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    Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.
     
    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

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  • Mr. Ones
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    Was just finishing up Leonard Bernstein & the NY Philharmonic’s recording of Holst’s The Planets while catching up on this thread.
    Neptune:The Mystic fades to an end, and now, thanks to you folks; I reached over about three feet to my right, Grabbed Dick’s 12, and am ready for Jam->China->MLB->Rider. Have not played this in a while. Thanks guys!!

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    I got that about a month to six weeks ago. For years I had the Jam>C>R out of sequence in my digital library, meaning all devices, etc. And I always forgot to fix it until about a year ago.. imagine the frustration....

    No right or wrong answer.. no majority or minority. I guess what attracts me to the China Riders is that the progressed or changed more from year to year, decade to decade. It seemed to morph quicker and for a longer period where the Scarlet Fires were seemingly more stable and had less change.

    A fun topic certain to draw me out of the woodwork along with many others apparently.

    P.S. I loved the redacted passages. Creative harmless humor that seemed to solve whatever problem existed at that moment. Cracked me up. Now where were we.. ah yes.. back to our evil plans to rule the world. If you are at a loss on where to begin, might I recommend the excellent book by André De Guillaume simply titled, "How To Rule the World." It's a must read for the aspiring dictator in us all. (Ooops, should I have redacted some of that?)

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    That '74 Providence China -> Rider though....

    ....oh yeah Angry Jack. First time I heard that, I think I replayed it three or four times. Still have it on tape.
    As a matter of fact, I haven't listened to it for a while, so its going in.....now.
    It's approximately 20 minutes long. Same length as hockey intermissions. Imagine that.

  • Angry Jack Straw
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    I’ll take S>F over C>R. I prefer the 77 S>Fs over any other year. The spring tour specifically. Agreed that 72-74 was the peak for C>R. The duo seemed to lose something once the band discontinued MLB during the transition.

    That being said, the 6/26/74 C>R from DP12 trumps all of the versions of both combinations. For me at least. One of my favorite pieces of GD music.

    The Devils are flying. Hope they can continue the momentum.

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    China Rider all the way for me...

    I agree on 5/3/72 and 8/27/72 as standouts, but the off the beaten track sleepers always pull me in.

    I was thinking about this very topic over the weekend I had a mystery waterproof device playing while I was on the river.. I have five or six waterproof shuffles and never know what's playing. I think it was 2/24/74, anyway.. it got me thinking about the under the radar excellent versions. For me, a couple that sneak up on you are 5/24/72 Lyceum, 5/17/74 Vancouver and toss in 7/9/89 Giants Stadium simply because I listened to it Saturday night and it's one of those versions where there's is a verse flub and boy did they make hay filling in the empty space with some incredible playing.

    Anyway, like someone else in this thread commented, it does a good job of highlighting all the things the GD did that no other band seems to have been able to crystalize so purely, it almost seems effortless but we know better. Man, I miss Jerry.. a 20th century heavyweight.

    Love the stand alone Scarlets but there's a few Scarlet Fires I really like, both pre and post Brent. Still.. I could listen to enjoy sequential listens of every China Eleven and China Rider they ever did and never get bored.

    That's all I've got.. back to the taboo topics and psycedellic mayhem that makes us all tick.

  • ronmarley1
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    Have had a tracking number since Thursday, but still not tracking. Whatever. I've been in this situation before where it showed up and there was never any tracking. Not confident with the ole USPS. Three weeks ago, had a mail stop for a road trip to Nashville and Memphis. Came home to a box full of mail.

    Used to be Scarlet>Fire. Now I'm more China>Rider. But that's like picking which child you love more.

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    Checked tracking this morning, said it was 150 miles away and would deliver by Saturday May 6. My tiny rural PO is temporarily closed for repairs, those who do not get home delivery have to pick up at another PO for a while. And there it was, a total surprise. Just the first disc in so far, first impression. Simply excellent, strong vocals, great Bird Song, Jeffrey Norman has done magic again and of course, it's a Bear to begin with. Would not be surprised if this sells out before 45.

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    Crow - I was about to write a post with exactly the same message you wrote re China-Rider. And I would have referenced the same one , from the original Europe 72 album. It's got so much of what I like about the band in a short space....well, what you said basically. The other one that came to mind was the one from 8/27/72.

