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    What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    ...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

    Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

    I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    Great story, well told!

  • 1stshow70878
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    Or is that tail? Epic tale well told Oro-1.
    Thanks for sharing.
    Cheers
    DiP 18 is my favorite Dick's.

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    45 years ago, Madison Wisconsin!! And the next morning......

    was my 'brush with greatness.' Apologies to you all who have heard this tale, but with this anniversary and the releases of shows from '77 and '78, I want to spin this old chestnut again (hopefully some haven't heard this).

    But first grab a cup of coffee (or your preferred beverage) and get comfy, because this will take a while. Brevity is not my long-suit, so bear with me on this, but the background/back story is info it help it all make sense. Back in 1977, myself and my girlfriend (now wife) and two buddies decided to road trip from Nebraska to a New Year’s Eve Dead show run at the Winterland in San Francisco.

    I toted along with me a clay sculpture that I had made the prior year. It was a one and ½ foot (in circumference) dragon that was biting or consuming it’s own tail. It was fired and had ‘scraffitto’ (my own designs) carved into it’s ‘hide’ and then stained. It was the biggest piece of clay sculpture I have ever made. Anyway, I thought it would be fun to give it to the band on New Years Eve show.

    So away we go on the trip and get there and secure tickets for the shows on that Winterland run. The shows were unbefuckinliveable and that old Winterland was such a great venue. We were all sitting on the sidewalk on Dec 31st waiting for the doors to open early. We heard Bill Graham was going to let us all in early and we were going to play ‘freak’ volleyball until Graham played us movies from his collection (16 MM of Ray Bradbury’s Illustrated Man and the original Beatle’s Magical Mystery Tour) before the start of the show tonight.

    I thought that I better try to unload ‘Oroboros’ now (it was heavy and how was I going to talk that past the gate?) so I spied a door that said Backstage. No answer. The line of people on the sidewalk started getting up and moving to the door. Banged even harder thinking “I got to get this dragon in there so I can go in and play before the show tonight, this thing is heavy”, and as I pound harder the door yanks open so hard it draws me into the doorway, where a gigantic black man in a red Winderland shirt stopped me from being pulled inside with his had on my chest. “What do you want?” he bellowed. Startled, I said “I want to give this to the band” and held out the dragon in both hands. The giant took it in his immense hand and immediately the dragon shrunk to the size of a keychain. And he asked “Wow, what is it, I’d like one” and I explained “it’s an Oroboros, and that is the only one there is”. He grinned and said “Cool, who do you want me to give it to?” and I stated “Garcia, give it to Jerry Garcia.” And the door closed quickly, like in Dorothy’s first attempt to get into the Emerald city in Wizard of Oz.

    So, I happily hurry into the show and needless to say it was a singular experience: with those movies starting in the afternoon, the celebratory/raucous/colorful crowd, and the Grateful Dead 'playing in' the year of 1978. As each of us entered we were handed a piece of paper that had the message "Good things come to those who wait, surprise at midnight" with the stealie logo on it. Once inside I was stopped by ‘Rainbow’ Rose who had an eyedropper of liquid party favor in her hand. She said “ just one dollar per drop, on your tongue or for the adventurous, a drop in your eye.” Wow, this was going to be some night! One on the tongue, please!

    When you entered Winterland, you could go into the 'big hall' surrounded on all sides by an elevated balcony (complete with theater seats). You could also go into a bar, which was playing black and white videos (on an old fashioned 'big screen') of past performances of Hendrix, Airplane, etc from Graham's Winterland archives. Very entertaining, hey, the New Riders are starting to play, I got to get in there, the sound is loud and they are rocking the house.

    Anticipation is high and the Dead came out for the first set. Our party favors are now starting to engage...things began to sparkle and the old Winterland venue takes notice, and her walls start to sweat and then to sway with the strains of familiar music and the Dead coaxes this old hall to join us in our dance.

