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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #7141
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    Ha.. Re: Net Wiring

    Aren't we all geeks in our own way? I couldn't help but read that whole post, much of it lost on me.

    But it lead me to a conclusion. Correct.. Oro, you are not an IT professional. ..but perhaps a bot. not a Russian Bot or a Facebook Bot.. our own SF peace bot.

    I mean that in the most respectful way, hope I did not offend. In a way, Oroborous.. you are all we have in our freak fight against the tyrannists and enemies. We need our own bot.

    Sorry for the diversion. Again, meant with the utmost respect and hopefully a perceived tread of good nature and humor.

    Cousins, thanks for that info.. So that's the source of that language on my tape. Does anyone know the source? The Great American Music Hall is not called the Make Believe Ballroom, right? Was this just a clever name for a bootleg LP to get it past the TM and Copyright folks? There must be another half of this story.

    I guess it doesn't matter if we don't solve this riddle, but how on earth did that LP get it's name?

    Nite all.

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    Re: Deadvikes/net wiring

    To those not interested, please skip and except my apologies

    First, disclaimer: I am not a IT, computer, or network professional, in fact, when it comes to computers I’m way behind the curve. That being said, I am a custom AV professional which usually requires installing commercial grade networks in the home. I’ve done hundreds over the years. So I have a lot of experience using many AV products both wireless and hard wired. Why, because when you have home automation, Lighting, HVAC, Pool/spas, Security, AV, gaming, WiFi and more on one home network that’s a lot of bandwidth, no matter how many MBS/gigs your paying for. Your network is the foundation that all your net gear lives and depends on. You wouldn’t build your house on a cardboard foundation so you shouldn’t build your network on a insufficient one either!
    SONOS: you are correct that one of the main selling points for Sonos or any of the “wireless” audio products is reasonable stability over WiFi (of course always depending on service. Just like your water main the pipe is only so big)...the biggest of all reasons Sonos is ahead of the pack is their user interface. So with decent service you can certainly enjoy over WiFi, but like you mentioned if everyone is on line at the same time it’s like having every water facet and toilet going at once...,the pipe is only so big...streaming of course is the biggest drain of all.
    I won’t get all in on the phsycics, and I’d probably do a lousy job, but generally, a properly hardwired connection is going to be better: faster, less latency, more BW, and certainly more stable/reliable. I’ve seen situations where the IT guy had me disconnect a HW feed and use a meshed WAP, but that’s mostly because the WiFi gear was new, robust, and of course somewhat oversold lol. The wiring and switches were ancient crap....I may have been trying to use only four conductors which limits you to only 10/100. But that’s only happened a few times in 13 years!
    By comparison our nets are at least 1-5 gig capable, but our bigger new jobs have been 10 gig to try and future proof (as much as that’s possible anymore). Often these start getting into fiber, But I digress...
    Also, even if it’s not that time of day when the whole neighborhood is sucking on basically the same pipe, I’m sure you’ve still experienced huge speed drops, latency, and even severe buffering etc when the whole family is using all those wireless devices. So the more things you can take off WiFi and hardwire, the more those HW devices will benefit from the “bigger pipe” that the wire usually provides, but at the same time, the devices that are still over WiFi will also work better because removing streaming devices off essentially provides “more pipe” for the remaining WiFi devices.
    It’s all about the pipe baby: bigger, faster, stronger...
    The last job I was on before the VID was over 10K Square foot house. It has Comcast gig plus service, using an upgraded surfboard modem, 4 port commercial Router, 4- 48 port Poe switches, Ruckus Zone Director to air traffic control bandwidth where need via the 16 commercial grade Ruckus WAPs (all hardwired on cat five or better). All critical infrastructure gear is on Bluebolts for remote ip monitoring and rebooting.
    Besides the 16 Crestron hardwired touchscreens, there are probably a dozen iPads for control of all house subsystems. The 20+ cameras are now all nest over wifi which is a huge bandwidth drain, but that’s what the owner wanted. Throw in all the personal devices of the owners and up to 15 guests, and six in house servants and five large equipment racks of gear (even amplifiers now are ip controlled) and that’s a shit ton of bandwidth. A normal home network would not function!
    Obviously I assume most folks don’t have those needs, but the infrastructure methodology is the same.