    I also like the stand alone Scarlets. I like the fact that the 77 versions of Scarlet-Fire have such a different feel to them than anything they played pre-retirement - a bit calypso to me sometimes -a World music vibe. Trouble is I'm not always that keen on it! Definitely good to hear now and again though.

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    Bonus Disk Set list.
    1. Bertha -6:24
    2. Greatest Story Ever Told -5:33
    3. Bird Song -11:01
    4. Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toddeloo -7:03
    5. BrokeDown Palace -5:45
    *** 9/19/72 Jersey City, NJ Rosevelt Stadium
    6. China Cat Sunflower- 6:43
    7. I Know You Rider- 5:59
    8. Brown-Eyed Woman -5:26
    9. Trucking -10:24
    10. Cold Rain & Snow- 5:30
    11. Ramble On Rose- 6:17
    *** 9/3/72 Boulder, CO ‘Folsom Field

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    I've sometimes thought that if somebody who had never heard the GD asked me for one track they could listen to that would clue them in to why the band is so special, I might choose China-Rider. It's got a little of everything: some psychedelia, some funk, some jamming, some country/folk. If we listen to, say, the one from Europe '72, we get absolutely fantastic interplay between Jer and Bob's guitars. And it's a really good showcase for everything we love about Jerry's vocals.

    I'm always up for a good Scar-Fire, but I do think they're probably less consistent than China-Rider.

    Got my shipping notice a couple days ago, still shows "status not available" when I try to use the tracking number. Whatever. It'll get here in a week or so.

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Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.
 
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

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Fantastic stuff, bring it on!! Awesome cover as well

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Presumably, they have decided to allow early pre-orders to try to get longer to sell out the set. Their previous decision to only start selling a la carte from the release date has apparently been abandoned. Good luck to those who need to order, I hope it goes smoothly.

As said on the 45 comments the seaside chat is available on utube even though it isn’t on the DeadNet site yet.

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I somehow noticed the way Dave brought up DP #50 and then went on to say another comment, something to the effect of "some 50 coming up" Well, it's the 50th for 1973.....possible box set hint??? I sure hope!

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Dang Nappy that would have been a great one!

Never heard. cant wait to hear it!!!

Wonder if any change in PA and sound from the E72 recordings.

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I'm glad I got the subscription. Getting the Bonus Disc from from this year will be prime!

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Just ordered this CD...Looking forward to it, 1972 has got to be one of the BEST Years in Grateful Dead History....
Thou I got ``On the Bus`` Fairly Late, (1969)...And didn`t get to see them Live 'till 1973...I still consider `72 to be the PEAK of Dead Music...
THANK YOU for this Great Offer.....AHO !
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I had a barking dog and talking child and missed what the tracks were on the 4th disc. Thanks to Dave's seaside chats I did know that was an oyster catcher when it chirped/squawked before he called it out.
Looking forward to some vinyl coming soon RSD, DaP, Bears, FTV1. Wish the big box would be announced soon!

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It's been a while since the last Dave's Picks came from 1972. Looking forward to this release!

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Hey! I see that there are still copies of Dave's Picks 45 available. Can I get a package deal?

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LET'S DO THIS!!
PLAY DEAD-PLAY DEAD LOUD!!

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Dave didn't say, but he reminds us there were tracks on DiP 36 from that Boulder show which is part of the bonus disc.
He's Gone, The Other One, and Wharf Rat were on DiP36 so guessing it's not those?
He did say "box" and "other things" (plural) so let the guesses begin.
Cheers

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Always look forward to the second release, definitely the best of the year, every year it seems.

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Would have to think box set, Wake of the Flood 50th release, sweatshirts sweat shorts, gardening tools etc.

Still waiting for the comments on the price increase.

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Another order successfully completed. It seems to be more difficult placing an order with deadnet than anywhere else I order from. Maybe this is why they don't sell out so fast these days.

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2023 cover art is back to form. Beautiful and relevant to the show! Really looking forward to some seasoned post Europe ‘72 Good Old Grateful Dead recorded by The Bear!!

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Much better.

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Definitely.

(46 on order.)

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Order has been restored to the universe again.

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....much better. Got Stoned twice on 4/20. Good to have him back jack.

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Really looking forward to this one. Wish they listed the Bonus Disc tracks.

Maybe the 1973 50th Anniversary year will fiiiiiinally have 6/10/73. And 6/9. And Watkins Glen. Bird Songs....lots of Bird Songs. And then half a dozen shows with Dark Stars...

