Grateful Dead

Found a used copy on Amazon,,, 20 bucks!

What the hell.

Forecast: You Will Enjoy It!

No? Well somebody shoulda.

Herbie Hancock is to me one of the great geniuses of American music. Everything he did is worth a listen, and a lot of it is as Good As It Gets. All the stuff he did with Miles, and all the albums he made for Blue Note are stone classics. But my absolute favorite period from him is the Mwandishi stuff: ie, the period when HH was calling himself Mwandishi and (perhaps not coincidentally) rumored to be consuming mass quantities of LSD). He kept the same band together for a few years (Bennie Maupin, Eddie Henderson, Julian Priester, Buster Williams, and Billy Hart), touring the world and blowing minds, before he finally ran out of money and had to go a more commercial (though still great) direction with Chameleon.

Official albums include Crossings, Mwandishi, and Sextant, which are quite literally the bridge between the fusion-y free jazz of the late '60 and the straight up funk of Chameleon. There's a few live boots out there that are pretty good, too. (As well as Fat Albert Rotunda, a soul jazz record with mostly the same personnel that's not bad.) If you are the kind of Head who enjoys a good 30 minute Dark Star, you want to check the Mwandishi out sometime.

You guys and gals just continue to floor me. I know there’s a lot of non-Dead discussion here but my God. It’s just so fantastic!!
THATMIKE-I have about 20 Cannonball discs, including the one you so kindly recommended. I generally prefer live stuff-Cannon is SO generous & descriptive with his introductions and banter. I especially like the 66-71 period. Which ties into the one Cannonball album I have not found on cd. Experience in E. I have a 2-disc compilation that has both songs off side 2 of that album, but none with side one, the 20 minute version of Experience in E. Anyone have or seen this on cd?? It comes up because that song (a Zawinul composition of course) is the 3rd track disc 1 of Forecast: Tomorrow. This and 2 other Weather Report compilations are prizes of my WR collection. A 2-disc set called “Live and Rare” (I believe) and a 4-disc set of live stuff from ‘78-‘81, mind blowing stuff!!
Mwandishi you say?? There was a 3-disc box called The Warner Brothers Years (again, I think that’s the title) that has Fat Albert Rotunda, Mwandishi & Crossings. Also great.
So what did all that inspire me to play??
Miles Davis Black Beauty!! Again, truly mind blowing stuff (Chick Corea setting the keys ablaze!!).
One last thing I want to add, for those of you with the high end stereo/sound systems. My favorite album of the Century (so far) is just chock-a-block full of amazing/interesting/ head spinning things in the stereo spectrum that I would be shocked if most (all??) of you wouldn’t enjoy. It’s not jammy, instrumental, weirdness, but I play this more than once a year. I recently had a co-worker ask me an interesting question:”what one album would you tell EVERYONE you know that they need to hear??” I thought for a bit, and came up with Iron And Wine “The Shepherd’s Dog”, which I have just played another 5 times in the last 3 days. I’m sure it may not be for everyone, but it’s one I brought to a friend’s house 4-5 years ago to show off his mucho-expensive sound gear. Even your wives may love this. So, I stake my (non-existent) reputation on this one. Feedback (good or bad) is welcome.

After Miles, I’m putting on Herbie’s Sextant album!! You all are the best!! (after music, of course) 😃

Mr Ones - I have both those Weather Report live collections, too, and they are incredible. If you want some great reading on WR, Pete Erskine wrote a great bio on the band from the drummer’s seat, especially in their heyday, called “ No Beethoven: Autobiography & Chronicle of Weather Report”, and an even better book came out about a year ago called “Elegant People”. Fascinating read, and a deep dive on their recorded works. A fantastic band I never tire of hearing.
As for Miles, he made so many great recordings from the Fillmores, and Black Beauty smokes. A stripped down electric live band, Chick is very prominent on this recording. I think Miles is my top jazz pick, his whole career, but I’m endlessly fascinated by his electric bands and recordings.
I still think how amazing Bill Graham was - genius, really - with some of his billing lineups, mixing different sounds or genres, but Miles Davis & the Dead on the same bill - Wow. Just wow.

