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    I think they call if Furthur for a reason....because the youngins like Jackie and John (the list is endless) are gonna carry the torch for another 40 years, then it goes even Furthur....I mean think of the influence that our community/band....US, have have on these young musicians, and even the ones to come. They can look back @ the Grateful Dead (as a whole, not just the band) and say WOW....these people were real, did love, and lived the way I want to live. I'm sure everyone has a story here...like even just going to a local convenience store, jib-jabbering about something, and the random person you met says, "There's something different about this person. Really Different." How many times have I had someone come back to me years later and say, "Why is it that you are still stuck in my mind." The Grateful Dead I tell them, every time....it's all about the feeling, the love, the community. Nice story AKHead! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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    Another lady friend from AK and her 25 year old son happened to be in SF and stumbled into tickets for Phil's B-Day. Her son said it was the most significant event in his life, (hahaha, so far). I don't think analyzing the music itself means much. I see one grate continuum of community, ebbing, peaking, reinforcing, nipping away at the edges of those anti-evolving forces of exclusion and sleep-living. And when the live shows are done, if they truly ever are, it will be the resonance that continues.
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    anti-anybody talk?........we're all stuck on this rock anyway, just turn up the volume and smile!!
  • Gypsy Cowgirl
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    maybe it's all just part of "You say it's a living, we all gotta eat"............
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    I've never understood the pick shit apart until your fuckin' head explodes trip. ...and the "corporate shills" bullshit? Yeah...right...doing an album set is playing right into the hands of the corporate dictatorship and the military industrial complex...I've been discovered. I'm just using this site to get Deadheads to invest in the corporate media...curses...foiled again.. As far as the looking back to the past criticism... that smacks of neo conservative double speak, anti hippie, squarehead shit talk. Our past was the future...the present just hasn't caught up yet. I got your future for ya ...right here!!!!!!!!
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    May have been bored during Spring 09 but you sure could not tell. The drums segment at the shoreline shows was the best I have EVER heard. I'm nearly through listening to the entire 09 tour, and like I have said before, there are some aspects of the Dead line up I think are best and there are aspects of the Furthur line up I think are best but in the end I enjoy what each line up has to offer. I know that is a wish-washy stance but it is true and I am going to leave it at that without getting into specifics. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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    Awesome show right!? I was unable to go to the 1st night but I downloaded it and it is killer. estimated>terrapin was exactly what I was looking for! I wish it was played the second night... "my time comin anyday don't worry bout me no"
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    Love your examples of live show concepts, BPeach. I would've loved to climb that rigging. Good analysis, streamline. Sad about the potential fracture as evidenced in those interviews. =( Cour fore I thought had some hot moments with Warren, especially MSG'09. I'm glad I was there to hear them!
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    Well, if you went to any of the Dead's shows last year - whether or not it was the drummers who sucked the life out of the performances was debatable. What seemed clear to me though was that the famous "core of four" was lifeless. Phil and Bobby play well together though, as do Billy and Mickey. Perhaps it's high time that they called it quits and played as two, three, or even four separate bands again. They all seem happiest that way and the product is consistently better, at least IMHO. I went to Albany (4/17/09) and Hartford (4/26/09). I also picked up soundboards of New York (4/25/09) and Worcester (4/19/09). Of the four, Worcester was by far the strongest. But I just felt that the boys were mailing it in. Billy said as much in an interview back in January: "I’ll be real honest with you. Toward the end of the Dead tour, I was getting kind of bored with the music because it was kind of formulized. That why I work with