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    Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
    Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
    Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
    Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
    Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
    Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
    Artwork by Dave Van Patten
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

    “Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

    They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

    Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

    IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

    Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • Dennis
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    Mike & Edie

    original “It Girl” Edie Sedgwick,

    Sorry but I think you need to look at Clara Bow for the original "it" girl! :-)

  • Oroborous
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    “Aaaa, aaa, who wants a Fresca!”

    That’s the spirit Mike!
    Like my old departed Booze brother Keeko used to say, “ joke em if they can’t take a #$*(‘jfdg! “
    Fraternity, I like that, the Loyal Order of WaterBuffalo DH chapter.
    With special guests Anne Margrock and Jimmie Onielstone.

    Oooo, Sedgwick’s sound like fun lol. Something to get high and google ; )

    Now name that quote and “upon your deathbed you will receive divine continuousness”

  • dmcvt
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    this is exactly what its all about...

    excellent stories about people and music. Edie and Andy, yes, there's lots more dark, twisted and juicy stuff there. Now I have to go pull Mike Stern CDs out, he's been around, up and down, he can play mean and sweet. Good music for this afternoons thunderstorm. The ridiculous international shipping charges piss me off enough, no soup for me... have checked out these shows on the various resonant frequencies. This is far from the music company I returned to support 30 years ago, getting back on the bus with Dicks Picks, but at least they allow us this board to voice our thoughts.

  • That Mike
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    Oro

    (Blushing) You! You Oro! How can I say no?
    I guess you’re right, I can still stick around for that! It’s like a fraternity here, no matter where you live, we all attended Dead U, and humbly wear our Stealie colours proudly! Hell ya!
    Still, a big pox on The Man!

    Fun jazz fact I just learned: Jazz guitarist Mike Stern (who has some pretty decent solo releases, plus will be heard on the upcoming Miles Davis Bootleg Volume 7) is a something-something cousin to the infamous and original “It Girl” Edie Sedgwick, who made her bones as Andy Warhol’ s muse, and was Dylan’s supposed squeeze for awhile (“Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat” was written for her). The Sedgwicks, of course, including Kevin Bacon’s wife, are one very intriguing old New England family rife with money, suicide, mental breakdowns, drug and alcohol issues (see Edie), and general bad behaviour. It turns out Mike Stern’s father was a member of this ignominious family.

  • Oroborous
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    Say it ain’t so Mr Mike

    I get not paying exorbitant fees, but it sounds like your not going to hang with us anymore : (
    Just because one doesn’t buy the products, doesn’t mean ya can’t hang out and make us laugh and smile, and hey, where else will be a source for all things MacGyver; )
    I think I can speak for others and say that we truly hope you stick around!
    Two wrongs don’t make a right, so withholding your fine contributions is only making the unfortunate situation worse!
    Besides, who’s going to keep up with Angry Jack about in the know NHL info!
    Who’s going to be my personal Jazz concierge?
    So perhaps phuc the man, but not us ; )

    Amen DR!

  • That Mike
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    I feel for fellow posters in…

    I feel for fellow posters in European jurisdictions where VAT +++ comes in to play. Here in Canada, due to the USMC Free Trade Agreement (aka NAFTA 2), I thankfully don’t get the onerous duty fees and taxes on importing the box. However, I’ll still get stuck with a $70 USD delivery fee, and for my friends in the US who don’t have to concern themselves with converting their local currency into USD$$, the delivery charge becomes out of this world inflated. Ridiculous, too, because I’m a short drive to the border in a populous urban area, not an outback, and delivery speed from There To Here is beyond ridiculous due to…just sheer phucing laziness of the mail services. For $70, you’d expect it hand delivered with a smile and a tip of the cap.
    Anyway, I accept it for what it is. The international buyer is likely a very small percentage of the dead.not customer base, and let’s be honest, why would they care? There are lots of musical acts and artists in the sea.
    What I will miss most, however, are the great bunch of posters on this site, people I really would hit it off with well were we neighbours; a good bunch of folks.
    A pox on WB/Rhino/dead.not

  • Alan57
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    $70US

    For the person below the international postage charge is $70US.
    I calculated that for that amount I have had 18 different packages sent from Importcds the US to Australia in the past years including 5 box sets.
    I had 2 box sets weighing in total considerably more than Listen To The River sent from Germany to Australia for under $20US.
    This is a scam by someone but Dead.net don’t care.

