6 or 9 of those shows, they were available for a long while by the each direct from dead.net, picked a few off. Never designated as numbered or limited, now harder to find at 3x price, thankful for the help of friends. WMG could reissue selected Europe 72 shows and they would sell well. Found a simple easy resource to quickly show whats been released officially, through #45, search on deaddisc or GDFD Dead by Date. Chronological and incremental, easy to scan periods/eras, telling us stuff we already know but might have forgotten. SIXTUS: well said, nothing I could add to that, other than my thing, followed them since age fifteen, 55 years now at 70. Did not get over to Rutland for recent DSO, did previously thank Rob Eaton in person for all his crucial work for the archives... JRAD at Jay Peak in August.

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    The more I think back on all that the GD have done, one of the real enticements and awakenings for me at the beginning of this musical journey – once I realized that the recordings were ‘out there’ to find and consume – was the very real and tangible difference in their sound as I ventured across the years of their output. Indeed, the sound of this band, and rightfully so, morphs tremendously over the three decades they all made music together. We all know the general reasons for this, from the burgeoning and relatable hold that rock and roll had on the initiating generation, to numerous personnel changes which literally forced the sound to change (i.e. Pigpen’s passing, Mickey in/Mickey Out/Mickey In, the subsequent ‘Spinal Tap-esque’ revolving keyboard slot, etc.), to of course the addition and/or retraction of various mind-altering substances, as well as the inevitable wear and tear of the ravages of time on band members themselves.

    For a band to have existed for 30 years, it would be really difficult for them not to morph and change with the times given all of the circumstances. But I guess what has really hit me recently, especially after starting to listen more intently to other, newer bands on the upswing, is how much of the Grateful Dead music I reference in my mind as attributable to a particular time, or era. We all know that 66-69 GD is its own special beast. And that 70 was it’s own nuanced moment too. As was 71, then into 72 and the fabled tour, coming back and going into 73 and 74; the sound stays the same but also subtly shifts more toward the jazzy and open-ended. Then the hiatus and return, and once again they had reinvented their sound and approach to a lot of the music. Onward through the 70’s things shifted yet again, culminating with the end of the decade, another roster change, and the music now being played much faster (and arguably less exploratory) which permeated much of the 80’s until Jerry’s brush with death. They got another reboot, and things sort of calmed down as they headed off into their last half decade or so but they morphed yet again with the advent and inclusion of MIDI, love it or leave it.

    I guess what I am saying is that when I think about Grateful Dead music, I immediately think of a year or collection of years (i.e. The Era) in the context of whatever it is that I am referencing. I always have in my mind when listening or thinking about The Good Stuff, the inseparability of the band and the year the music in question or in thought is referring to. Because when you talk about the music, it is always tied to a year or to a performance and thus bringing with it the nuance of that time period, the good, the mundane, the transcendent. Thinking about the GD at different points of time throughout their career provides me with variances in appreciation that I honestly cannot say is received from many other bands, or even Things, for that matter. The fact that the Grateful Dead, on the whole, really need to be considered in their totality when thinking about them or honing in on any one thing, is fairly unique. In retrospect, I’ve been listening to the GD since I was about 13 years old. I’m now in my 50th year. That’s literally a lifetime! I know it pales in comparison to many others’ exposure, but what it has taught me is a really neat expose on longevity and creativity and how these guys continued to keep things new and fresh as a result of who they were and the changes that were forced upon them.

    Be Well People.
    Sixtus

  • Dennis
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    DMCVT - list of vault

    Maybe they don't produce a list because we would drive them nuts about what to do next. We do anyway,,, but a list would make us whine even more! :-)

    .... yeah, where is that last FW69 vinyl?!?!?! :-)

    sidebar - VMP is putting out a box set of Miles Davis. 350 bucks, 7 electric albums. One of the albums (on the corner) is a record store day buy. Box looks nice, may have to pass or wait. Those unemployment blues! :-)

  • dmcvt
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    One of my most favored "moon" songs... just listen how JJ creates such a deep groove that swings in a few seconds. That sweet laid back guitar. I would buy an Ark box in a heartbeat. If they have been listening at all, we are way overdue for a primal/primal transition box, a late 60s Bay Area box, et al. How about publishing an inventory of whats in the vault? And where, oh where, is the final vinyl for FW69??

