• 1,210 replies
    Dead Admin
    Default Avatar
    Joined:

    Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.
     
    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

Comments

sort by
Recent
Reset
  • Mr. Ones
    Joined:
    Gustav Holst/Garcia Hunter

    Was just finishing up Leonard Bernstein & the NY Philharmonic’s recording of Holst’s The Planets while catching up on this thread.
    Neptune:The Mystic fades to an end, and now, thanks to you folks; I reached over about three feet to my right, Grabbed Dick’s 12, and am ready for Jam->China->MLB->Rider. Have not played this in a while. Thanks guys!!

  • JimInMD
    Joined:
    Providence CR

    I got that about a month to six weeks ago. For years I had the Jam>C>R out of sequence in my digital library, meaning all devices, etc. And I always forgot to fix it until about a year ago.. imagine the frustration....

    No right or wrong answer.. no majority or minority. I guess what attracts me to the China Riders is that the progressed or changed more from year to year, decade to decade. It seemed to morph quicker and for a longer period where the Scarlet Fires were seemingly more stable and had less change.

    A fun topic certain to draw me out of the woodwork along with many others apparently.

    P.S. I loved the redacted passages. Creative harmless humor that seemed to solve whatever problem existed at that moment. Cracked me up. Now where were we.. ah yes.. back to our evil plans to rule the world. If you are at a loss on where to begin, might I recommend the excellent book by André De Guillaume simply titled, "How To Rule the World." It's a must read for the aspiring dictator in us all. (Ooops, should I have redacted some of that?)

  • Vguy72
    Joined:
    That '74 Providence China -> Rider though....

    ....oh yeah Angry Jack. First time I heard that, I think I replayed it three or four times. Still have it on tape.
    As a matter of fact, I haven't listened to it for a while, so its going in.....now.
    It's approximately 20 minutes long. Same length as hockey intermissions. Imagine that.

  • Angry Jack Straw
    Joined:
    I Guess I am in the Minority

    I’ll take S>F over C>R. I prefer the 77 S>Fs over any other year. The spring tour specifically. Agreed that 72-74 was the peak for C>R. The duo seemed to lose something once the band discontinued MLB during the transition.

    That being said, the 6/26/74 C>R from DP12 trumps all of the versions of both combinations. For me at least. One of my favorite pieces of GD music.

    The Devils are flying. Hope they can continue the momentum.

  • JimInMD
    Joined:
    China Rider all the way for me...

    I agree on 5/3/72 and 8/27/72 as standouts, but the off the beaten track sleepers always pull me in.

    I was thinking about this very topic over the weekend I had a mystery waterproof device playing while I was on the river.. I have five or six waterproof shuffles and never know what's playing. I think it was 2/24/74, anyway.. it got me thinking about the under the radar excellent versions. For me, a couple that sneak up on you are 5/24/72 Lyceum, 5/17/74 Vancouver and toss in 7/9/89 Giants Stadium simply because I listened to it Saturday night and it's one of those versions where there's is a verse flub and boy did they make hay filling in the empty space with some incredible playing.

    Anyway, like someone else in this thread commented, it does a good job of highlighting all the things the GD did that no other band seems to have been able to crystalize so purely, it almost seems effortless but we know better. Man, I miss Jerry.. a 20th century heavyweight.

    Love the stand alone Scarlets but there's a few Scarlet Fires I really like, both pre and post Brent. Still.. I could listen to enjoy sequential listens of every China Eleven and China Rider they ever did and never get bored.

    That's all I've got.. back to the taboo topics and psycedellic mayhem that makes us all tick.

  • ronmarley1
    Joined:
    Couple Items

    Have had a tracking number since Thursday, but still not tracking. Whatever. I've been in this situation before where it showed up and there was never any tracking. Not confident with the ole USPS. Three weeks ago, had a mail stop for a road trip to Nashville and Memphis. Came home to a box full of mail.

    Used to be Scarlet>Fire. Now I'm more China>Rider. But that's like picking which child you love more.

