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    Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.
     
    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

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  • Mr. Ones
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    Was just finishing up Leonard Bernstein & the NY Philharmonic’s recording of Holst’s The Planets while catching up on this thread.
    Neptune:The Mystic fades to an end, and now, thanks to you folks; I reached over about three feet to my right, Grabbed Dick’s 12, and am ready for Jam->China->MLB->Rider. Have not played this in a while. Thanks guys!!

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    I got that about a month to six weeks ago. For years I had the Jam>C>R out of sequence in my digital library, meaning all devices, etc. And I always forgot to fix it until about a year ago.. imagine the frustration....

    No right or wrong answer.. no majority or minority. I guess what attracts me to the China Riders is that the progressed or changed more from year to year, decade to decade. It seemed to morph quicker and for a longer period where the Scarlet Fires were seemingly more stable and had less change.

    A fun topic certain to draw me out of the woodwork along with many others apparently.

    P.S. I loved the redacted passages. Creative harmless humor that seemed to solve whatever problem existed at that moment. Cracked me up. Now where were we.. ah yes.. back to our evil plans to rule the world. If you are at a loss on where to begin, might I recommend the excellent book by André De Guillaume simply titled, "How To Rule the World." It's a must read for the aspiring dictator in us all. (Ooops, should I have redacted some of that?)

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    That '74 Providence China -> Rider though....

    ....oh yeah Angry Jack. First time I heard that, I think I replayed it three or four times. Still have it on tape.
    As a matter of fact, I haven't listened to it for a while, so its going in.....now.
    It's approximately 20 minutes long. Same length as hockey intermissions. Imagine that.

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    I’ll take S>F over C>R. I prefer the 77 S>Fs over any other year. The spring tour specifically. Agreed that 72-74 was the peak for C>R. The duo seemed to lose something once the band discontinued MLB during the transition.

    That being said, the 6/26/74 C>R from DP12 trumps all of the versions of both combinations. For me at least. One of my favorite pieces of GD music.

    The Devils are flying. Hope they can continue the momentum.

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    China Rider all the way for me...

    I agree on 5/3/72 and 8/27/72 as standouts, but the off the beaten track sleepers always pull me in.

    I was thinking about this very topic over the weekend I had a mystery waterproof device playing while I was on the river.. I have five or six waterproof shuffles and never know what's playing. I think it was 2/24/74, anyway.. it got me thinking about the under the radar excellent versions. For me, a couple that sneak up on you are 5/24/72 Lyceum, 5/17/74 Vancouver and toss in 7/9/89 Giants Stadium simply because I listened to it Saturday night and it's one of those versions where there's is a verse flub and boy did they make hay filling in the empty space with some incredible playing.

    Anyway, like someone else in this thread commented, it does a good job of highlighting all the things the GD did that no other band seems to have been able to crystalize so purely, it almost seems effortless but we know better. Man, I miss Jerry.. a 20th century heavyweight.

    Love the stand alone Scarlets but there's a few Scarlet Fires I really like, both pre and post Brent. Still.. I could listen to enjoy sequential listens of every China Eleven and China Rider they ever did and never get bored.

    That's all I've got.. back to the taboo topics and psycedellic mayhem that makes us all tick.

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    Have had a tracking number since Thursday, but still not tracking. Whatever. I've been in this situation before where it showed up and there was never any tracking. Not confident with the ole USPS. Three weeks ago, had a mail stop for a road trip to Nashville and Memphis. Came home to a box full of mail.

    Used to be Scarlet>Fire. Now I'm more China>Rider. But that's like picking which child you love more.

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    Checked tracking this morning, said it was 150 miles away and would deliver by Saturday May 6. My tiny rural PO is temporarily closed for repairs, those who do not get home delivery have to pick up at another PO for a while. And there it was, a total surprise. Just the first disc in so far, first impression. Simply excellent, strong vocals, great Bird Song, Jeffrey Norman has done magic again and of course, it's a Bear to begin with. Would not be surprised if this sells out before 45.