    So for a “typical” house (there is no such thing but for simplicity)
    - Best pipe (service) you can get. Preferably on fiber or Coax if possible.
    - Buy your own upgraded modem. For a couple hundred bucks that you’ll make up by not renting one.
    - Research and get best Router you can
    - Use strategic placement of WAPs over full cat 5 or better. Six is the norm, but we sometimes pull cat 7, 8, and/or fiber.
    This depends on how many floors, walls, building materials etc, square footage. Like much of this too much is better than not enough. Think brick shithouse from BITD...
    Usually the cat for your phones all homerun back to your headend or main distribution point. Depending on where that is and if there’s adequate power nearby, you can place all your gear there, or if possible, place a robust net switch there. Obviously for switch size you’ll need to figure out how many devices you’ll want to H.W. depending on how May wires you have. It’s usualky much easier to have at least enough Poe ports to power WAPs (make sure you’ll have enough wattage). You can find all kinds of wall trim to terminate similar to how your phone or net are trimmed on your walls, or if long enough wire just terminate RJ 45 etc. You’ll need to terminate all the ends at the net switch. A decent cable tester is a real help to ensure proper terminations. Inevitably you’ll need to test from end to end using all wires and splices/connections.
    So you have your service feed to your modem, a net cabl from modem to router, router to your switch or switches, and your WAPs hardwired to your switch (s). If done properly using good gear (find gear with specks way above what you think you need, it can be money well spent, remember, your trying to build a brick shithouse, not a cheap tent! ), you can make your network more robust, stable and therefore enjoyable! It’s like buying a car with a big engine, you don’t akways need it but when you do and you put the hammer down, you’ll be glad you have that headroom.
    Obviously many folks dont need so much, but even a additional switch with hardwired devices out of your provider modem can help when supply is getting stretched thin.
    No matter how big or small or what your needs are, always hardwire when possible! That’s what I’ve found works best, cause it’s all about the pipe!
    Hope this is understandable and helps. Sorry if I didn’t explain well.

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    Jim, my first exposure to it was the Make Believe Ballroom LP on the TAKRL label

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    in the queue...

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    Made that run too.. I think there are several of us here that must have shared a fatty or a bowl at some point over the last 35 years.

    So are we doing One From the Vault next? My first tape of this was labeled "Make Believe Ballroom." Not sure where that came from or how common it was.

    So I decided if we are doing 3/24/90 I would re-order it and do it right.. which is where I still am. I did roast a good amount of kind Ethiopian Coffee and unfortunately spent a ton of time on the phone with USPS. Back to finally getting my Knick exactly perfect. Whoever mentioned the Mind Left Body.. my two favorites are 10/18/73 and 3/24/90. On the latter, Jerry and Brent are in the middle of a serious mind meld. It's amazing and Brent really does fill in the gaps, almost exactly perfectly. Always one of my favorite late era shows. Amazing.

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    8/13/75. "Good evening, we welcome you...

    ...On behalf of the group"

    Pretty much have this whole show memorized, as it's always in heavy rotation. What the heck, in the interest of supporting my Deadhead brethren, of all genders, races, political leanings and creeds, I'll cue it up tomorrow and play it LOUD on the big boy system!!

    Unless my wife is home, then it's headphones.

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    Great choice, I was able to listen to I believe everything except Desolation Row. Still have my Dozin copy from 1996 and the first Spring 1990 opening tunes. Top shelf!

    I will throw out another 90s release for tomorrow, 8/13/75, One From the Vault.
    I have two copies of this, the original 1991 release and the remastered release from 2007. The upgrade is awesome.

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    Did someone say hockey?....

    ....my radar pinged.

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    Excellent advice Jimbo.