these other bands now. I can be totally free and I’m encouraged to be that way. The musicians like that." The source for this quote can be found here: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-15209-The-Dead-Examiner%7Ey2010m1d2-… It could be that Bobby's finally burning his bridges to Mickey and Bill. He's been accused of being candid in the past and that's caused trouble before. He got the rap for the whole incident with LAMA, he dissed DSO for not playing their own music, and so it's not a reach that he might take a swing at the drummers after the last Dead tour. It was a miserable run of shows (at least I felt that way) and that must have been disappointing, assuming he felt the same. I do agree however that the drumming segment of the last Dead tour was consistently the best segment of each night. Mickey and Bill worked out well-crafted routines that were exciting and challenging. However, the interplay among the "core of four" and the two sidemen was tentative at best. The band never jelled. So now there are two factions and I suspect that there will be a mild battle of words as they separate. I don't take it too seriously. If they can get their collective acts together, they'll patch things up. Whether they all play together again is not something I'd be willing to bet on. I wouldn't bet against it either though. "When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest!" - Bullwinkle Moose
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    I was there and I agree with you! I really enjoyed 3/5/10 also. It's hard for me to pick which night was the best! "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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I:One More Saturday Night> Sitting On Top Of The World; Mexicali Blues; Peaceful Valley Stagger lee Next Time You See Me> Gimme' Some Lovin'> Around & Around II: Jam>Dark Side Of The Moon> Mountains Of The Moon>Jam> Mountains Of The Moon> St. Stephen>Jam>St. Stephen> Dark Star>The Eleven> Caution> Mountains Be My Home (Phil); Playing IIn The Band> Dark Star>Morning Dew> Playing In The Band Phil's Donor Rap E: Uncle John's band We're giving this one 4 stars based on the amount of jamming in this show and the insane list. Phil acknowledged special energy between the band and crowd. The first set was also nicely jammed on each tune. The highlight of the evening was Caution for me, with Weir showing a mastery of the tune I haven'''t seen. The Dark Star dropped in nicely and was nicely finished in a Playin'>Dark Star>Morning Dew>Playin' sandwich. All in all this show was "Saturday at the Rocks" worthy. the boys put ina full night's work with a lot of flourishes and careful attention to the jamming. Gotta love the ride they are giving on this night and on this tour. ~ Because I'm Sitting On Top Of The World! ~
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I:Sampson & Delilah Reuben & Cherise I Need A Miracle Something Looks Like rain Tennessee Jed Birdsong ]Lovelight II: Jam>Truckin'> Smokestack Lightning> New Potato Caboose> Born Cross-Eyed> Wharf Rat Unbroken Chain Shakedown> Standing On The Moon Help On The Way> Slipknot> Francklin's Tower> Slipknot Reprise Philis Donor Rap E: Brokedown Palace
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Heck, I've barely had time to hit the pool and hot tub > Gonzo has the setlist already up ! Interesting to have Lovelight in the first set. Met up with Gypsy at the break. Unbroken Chain was terrific: The jam between it and Shakedown was excellent. Standing on the Moon was an unexpected treat. Thought we'd see Sailor or Scarlet.
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Couldn't make it down to the lower south lot. Sat and Sun we were parked next to the little boy who was playing the guitar and singing. You know, that little prodigy, if you heard him you know what I am talking about! =)
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I have to say that Red Rocks is a great venue and Coloradans are great people. I made so many friends and there were very few bad vibes outside.Inside could get a little obnoxious with the sold-out crush of people sitting anywhere. Review for the last show: Highlights included Something In The Way She Moves; Reuben & Cherise; New Potatoe; Unbroken Chain & Shakedown. The show wasn't a bad effort but really fell flat at the end. We'll give it three stars.
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Today was another beautiful day on the road. First going through the Rockies with the golden colored aspens and then the beautiful scenery in Colorado and Utah. It seems like I've seen every part of the West, at least all the usual profiles. Playlist: E72: Vol. 20 E72: Vol. 21 Garcia & Grisma Lou Reed"New York Muddy Waters; Greatest Hits Howlin' Wolf: Greatest Hits It's been a great trip.