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    Crow - I was about to write a post with exactly the same message you wrote re China-Rider. And I would have referenced the same one , from the original Europe 72 album. It's got so much of what I like about the band in a short space....well, what you said basically. The other one that came to mind was the one from 8/27/72.

    I also like the stand alone Scarlets. I like the fact that the 77 versions of Scarlet-Fire have such a different feel to them than anything they played pre-retirement - a bit calypso to me sometimes -a World music vibe. Trouble is I'm not always that keen on it! Definitely good to hear now and again though.

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    Bonus Disk Set list.
    1. Bertha -6:24
    2. Greatest Story Ever Told -5:33
    3. Bird Song -11:01
    4. Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toddeloo -7:03
    5. BrokeDown Palace -5:45
    *** 9/19/72 Jersey City, NJ Rosevelt Stadium
    6. China Cat Sunflower- 6:43
    7. I Know You Rider- 5:59
    8. Brown-Eyed Woman -5:26
    9. Trucking -10:24
    10. Cold Rain & Snow- 5:30
    11. Ramble On Rose- 6:17
    *** 9/3/72 Boulder, CO ‘Folsom Field

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    I've sometimes thought that if somebody who had never heard the GD asked me for one track they could listen to that would clue them in to why the band is so special, I might choose China-Rider. It's got a little of everything: some psychedelia, some funk, some jamming, some country/folk. If we listen to, say, the one from Europe '72, we get absolutely fantastic interplay between Jer and Bob's guitars. And it's a really good showcase for everything we love about Jerry's vocals.

    I'm always up for a good Scar-Fire, but I do think they're probably less consistent than China-Rider.

    Got my shipping notice a couple days ago, still shows "status not available" when I try to use the tracking number. Whatever. It'll get here in a week or so.

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Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.
 
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

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The Dave’s discs ship from Carlsbad, CA.
I’m two hours away in Pasadena.
It typically takes about two weeks for the latest release to arrive after I receive the shipping notice.
Got my notice last Thursday.
I know Cali’s a big state but still… that’s some serious postal meandering right there.
Meanwhile, I live vicariously through those of you in other places who have gotten yours already.

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So I just got home from lacrosse and turned on the TV. Not sure what’s worse. Watching my daughter’s team lose 19-3 or finding out that the Leafs blew a 2-0 lead in a must win game.

We’ve got one period to salvage this season.

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....dammit.
I don't agree on the "must win game" regarding game 2's. The next game is though.
I've watched movies like this before. Anywho.
Last Five.
The Animals - Retrospective
Phish- San Diego 12.8.94
My Morning Jacket - The Waterfall II
GOGD - Portland 6.24.73
King Diamond - Abigail

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I stopped worrying about that stuff long ago. It builds character. She is part of a team and the girls are having a lot of fun. Besides, she was the 3.

Don’t start the Blue Jays talk quite yet. Florida still needs two more. But it’s not looking good.

Mention of The Animals - I sometimes listen to albums from specific years that I have,to encourage me to get things out I haven't heard for a while. At the moment I am digging things out from 1965, and yesterday, that included The Animals E.P. Collection. I tend to overlook them amongst their peers - possibly because they were less guitar orientated. Big mistake - Eric Burden had more R'N'B authority than most of his ilk.

Not like Howlin' Wolf though. A great book I am reading at the moment is his biography - "Moanin' At Midnight" by James Segrest and Mark Hoffman. A truly incredible life really well told. I found out that he used to perform "Smokestack Lightnin'" in the 1930's on street corners with a guitar and two harmonicas on a rack. Apparently he blew them both at the same time, one through his mouth and one through his nose. I wonder why that didn't catch on? His records, especially the early ones he cut in Memphis, now sound so down home as to be surreal.

Clear Dead connection here, too, with covers of the aforementioned "Smokestack", "The Red Rooster" ( rock groups always seem to refer to this as "Little Red Rooster") and "Spoonful" peppering set lists off and on over the years. Maybe others, too.

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I’m certainly not throwing in the towel, that’s for sure. Just sloppy play that needs cleaning up.
As for the other, I totally agree - I had my kids in hockey, soccer, football, swimming etc etc, and saw some big wins and bad losses, and they grew up taking both in stride - equally.
VGuy - thanks for the support! It is only 2 games.