    I listen to new CD arrivals to confirm that they are not defective, then make a disc image on a HD. I then type in the track names and make any necessary edits (removing those stupid overlap transitions between CD’s), and export the files as Sd2f. The Sd2f file is then used to make copies in various formats: AIFF, ALAC, FLAC, AAC-320 (each format on a separate HD).
    The ALAC files go onto micro SDXC cards for my iBasso music players (DX80 and DX120), and into iTunes for my iPod 5 Classic which a few months ago I upgraded to 1 TB using an iFlash Quad.
    The AAC-120 and FLAC files are for playing from USB drives in cars.
    With the AIFF files I burn 2 copies to CD-R as backups (glad I started doing that now that the CD rot issue has been brought to our attention), and listen to one of the copies to confirm that the files on the HD are not corrupt.

    I then make multiple HD backups

    Where do I find the time?
    I don’t play video games, I don’t go to movies, and I watch very little TV (no Netflix or other subscriptions). I do watch a lot of hockey but I can see and hear the TV from where my computers are, so I try to have the computers running and converting audio files/burning discs while watching hockey.

    I do get to listen to a lot of GOGD.

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    Ah-ha! Now that makes sense.

    Thanks JACK BALLER!
    I now know with the help of your response and a quick google search that Rip Van Winkle is one of the Great Northern Catskills best-loved figureheads.
    That makes so much sense, and the regional touch is really cool.

    This came out in 1996 and I've always questioned the marketing angle as the first thing I thought of was why would they release this if they thought it was a snooze fest?

    But lo!! It's quite a bit more clever than I.. and it's pretty keen.
    (I didn't recognize ole Rip in the bushes and thought that was just some stoned hippie laying there;)

    That clears up a lot and makes me like this release that much more.

    DAVE ROCK: Dosin' at the Knick ain't bad either as I'm sure there was a lot of that too...

    Well, you just can't beat that.
    Good music and I learned a few things.

    The Good Ole Grateful Dead strikes again!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Well, hopefully there are no Pigpen haters on here, or haters of any kind come to that. If such a beast exists, I would definitely advise him or her not to skip the Lovelights from the Europe 72 tour - all very differently styled to the ones played in 1971. Or any of the preceding years come to that.

I'm obviously only expressing one view point when I post on here, incidentally. In no way would want anyone to think I disrespected the opposite view - or that I expected them to agree with the one I expressed. The great thing about being on here - in theory - is that everybody loves the same band - but often for radically different reasons . And the more varied the views are that are expressed, the more interesting things become. The problem is never in seeing things"your" way, but in expecting others to as well.
Anyway - this isn't my natural habitat, so I'll shuffle off now, and leave you in peace. Hope it continues to grow in this space.

And if we are doing 5/3 might as well stick around for the jazzy Dark Star from the 4th. Other Ones and Dark Stars and Gargoyle's Oh My!

hey... it looks like the renovation of Notre Dame will conclude sometime next year. A crazy celebration will likely ensue probably without fireworks and assorted celebratory acts.

non fumeur s'il vous plait

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 05/04/2023 - 05:36

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Another monster show. Let's do it Jim.

For Friday I was thinking 2/26/81 from the Uptown Theater. Hopefully this one isn't a repeat.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 05/04/2023 - 11:04

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and a dollar short. Did DaP20 12-9-81 Boulder today.
My short review would be meh, pretty good.
While many songs were good versions, overall not terribly impressive.
Typical sound issues at first and got worse into second song and then the Jack Straw how does this song go meltdown was almost humorous but as Jer said in an interview, "We cling to each other in moments of horror". Nice long set though. Has both the China/Rider and the Scarlet/ Fire on either side of the set break for those still trying to decide which is their favorite, but again nothing that really had the secret sauce. Seemed to go matrix sounding with audience audible in second set? 7 inch reels and not cassette though.
Just didn't seem to have that ephemeral thing that makes you say, yes that's why they picked this one. Only the second or third 80's release by then maybe? Could be a distracted listen is at fault but any listening is better than none.
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Edit: Cue the Twilight Zone music, this is post 7006 on this thread, my childhood address in Littleton, CO