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    Ledded - I liked your post titled Dark Road. To me, the country blues of the 1920's and 30's also has a supernatural quality. The fact that the recordings are often quite crackly adds to this feeling of mystique - you really do feel as though you are listening to music from another dimension. Some of the mythology adds to the vibe - Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil, Peetie Wheatstraw A.K.A The Devils- Son -In -Law. But the power is in the grooves. Scores and scores of great and otherworldly recordings.

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    I'm not sure years are always the best way of thinking of eras with The Dead. For me, what I think of as primal Dead started when Mickey Hart joined around September 1967. They seemed to be on a continuous, thematic run of creativity from then until they started introducing Working Mans Dead songs, around May 1969. Not that the creativity dried up - it just started shifting, gradually, into another dimension. Looked at like this, that whole era, from late 1967 until mid 1969 - one of the most creative periods in their ( or anyone else's) career, has been completely overlooked in the Dave's Picks series. Even the 1969 shows released in the series so far have been outside this period.
    So, to cut to the chase - high time we had a release from late1967- mid1969!

    I don't think I would buy a 1990's box - maybe if it was Europe 1990, as I was there for three of them. That would be the selling point, I guess, for 80's-90's shows -people would be tempted to buy them just because they were there at the time.

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    Ark us!!....

    ....that would sell out in six hours.
    I know EVERYONE here would buy it.
    The women aren't always smarter 😉

  • Mr. Ones
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    Who Knows?? Not Me.

    We know Wake of the Flood will be released with (hopefully) some live ‘73 stuff. We know about Dave’s 46 (can’t wait!!) live ‘72.
    The optimist in me says surely’71 for the box?!?!
    Not a chance. My guess is ‘85, ‘87 or ‘91.
    Or….maybe another 1 venue cornucopia.
    Whatever it is, I want it/gotta have it.

    Last 5:
    Beyond Description-Bonus Disc (sweet!!)
    Zappa-Mudd Club ‘80
    Jeff Beck-There And Back
    Jackson Browne-Hold Out
    Dick’s 11-Disc 3 (Dark Star- 31 minutes!!)

    Music is the Best!!

  • JimInMD
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    Nice imagery Ledded.

    As for the box.. I'm not getting a 90's vibe. We have St Louis, then MSG.. so early 70's then early 80's. Neither were multi track. Something of higher sound quality or perhaps some 73 to celebrate a half century.

    I have to think there are a few boxes containing 1" thick reels of magnetic particle coated acetate sitting in the vault waiting to be heard. I'm a little bit surprised there was not more push back on the last box being pulled completely from cassette masters. I enjoyed that box primarily because the years are not very well represented, and shows were strong from the era.. but compare it to say July '78 and it was a big step down in sound quality.

    I think there will be some pressure to step things up, and if there isn't there should be. Or maybe.. (hope I'm wong), they have to scale back on the boxes or they will lose their specialness among what's being released. The last box set was something like $189 I think, during a time of economic instability.. well.. I don't think they want a dud. They really have to step it up a bit.

    All this is moot, however, they surely are well beyond the selection process. Let's hope they selected wisely.

    I do think at some point they have to give us a 68 show or a composite of partials/shorter shows. Geeze Dave.. look beyond the banana boxes, perhaps you will find an orange crate (hint, they're bigger).

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What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Only Dave's picks I've seen last a week, which is a bit of a shock to be honest. I've gotten them all from 30 on and this is probably my most anticipated show to be released. No doubt there have been some good ones since then but I thought this one would be gone quickly

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Marx Brothers classic.
Groucho - I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member.
Cheers
RT Vol. 1 No. 1, 1979 - Interesting sound on this. Very dynamic and heavy on the midrange? Vocals not so much. Brent's electric piano (synth?) so bright and loud it hurts. Phil sounds good though.