Anniversary of The Grateful Dead Beat Club 4/21/72, so pull out that trunk and tune into The Other One to get your socks blown off your feet.

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....put that on a print, and I will purchase it. Thanks.
I'll be in Hollywood Saturday. Imagine that.

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Good review of this show in the Taping Compendium. Looks like there's a powerful "Truckin-Other One" jam, which suits me. This jam really stood out for me on recent listens of 4/7 and 11/4 72 at Wembley and Newcastle. It will be good to hear how it shapes up 5 months later.

Colin - I never saw Camel live. I would have been quite happy to tag along if I'd known or gone out with anyone who liked them, but I never felt sufficiently interested to seek them out myself. They must have played in Manchester countless times between about 1972 and 1980, but I never seemed to notice when they did.

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Indeed.

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It's been a holiday as far back as I can remember.

Which was yesterday.................

A good memory is one trained to forget the trivial............

Rock on,

Doc
A retentive memory may be a good thing, but the ability to forget is the true token of greatness......

So, our local store requires that you get a numbered bracelet the day before (today). I drive down a half an hour before opening and 50 people are already in line. Guess I'm ordering online again. Either that or I'll finally purchase a turntable so I can listen to what I own.

DaP46 - love the cover. I've always been on the wrong side of the bell curve when it comes to intelligence, so I don't mind asking this question. Am I supposed to know the woman? Also, any help with the symbols would be appreciated. Feel free to ask me a math or hockey question in exchange for your kindness.

The hockey universe returned to normal across the board last night. Save maybe the Devils. Mike, while I remain optimistic, I also recognize that the loss of Hedman (and Cernak to a lesser extent) severely hinders the Bolts. Nevertheless, keep the faith.

Vguy - congrats. Hope you enjoyed the game.

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Jack - I wondered the same thing, if she was someone specific to the show/town/time, or she is some Michelle Phillips/California mock up? Great cover, though.

Oro - I think we need to take Doc’s words to heart - forgetfulness is ok, and sometimes in things like marriage, a survival skill.
PS - What’s with your AVs? I though they would crush the Kracken. I didn’t give Seattle enough props.

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A lot of times the DaP covers have something to do with the set list, like we had train 102 on the cover of 44 because there was a rare 1977 performance of Casey Jones, or we had the ship on the cover of 42 because it was that had the debut (I think) or Ship of Fools. So here's my theory about the cover of 46: she's Stella Blue.

Very very stoked about this release. Sitting as it does smack dab in the middle between Veneta (possibly my all time fave show, if this such a thing) and the 9/21/72 show that formed one of the very best (IMHO and all that) Dicks Picks, a time when the Dead was indeed en fuego, you know it's going to be a doozy. And there's a 30 minute Other One? And bonus disc from the same time span? Yes, please.

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…yeah, me too? Nice change from bearded skeletons…makes me want an orange dreamsickle!

Your not wrong Mike…..cept she never lets me forget it ; )

GO LEAFS! That’s how you start.
1 down….
Yeah Kraken, my new favorite team! Respect!

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brutal...

The cover art, on the other hand, is inspired & beautiful; a huge relief from that long stretch of silly skeleton art.

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My take is that it's the Spanish Lady handing us a rose to crater our minds, but the blue does invite the idea that she is Stella Blue. That is the heart of this show. That whole hour+ of E is fantastic, but just terrific take on TOO and my favorite 1972 Stella. Phil is all over this show, and he destroys these especially. Listened to the Listening Party last night, and was blown away by the Bird Song. Can't wait for the Playing! '72 Dead is just something else entirely, and it's so good.

Side note: while digging that Bird Song last night I pondered back to why didn't they play it in Europe? Would have become a staple with exploratory jams, and it may have even found itself in a second set jam. Alas.

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She also appears to be pyramidical. Again, not sure why.

Edit: I enjoy the ambiguity of the design. I’d rather spend my time trying to ascertain a hidden meaning rather than wasting it only to realize that bearded skeletons are nothing more than bearded skeletons.

I like the Spanish angle, but the stars and crescents are throwing me off. They are Moorish. But, as we all know, it was the Moops who invaded Spain, not the Moors. So you may be correct.