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Submitted by Obeah on Thu, 05/04/2023 - 12:46

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I didn't start subscribing to Dave's Picks until the following year, so DaP #21, but when I saw this show was an official release I went and tracked down a copy. Back in the day, my intro to 1981 GD had been 7/5/81 Zoo Amphitheater, and that made me wake up to the possibilities (my collection at that time was mostly '68-'78) so when the next person I traded with sent me his list and he had a bunch of early 80s boards I said, basically, "pick the hottest show of '81 and send it to me" and this night in Boulder was his choice.

Now obviously that's debatable, and when I played the first cassette and heard that Jack Straw, I thought maybe the guy had been having a laugh at my expense. At the time I didn't even have a Deadbase so I didn't know this was the final night of that short winter tour, but I feel like it shows. That setlist looks like a reward for the folks who came out on tour in the cold rain and snow. Personally I love the Drums->Space->Other One->Stella Blue...

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 05/04/2023 - 13:11

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I agree, the best part of the show that I forgot to mention.
They finally caught fire, as often happens, in the crux of the jam.
We need more '80s Dave. Throwing one out there, Santa Fe '83?
Cheers

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 05/05/2023 - 04:20

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Based on choices here, I was able to tune into 9-10-93 and 2-27-81.

I'll be checking out that E72, 5-3, 5-4 and for extra credit 5-10 (dynamite). I also wanted to check out 2-26-81 and Richfield 1991. What's the pick of the litter there? 9-6-91?

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Submitted by bluecrow on Fri, 05/05/2023 - 07:46

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Been busy and out in the field. I'll try to work in the 2 Paris shows, at least the deep jams, this weekend. I had the 3 lp E72 album in my early days and it very much informed my listening, but it was an n-th generation cassette SBD from Rotterdam 5/11/72 that had me really and truly grok what the Europe tour was about. Dark Star > Sugar Magnolia > Caution (Who Do You Love verse) > Trucking > Uncle Johns. That's my fave jam from the tour. A mid-summer night listen back in summer '87 or so that will forever be burned in my memory as to how profoundly it influenced my "ear" for the Dead.

Always up for some Uptown Theatre (2/27/81). Before I headed out last week I marveled at the 1st set of 8/6/82 St Paul, which was in the Tapers Section. JOTW as of today is 8/14/71 BCT (haven't gotten to it yet.) Sweet pair of shows 8/14 and 8/15.

Here Comes Sunshine, 5 shows from late spring '73, is a "dream" box for me. I'm sure I suggested it here in the semi-regular what-box-would-you-like-to-see sessions. Never thought it would happen in this purest of forms, all 5 shows!

Take care folks.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 05/05/2023 - 22:01

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Hey Bluecrow, could not agree more, super excited for Here Comes Sunshine and love the fact we should have it maybe before the fourth of July. Extra bonus we get a MUATM in June and Wrigley June 91!
Yes, the St. Paul show in August 82 is really good, right before those Alpine shows, which I believe you were at. You lucky guy.

Be well all.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Sat, 05/06/2023 - 03:07

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Hello once again, rockers!

Pick Of The Day: MIT free show May 6, 1970

What sculpture is to a block of marble, education is to the soul…..

May in New England. The weather was cold, but the music was hot…………

Not much wasted time, or space, here. Opening with Dancin’, there’s decent grease, jamming, and rock and roll. Who couldn’t go for a short, sharp shot of 1970 good old Grateful Dead on a blustery Spring day?

Apparently some smart folks at MIT had the foresight---and ability---to record this little gem, which has circulated since the dawn of time. Much to our advantage, and might even make a nice little official release some day………..

Rock on!

Doc
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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 05/06/2023 - 10:04

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Damn - it is a great one!! Love the sound of those early Dancings! Love the later ones too like 10/1/77. Alas, never got one in my GD concert days.