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I would love if the audio is in the same league as 11/17/72 (DaP 11).

Would also love if this thing would end up in my mailbox, but I think I'm a good several days away. 300+ shows on my phone and this is the only one I want to hear.

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I received an email on Thursday April 27 stating DP 46 has shipped. Today I again entered the tracking number and finally received an update that stated it was received at the USPS depot on May 4. It seems as though the Howard, Fine, and Howard company is in charge of shipping. Is this common for everyone else waiting for Dave's Picks?

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Vocals only appear in one channel. Why do they release this stuff if it’s not listenable? An earlier DaP had the same issue. Great show but unlistenable

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I did some comparative listening with DaP #11 and #46. I think you'll be happy with audio on #46. My home system is Polk Audio powered by Yamaha and it sounds great to my ears! Enjoy

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The thing about the Animals is that they’re always going to be compared to the Stones and the Yardbirds, if not also the Beatles, Kinks, Who etc etc etc. England was just raining excellent groups on us in those days, and as good as the Animals were, they probably weren’t as good as the above. Hence the relative neglect. But pretty damned good nonetheless! I spose I’ll have to dig out Animalization later.

Right now I’m listening to vinyl reissue of Bear’s Choice. Now, dig this: I went down to my local record store to pick this up, because I had some store credit. Last week, I sold ‘em 7-8 albums I figured I didn’t need, and they gave me $70 in store credit. Today, I went in the store and saw two of those records for sale: for $39 each! Those fuckers. Wonder what they charged people for the other five.

Anyway, the Bear’s Choice reissue sounds great. Clean, flat vinyl.

Looks like my DaP 46 has made it all the way from Fontana to Carlsbad. Should be here in a few days. Passing the time by listening to the ’73 shows from the Northwest box, which must be the most underrated of all GD box sets.

Well, I got one foot on the platform
The other foot on the train
I'm goin' back to New Orleans
To wear that ball and chain

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Thank you to the Bear's and Betty's and All the other ones all and any that took the time for the love of The Grateful Dead to make these tapes that somehow how lasted this long to be cleaned up from what source material is available to give us these releases we all enjoy for so many years. We all know these tapes most if all were never made for release and for most being nearly 30+ years old we are so lucky to get to hear any of these that could be hoarded away, held for ransom, burnt in a fire or destroyed by the ravages of time. I have listened to this 2-3 times already this week there is nothing wrong with any part of the recording that is presented in DP Vol 46.

Been enjoying Tom Petty live at Fillmore this week too, Really good piano solo during a ripping Call me the Breeze.

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Sorry I missed ya'? Or, it was great seeing ya'? Eh, no need to get caught up in the details. But great shows indeed! I'm listing to Saturday night as I type this. Neumann u89i pulls. Like I'm right back there. Which was dead center, second section from the top-- crystal clear sound and a light show that enveloped me ear to ear.

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That's how Owsley Stanley, their first soundman and recordist always mixed his tapes. I guess you'll want to avoid Dave's Picks 6, 10, 11, 19, 24, 30, or 43, as they are similarly subpar garbage not worth listening to; so send your copies my way, and I'll make sure they are disposed of properly so that no one's ears may be befouled in future by their crazy panning of vocals. Also, you may want to avoid entirely the Owsley Stanley Foundations awful musical archive release project which is helping to propagate such foolishness upon people as Johnny Cash or Doc Watson singing on one channel and all the music maddeningly emanating from just the other. Never mind the genius behind such aural masterpieces as Old and in the Way, which was the best selling bluegrass album of all time for 25 years until the O Brother soundtrack knocked off its perch.

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Maple Leafs WILL win game 3!! No doubt about the outcome!!
In other news… Last 5:

The Lord + Petra Haden-Devotional
Elton John-Honky Chateau
Nickel Creek-Celebrants
Jeff Beck-There And Back
David Sanborn-Another Hand

That’s all the news that’s fit to print.

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These fall 72 versions are simply fantastic!

It's a beautiful morning here in Western Maryland so I think I'm gonna que up DaP #46, walk the dogs, and take a bike ride on the C&O Canal.