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Glad to hear that folks are getting their Dave's Picks 45 in the mail. I got a shipping notification 5 days ago, but if I click on the tracking number USPS still says they are waiting for the package. This has happened before and I've come home and found the package waiting for me, so who knows.

Thanks to all who've weighed in on why this Pick isn't sold out. Anecdotally I've often found that people wax lyrical about Spring '77 but don't seem to have the same affinity for Fall, so maybe that's a factor. IDK. I just know that I was enjoying the heck out of Dave's Vol 25 yesterday. Pulling out 23 today just to listen to it while it's still January...

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When you get your copy, pay attention to the time when the audience tape fades into the soundboard on track 2. :)

Istshow - great quote by Groucho Marx. Filched by The Cramps for the opening line of their classic " No Club Lone Wolf".

Paste that tracking number into the UPS system.
Mine tracked all the way with UPS until it was handed off to USPS.
At that point the USPS system tracked it until it was put in my mailbox today.

Started with 10-2 set 2 since I had a pretty good cassette copy of that show and know it well.

Sounds grate!
And waaaaaay better than the opera.

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Thanks ICECRMCNKD -- you were spot on, UPS has my package. Looks like they only took possession today but as it's already in California I should have it fairly quickly now. Good tip, thank you!

And wow small world- I was also figuring I'd start with 10/2, and for the same reason. Cheers

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UPS tells me "A delivery date will be provided as soon as possible", the same message since 1/25/23. USPS just says Status not available. If I hadn't had three prior bouts with Dave's Picks being lost in transit and taking months to get resolved, I'd be less anxious about it. Not too encouraged seeing the shipping address is missing my apartment number, which my billing info definitely has as it's listed twice on the order status page at deadnet. Oh well, plenty of Dead to listen to...

Last five as best as I can recall:
GOGD 5/17/77 and 5/15/77
Jazz is Dead 4/14/99
Peter Gabriel Secret World Live I suppose watching a concert film counts
And GOGD DaP 45 Listening Party followed by my own Listening Party to 9/9/72 The Other One, which was a relisten as I listened to it when it was announced, curious at a 34 min Other One a week after the 9/3/72 Folsom one that is filler on DiP 36 9/21/72. It more than delivered, but this time I let the Stella Blue play, and I normally don't care much for '72 Stellas, as they just haven't yet found it, and it's almost exactly perfect in '73; but this one was fantastic. Phil is all over it. Far better than the one 2 weeks before on DaP 24 8/25/72 where Jerry is still searching for the vocal and the guitar voicing (another 30+ Other One on that one, too), but I also believe Jerry was completely wasted at that point. But anyway, I know some like to go in with virgin listens to the Normanized, I just get excited and want to hear some of the highlights of what I will hear in better quality. I also listened to Bird Song and Playing on this venture on 9/9. Saving the rest for May, I suppose.

Hope to hear more good things about DaP 45. I liked the Listening Party, except Jack Straw. Way too fast a tempo. Doesn't need to be funereal slow like Dead & Co, but I like a good loping pace to Jack Straw that builds to a fiery peak, not the double time, frenzied pace of this one. DaP 25 11/6/77 shows how by the end of the tour, they learned how to burn the place down with Jack Straw and keep it about the same tempo, just throw in more and more of the power chords.

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I've also had delivery issues in the past.. this was not one of those times. Shipped notification email arrived Jan 25; package showed up today via US Mail (Jan 31). Tracking the package online was useless and seldom updated. Love the liner notes and pictures.. can't wait to spin it.

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....yeah Alvarhanso, Jack Straw is known for those.
The Go To Nassau '80 release has a version that is as close to metal that I have heard them play.

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...that you are the song that the morning sings.

My kind of Grateful Dead. New to me 10-1-77. Really liking this pick, Dave! Well done...

Enjoy all, Stay Grateful!

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I never received a shipping notice yet. What's up guys. Is this normal?