2545 DaP46 arrived this morning ahead of schedule (was due Monday) and right on time for a weekend listen!!

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Submitted by berman. on Sun, 05/07/2023 - 03:06

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Mason”s Children alone is worth the trip … (btw, anyone ever notice they revamped the intro on it just after the next time they performed it ?) .. listen to the …Good Lovin’ on… quality prior is mediocre .. the banter is classic, too.. one of my 1st 5 bootlegs

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 05/09/2023 - 12:54

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Circling back on this show from last week. Definitely worth a listen. Recording is great. First show of 1981 coming off a banner year in 1980. Solid first set with Feel Like a Stranger, Althea, throw in a Birdsong, Peggy O, TMNS. Start the second set with an explosive China Rider, Samson, He's Gone, Truckin, Black Peter, GDTRFB, and finish it up with JBG and US Blues encore. What a show. I will have to take a look at the other shows from the Uptown.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 05/10/2023 - 03:20

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I'm going to give a shot to that one and with that I will have completed the opening trio of shows from 1981.

So far 2/26>2/27 for me...

Going with the Seamons matrix on 2/28.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 05/10/2023 - 05:23

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Nice work WTJ.

Thoughts?

I will get the other two going.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 05/12/2023 - 02:01

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Just enjoying the jams. Hollywood was a nice diversion, btw. Definitely a festival tape.

Up to drums and space on 2/28 now and the sound on the Chappell matrix is fine.

Happy weekend, folks :-)

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Sun, 05/14/2023 - 01:14

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Happy Sunday, fellow rockers!!

Pick Of The Day: Merramec Community College May 14 1970

Loss and possession, death and life are one, there falls no shadow where there shines no sun…..

This was such an appealing format. We’ll start you off with some mellow acoustic tunes, and then finish you off with some highly charged, highly amplified psychedelic electric Grateful Dead. And THEN maybe toss in an acoustic encore. A format lost but not forgotten.......

The five song acoustic set is short by sweet. The electric set crackles with energy, with a really good dose of greasy Pigpen (including back-to-back Good Lovin’ and Schoolgirl [one of the last pigpen versions]), substantial country-westernish stoner Americana, the first Attics Of My Life, a fully electric New Speedway that includes a short Nobody’s Fault jam, and a St Stephan. And for all you Lovelight haters out there, short at a mere 17 minutes. And they send everybody home with a lovely Cold Jordan…..

Not as famous as Harpur College or the Fillmore East show the following night, but without a doubt worthy of a serious listen!!!

There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out……

Rock on!!

Doc
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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 05/16/2023 - 21:53

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Alright WTJ, I am in on that great show for tomorrow.

Thanks.

Also, can't say enough good things about that Uptown Theater February 81 run. 2/27 is even better than 2/26.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 05/17/2023 - 03:03

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Hey now DV, I went through all 3 Chicago Uptown 1981 shows. I thought they were all strong with the bookend shows catching my ear in a different way on my relistens. It would take several more listens to refine my position, really though all 3 shows are strong and, in my opinion, really benefitted from the matrix treatment by Chappell or Seamons.

As for more show reccos, over on the SHF they are offering up 'Alternative 30 Trips'. Here's an example of a dead freak created list. Some good, and in some cases, lesser known gems in there.

1966 - 11/19/66
1967 - 11/11/67
1968 - 10/12/68
1969 - 4/22/69
1970 - 6/24/70
1971 - 8/6/71
1972 - 9/10/72
1973 - 12/1/73
1974 - 5/12/74
1975 - 6/17/75
1976 - 10/15/76
1977 - 6/4/77
1978 - 6/4/78
1979 - 12/1/79
1980 - 10/31/80
1981 - 8/28/81
1982 - 4/19/82
1983 - 9/11/83
1984 - 12/29/84
1985 - 7/1/85
1986 - 4/19/86
1987 - 9/8/87
1988 - 7/2/88
1989 - 8/19/89
1990 - 7/12/90
1991 - 10/31/91
1992 - 12/3/92
1993 - 8/21/93
1994 - 10/17/94
1995 - 6/25/95

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 05/17/2023 - 04:18

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I would have enjoyed chipping in on that one. As it happens, though, Daves 46 arrived yesterday, and from the early hours of tomorrow I will be spending 24 hours in a music free zone. Its unlikely it will still be on the agenda after that, but if it is..