    Bill Graham got into the act dressed as Uncle Sam and he rode his motorcycle down a cable suspended high above us from the back of the Winterland auditorium to the stage. As the Dead improvised/noddled into the New Year Uncle "bill" Sam slowly moved above us illuminated by a spotlight. The hilarious part was as Uncle BoBo (as Bobby called Graham) was on this motorcycle, and as he approached the stage, the combined weight was too much and he sagged below the lip of the stage. So as the stagehands ran out and to drag ‘Uncle Sam’ onto the stage, Jerry and the band were all laughing as they saw his hilarious arrival to the stage. Then they burst into Sugar Magnolia, along with confetti explosions, as balloons dropped from the ceiling of the Winterland for our NYE celebration. Also on stage flanking the Dead were a gal and guy dressed in diapers as the new year's babies, dancing their asses off.

    And as I squinted at the band, I noticed in between Billy and Mickey’s drum set, sitting on a monitor with a white candle by it was the Oroboros ! ON STAGE with the Dead. Then I watched as Jerry walked over to it and he lit his cigarette off that candle. And when the stage lights went down between songs, the Oroboros was illuminated by the candlelight. I was 'on top of the world' (dead reference intended). If you google the song 'Fire on the Mountain' from the NYE show in 1977 on Youtube and at the conclusion of the song (7:20 or so), the camera focuses on the Oroboros by the candle (as we hear Bobby waxing about 'technical difficulties'). It is an old black and white movie/video, but I did show that to my three sons to prove the old man's story was true. But the boys still rolled their collective eyes at me, but I am used to that.

    We walked out into the cool San Francisco early morning and drove through the fog back to Nebraska. Now fast forward to Madison, Wisconsin 2-3-78 and I made the road trip to catch the show. It was a killer night and the Dead were in fine form (second half was in DP 18). The 'Cold Rain and Snow' was thunderous and Phil's bass boomed out to shake that snow off the roof of the venue.

    The next morning before I left the hotel, I got a wild hair and called the front desk “Could I have Jerry Garcia’s room please” and the phone rang and Jerry answered! I said “Hey, I’m that guy that brought that dragon to the New Year’s show” and Garcia said “Meet you in the coffee shop in 20 minutes”. I couldn’t believe it what was happening but stumbled into the Madison Hotel coffee shop at the appointed time and looked around and saw Jerry Garcia seated at a table with a ravishingly beautiful raven-haired Gypsy woman.

    I walked over an introduced myself and ‘shook the hand, that shook the hand of PT Barnum and Charlie Chan’. Jerry beamed that smile and gestured for me to sit down. “Man, how did you fire that dragon, so that it didn’t explode in the kiln ?” Jerry asked me. I told him that I had cut it in half lengthwise with a guitar string (that a friend had given me) and then put it back together. We locked eyes and he exploded with laughter and I followed with “Ironic, huh?” And he said “No, not at all, that makes perfect sense.” And we laughed some more. Then the Gypsy Beauty said “where are you from” and I replied Nebraska. And she stared at Jerry and stated “He came all the way up here from Nebraska to see the band”. Jerry shrugged his shoulders and raised his eyebrows and said “we didn’t ask him to come” and looked at me and we both howled with laugher. No deadhead was she!

    We talked more about art and the dragon, I didn’t know at that time of Garcia’s interest and practice in art. He was completely engaged in the topic of art, but quick witted with ‘turn on a dime’ twists, turns, and little quips. (Sound familiar to a band we know/love) Garcia was so focused on listening, not acting like he was the center of it all. He was locked in on taking time with me and talking about our shared interests, along with side commentaries on a variety of topics. The Gypsy woman asked “You went out to San Francisco and then traveled here?” and I stated yes and turned to Jerry and asked why don’t you come back to Lincoln? He said “you mean to Perishing Auditorium?” and I corrected him “no it is Pershing Auditorium, after the General” and he quickly retorted “no man, it was Perishing, really.” And we erupted in laughter again. There were some drunk frat boys yelling ‘boogie” at the top of their lungs at that ’73 Lincoln show, but the music was still topnotch! Anyway, I asked Garcia “could you bring your Circus back to Nebraska?” and Jerry grinned his Cheshire cat grin and said “who knows”.

    I saw it was time for me to leave them to eat as their breakfast arrived and excused myself and took off. Jerry brought the Dead back to Nebraska, that summer on 7-5-78. I taped them on my Nak 550 (my best aud tape of all) and then I had to follow them to their (and my) first Red Rocks shows.