As Mr Ones says,,,, this is one of the reasons I come here. Talk about other music.

Thanks Crow for pointing out the Herbie Hancock stuff. Turned out I have most of the stuff mentioned. Listened to "You'll Know When You Get There". What hit me most on first go round was the quality of the recording.

Found I did have a chunk of Iron and Wine which included Sheppard's Dog. What hit me on first go round was how the recording did not compare with Herbie. Recording levels too high? Little muddy to my ears. Could be my copy of course.

Cannonball's Experience in E,,,, I have a live copy off "Live at Pleyid 69",,,, it's only 14 minutes long.

Deadheads, what a musical bunch!

Have any of you fine folks seen him in concert? If so, any thoughts.

I understand that he is very good, but seems to have tailed off a bit more recently.

Thanks.

Venus and Jupiter in the western sky

:)))

AJS - I saw Elvis open for Dylan one time, in Syracuse. He played solo - no band, just an acoustic guitar, but my memory was that he was really entertaining.

Dennis - I am with you - the folks on this site are first rate musical fans, and plugged in to some really great musical tastes, and I enjoy reading - and occasionally buying - the recommendations. It is not surprising, given our common admiration for the Grateful Dead, who could play it all. You often hear of this “Great American Songbook”, which is the recognized mainstays by Gershwin, etc, but to me, the term Great American Songbook applies equally to the Dead canon. They distilled so many influences and styles into their songs, and created music we are still raving about 28 years after they last played collectively .
Remarkable.

Ha, ya got me lol.
I didn’t see AJS post, just “Elvis opened for Dylan”, like whaaa??
Imagine that!

Big ole howdy do to Great North Mikey.
Thanks to you and all the hep cats here with this fine jazz talk.
Still digging what Santa brought, but it’ll be time soon to go back to the well, so now I have more groovy intel…
Shanks All!

EDIT: captcha cheats! Asked for cars but was showing big vans, which captcha insisted was cars, Doah
The Convergence is eminent…

There you are Amigo! Your mother and I have been worried sick!
Seriously, I hope all is well. Because one of my kids is getting married this year, and we are planning to move, I’ve not been buying very much at all, just enjoying the collection. But I feel the levee is not going to hold much longer…! I see Mick Taylor playing on a new Ron Wood tribute album to Jimmy Reed. Larry Campbell has a release. A new Dave’s is being cued up….

Mike - Thanks for the feedback. The last time I saw Elvis, he joined the Cowboy Junkies on stage for a rendition of "Blue Moon." Not really, of course.

Congratulations on getting Austin Matthews back. I am counting on you to take out the Bruins. Now that the warmer weather is almost upon us, I will follow the NHL a bit more closely. Nice win by the Jets last night over the Rangers.

Being an avid hockey fan, I have another question for you. Do you prefer the white or red Red Wings jersey? Please don't be offended. I wore a Maple Leafs jersey during my entire scrub hockey career. The reason I ask is that I am in the market for a new rollerblading jersey. I wore my Reggie Dunlop jersey last week and everyone thought I was a Kansas City fan.

Hey Jack - always great to have Auston back in uniform. As for beating the Bruins, the Leafs have to get by Tampa first, and…well…time to buff up the golf clubs. Jerry always said the Dead would blow the “big” shows - Woodstock, etc - well the Leafs fold like a pup tent on Everest when the playoffs start.

As for uniforms, I’ve always said there are only 2 in the NHL - Chicago’s jersey, and everyone else’s!!

My DaP 45 has two tiny skips at the end of the encore.
Oh well, no big. The rest is fine.
Cheers

Both DaP 45 and DaP 23 Vinyl still around.
Alvar may be right. There are other Dave's that may have done better. But the series in vinyl is young and there's room for many more releases.

Time too short for me to delve into jazz talk, trying to head south again before a big snow. However the Herbie conversation has me thinking back in the day when Herbie rocked my world with his work with Miles and his album Head Hunters. And the mentions of Weather Report as well, fan of Jaco. There's a semi obscure recording by Airto Moreira must mention, and for those who want to see how good their victrola is, Airto Moreira and the Gods of Jazz, Killer Bees. Check out who is jamming with Airto and the rather incredible audio tracks to be found there. Not something you might listen to often, well worthy of a journey.