  • dmcvt
    Joined:
    6674 landed

    Checked tracking this morning, said it was 150 miles away and would deliver by Saturday May 6. My tiny rural PO is temporarily closed for repairs, those who do not get home delivery have to pick up at another PO for a while. And there it was, a total surprise. Just the first disc in so far, first impression. Simply excellent, strong vocals, great Bird Song, Jeffrey Norman has done magic again and of course, it's a Bear to begin with. Would not be surprised if this sells out before 45.

  • daverock
    Joined:
    Life is so strange

    Crow - I was about to write a post with exactly the same message you wrote re China-Rider. And I would have referenced the same one , from the original Europe 72 album. It's got so much of what I like about the band in a short space....well, what you said basically. The other one that came to mind was the one from 8/27/72.

    I also like the stand alone Scarlets. I like the fact that the 77 versions of Scarlet-Fire have such a different feel to them than anything they played pre-retirement - a bit calypso to me sometimes -a World music vibe. Trouble is I'm not always that keen on it! Definitely good to hear now and again though.

  • Lovemygirl
    Joined:
    Re/ Dave’s Picks 46 Bonus Disk

    Bonus Disk Set list.
    1. Bertha -6:24
    2. Greatest Story Ever Told -5:33
    3. Bird Song -11:01
    4. Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toddeloo -7:03
    5. BrokeDown Palace -5:45
    *** 9/19/72 Jersey City, NJ Rosevelt Stadium
    6. China Cat Sunflower- 6:43
    7. I Know You Rider- 5:59
    8. Brown-Eyed Woman -5:26
    9. Trucking -10:24
    10. Cold Rain & Snow- 5:30
    11. Ramble On Rose- 6:17
    *** 9/3/72 Boulder, CO ‘Folsom Field

  • Crow Told Me
    Joined:
    I Rang a Silent Bell Beneath Something Something Something

    I've sometimes thought that if somebody who had never heard the GD asked me for one track they could listen to that would clue them in to why the band is so special, I might choose China-Rider. It's got a little of everything: some psychedelia, some funk, some jamming, some country/folk. If we listen to, say, the one from Europe '72, we get absolutely fantastic interplay between Jer and Bob's guitars. And it's a really good showcase for everything we love about Jerry's vocals.

    I'm always up for a good Scar-Fire, but I do think they're probably less consistent than China-Rider.

    Got my shipping notice a couple days ago, still shows "status not available" when I try to use the tracking number. Whatever. It'll get here in a week or so.

user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

3 years 6 months

Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.
 
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

....I've only had one. Dave's 17 Fresno.
Row Jimmy if I recall.
I got lazy and never questioned about getting a replacement.
That reminds me. I haven't spun that in a few years.
On tap for tomorrow. Maybe the skip fixed itself?

user picture

Member for

12 years 1 month

In reply to by Vguy72

Permalink

Brutal

If you haven’t already contacted the Mounties to file a missing persons report on Matthews, Marner and Tavares, please do so.

Oro - You are absolutely right about the Anchor Bar and Duffs. I was in Buffalo a few months ago and had some wings at Gabriel’s Gate. Not bad.

user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months

In reply to by Angry Jack Straw

Permalink

....and nothing to show for them. Frustrating.
Sorry Mike.
Edit. I stand corrected.

user picture

Member for

10 years
Permalink

Jack/Oro/Mr Ones - I feel a little like Max Smart now, with the old “Listen, about that Leaf Stanley Cup win…”. Florida beat them every which way, and some. Jack is right - the big guns disappeared. Leaf lament: Maybe next year.
VGuy - Looking really good for the VGK to make it to the final. They are doing a great job containing Edmonton’s dynamic duo.
The upside of having your team lose out is now just being able to enjoy watching the games for the joy of watching the sport. No favourites, no skin in the game.

user picture

Member for

4 years 3 months

In reply to by That Mike

Permalink

Or will they smack
The Stars
Hopefully they do the latter
And drive things back to Dallas
For a game 7 triumph

Sorry sweet Leafs fans
Sports will make U crazy

user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months

In reply to by proudfoot

Permalink

Ya know 46 is a win, so if the pie pull it out this evening, ole PFs gonna have him a chicken dinner ; )

Hellava game last night. Aaaa, the second one that is, sorry Miquel, at least this year they made it outta home room!

While we wait…Maybe a little comparative analysis between Other ones? Ole Dicks 23 could use a little exercise!

sez ol' man Jenkins

Whats up with the Kraken/pie thing?