    So that is my story of that time in space (or space in time). Garcia was totally a gracious, engaging, and kind man to this DeadHead who approached him for a moment in time. So to make a long story short (which I am constitutionally incapable) Jerry was focused on what he could learn, not what he could teach, on humor/laughter and valuing another person and really listening to their experience. He was so inquisitive, asking questions and then sharing his own thoughts. I have often thought about that lesson he taught me that cold Wisconsin morning. And for the rest of my life.

    Apologies for the thread hijack, so everyone can return to your regularly scheduled programming.

    Teachers open the door, but we must enter by ourselves

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    Is the worst. I’ve had it for years.

    Melatonin will help you temporally but it wears off after a short period of time as your body acclimates to it. Chamomile tea is mildly effective. Of course the best remedy is a couple of shots of bourbon.

    I’ll reuse an old joke and tell you to put on some Dead and Company. You’ll be asleep instantly.

    In all honesty it sounds like you might have something else going on there with your legs. Probably worth going to get checked out by a doctor.

    Good luck.

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    Proudfoot - Everyone has a remedy for insomnia, here is mine, and you’re right, insomnia sucks. There is some science to the “478” Rule, which works for folks with insomnia, or anxiety. Breathe in deeply through the nose for 4 seconds, and hold it for 7 seconds, then exhale deeply through your mouth for 8 seconds. Repeat. Studies have shown lower blood pressure and reduces heart rate, leading to greater relaxation. I’ve tried it myself, with success. Good luck.

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    Insomnia bites

    Hard.

    Lie down CANT SLEEP TWITCHY LEGS CANT BREATHE
    Get up sit there DROWSY AF think I will lie down
    Repeat

    Ever since fookin' Covid

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    Loving #45. Starting 2nd set, 1st show now. Great music. I was a 1-3 show/year person beginning in the early 70's, and I got to wondering if I ever caught a '77 show. My only one was in Bloomington, IN on the IU campus on 10/30. I always wondered why they never returned to do another show there.
    Also, I read a lot of chatter here about an Ark box. Curious if anyone here ever attended a show at the Ark, or is this just an urban legend of a great venue. Lots of places I would have loved to have seen a show but never got the opportunity (Labor Temple, Electric Circus, Thelma, to name just a few).
    I've never heard a bad Passenger, either live or on CD.....really allows Jerry to make that guitar scream.
    I love all the DaPicks, because I prefer full shows. That was my issue with Dick's Picks is that you rarely, if ever, got a full show. And I loved the Road Trips series, even though I got in on that party too late and only have 2 (Big Rock Pow Wow and Valentine's Day), and those are full shows.

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    Norman is a genius....

    ....as is Betty. As is the best band in the land. Hit the spot. Can't go wrong with Drumz -> The Wheel imo.
    Onto some Doors. People ARE Strange indeed. Especially these daze lol.
    10.1 this weekend.

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    Holy mackerel

    That DITS jam is sweet as honey. Eyes too. A spliff is needed for that dancing jam.

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    ....gonna start with 10.2.
    Checked out the following show in Phoenix off and on at work earlier. Good shit.
    Edit....check out Donna on Duprees 💎 Blues. Very nice.

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What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Just received my package with the Portland Shows.
I eventually paid (in France) like 15 bucks, and it ’s my own fault because I would have paid half on line. Wallet is the best place to learn.
Some of you heard this story: In heaven French do the cooking, the policemen are English, German organize everything and Italian do the entertainment.
In hell English do the cooking, the policemen are French, Italian organize everything, German do the entertainment and …Swiss do the shipping.
Anyway collecting dead shows is no more a merry prankster thing.

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Never enough 77.
(whispers)
Never...

Though more of the under-represented years would be nice (if the PB&J are listening).

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Harem Scarem. RGM reissue from 1991, never been on vinyl.
Never heard of them. Any thoughts?
Some connection with this album and a TV show.
Cheers, eh?

RV3's new series of releases "Brent's Picks"?

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March & December, still some good music left.

Sheik- I like that line about how the English do the cooking in hell. They could also manage the railways and decide what the drug laws should be.

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The Dutch would be responsible for administration.

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Winterland 77 March/December would be a nice haul for sure.
Likewise the remaining Palladium 77 run.
A do-over 5/22 full show release would be swell as well.

Also, an October 74 Winterland box.

Also...

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10/9 and 10/10 would make a nice two-fer. Great auds of both days available on the Archive.