  • daverock
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    It's a Box. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

    Oro-I think it's more a case of deadnet scaring me off. How much did you say those shipping costs were?!

  • Sydney Prentice
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    I will wait and see how big…

    I will wait and see how big a box set this and how heavy it weighs when I have received it and then work out the postage charges for shipping the same size package back,this will then be a fair estimation of if I have been overcharged.
    On the Discogs site for sometime now the increased postage charges have made it a no go for me at least when importing from the USA. The most painful part of all of this is the dreaded the import taxes that always increase, we need a UK based business to ease the pain of the postage and taxes.

  • simonrob
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    Shipping farce

    I imagine that dead.net don't give a shit if they lose all their international customers. They know exactly the percentage of international customers who subscribe to Dave's Picks for instance. It will be a very small number, almost certainly less than 5%. All Dave's Picks releases sell out within days. Without international customers they would probably take just a few days more to sell out. They wouldn't lose any revenue, not a cent. With box sets they may decide to produce a few percent less copies and increase the price by a few percent to offset the loss of international customers. Would US customers then stop buying the box sets? Would they even notice? Probably not, with no disrespect to our American friends. Rhino and dead.net exist to make money, not to be nice to people.

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

Hey August I've been spinning 9/20/82. The very beginning of Shakedown sounds like they're all tuning up and getting the mix, but then it settles in very nicely and the Shakedown has all players well balanced. Hot Shakedown>Mingle one-two. I just listened to the Scarlet>Fire last night and it is excellent also. I'm liking this box more and more.

Anyone still on the fence on this I would jump on this. If you like early 80's Dead, this will not disappoint. I love it. Such great variety and the sound quality to my ears is 5 dancing bears! Just fantastic. Revisited 3/9/81 and this show smokes. The first set Deep Elem Blues, Birdsong! So good. Second set China Rider and the Estimatesd UJB is what this band is all about. So glad they put this one out.
Only complaint, they didn't include the 79 MSG shows.

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Just ordered the vinyl copy of 3/9/81 from Experience Vinyl (125 bucks).

I'm guessing the Dead never released this on vinyl,,,, I don't have a copy in stock.!?

I lost a chunk of emails,,,, this order (in cd's) would have been in that chunk. I would have thought if it was available on vinyl I would have bought when I ordered the cd's.

But I can find NOTHING to show this has ever been released on vinyl.

Am I nuts or did I just spend more of my wife's hard earned money!

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Spinning 9/20/82 today and it's really hitting the spot! So much magic in this MSG box. It's been in reagular rotation since the day I recieved it. I really like how they switch things up with the multi night, muti year run from a particular venue.

Also, if you've been hesitant about getting this because of reading post about sound quality, era, or performance quality, don't listen!!! If you like early 80's Dead, wait no more!

I get not liking an era but it seems a lot of posters (not all) come out in immediate protest of anything post 78.

Anyway, if you like this era, I promise this box won't disappoint! and no, I don't know DL or work for Rhino.

Rock on, gang!

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In the past few weeks I've given the '82 and '83 shows a relisten and with each I had the same thought, "Oh geez, I forgot how much fun this one is! I've got to get on dead net and spread the word......"

But I'm a bit biased with towards post 70s GD. The ritualistic approach they kept with from '79 onward simply works and one I'll never tire of. Although, does fall into the whole, 'for those that understand no explanation is needed; for those that don't, none is possible'. Seems the majority of the people that really dig 80s and 90s Grateful Dead are those that saw them in that period. Makes sense.

Of the four shows, I'd say 10/12/83 stood out the most for me this time around. Because of the Help>Slip>Franklins. Has to be one of the better post '77 versions out there. Certainly one of the longest Slipknots from the 80s and 90s. Which is the part that counts most ; -)

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