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I drove downtown an hour before opening to get a number for tomorrow, and I’m stuck with #72. I’ll still show up, just for the halibut.
I appreciate the reminder to open my trunk. It sits right in my music room, but seems to disappear into the background sometimes. I’ve always thought that the last 4 shows (overall) are pretty much superb, but there are too many other moments that deserved to be memorialized. Does anybody else remember the emails that kept updating us as to how many actual discs would be required?? I swear I remember at least 3 updates.
THATMIKE-it was fantastic watching the Maple Leafs last night!!Now they need to split in Fla.
Maybe you’re younger than me, but Scott Stevens played his first 8 seasons in Washington. Those are the years I cherish.

Music is the Best!!

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I forgot about Scott Stevens playing in Washington! I remember him in St Lou & NJ, but you are absolutely right (Remember Doc’s wise words on forgetting!) His hits on Paul Kariya and Eric Lindros are the stuff of legend. But I’m definitely an old time fan, I actually was following the Leafs & NHL as a kid in the 60s, even before the last Cup for the Leafs, a life long passion. Last night was beyond words. Cannot wait for the games in Florida, and a split there would be great. Now, if the Panthers could maybe upset the Bruins, and DaP 46 would hit mailboxes in the next few days…
Life is grand, and if I may quote you “Music is the best!”

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Phew. Inflation is a Bummer! But just another reason to subscribe for the year. Penned out for 2023, it’s only $7.64 per disc for me here in WA state with sales tax.

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makes me laugh how much negativity that imagery brings out

Now, if they were bearded clams, people probably wouldn't complain

I do like the new cover art, even though that's not why I am looking forward to the new release

Moops...lmfao...

MOOPS!

....you sunovabitch. Nice one, and probably correct. Weens Chocolate And Cheese has one my favorite covers. As does The Black Crowes Amorica.
Hey. What can I say?
My White Stripes Elephant 20th anniversary double LP arrived today.
Seven Nation Army skips right from the start. The rest of the first LP is spinning fine. Time for LP two.
Noticed that the lyrics for I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself is missing on the sleeve....c'mon man!
Edit. Just realized it's a Burt Bacharach cover. My bad.
Edit again. Ball And Biscuit is also skipping. Ugh.
I'm dipping my toe back into the vinyl, but, no matter how cool the splatter LOOKS, and this one looks really cool, skips right out of the gate is frustrating as all get out.
I want to hear Jack Whites distortion, but not over and over again.

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Saddened by the loss of Joani Walker...We all owe her a standing ovation. Latvala!!! Joani

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Incredible that it's 20 years since "Elephant" came out. I remember playing that on Fridays nights after the week at work and before I went out . I saw The White Stripes, once, playing some Yardbirds covers with Jeff Beck. It was his show, and various luminaries came on to play specific songs. John McLaughlin was another one who pitched up.

This new Dave's cover looks a bit androgynous to me.

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I gather that the concentric circles mimic the ceiling of the venue, which is located on Sunset Blvd.

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Stoltzie, my fellow GD denizen, you write like I think on many an occasion, and now, bearded clams!?!, LMFAO

And now, back to your regularly scheduled Grateful Dead discussion.... ;-P

PS edit- It's no wonder not too many of the fairer sex chiming in around these parts lately? hahhaha

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It was just too easy

Waaay back there was a locally produced satirical comedy show in the Seattle area

One time the show opened with a text crawl and a voiceover;

"The following program contains content that might offend sensitive viewers

Like wusses, and wimps, and weenies"

Still makes me laugh today

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On PBS Great Performances "Now Hear This" episode last night I saw an amazing percussionist that I'm sure is on Mickey's Hart's world beat radar as he has done a lot of videos. His steel drum skills are phenomenal, he is a composer, and he does very cool collaborations like one with a pianist playing a "prepared" piano with dimes wedged in between certain strings to have a percussive effect. And it sounds great. He plays just about anything from paint cans to vibraphone and even invents instruments out of anything, like a truck brake drum. He did a duet with the host Scott Yoo on violin and Andy on steel drum that was sweet. I can't say enough about this humble, very cool guy and his many skills and that show is worth looking into if you have the time. I'll be looking up those videos today for sure.
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I can remember in the early 1980's if they showed a film on television with sexually explicit content, they used to put a red triangle in the top corner of the screen to warn people. I suppose they thought some people might miss it otherwise .They often seemed to be on when we came back from the pub, and we used to sit there eating our supper, waiting for the good bits to come on.

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