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In the last 15-16 months, 9 Brent shows have been released.
MSG Box
DaP 40, 44

2 more shows with DaP 36.
And the Giants Stadium Box a few years ago.

There is no shortage of Brent releases.

There is a shortage of Bruce releases.

There is a shortage of video releases.

Edit:
The View From The Vault Series gave us some Bruce plus video.

Dave/Rhino,
Time for more video.
Thanks for 6-17-91 on Blu-ray, but don’t stop there.

We need all the video from:
Oct. 74, Oct. 80, European tours, Alpine 89, Tinley Park 90.

Then some selections from 91 starting with Soldier Field.

Thanks in advance.

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without a shipping issue, I’ve had to endure two debacles in a row.

So DaP45 finally arrived today. I have been listening to it all evening.

Remember the scene in the movie Big where all the executives and Josh (Tom Hanks) are meeting to evaluate the merits of the new company toy. At the end of the discussion Josh meekly raises his hand and says, “I don’t get it.”

That’s how I feel about this release.

....I'm not going to mention any names, but how about some 1991-1995?
Guess most of them wouldn't cut the mustard, but I saw plenty of shows then, and I recall some being pretty damn good.
A Vegas Box would be much welcome.
Throw in some dice and playing cards. Limited to seven come eleven of course.
One can hope!
The Sphere is being lit up btw. Test runs.
Edit....what don't you get AJS? Why it was released at all? 🤔
I'm open to a discourse.

Ha...

I have mine but have not had the opportunity to listen. I reserve the right to resurrect my view on 1977 GD upon my listen. 77 shows remind me of my supermodel ex-girlfriend. Practically perfect yet somehow not altogether satisfying.

I'm sure it's absolutely killer. First world problems to be sure.

As you were.

Edit: I really have nothing against '77 GD. When I am in the mood it does magic.

Saw a few really solid shows between 91-95, with 10/19/94 at MSG being one of the best.

Was psyched that they released the Feels Like>Bertha from that show as part of this year’s 30 Daze line up.

The 10/1/94 Boston gig they included in the 30 trips box is also pretty fab.

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Sir James probably summed it up best. It’s oddly unsatisfying.

There’s nothing bad about it, but there’s also nothing overly exciting about it. I thought that even the sound quality was just average.

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I'd simply like more '68, '69 and '70.

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A live concert can be enjoyed at the time of being there, but that doesn't mean it would make a satisfying recording.
Actually, that applies to releases from all eras, from all bands. But it was posts from people who enjoyed Dead shows between 91-95, and suggested some of those be released that reminded me of the fact.

It works the other way round, too. Some live shows I have been to I haven't enjoyed - but listening to recordings of them later, I realised they were better than I thought they'd been. Even Jerry commented on this phenomena- I think it's in The Dead Movie he recalls not liking their performance on 2/14/68 and throwing Phil down some stairs as a response. He listened to them later, and found them to be... "crackling with energy" I think was the phrase.

From my vast experience of going to Dead shows, I would say there was hardly any relation between being there and listening to live recordings.

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"in Hell": this story is very "cliché". I heard it on a richard Thompson Dvd, maybe 2000 years of pop music...
Yesterday I was a bit annoyed cause I spent time on the phone and car to get this package. Things have changed since the elephant administration...4 or 5 years ago? I felt like paying tax for a boxset for two shows.

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it depends of the mood you are in. But most of gd recordings are great, even the 82 cassettes. (dickP32)
If you listen Dylan 's fragments bootleg series vol 17, you can measure the greatness of gd recordings. I had to listen live cd4 more times to appreciate, but there's nothing like the other studio takes. the Dead has built the best show catalogue of all time.

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Hey rockers.............

My parents used to say, "If you can't say anything good about something, don't say anything at all". That's why I'm here not saying anything about anything...................

Portland? Don't get the buzz about all that, but we got our annual 77 so let's move on. But not on to 91-95. Some February 1973 would hit the spot...........

Heaven is my current wife, hell is my ex-wife, purgatory is alimony.............

Rock on,

Doc
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Dead releases are like Texas weather, don't like it, wait, it'll change.

There is something for everyone, but everyone won't like everything.