My apologies for the misspelling. You can blame auto correct for that one.

Totally agree on the Blackhawks jersey. The greatest jersey in all of sports. Not even close. I already own two of them, just in case one breaks. Or if the politically correct people make them change it.

I held off on the Leaf jokes simply because the playoffs haven’t started yet. But, I do appreciate your candor.

Jack - I’m laughing at the politically correct comment!! Best. Jersey. Ever.

DMCVT - Thanks for the heads up on the Killer Bees. Quite an impressive lineup playing on this release. I’ll watch for an available copy.

Mr. Straw, I saw Elvis a handful of times from 1982-1990ish. And most relevant, I saw him last Summer in Virginia. He and his band are (still) great!! A monster band.
And I am sick of this “Elvis has lost it and can’t sing anymore” crap. Folks, it’s been 45 years!! Of course his voice has deepened some, and like most everyone else, doesn’t have the range of yore, but he still sounds great!! His voice is an instrument and he is a true artist. I’ll take Elvis’ pure adrenalized vigor over any honey-voiced boring ass crooner (Michael Buble or Josh Groban anyone??).

I may even see Elvis again this summer, if my money situation loosens up a bit.

Music is the Best!!

....currently playing the Golden Knights.
Little Feat announced their tour. Playing Vegas in August with The Dirty Dozen Brass Band at The Smith Center, which I thought odd, because that venue is more of a Broadway type show setting. Oh well. Not complaining.
Edit.....Chicago won in a shoot out. All my homies hate shootouts.

Amazing Quicksilver Messenger Service show from 12/28/75 I came across on youtube last night. I assumed they'd well and truly lost their mojo by then, but this is great. Both Gary Duncan and John Cippollina are present and in tremendous form. Gary Duncan sings a few songs as well, which is handy in keeping Dino Valenti out of the spotlight for a bit. Even Dino's whiny vocals don't pall quite as much by the end of the show-about 1hour 34 minutes in all. Top stuff - really good sound too.

Strange coincidence - listening to Quicksilver 07 for the first time in years - a live instrumental album showcasing Gary Duncan - I notice that there are two versions of Herbie Hancock's Maiden Voyage on it. Very underrated guitarist, Gary Duncan.

Nice heads up. I downloaded the show from u tube.

FYI - found a new program for pulling stuff off the tube for free.

YtMp3 - YouTube to MP3 Converter --- I think it will down the video , but I never download video (almost). Gets me a mp3 cut of tube at a 128 level. Maybe if you pay you can get a 320 level,,, don't know,,, I'm cheap.

But I did order the complete Doonesbury strips on a memory stick!

Dennis - it was free to me when I watched it last night. I got me a "smart telly" last October, and I'm still finding what it does that a dumb telly can't do. Youtube, by the looks of things. I'm going to have a poke around, and see what else I can dig out off the radar. The only Dead I've watched is an excerpt of them arriving in England in May 1970, and then at the festival. Not much music - a Bob Weir interview. I think this was in the "Long Strange Trip" film, but I hadn't seen it before.

....yup. It's snowing in Vegas.

for Ventura and LA mountains. That is crazy. First time since 89.

If you see this, thanks for the 12/31/81 pick. I plan to watch again in the next week or two. Good stuff...

Never knew Bootsy was so recognized. Thanks for all the great discussion. Absolutely awesome! I do need to go read some more though. Seeing Parliament Funkadelic in 1978, I think, was freaking incredible.

Any other funksters out there? Try some Ohio Players, most know things like Fire and Love RollerCoaster. Try looking up "Far East Mississippi". Saw Ohio Players play that one. Can't remember, did they open for p-funk?

G

I love the episode when Tony took peyote buttons with some hot chick in the desert. I'm sure someone on here saw that episode.

DAVEROCK, I’m surprised to learn that there is a good QMS show from 1975. I will look it up and listen. Thanks for the tip.
Waiting to see your feedback from #45. Did I miss it already??