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Great stories, and I love the fact that your son liked it! I've been telling you this band is guided by Jerry for quite some time, but man, if you really FEEL the music than that's what it's all about. ROCK ON. I'm so happy that you got experience what we did last year, with better setlists. I mean, they ain't holdin' back no more......for real, Furthur has reached the heights but aren't even done. Thank God for Red Rox....great venue, if not the Greatest of all time, but hey I'm partial, I was @ '87 too and if I remember it was the first time I ever took the "journey" into a new land. So glad some of you folks got to see how frggin phenomenal this band really is!!!! I mean, you can really FEEL Jerry sometimes, throwing his two cents in and being the jovial person I know he is, DAWN the crowd into a state of BLISS. Thank you Phil Lesh, Bobby Weir, John Kadlecik, Joe Russo, Jeff Chiementi, Sunshine Garcia-Becker, and Jeff Perhson for the last two years, you've turned my unfulfilled ears around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS....this Chuck guy, I mean Charlie, Miller sounds friggin AWESOME! TY
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Hmmmmmmmnnnn...... Lost Wages. Sin City doesn't have any appeal for me, though the many colored lights are a fun distraction before and especially after the show. I hope Furthur does a full light show tonight also. While I haven't spoken directly about the "The Lighting" on this tour, I guess I will do so here and say it is a GREAT light show when it is fully cranked up like it was in Eugene. I saw many different things in the lights. Some of the effects are subtle, some not so subtle. In general, a great addition to Furthur's appeal. When they are hitting on all cylinders with the lights cranked, this is some very juicy, dripping, psychedelia. I think I'm gonna get slimed with their psycho-active jams, and dance every minute of that great energy tonight! Show time is scheduled for 8:00pm but 9:15-9:30pm does not sound unreasonable. Late start, late finish with, hopefully, a shorter break tonight.
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The Hard Rock Cafe complex in Las Vegas is huge. It covers about 1 1/2 city blocks and has towers and pools and a mall and restaurants and a spa and bars and, oh yeah, a couple of venues for Entertainment acts to play. Furthur will be at The Joint At Hard Rock tonight. Rooms were reasonable. A single king in the Paradise Tower sold for $89 plus tax the day before the show. Tonight, a walk down the main drag in Vegas after the show. ~ When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~ (Hunter Thompson)
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Excellent shows, truly an evolution of musicality and song selection. Now chilling in my living room, listening to Furthur on SiriusXM LIVE NOW! Speechless, don't want to keep typing. LOVE! . . . . The vibe alive and well w/ FURTHUR. Rippin' Shakedown Sun at the Rocks! And I gotta say; from Death Don't Have No Mercy Jerry was present , missed, and honored. Fifth Row Jerry's side Fri and Sat. Sun up under a tree w/ the youth them there, two eldest came down front SO GOOD! Listening to Vegas now, AMAZING! There were six tickets for Vegas when my lovely wife booked our Red Rocks, responsibility brought us home safely. Perhaps next year the boys and girl will revisit. This HardRock show is another off the hook 1st set, creative lyrics appreciated. Peace
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What a kickin' show from The Joint. So crisp, lay it on. Sounds unbelievably sweet streaming SiriusXM. Love It Boys! Thanks for playin' at The Rocks over the weekend!!! Scarlet/Fire...perhaps
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I:China Cat Sunflower> New, New Minglewood Blues> Maggie's Farm; Cosmic Charrlie> Welcome To The Dance> China Doll; Like A Rolling Stone> Casey Jones II: The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion) Viola Lee Blues> The Midnight Hour> Viola Lee Blues> Why Don't We Do It In The Road> Viola Lee Blues Weather Report Suite> Let It Grow; Stella Blue; Scarlet Begonias> Fire On The Mountain Phil's Donor Rap E: Liberty It would be pointless to go through highlights for this show. It was a masterful performance by the band in an intimate setting. I was right in front of the sound board and had a great view of the whole band all night. The playing and jamming was crisp. The Cosmic Charlie was right on the money. The China Doll was more than passable and had us all missing Jerry. Like A Rolling Stone was awesome and heartfelt. The Golden Road had the 2nd set roaring and the set was totally sick with the Viola going in and out of such favs. as Midnight Hour and Do It In The Road. The Weather Report Suite was full blown and well done, better than the Let It Grow. Liberty was crisp and a good way to end the night's festivities. Everybody was totally into it. There was a whole lot of people doing the full stomp boogie. The energy is there these nights and it don't take much to ride it.'' We give this show 4.5 stars but rate it slightly behind Missoula as the tour favorite.