Cheers, gang!

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Looks like mine will be showing up on the south shore of Lake Erie today. For those of you with shipping/tracking questions, it happens to most. They use UPS Mail Innovations, where UPS gets the package, then takes it to the USPS. My original e-mail came on 4/26. No update until 5/1. Then an update on 5/2. Then updates on 5/4, 5 and 6. That’s pretty much par for the course.

Working until 12:30ish, lunch with my brother, then opening up the patio. Could not have timed the arrival any better!

Yes, things can be a little ( or a lot) screwy with shipping notifications and delays and such.

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Chicago suburbs here. I got my CD last Saturday, April 29th.

My question is on the CD info. When I put the CD in my PC and load it into iTunes, only Disc 4 and the Bonus CD track info can be found. Too lazy to manually load track info. Does this just take time for the info to get uploaded to Gracenotes or whoever runs this stuff ? I know its a first world problem.

This Bonus disc is fire. Love it. Any chance there are any overseas nuggz in the works for an upcoming release; Copenhagen, Aarhus, Wigan, Paris, Amsterdam, Luxemburg.

2545 arrived in the high desert this morning. A pleasant surprise and so very nice to have it for a weekend first listen. Wasn't scheduled until Monday and based on the tracking a big thank you to the Provo hub that turned this around real quick yesterday. Oro and 1stShow, yours could be waiting at the PO as I type!

Enjoy the weekend everybody!

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Having just finished listening to Paris 5/3/72, I have to say this must be one of the best shows they ever played. It's all really good, but that sequence of music from Truckin' to Wharf Rat is the heart and soul. Great rocking finale from Sugar Magnolia to One More Saturday Night too. Hopefully more shows from this tour will eventually come out on vinyl. But if it doesn't, I am well pleased with what has come out.

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Not quite yet though BC. Would likely have it if it didn't divert from GJ to Denver first where it says it currently sits. Maybe Monday if I'm lucky.
Got itchy for the HCS selections so I tried my tape of Kezar. Wow! This is far and away the best tape I have! The sound rivals CDs. Amazing separation and soundstage. It says it is a digitally remastered SBD but all I know is I got it from an experienced east coast deadhead and tape trader in the late 90's when we worked together here in CO. It appears I recorded it but if it was tape to tape and not tape from CD it is incredible. Had tape speed issues back in the day using two decks which was what we all did before double decks came around. But this one is dead on speed, so to speak. Loving it!
Cheers
Edit: Jeez, what a great show this Kezar is. They always sounded energized at daytime shows. The first show after Pig's death maybe? There must be CDs of this floating around because this tape sounds too good to be true. Stunning!

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Bluecrow, nice sentiment, but 46 is currently in Denver and needs to pass within a mile and a half of our house again going to GJ, then back here…saying Wednesday by 7:00, which prolly means Thursday, just after they close the front, though they’ll log it in earlier, but hey, every now and then from time to time….whatevs, long as it gets here.
But awesome you’ll be able to give it the proper love it needs, enjoy amigo!

BIG STEVE: when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro!
Good thoughts your way! We are everywhere, and we’re with ya, kinda like the Borg ; )

MIKE: it’s the water I’m telling ya…

Europe: everyone knows the biggies, I always really dug Rotterdam.
I don’t know, maybe it was the tulips?

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I was thinking UPS would throw it off the back of the truck in Junction, didn't realize the hand-off hub was Denver. 2 more days built into that. Oof. Our hand off is Salt Lick hub, which then passes if off to the Provo hub which handles mail for our part of the state. For whatever reason, the Provo folks got mine headed south a solid "postal day" faster than usual, which meant delivery today rather than Monday.

Apropos of nothing I was spinning the WOS road trips bonus disc first time in a good while on my drive home from NM a couple days ago and that sequence from Des Moines - Trucking>Nobodys>MLB tease>Wharf Rat>Going Down The Road - was a force of nature/thing of beauty/ass kicking good time. Damn that Trucking is fun!

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I remember that Record Store Day, getting 5/3/72 home, thinking, "I'll just check out one record, see how it sounds...", and over 3 hours later, I had played the whole thing in one sitting. It was real, and it was spectacular.