Hit a milestone the other day
Went to a local burger joint
Looked at receipt
The clerk gave me a senior discount without asking or anything
I had a good laugh on that

My age finally shows

user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months

In reply to by proudfoot

Permalink

as in Octo pie ; )

user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months

In reply to by Oroborous

Permalink

....Paul McCartney & Wings - Back To The Egg
John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band
The Warning - ERROR
Iron Maiden - Piece Of Mind
Mike Gordon - Flying Games
.
Dave's 17 Fresno is in the batters box.
The Warning is a three piece sister band from Mexico. Look out for them. You heard it here first.
I've been paying attention to them for the past year or so.
Very talented. Have the looks. And the stage presence. The trifecta.
Opened for Foo Fighters and Stone Temple Pilots and will be opening for Muse later this year.
They dropped a new video yesterday. More. The video is well produced and the song kicks ass imo. I love how it slowly creeps from a 4:3 ratio to 16:9. Check em out and let me know what you think.

user picture

Member for

4 years 3 months

In reply to by Oroborous

Permalink

Woooow

Wasnt that a James Bond movie?

user picture

Member for

7 years 10 months
Permalink

Last 5:
Veneta 72
Closing of Fillmore East
Of Montreal, The Past is a Grotesque Animal (45)
Black Flag, Loose Nut
Sigue Sigue Sputnik - Flaunt It

on deck: Pussy Riot - Putin zazhigayet kostry/Putin lights (the) fires

I still haven't heard DaP46 because my copy was apparently lost by UPS. But after seeing folks on here over the years say "message Marye" I did, and she responded quickly. Thank ye kindly, Marye, I appreciate it. Happy Saturday, all!

The Redacted thing cracks me up.. a cleaver solution to a problem that never existed.

They were talking 1968 on the 73 thread. Goodness.. what a rabbit hole to climb down into.

user picture

Member for

14 years
Permalink

I realized listening to this awesome release last night ( that Playin' goes all over) that this show was 15 days after my life-changing shows at Berkeley Community Theater, when I got on the bus after Dark Star>Morning Dew on August 24. That's pretty cool.

user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months

In reply to by Oroborous

Permalink

....to all the mom's.
Going to see my mom today. We're going to watch the Knights game. She's a fan too.

user picture

Member for

10 years 2 months
Permalink

For the rest of us.
Cheers

user picture

Member for

7 years 10 months
Permalink

Indeed, a blast from the past VGUY. I somehow stumbled across a thing saying that Sputnik had put out a 4-disc set/remaster of Flaunt It, mostly remixes and b-sides but also a final CD containing a short live performance from Abbey Road. I had to check it out. Nothing really new there, and it's aged about as well as one would expect, but they had some clever hooks, I'll certainly give them that

Happy Sunday everyone. Got Garcia and Kahn 10/16/85 Santa Cruz playing rn

user picture

Member for

4 years 3 months

In reply to by Obeah

Permalink

merely ok.

Through PITB. No amazings yet. It could easily be, and duh, it is, set and setting.

Yall say good things about the jam...I'll be there soon.

Edit...finished disc 2.
Disc three wednesday (day off from work)

Still no fireworks. Hmm.

Side note...
Non GD:
various Gordon Lightfoot (what a voice. What a songwriter. Makes me verklempt every time I hear "If you could read my mind")
various Bachman-Turner Overdrive
Motorhead of course
Frank Zappa Uncle Meat

user picture

Member for

3 years
Permalink

Thank God the Grateful Dead recorded these 2 shows.

user picture

Member for

7 years 3 months
Permalink

Just finished listening to the Dark Star from this show. Had not listened in at least 3 years.
Holy Moly