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Rebroadcasts of the Joint show will be on October 7 at 3 pm ET; October 9 at 8 am ET and October 10 at 8 pm ET.
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15 rooms but one will do Vegas is the worst housing market in the country. Get your mcmansions here, cheap! ~ Don't want to but it. Just want to rent for a minute or two. ~
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Did ya make it out to Cali?
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Maybe his cell phone battery croaked. The setlist looks awesome from last night's show in Los Angeles. Music Never Stopped, Bertha, Cumberland Blues > Brown Eyed Women, Peggy-O, Magnolia Mountain, Jack Straw, New Speedway Boogie Lost Sailor > St. of Circumstance > Crazy Fingers > She Came In Through The Bathroom Window > Eyes Of The World > He's Gone > Terrapin Station Suite > Days Between > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad E: Johnny B. Goode
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If you don't see the list here go to archive.org for up to a two day delay for posting the actual show for your listening pleasure. Than ks for posting the lists GTed. ~ Truckin', I'm a goin' home! ~
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I'm giving a standing ovation to Phil & Bob & their whole gang in Furthur. This band is just totally letting it all hang out. With their light show full blown they are a true psychedelic spectacle. I thought it was well worth my effort and expense, unlike The Dead 09. Having the E72 trunk was definitely a fave. Every show I went to I became the tune provider for the afternoon lot scene in my little area. Everybody was getting off on it. i don't know that I'll ever do another tour, but having Bob, Phil, JK, Jeff & the rest do a group bow and then clap for us, close-up, in Vegas, was a sweet way to end the tour and my memory of it. Soldier on Furthur-heads! ~ Only the strange remain... ~
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That's quite a feat, Gonz, crossing the country and seeing so many shows to ease your soul. I'm guessing you've flown back to Vermont? Here's the 10/6 L.A. setlist: Set 1: Sugar Magnolia > Cassidy, Colors of the Rain > Here Comes the Sun, Peaceful Valley > Time > Death Don't Have No Mercy, Ripple Set 2: Dear Mr. Fantasy > The Wheel > Uncle John's Band, Mountain Song > I Know You Rider, The Other One > St. Stephen, So Many Roads > Supplication Jam > Uncle John's Band (reprise) E: Attics Of My Life
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looked to be in order here in Monterey. Least that was my first reaction when I saw the sawdust spread all over the arena floor. Nice touch, Maybe had something to do with all the previous days rain.Thought the first set drug a little and was somewhat short. Was getting worried it might be kinda of a flat night. It wasn't. Was workin' up a lather shortly into the second set. They are so incredibly good. A pleasure and a joy to behold.....they're a band beyond description, like yaweh's favorite choir! Really looking forward to tonights performance
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IPromised Land Easy Wind Pride of Cucamonga Mission In The Rain Two Djinn The Candyman Mason's Children Quinn The Eskimo II Any Road Estimated Prophet Deal Plain' In The band Dark Star Caution King Solomon's Marbles Dear Prudence Unbroken Chain Not fade Away Phil's Donor rap E Touch Of Grey
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IFell Like A Stranger Althea Good morning Little Scvhoolgirl N More Do I Friend Of the devil Viola Lee Blues Comes A Time Throwing Stones II The Gold\en Road Shakedown Street Truckin' Let I t Grow All Along The watchtower morning Dew Help> Slipknot> The Eleven> Frankli's Tower Phil's Donor Rap E One More Saturday Night
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Who did the singing? Mission is one of those favorites of mine, never heard it live until I heard Bobby sing it during the last (I think) Ratdog tour. I went from "hard to imagine anyone but Jerry" to "not bad, Bob, I'm impressed" after the first chorus. Gonzo, you still on the road or just reporting setlists?