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What the World needs now is Love as true today as the day he wrote it.
Via Con Dios so many tunes from out yesterdays

Lurking lately, now catching up again after last weekends deep deep freeze here in Vermont. Live about 50 air miles from Mount Washington and was paying close attention to the extreme weather, cause there's new plumbing in my unheated, fortunately below grade marginally insulated basement. It was 21 below zero last Saturday morning with 35 mph gusts that night, very happy to be earth sheltered. But all that pales infinitesimally to the tragic situation in Turkey. So though #45 was here, was not in the mood to begin paying attention until now, have not yet completed a first run. First impression was very good to excellent recording, Donna in a good place, agreed it seems a bit drum forward, seems to be slight emphasis on mid bass such there is slight percussive effect not noticed on most other recordings. This is a very minor observation. Glad to have these shows tidied up, good fun, obviously not peak 77. Easily distracted by other posts, totally agree with Oro that when the Dead went to Macintosh power amps, audio was cleaned up by a factor or at least 10X... love those old Fender tube amps when they are run right but there was tube abuse, those 6L6s, EL84s etc output tubes pushed so hard, ran so hot, their distortion figures must have been above the 1-2% range. Now to video, though the VftV series is here along with other commercially released vids, had never thought to look for the June 21, 1971 Chateau d'Herouville show and was pleased to find it this morning on utu be. House party on the lawn. Bit rough and raw, hand held cameras, for such a location, the audio is good and there's an excellent Hard to Handle, pig in fine form. Worth checking out.

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50 years ago today I wasn't at Maples Pavilion up in Palo Alto. ( I'm sure I was doing something that was just as fun), but my brother was there and he had a blast!. This show would make a great release.

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when Doc and Dennis just handled it all.

Except, what about Jer on Disc One?? He's ripping!

Haven't spun the shows yet. Just dipped toe. More toes tonight.

Arrived this morning. Good to see it in the flesh, as it were, after having looked at it's picture so many times on the board. I have only played the 1st cd, and I did enjoy it - crisp and clear with plenty of energy. It's neither more nor less than I was expecting really. Possibly a bit more. One of the benefits of reading negative reviews is that it lowers the bar a bit, so that when I do get to hear the offending show, it sounds better than I was expecting. When everyone praises a show it sometimes gives it too much to live up to. And when I do eventually get round to listening to one of those, I can then think that it's not as good as everyone says it is.

Curiously the "Promised Land "-"They Love Each Other" openers appear to be soundboard recordings on my old bootleg. The Promised Land suddenly cuts out after a minute, though.

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I have absolutely no idea how May '77 Cornell became so revered. It sounds/plays like the least interesting show in that run. Real good show. No standout.

Just two cents to augment what daverock said.

From what I've heard so far, I'm going to really enjoy the new pick and not worry how it might be assessed by others. As for ranking shows, I don't have the brain cells to spare.

Most likely because it was the first high-quality soundboard recording that was widely available to the masses. It got everybody hooked. Thank you Betty.

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This part. Exactly.

First tape I ever owned.

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Yes, this time Dave's Picks arrived in Växjö in less than two weeks!

Got it yesterday, on February 8th, and listen right now to the second CD (second set from October 1st). Good music even though shows from 1977 seems to be a little over-done by now.

I would appreciate more bits and pieces from fall 1966 to 1970 and maybe not as a Dave's Picks volume, I would appreciate a release of June 9-10, 1973.
I have a framed poster above my stereo / TV furniture with a photo of Weir, Lesh and Garcia from one of those shows. Bought it in San Francisco in August or September 1986 and have had it on different walls since I got home to Sweden again. The show from June 10 was one of my first tapes I recieved early in 1985 after having a tape traders ad in the last issue of The Golden Road fanzine in 1984.
But I would prefer something much more superior in sound quality by now. :-)

Well, anyway I'm pleased and grateful for a delivery faster than the seven or eight weeks I normally have to wait for a new DP volume! :-)

Micke Östlund,
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Just for the record, I've only ever had one....................

In regards to Cornell, it was definitely NOT one of the first high quality boards available to the masses. That's a myth, there were lots of other high quality things----including early stuff. That being said, it WAS one of the first high quality 77s to enter wide circulation. But as many more 77s came out---including the shows right before and right after----some of the luster came off Cornell.

I think Cornell is similar to Veneta---it's one of those "you had to be there" types of things. And, like Veneta, good show, but one of the great great overrated Grateful Dead shows.