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I always thought "Passenger" had a Stonesy type swagger, and I notice that's played on the first night of this set. They did seem more heavy rock to me in the second half of 1977 compared to the first.

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Hi Everybody. For what it's worth, I never received a shipping notification. I just noticed yesterday that USPS was bringing a package to my house, which was delivered with my regular mail. If I didn't look at the USPS Informed Delivery e-mail, I would not have know it was coming.

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This just popped up. Dave's 23 on 5 LPs.
I always buy the vinyl but I just listened to this and it is good but...
I better decide fast only 5000 copies.
That's what I thought about Light Into Ashes.
And I think it is still available. (Yes, and it was a 7200 copy release)
Could justify Dave's 1 on vinyl because I don't have the CD.
I'm waffling. Where is Dennis' wife's credit card?
Cheers

So I guess the Dave's Vinyl model isn't doing them all in numerical order starting with No.1. More of a pick and choose by them.

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Garcia Family Provisions album of the month.
Garcia Live No. 5, NYE 1975 at The Keystone for 20% off.
Don't have that one yet and it's got Nicky Hopkins.
Tough choice, $124.95 or $13.59. Hmmm.
$13.59 it is! Where is my wife's credit card?
Cheers

Well that was unexpected. Seems a bit of an odd choice for a release to me on the back of Daves 45, featuring shows played only two months before it. I played the cds last month and while I do think it's a great show - both sets - I can't remember thinking there was anything wrong with the sound quality that could be improved by listening to it on vinyl.
I guess buying it would be insurance if the cds become unplayable in a few years, as some of them seem to have become..but otherwise, I'm not so sure.

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Ordered. Sorry 1st but that sucking sound was my wife's card being spanked to death. I would have asked her permission but she's been on a conference call. If I wait it may sell out!!!

45 is close, but Dallas is shut down for the second day since we got a 1/2 inch of snow!!! Post Office didn't even come yesterday. Looked like snow, but I guess it isn't,,,, right? Rain, hail, sleet or snow, must have be something else :-)

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None of my GD CDs have what has been discussed here as "disc rot".
Most of them have never been played (or stored) in the car.
Just lucky? They have been in the dry high desert W. Colo. environment.
Hard to say. Maybe just bad pressings (are CDs pressings?) or production issues for the rotten ones?
Cheers

Edit: Thanks Dennis, I'm good. Gonna pass I'm afraid. Your DFW area looks like they drivin' in the funny papers (to quote Hoke in Driving Miss Daisy) on that ice. Just one after another piling up. Got a CO buddy who is in Ft.W and he always remarks at the lack of bad weather driving skills down there. No practice I guess! And likely no snow tires either.

Edit 2: Oro is famous! He is cited in Community Bits in the Feb. GD Bulletin currently in my inbox. Way to go Oro! And they mention it is Dave L's anniv. of 1st day working for the GD. PIc of him in his bold ski outfit and some cool looking rockered skis with bolts on them. Seen lots of different GD skis but don't know who made that newer model. Anybody know? The pic with his cat is cool too. Big ole long hair. Of course it's a longhair! Dang hippies, get off my lawn!

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Got mine today. Haven't listened to it yet, but I'm very pleased that it contains both shows. Wasn't expecting them to both be complete shows. Thank you Dave.

The 10/2 post-drums section is one of my favorites of all time. Especially Wheel>Truckin>Other One - the transitions are exceptional. Yes, The Other One is brief, but that whole trifecta with the transitions is picture perfect. I can't wait to listen to it.

I have not been lurking here at all in recent months. I hope everyone is in good health and enjoying 2023 so far. Stay warm this weekend!

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It's not there. Go back 17 pages on this thread where Dennis has listed them.
Cheers

8-21-72 B.C.T. on GD Hour rerun this week. 1st of 4 that encompass the entire show. Interesting that David Gans can do complete shows just not all in one sitting. As I recall his earlier shows could not do whole sets either.

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Yahoo! USPS says my Dave's is out for delivery today!!

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That charmed mofo...if only the Seahawks had run the ball that second Super Bowl...TB would have one less championship.