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....of Bobby and Ratdog. These are passable versions, nothing like when Jerry used to melt down the place with the first stanza. ~ I turned around to see Then I come round again It looks as though Tomorrow I'll do pretty much the same I must turn down your offer, But I'd like to ask a break You know I'm ready to give everything For anything I take ~
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It's still not up on archive as of this afternoon. It's hard to make a meaningful analysis of this tour without hearing every show (or being at all of them). I can already say that I am upbeat about the shows at least through Vegas.
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Monterey had. That was being in the landing path of Monterey Airport and every 20 minutes or so a jet would burst over the the top of the arena descending to the runway. Friday night we were facing stage left with the jets coming at us. Saturday night, facing stage right, the jets descending towards the airport. Roars from the party goers go up for certain lyrics. Roars go up for great solos, roars of approval go up for incredible jams. I often see most of a show with my eyes closed. The audience would roar at inexplicable times and then you realized a jet had just flashed low overhead.How good were these shows? I'm 63 and I'm amazed. My girl says thats cuz it doesn't take alot to make me happy (I'm good with that :-). When my eyes were open I'd be looking all around and as far as I could see there were people weaving and bobbing and shaking and having a good ol' time. Did I mention more smiles than you will see anywhere? It was two great nights of music and people coming together to celebrate something very few understand. As I have been told on numerous occasions, "the Grateful Dead? I don't get it." "won't you come out to play?"
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Set lists are easy to find...I just hope someone taped these shows... 10/5 1. Music Never Stopped Bertha Cumberland BE Women Peggy O Magnolia Mnt Jack Straw NSB 2. Sailor Circumstance Crazy Fingers She came in through the bathroom window Eyes He Gone Terrapin Suite Days GDTRFB JBG 10/6 1. Sugar Mag Cassidy Colors Here comes the sun Peaceful valley Time DDHNM Ripple Dear Mr Fantasy Wheel UJB Mnt Song Rider Other Stephen So many roads Supplication Jam UJB reprise Attics
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I'm d/l RR 9/30 now. I swear I don't remember them doing any kind of Supplication, I've been dying for a Lightning>Supp, it must have been very short, or I was doing something =) Here's hoping for New Years in SF. Let's make it 3 shows this year!!!
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My memory, oh where have you gone? I didn't hear Ratdog do my first Mission in the Rain on THEIR last tour (I guess that I was thinking of my first Cream Puff War, which I heard the last time I saw Ratdog on their last tour), I heard it at Lupo's in Providence-- the last Ratdog tour while I was still living in Rhode Island. Or something like that. I do remember spending some time at the show surrounded by a group of college hippie chicks from RISD, and feeling very old as I watched countless guys trying to hit on one or another of them... So who's singing "Mission?" Bob or JK?
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In the Rain was crooned by Bobby on Friday evening.