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 05/17/2023 - 05:15

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1966 - 7/16/66
1967- 5/5/67
1968 - 3/16/68
1969 - 6/7/69
1970 - 9/19/70
1971 - 2/20/71
1972 - 9/16/72
1973 - 2/15/73
1974 - 9/20/74
1975 - 3/23/75
1976 - 6/3/76
1977 - 10/12/77
1978 - 11/23/78
1979 - 10/25/79
1980 - 9/6/80
1981 - 9/26/81
1982 - 10/10/82
1983 - 4/12/83
1984 - 11/2/84
1985 - 11/21/85
1986 - 4/21/86
1987 - 7/8/87
1988 - 9/16/88
1989 - 6/19/89
1990 - 9/14/90
1991 - 4/28/91
1992 - 6/17/92
1993 - 3/17/93
1994 - 9/17/94
1995 - 6/2/95

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Submitted by PT Barnum on Wed, 05/17/2023 - 10:14

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wow, now I could go for another 30 trips box, the first one was soooo cool. I got to say this, What about Gainesville? 1980 show that still has not seen the light of day, the one before and the one after but not Gainesville. So that would be my pick for 1980, for 95, I got to go with 4-1 or 2 or the Birmingham show. 94 Spring any. More but that's just off the top of me head. Again, anything from 67-70 would be mighty fine.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 05/17/2023 - 11:09

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What about Gainesville? I always thought it was funny that in the 30 trips liner notes from the Lakeland 1980 trip, Dave either on purpose or by sheer coincidence completely ignores Gainesville. Anyway, I always thought that November SE 1980 set ran together better as a group of 4, kind of like 5-5, 5-7, 5-8 and 5-9-1977 FWIW

Also, FWIW just wrapping up 9-26-81 with the Encore on Chuck Berry's B-Day no less. Where'd Weir get that, his trusty almanac? I like the idea of 30 Alternative Trips and I wanted to hear a Shakedown Street, so picked a dead freak curated one for today.

Have a Grateful Day everyone. :-)

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Thu, 05/18/2023 - 04:35

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Mornin', rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Munich May 18 1972

Just before the supernova Lyceum shows. Quite substantial. Dark Star. Dew. Sing Me Back Home. Underrated and absolutely worth a listen...........

Off to the morgue......

Rock on,

Doc
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Last 5:
Dead 5/18/72
Ellington:
1943-12-11 Carnegie Hall
1945-09-24 New Zanzibar
1948-12-10 Cornell. Now there's a Cornell worth listening to!!! LOL...........
1949-02-xx Hollywood Empire
Simply amazing stuff, maybe I was born too late.............

Munich, what a monster show. Yes, I think I will pop this one in today.

WTJ, I am assuming you listened to a audience version of the September 81 show?

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 05/18/2023 - 16:30

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Went w/ the Chappell Matrix. I'm a sucker for a good matrix and am usually quite satisfied with them. Early 80's benefit most from the matrix treatment imo. Why did Rhino/GDP go with a matrix on DaP 8 and not on the 1980 Lakeland Trip?

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 05/19/2023 - 04:38

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There's nothing like it for me, because you can really hear the nuance. For me today it's 6-17-92 (first half of set II virtually identical to 6-28 Deer Creek) and if I have time on deck is, 12-3-92. I swear I'll get back to E72. Isn't Munich Moses Quasar's favorite? Just like Lille is Bolo's??

:-) :-) :-) It's Friday. Make it Grateful today all!!!!

-edit- What the heck melody is it they're toying with before Jackaroe on 6-17-92 set I?