The boneheaded shit will annoy me to my grave.

Grr.

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Hi all, I hope the crew is doing well. I got my copy yesterday and after hard jiu jitsu training session, I came home and gave it a listen. I got through CDs 1 and 2 which is the 10/1 show. As expected very much a classic 77 show. I really love that we are getting more of the fall of 77 being released simply because those shows still have 1977 Grateful Dead feel and flow (obviously), but they do differ (at least to my ears) from April and May of that year. Right now I am listening to 10/2 and I have to say there is quite the exceptional Casey Jones opener... In any case, 1977 is the year that keeps on giving.

Random things:
I have recently discovered Jethro Tull beyond the one commonly played song Aqualung that circulates through the local radio stations. Needless to say I am jumping head first down that rabbit hole.

Oro got the shoutout in the monthly Grateful Dead bulletin in the Community Bits section. Very cool!

I believe that today is the anniversary of Dave L coming on board with the Grateful Dead. All I can say to that is what I always do: Thank You Dave for everything! And when you can , how about a 1985 release pretty please?

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Monday afternoon 2/1/23
Being from PdxS and alive then (though only 2yrs) makes this release extra special.
Thanks Dave for the Portland Oregon consideration, also for Pick #44 in Eugene!

Picked up at the PO yesterday, previewed a few last night. Audio quality preliminary (*after auds) seems excellent. Busy with prep for the bitter cold weekend, will keep warm with this full listen soon. Nice to have more October to go with DaP Dekalb and RT 1.2 releases. Reminding folks Dicks 29 has hidden tracks from October 11 show on discs 2 & 5, including a grate Wharf Rat.

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Is it just me, or is the sound quality not great for the first couple of songs on Disc 1 of Dave's 45? About halfway through TLEO it gets better, but not great to start. Could be my Bose disc player acting up.

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The Groundhog popped up this morning, and predicts a quick delivery of DaP 45, rather than a further six weeks waiting on delivery.

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Howdy!

Depending on how rocked out you like your music, my recommendations are Thick as A Brick and Passion Play. Enjoy

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PF - only 46 days until Spring - tonight, in my area, they are expecting -30 C/22 F, so I sure hope so.
I will NOT be out with my binoculars in my backyard tonight trying to see The Green Comet (Comet C/2022 E3 on its birth certificate), not seen since Neanderthals roamed the earth. It can wait a night or two.

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My wife's been watching every night for a week.
Drags herself out of bed after the moon sets in bitter cold air.
She's over it now and not very impressed with Greenie.
At best it was a fuzzy blob, as comets are, but color was evasive.
That said she did not set up the little telescope, just 10x binos.
Amazed at her dedication. You go girl!
Cheers

Tull - Thick As a Brick, easily my favorite, Living In The Past comes in second. For more modern releases Rock Island and Roots And Branches weren't too bad. Oh, and Crest of a Knave was good.

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Kudos to your Mrs for her dedication. You’re right, though, most of the time - with the exception of Neowise - comet gazing is a dud. Neowise was a rock star.

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Just delivered. Will comment later. I listened to Dap 21 last night. Those east coast shows are hot.

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Have yet to listen to 45, but it did arrive yesterday. Everyone seems pretty pumped so far....

Hey PF, I have a junior in high school, and he just wrote an essay for his English class titled something like "Why the SB 49 call was not as bad as you thought." He makes some great points, including that there was an 80% chance that play call would result in a touchdown. He goes into this "the analytics say" stuff and I'm just like, I don't give an EFF what the analytics say, you got Beast Mode, hand.off.the.ball. Kids and their analytics these days, pfttt

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Jethro Tull - Benefit, Stand-up, Storm Watch, Living in the past.
Spinning 45 now, after the first two tunes, it evens out and becomes very pleasant. Mexicali with Jer shredding and the last Dire Wolf in the key of E. A Cassidy then Deal with Jerry again on top of it into a killer Passenger then back to Tennessee. Great first set here with a real pretty Peggy-O. Second set looks great too.

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