Mr Ones - I was a bit surprised myself. Apparently they re-grouped briefly to promote the reunion album "Solid Silver"-which I've never heard. Another good clip of late period Quicksilver is a live 19 minute version of "Who Do You Love" from 12/1/73. Good sound, but terrible picture. They seem to have a ghost dancing on stage with them during this one.
I really enjoyed Dave's 45 - both shows. The final cd is the one...but first sets always seem good to me from around this time, too. To be honest, it was a couple of weeks since I played it, and I've forgotten the details ! But I know I liked it all and I'm glad I got it. I would say they are a good couple of shows from the timespan.

My buddy feeds me all the D&C shows, he missed out on 1/14/23.

Anyone get a copy they're willing to share or trade for?

I'm surprised this one hasn't sold out yet. Usually, a Dave's Picks sells out in hours or a day or 2.

Thanks, got two different versions of Who Do You Love,,,,, one at 19 minutes and one at 27 minutes.

Both recordings sound alright.

There is a cool clip of Quicksilver playing Mona 8/15/69 at Sonoma State College. Also the cool video from Monterey Pop Festival, which you probably have seen. When Little Walter came out here in 1966 Quicksilver backed him at the Matrix Club. They brought Pig Pen over to hang out with him since Pig Pen was a drinker, they felt that they would get along.

This got mentioned to me the other day. I downloaded 3 shows off the archive.

They sound ok, worth checking.

Billy - thanks for the tips -I'll check those out later. I never knew about Quicksilver backing Little Walter. I have noticed that there is an album called "Live at the Old Mill Tavern 3/29/70" on which they jam for about 20 minutes with James Cotton. The reviews of the album I have read say that is the best part of the show. This is the version of the band with Nicky Hopkins, as well as the two dynamite guitarists, so it should be worth hearing.

On the little system today as the big one sounds muddy lately.
Crikey! There's a rabbit hole waiting to happen.
DR's review pretty spot on. 4th disc has it going on. Love the pace.
Just two great solid shows. Maybe not monumental but good clean fun.
Sound is excellent despite my previously mentioned issue with the bass on 10-1.
Going to keep this in the on deck circle for another listen in a month or so.
Cheers

Need more Quicksilver. Happy Trails LP is all I've got. Has that live Fillmore Who Do You Love and that great western cover art.
Edit: Just cranked that Happy Trails LP on the big system and it sounded great! Very clean LP and no lack of clarity. That rabbit hole is just some little devil on my shoulder saying you need an expensive CD player.

Oneshow - my favourite live Quicksilver album was recorded at the Fillmore on the above date. It has been released numerous times - the best cd version I have is a double, on the Purple Pyramid Records label. It was played about 5 months before the "Happy Trails" live sections, and features 3 of the same songs, plus 5 from the first album ( also worth getting) and 4 covers. It's higher energy than " Happy Trails" - quite a different feel to it. It hasn't got perfect sound quality - but it's easily good enough to my ears. One of the best live albums by anybody that I've ever heard.

I first got an incomplete version of it on vinyl, about 1983, on an album called "Maiden of the Cancer Moon". That sounds good - but it's not all there.
The worst version I have is on the " Lost Gold and Silver" double cd that came out about 20 years ago.

Thank you for the feedback on Elvis. I’m debating on whether not to go see him and your feedback likely convinced me to do so.

Gary - glad you enjoyed 12/31/81. I don’t contribute much content of substance on this site, so I’m glad to help out where I can.

....Elvis Costello was at the Wigan '72 show. And so was Joe Strummer.
Or at least that's what my search engine told me.
That show was what made Costello want to form a band. And the rest is history.
Ok. Time for some Clash. Thinking Sandanista, because there are two records.

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Good to see you still like music.

Vguy,

Were you planning to enjoy Sandinista on vinyl? You get to listen to three discs worth. Enjoy......

Apologies - I got your name wrong yesterday. I also seem to have gone on a bit. Quite surprising sometimes, looking back on what you posted the previous day.