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Now that I have all the set lists to look at and memory of the shows to go with it up until the last 4, I have to say that the band was grooving with the exception of the first set in the first show in Eugene when Bob cut it short. Everybody goes to shows for one thing or another. I go to dance and have a good time in the parking lot, meet a lot of new people. This tour was fun. Blue skies followed us everywhere and people were definitely into it. One of my pet peeves is cell/smart phones and though the die-hards were out there checking their phone a million times a night, MOST of the people were just enjoying themselves. I had the feeling that Furthur felt they had something to prove on this tour. Phil kept saying things from the stage after the shows that were sort of a declamation of surprise at the how they'd played that night. The crowd was strikingly different from the East Coast. There were a lot more older deadheads in the crowd. The younger generation was completely pushed back. It was funny to hear this 30-something year old going off on a rant about how you just couldn't be walking down the strip in Vegas without a plan trippin' balls! You had to have a plan! I have listened to the three shows of four I wasn't at and I don't think there was anything thesere more than 2-3 stars. They had to be getting tired, especially playing 5 of the last 5 in a row. However, credit where credit is due: Bobby & Phil were playing hard right down to the last song every show before. One last comment on the heads going to the shows and how they've changed. The people were very friendly out west and it was super-fun just to hang out. What is missing from the good old days? 1: Jerry! 2 We all were younger 3 We used to Wang Dang Doodle all night long It's a lot tamer now and there is a hell of a lot more white hair but you can still dance... I'll take it every time. Best of the Tour: Missoula The Joint @ Hard Rock Sat. @ Red Rocks Furthur is following me home for the tour opener in November.
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Man I wish I was there!!!! I think you'll all enjoy this, if you really want to go furthur. Notice the all black attire for Steve Jobs and the nod from Phil @ the end of the set. Enjoya.
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Thanks for the direct hit to such an enjoyable vid!
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But I didn't make that vid....just passed it on like a grilled cheese needed in the lot. You know, that one grilled cheese that was truly needed. LOVE IS REAL. NOt FAde away.......
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Please see this band.....you will like it!
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Fee? Seems to me I remember seeing that last year when getting my tickets thru ticket(talk about your greedy corporate bastards)tron. I don't got no stinking Commemorative Tickets from last NYE. Is that what's supposed to happen?
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Gives out the commerative NYE tix. Ticket outlets give the standard tix. At least that was last year...
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...should be great this year, the way the band is playing. I'd love to make the trip out but will probably miss. I hope everybody who gets the chance to go has a great time in the Bay Area while they're there!.
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that is cool art.
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...where to download the 10/5/11 show from the LA Greek? It's still not up on Archive.Thanks.
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IThe Music Never Stopped, Bertha, Cumberland Blues> Brown-Eyed Women, Magnolia Mountain Jack Straw, New, New, Speedway Blues. II Lost Sailor> Saint of Circumstance> Crazy Fingers, She Came In Through The bathroom Window> You Are Eyes Of The World> He's Gone> Terrapin Station Suite> The Days Between> GDTRFB Phil's Donor Rap Johnny B Goode This completes all the lists for the 2011 Western Tour by Furthur.
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Just retuned from the post office. Will get my stinkin' commemorative tickets this year by god :-). Oh the waiting. It's the hardest part. 76 days to NYE. Compared to the E72 wait this is nothing, but then again......
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Glad the band is following you to the East Coast, so we won't have so far to travel for our 3 shows in November!Just noticed the new CAPTCHA feature for adding comments. As a point of trivia for those of you from elsewhere, I will mention that this is exactly how we pronounce "capture" in New England, land of the lobsta, oysta, and chowda.
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Manchester and Portland for sure! Always cool to make new friends. Everybody was so friendly on the Western swing. Lets hope for good vibes all around. Lets start a circle in Manchester before the doors open and burn some sage...this is the East Coast Opener at the Verizon in Manchester. (%);~} ~ Gotta pahk the cahh and pick up a few nips at the packie ~
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I wish Furthur would figure out that the pre-sale thing is really just a tool for putting tickets into the hands of scalpers.
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Bob & Phil are kicking it pretty hard. Phil is lasting all night, most nights. JK looks comfortable doing his thing up there along with Chimenti and the drummer. The back-up singers are useful for certain numbers. This band can really clean-up and sound sharp when it wants to. It has the mechanics to roll out a jam in almost any song. And they can string it together for a whole set or, more rarely, for a whole show. The crowd is in large part a veteran one who has more than likely heard the Grateful Dead with Bret Mydland on keyboards. Most people are happy not to have it sold out anymore. There is a happy air of informality. So between the crowd and the band it looks and sounds great, most of the time. ~ So glad you made it! ~