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 05/21/2023 - 02:32

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Sounded like it could be a jazz standard to me, but TBH my knowledge of classical music is far greater than my jazz chops. Vinny brought some classical chops back to the dead as I listen back. He was pulling out all sorts of Chopin and Beethoven here and there if you listen for it. And now, to chip away at the list. I know I will not be able to get to it all. The nuggets I've extracted thus far are 6-3-76, 6-17-92, 12-3-92, 9-26-81 and 11-23-78 (a couple weeks ago)

Finding I am enjoying Vince's contribution to the band more than I used to. Anyway, Staying Grateful here. 5-18-72 was nice for yesterday. I listen to 5-19-77 all the time. One I don't is 6-4-77. Hmmm. Something I might remedy later :-) :-)¯ :-)

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 05/21/2023 - 08:00

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Yes, 6/4/77, at one point we were searching for the lost soundboard. Not sure if they ever found one or had one returned. The audience is a little rough.

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Submitted by Obeah on Sun, 05/21/2023 - 11:02

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I thought I read (New Yorker? Nick P. article?) is that one big reason for the matrix release on DaP8 was because of the standout quality of the AUD. But that's 10 years ago, and my memory isn't to be trusted.

But speaking of the Fox, WTJ mentions that 5/19 show! Ahhhh. I, too, have that one in very regular rotation. It was like this back in the day, as set II was the very first tape I ever had from 1977. It was probably 20 years later before I ever heard the first set, and when I finally did it was so lovely to realize it was a cracklin' hot show from start to finish. I was glad that confirm that I hadn't placed a sort of 'newbie bias' on the show simply because it was a really early tape in my collection. I have the May '77 boxset that covers the week before, and it's all good stuff -- but I always come home to 5/19.

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Submitted by Obeah on Sun, 05/21/2023 - 12:18

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I just realized that I have Don't Let Go in my collection (aka JGB 5/21/76 at the Orpheum) and I've never listened to it. Got it playing now. I see it was a Friday night show, but it's working wonders for my Sunday afternoon. Cheers all

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Wed, 05/24/2023 - 01:37

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Good morning, rockers!

Pick Of The Day: Newcastle-under-Lyme, England May 24 1970

They'll always be an England, even if it's in Hollywood…………

A year after the Big Rock Pow Wow and here we are at another festival. From West Hollywood Florida to the Hollywood Festival, it’s the Dead’s first live appearance in Europe, and they deliver a fine show.

Decent amounts of grease. Two big jam sequences. A rare Attics Of My Life. There are some audience patches on circulating copies, but still worth a listen!

England is the paradise of women, the purgatory of men, and the hell of horses…..

Rock on!!

Doc
Whatever was the conduct of England, I am equally arraigned……..

Needed a boost today. Decided to fire up 8/13/1975 or One from the Vault.
Who is with me?

A few years ago I bought the remastered version they put out in 2007, man is it good.

Just love that introduction! The anticipation of breaking into Help on the Way.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 05/25/2023 - 09:25

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It's been a while since I fired up 1ftv. I have the original GDM cds ripped to my FIIO X5. I'm hitting the road tomorrow so I will definitely tune into that since it has been a while since I did. Anyway, yeah that Bill Graham intro. sets the stage nicely. Are the remastered discs out of order, too? I should do something about that in my digital files....

Thanks for the picks and Have a Grateful Day all. :-)

P.S. DV have you ever been to or heard of the Casey Jones memorial trail near Pipestone? That's somewhere I will be visiting someday since I'm just a state over....

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Submitted by dmcvt on Thu, 05/25/2023 - 09:26

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Out for the afternoon, set this up for this evening. Funny yesterday, thinking of this very one for H/S/F. Dan Healy's intro text ends with: "This represents the beginning of the release of the vault tapes". Who knew, the music never stopped.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Thu, 05/25/2023 - 12:11

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In the top 10 of all-time Dead shows.

Still hits the spot. Such a unique show and the recording is so good. Thank you Don Pearson and Dan Healy.