No worries. I thought it a new nickname.
Cheers
That Happy Trails LP is an original Capitol Records issue and of strikingly good sound quality. Not a scratch on it. And it's heavy, maybe not 180 gram but close. I'm sure I got it at a thrift store or library sale for next to nothing. One can do vinyl affordably if you keep your eyes open and aren't too picky.

It's very odd that #45 has not sold out??? Every other Dave Picks has sold out certainly within a week, most of the time within a few days at the most....Dave Picks #45 has been for sale now for approx. 6-weeks. It seems a little odd and/or weird...also, why was the setlist(s) never listed on the sale?? Every other show, in fact, every other release on dead.net has complete info with obviously full show setlists details??

Anyway, maybe there is a reason?.....my guess is people have had enough of this series specifically from: 1972, 1974, and 1977. Simply put, it's time to concentrate this series on the 1980s & 1991

Right?
The countless hours I've lost sleep wondering why -- WHY?!?!
DaP 45 should have sold out.
SHOULD have but hasn't!
Is it proof of something?
Does it validate an unsatisfied demand?!?!
Will certain voices finally -- FINALLY -- be heard and sated once and for all?
Only the future knows.

That said, been spinning a lot of 76 lately. Rediscovered how good Dick's Picks 33 really is.

SOLD OUT I too can only surmise that a message is being sent here, lay off the 70's and either go to the 60's or venture to the 80's & the 90's. With that being said I'd predict that if 9/19/70 or 2/9/73 were give the full Norman either one would sell out quickly. I'm still waiting patiently for 12/1/79 to be set free from the vault. Like I said before on this forum we are due for a stand alone release I say Bear's Choice Volume 2 would be a great choice for 2023 just a one CD release is all I'm asking for.

I'm wondering if my vinyl "Happy Trails" is an original. I bought it waaaay back - about 1974, but looking on Discogs, I think even then it was a reissue. I'm not sure - it was probably in the record shop a year or two before I happened on it. But it also feels quite weighty. I've noticed with my old albums that they all seem quite substantial-up to about 1975, I guess when cassettes came in, and they started making quite flimsy records. Maybe there was a sudden shortage of vinyl or something. "Happy Trails" also has one of the all time great covers.

Re Bears Choice Vol 2 - I played the final cd of Dicks Picks 4 last night, the late show from 2/14/70, I believe. I tend to overlook this a bit, as it follows on from the more celebrated 2/13. But it's a great set in it's own right.

Hey rockers!!

All just one man's opinion...........

It may not be a "70s in general" issue, it may be a "1977 specifically" issue. There's been a lot of 1977 shows released, maybe people are oversaturated? Some folks may also be holding back dollars waiting for this year's box set. And, there's been a lot of other non-Dead music released recently, also competing for our dollars. That being said, I think releases from 1970 and 72-74 would still sell out quickly.

I could go for some 84-85 releases, but after that and into the 90s, I would probably pass............

All just one man's opinions......

Of all the logical impasses, unknowings, paradoxes, and terrors that provoke laughter, death by its finality and unsolvable mystery is paramount................

Rock on,

Doc
Until we accept the fact that life itself is founded in mystery, we shall learn nothing......

My Happy Trails has no year printed on it that I can find. Vol. 2 ST-120 call number with Capitol and EMI symbol. Rear of cover was pasted on a little crooked over the cover art which is folded over about a half inch onto the back. Printed in USA. Has the album designer's small logo "Globe Propaganda" on bottom left of cover art. Red label on LP.

Credits include thanks to many including Alton Kelly, one half of the famous Kelly Mouse. I remember an interview with him on David Gans GD Hour show that described he and Mouse working on the same drawing board at the same time. One being left handed and the other right. He said they were like a two headed monster. I think he came from Detroit and that monster automobile art vein like Big Daddy Ed Roth and Von Dutch (Kenny Howard).

I like the fine print giving their address as Hollywood and Vine streets, Hollywood , Calif. and the info for how to book the band; WESTPOLE, 54 Martha, San Francisco, Calif. 94131 - Tel. 415-333-9400. Yes, hello? Yes, I'd like to book Quicksilver Messenger Service for my son's bar mitzvah. What dates are available?

Cheers

What Doc said.