user picture

Member for

10 years 10 months
Permalink

Had gotten almost all of the show itself by the time the wife and I headed for Vermont, right in the same vicinity as dmcvt was describing ticks abounding... Anyhoo, just lovely scenery all around us, and while driving in Rutland noted mountains in the distance in all directions, and it being such a wondrous thing. And I had yet to get into the Dead that was on my USB, went through mix cds I made that snuck in Yonder Mountain doing Reuben and Cherise for NYE one year and it was included on a Jerry Jams cd for Rex Foundation about 10 years back and Cumberland from Workingman's, as well as Levon Helm's take on Tennessee Jed, otherwise Dead free. Then the wife began to drift in and out of napping, so I put on 46 at a low volume, so now I couldn't hear Phil, but could hear Jerry, some Bob, and a lot of Billy. This gave me a new perspective on the playing, and Jerry was really hot. Bird Song is incredible (a previous listen suggested the same at much better volume, and at which one could hear how locked in Phil and Billy were for this rendition, just amazing, given the nature of the song and their playing styles), with Jerry just ripping it. The Kreutzmann drum roll across his kit in Bird Song is panned beautifully thanks to Owsley's mic placement, and a really well executed version that takes it time even as the band comes back in early. I wasn't as impressed by the Playing. Veneta outshines it, sure, but so do other ones from this monthly period. China Rider was excellent, Phil and Jerry really on it, Bob and Billy, too. Not commenting much on Keith, because another release where you hear him sometimes, but nothing that really stands out. Likely the mix. Wonder why Bear never challenged himself to finally solve the problem of mic'ing Keith, or just buying a damned electric piano? But I digress, love the bluegrassy Friend of the Devil, even if they were shaky on it. The He's Gone is a nice pre-cursor to where it would be in two months, and beyond where it was as a first set song just two weeks before in Berkeley on DaP 24 8/25/72. Truckin' is a blast, Jerry and Bob are tearing it up when they begin an Other One jam, but first Drums, then the beast is unleashed. I've got 4 full listens now of the released version (3 back when first announced on Archive version that seemed most complete), and the one with the wife at low volume featured us driving past a dead turkey in the road, and she remarked "what was that dead animal?" I told her it was a turkey, she said, "No, it was the sound coming out of your Grateful Dead". "Oh." But then we got a nice bit with Brokedown Palace from the Bonus as we drove past a river in the friscalating dusk light.

Hopefully, you like that Other One, Proudfoot, I think it's one of my favorite versions ever. I'd also be so bold as to say Dave screwed up in 2001 when he chose 9/17/72 Baltimore for DiP 23 over this show. I actually pulled that out to listen to it when this was announced and I checked it out on Archive, and I wasn't so impressed by it. But this one, this one is in my top 10 Dave's Picks, probably top 5. Wish the Bonus had the Other One from Jersey City for another jam, but loved the Half Step, never heard Jerry sing one with that much enthusiasm. The vocal mix on the bonus material is way too loud, especially the harmonies. Hence another wish that Other One had made it. But overall very pleased.

....but whether it's Dallas or Seattle, Vegas has the upper hand.
I've been wrong before, but I'm just armchair forwarding here.
No ticks in the SW. Hot here.
Miss Half Step is a tough song to categorize.
So I'm not even going to try.
'It was coming out of your Grateful Dead'. Been there!
Except it's 'that's the Grateful Dead talkin' for ya'.
I have a step granddaughter that says that to me, then rolls her eyes, then gives me a hug and smiles.
It could be worse.

user picture

Member for

10 years 2 months
Permalink

To Vegas and Vguy. Only saw the first period but the skating was fast and furious. Unlike some other games I've watched in the playoffs those two teams spent a lot of time between the blue lines stealing it away from each other. These guys are fast and not afraid to let the defensemen do the defending. They take risks which is more fun to watch.
Cheers

user picture

Member for

10 years 5 months
Permalink

Unique and spot-on commentary Alvarhanso as usual. Friscalating indeed! (and another gold star for stumping spellcheck!) Onward.

user picture

Member for

10 years

In reply to by Angry Jack Straw

Permalink

VGuy - A gutsy effort by your GK to shutdown the Dynamic Duo. Nicely done! I may play some (Name Redacted) in honour of the Glittering Knights today.