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I've uploaded episode 004 of DTV from July 1988. It features interviews with
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I went simple today, grilled a bunch of anduille sausages: beer, Sierra Nevada Torpedoes, Music, you know what it is.. I put allot on my sausage, peppers,pickles , onions, mustard, the more the better. Lets go S.F Giants!

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In the Bay Area, looks great! Dave its high time for a 1968, 1969, 1970 box set, you heard it here first.

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....don't forget sport peppers!! Yum.
Prepping for puck drop soon.
Thought about going to the game, but figured I'd bide my time and go to game 5 next Friday. Unless the Knights sweep, which I don't believe they will. Tix average $220 for upper bowl. Comparing prices to the other teams, Vegas is actually on the less expensive side. Go figure.
Noticed Dicks 12 was still in the carousel. Disc 3 it is.
WRS ->
Jam ->
US Blues
Promised Land ->
GDTRFB ->
Sunshine Daydream
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Ship Of Fools
That'll work. That Jam is just sooooo good. They ALMOST go into Dark Star. 🌟 Twice.
The cool thing about being keyed into the Grateful Dead for literally decades, is that one can pick these teases out like its second nature. It's a talent formed over time and countless hours of auditory attention.

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I popped in this afternoon just to see how people are liking DaP46. My copy is now showing Monday delivery instead of Tuesday.

In the meantime, this talk about Paris 5/3/72 has been a godsend... this show is outstanding! And yet I've hardly heard any of it before today, just the stuff on Europe 72. Back in the day I had a copy of 4/8/72 that I loved and then like so many tape traders I also had 5/23 and 5/26/72. These three London 'bookends' came to be the shows from the tour that I knew and loved. Exploring this Paris show has really graced my Saturday...thanks DAVEROCK for shouting it out <3 and I feel like there were others but perhaps that was on reddit

....Vegas getting punched in the mouth.
Guess I need to play some Paris. Unfortunately I don't have it physically. Streaming it is.

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I’ve only seen one other post about the track order. I understand with having to break things up to fit on CDs, and I’m cool with that. But the first thing I did after ripping was to put things back in the original order.
The sound really is great. Props to Bear!

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Number 3513 landed earlier today.
Been grooving to it ever since.
Sounds mint, especially blasting on my Harman Kardon rolling set up (12 speakers, 2 subwoofers).
Great energy to this gig. Audio is crisp, clear, and full.
If this recording falls into the "unlistenable" category, then I'm all for more unlistenable shows being released.

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As you pointed out, it’s likely going to be a seven game series. All the back-and-forth is what makes playoff hockey so exciting.

You can’t go wrong with 5/3/72. My favorite show of the tour.

I passed on the vinyl version because I didn’t want to flip the album twice during TOO sequence. Same reason I passed on the 6/10 vinyl purchase.

See you in Edmonton on Monday.

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....because they're expensive.
I have a budget.
I'll see you there Mister.
I was sucked into records in 1980. Hard.
Everything cool eventually comes around again. But on 180g pressings. Dammit!

Obeah - I am always drawn to the Dark Star on the following night in Paris after listening to 5/3/72. That also came out on vinyl a while back as a stand alone release. I can see how that would not appeal, though - having to turn it over half way through, but it works for me.

I don't think you would be disappointed getting any shows from this tour in whatever format takes your fancy. 5/26 is a real classic, but as Oro said a few posts back, the off the radar shows are great too. I played Newcastle 4/11/72 last week, and Goddamn if that isn't a classic too.

Obviously, I haven't got Daves 46 yet, and equally obviously this doesn't bother me a jot. This business with the codes is a load of bull.... though. I payed as a guest which I guess is why I didn't see it offered. Early bird prices, bonus discs, limited editions, secret codes....the music is great, but I can't say I care for all the gimmicks they use. They seem to like pandering to elitism, which I would have thought was against the original spirit.

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Birthday Billy, nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile.

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I just stumbled on a Shakedown on utbe from 11/24/78 Passaic, NJ pretty good audio and video! Check it out

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