Just one man's opinion.......

Rock on,

Doc
He who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead; his eyes are closed......

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Does anyone else hear a muffled voice, like someone on a phone or behind glass say "He's just talking to 1A, come on back." during Black Peter, right at 6:45? Did it come from the disc, or did my computer pick up a nearby call or something.

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Who cares? It either moves you or it doesn't. If it moves you listen again, if it doesn't then move on to something that does. I like some of these picks more than others, but I want them all. I don't have any list of desired releases, and although I love to see shows that I attended released, they are not necessarily the releases that I go back to most often. Really, I just want shows with good sound quality, songs presented in order, and beyond that it is all subjective. One person's good release is another's ho-hum release, which is pretty clear from this thread. I like to listen to a wide variety of music, with a good chunk of it Dead, but there is so much music to listen to, and my enjoyment depends not a bit on how folks rank it.

Burt Bacharach had a ton of great stuff, including some fantastic stuff covered by Isaac Hayes that really hits the spot - Walk on By from Hot Buttered Soul, The Look of Love from ...To Be Continued, and They Long to Be from the classic Black Moses album, some really classic stuff best played a little loud on a good system. Or maybe a lot loud.

Yes, I've just heard it on "Black Peter" too. I think this show, 10/1, is pretty good overall. Some great guitar playing throughout.
I wonder also if shows like Cornell and Veneta gained a reputation because of strongly expressed and publicised opinions affirming their superiority in earlier times. And those opinions became reinforced by others until they became perceived as fact. John Dwork wrote pages and pages about Veneta in The Taping Compendium, whereas some shows on the European tour were summed up in a few paragraphs. Granted, they may not have had the full tapes for some of the European shows, but the impression given is that Veneta is the greatest show of the year - if not of all time. Maybe articles like that, blow shows..like that...out of all proportion.

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Oh, it's there on the disc. It freaked me out when I first heard it in my car zoned in on the commute to work!

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This release to me felt like an old broke in pair of jeans the first time I listened to it. It feels comfortable and makes me feel good. I've listened to it all four or five times now, minus Let it Grow and Cassidy which I generally just do not care for. Bah! Humbug! How dare he.

I have a Nash T52 Telecaster which arrived, brand new, heavily relic'd. I liken this release to it. The guitar played like butter right out of the box like an old friend I just met. I had never heard this show before, but it's what, 46 years old? Older is usually better with cars, wine, whisky, guitars, Dead shows. Hell, my wife is 50 and I wouldn't even trade her for a 20 year old. ;-p

Just a matter of taste I guess. Love this release and can't wait for the next one.

Peace everyone... well, almost.

\m/

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Ho
Lee
Phuc

I give up on y'all

I really gotta quit coming to these posting thingies....

Cornell

Great sound and the greatest orgasmic Morning Dew of all time

"You told me goodbye
How was I to know
You didnt mean goodbye
You meant please
Dont let me go"

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....I like the '83 Santa Fe shows. Like. A lot. Definitely whatever rated lol.
I'm just here hoping for a Dave's that is numbered under four digits. One day.
And LedDed. I wouldn't trade my 50+ year old wife for a 20 year old either.
She's hotter and smarter anyways.

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Hey, Nineteen
No, we got nothing in common
No, we can't dance together
No, we can't talk at all
Please take me along, when you slide on down

Yngwie Malmsteen - Relentless
The Flaming Lips - At War With The Mystics
GD - 10.2.77 Portland, OR
The Cult - Love
Deep Purple - Deep Purple In Rock
List works imo....

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....Yo La Tengo just dropped a record. Like, forty minutes ago.
Yessssss

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It always strikes me as ludicrous when people think they have nothing in common with others who disagree with them. The commonality lies in the fact that people understand each other, not that they agree. If I told my neighbour that I thought Veneta or Cornell were overrated, she would neither know nor care what I was talking about. If I said the same thing on here - I'm not assuming anyone would care - but at least a lot of people would understand what I was saying. Whether anyone agreed or not would be interesting to me - but not divisive.

Ledded - that Nash tele sounds alright. I wouldn't mind seeing a picture of that.

I am sure the 50 year old wives find it reassuring that they wouldn't be swopped for 20 years olds. What about when they are 60, though? With a 30 year old ?

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