When I discovered the Dead in 85 and eventually picked up Blues for Allah, I remember thinking, wow, this release is definitely out there and at the same time so good. I used to have a Blues for Allah tapestry, loved it. I think it was thrown away during our last move.

Anyway, enjoyed the revisit today. Hope you all enjoy it as well.

If you don't have the remastered version, it is worth picking up.

WTJ, I didn't know the song order was off?
Never been to the Casey Jones Trial in Pipestone, but it looks fun.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 05/25/2023 - 23:29

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This was possibly the first live Dead I heard apart from the Dark Star from Wembley 4/8/72, on the Glastonbury Fayre triple album. About an hour of it was broadcast on the radio, which I taped. I think it was this recording that was then circulated as the bootleg "Make Believe Ballroom." I'll dig it out later - the official recording I mean. It's lasted the distance better than most music from 1975, that's for sure.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Fri, 05/26/2023 - 01:15

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My friends!!!

Pick Of The Day: Lyceum Theater, London May 26 1972

The wise man must remember that while he is a descendant of the past, he is a parent of the future.......

The last show of the great and powerful, best ever Dead tour, and the last classic show with Pigpen still on board. Every show on the tour was a gem, but somehow the band really kicked it into overdrive for this one. Sides five and six of the original release were so intensely burned into our memories during those Saturday night tripping parties in high school, starting when it originally came out in November of 1972. It's been my favorite E72 show since forever, and yes I revisit it frequently. You should too!!!

In fact, I'm going to crank it up, way loud, on my morning commute today..............

The distinction between the past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion...........

Rock on, rockers!!!

Doc
Fear not for the future, weep not for the past......

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 05/26/2023 - 05:12

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According to my DeadBase X after a cursory look, the set break should be after Stronger than Dirt. Around and Around opens set 2. Not sure if there are other differences, but I might sleuth it later.

Stay safe all and Best Wishes. :-) :-) :-)

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 05/26/2023 - 08:18

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Have it going now, how could you pass it up. Disc 3 is some of the best Dead music you will ever hear.

Interesting WTJ, I have never owned a Deadbase.

Enjoy the weekend out there. Finally nice here in MN and plan on enjoying it to the fullest.

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 05/26/2023 - 10:10

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A great sounding show, and one that has grown on me over the years. It doesn't really sound like any other show to me. The first set - second set structure doesn't seem to apply to this one, with Help-Slipknot-Franklins being maybe the highlight of the show, as well as the first numbers played. Great bass on Eyes of the World, and that's only the 5th song of the first set. I'll listen to the rest this evening.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 09:52

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The Great American Music Hall.
The very first peak into the vault, truly a mysterious wonder in those daze…
Hadn’t heard this in forever. It really doesn’t sound like anything else does it?
Not like WOS 74, and not too much like post hiatus 76? So, in other words, cool sheet Mon!
Fully dug, especially the aural bliss. This one’s so clean extreme volume is easily obtainable lol.
Yassss, the H/S/F is magnificence. The other newbies are clear, precise, and fresh, if not the fully formed transporters they’d grow into. The old standbys are same mo as above, good but…?. After such a long listening absence, fresh perspective noticed the somewhat lack of extension on many of the songs. Remember thinking this would be top shelf if there was only a big, then…then, we get that sweet awesome Allah!!! This is the GD at their finest, matching the spaciest Other One or the scariest DS! I’ve felt and said all along, though they have so many great songs, everybody has songs, only the Dead can pull this otherworldly goodness off, and, not have it just sound like noodling.
Cool pick, fully dug!! And hey, it didn’t require a calendar ; )
Now where did mama hide those cookies up here?

EDIT: oh, can’t forget to mention 2 of my favorite Dead songs here, Stronger Than Dirt, and Sage and Spirit!
Boo yah!

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 10:39

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Yes, I like Stronger Than Dirt and Sage and Spirit a lot, too. Pity they got retired off so soon. I might dig out the cd with the acoustic Sage and Spirit on later - 2nd disc of the cd of "Reckoning". 10/31/80 Radio City, New York. I've got it here, in my hand.