Jack - Embarrassed doesn’t cover it. As the Elephant Man Leaf Fan said, “Look away, I’m hideous”. Liking the Canes in the east, and VGK in the west, but mega respect for the Kraken for playing out of their minds.

user picture

Member for

10 years 10 months

In reply to by JeffSmith

Permalink

I thought it was "friscillating" all these years, and was hoping somebody would pick up the reference. An interwebs search discovered not only had I spelt it wrpng in my head all these years, somebody made a song based on the reference, which is the only reason I've even heard of such an archaic word was Owen Wilson's character's absurd concluding paragraph in the reading of his second novel Old Custer ("Now, everybody knows Custer died at Little Big Horn; what this book presupposes is... maybe he didn't?") in The Royal Tenenbaums: The crickets and the rust-beetles scuttled among the nettles of the sagethicket. "Vamanos, amigos", he whispered as he slung the busted leather flintscraw across the loose weave of the saddlecock. And they rode on in the friscalating dusklight.

Last 5:
Dave's 46
Dave's 2023 Bonus Disc
Bela Fleck, VM Bhatt, and Jie-Bing Chen - Tabula Rasa
Jerry Garcia and David Grisman - Shady Grove
Jerry Garcia and David Grisman - I've Been All Around This World

user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

12 years 11 months
Permalink

DALLAS

user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months

In reply to by wissinomingdeadhead

Permalink

....Hurricanes also in 6.
Let's do this.

user picture

Member for

12 years 1 month

In reply to by wissinomingdeadhead

Permalink

It was kind of boring. A couple of very odd goals for Dallas.

Vguy - as a Sabres fan, I can’t in good conscience ever back Dallas. So, I’m on your side again. Not a good omen for you.

Gotta go with the Panthers simply because they took out Boston. Very unexpected final four. It feels weird.

I’d normally be rootin for the ultimate underdogs (FLA) but I can’t behind them for several reasons.
Canes meh, and, no offense, like Angry Jack it’s against the law back in Bu faf to ever root for any Dallas team lol.
All that plus I think the Knights are the team to beat currently.
So yeah, sorry Vince, with AJS and myself backing the Knights, hopefully we won’t spread the curse!

Man these fall 72 jams are sweet. Recently got reacquainted with Dicks 23 and 36, yoosah…

user picture

Member for

8 years 6 months

In reply to by Oroborous

Permalink

Now available at Real Gone records website! Only 1,000 copies available for short period of time! Grave your copy before it’s too late!
Have a grateful day everyone! Peace be with you!

user picture

Member for

14 years 9 months
Permalink

The Dallas Stars' owner long-ago screwed over the State of Hockey, aka, Minnesnow-ta, and took our beloved North Stars way down south, so there's no way I can root for them. And if your ponds don't freeze in the winter, then it's difficult for me to root for your hockey team . . . :)

user picture

Member for

10 years 2 months
Permalink

By the time I got the email from RGM it said sold out and the notify me when available tab was under that. Oddly, I had looked on their site less than an hour ago when I saw LMG's post and went through a huge number of GD items, mostly DiPs and Road Trips CDs and never saw the DiP 1 vinyl offering, but I did see the DaP 1 vinyl there. Must have missed it. Dang, that is a great release and this new version even has Phil's missing bass solo. Five minutes late with a dollar in my hand. Dennis, you lucky dog!
Cheers
Edit: 3000 in an hour or two? Read what you will into that sales figure, era, vinyl vs. CD? Your guess is as good as mine.

user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months

In reply to by 1stshow70878

Permalink

....Gila Monster.
The new record is heavy metal, as confirmed by the band. These guys are pretty good that that genre too!!
Re most of you rooting for Vegas, I consider that a positive, not a negative.
"If ponds don't freeze over".
Checks the remaining teams. Deadheadbrewer is out of luck lol.
It is actually kinda strange, as AJS stated.
Re vinyl drops, yeah. You gotta be on your toes and constantly paying attention. The vinyl phoenix has apparently risen from the ashes.

user picture

Member for

14 years
Permalink

funny story-I gifted a DaP46 to a good friend who helped us stay in Ventura for the Skull & Roses Festival this April. He was surprised, did not know of this release. He's not tracking dead.net like we do. He's looking forward to listening to it. In his words, "This show turned me into a deadhead". Sweet.

As with 1stshow, got the email too late for any good to come of it. Not following the 1000 online. I was able to get DiPs 26, 36, 19, and 26 all relatively easily. 19 and 26 had larger runs, and didn't sell out that quickly, more like days, and I think those were limited in first batch online and also like 20 bucks less, too. Bummer, was hoping for this one on vinyl, hope they get me with the email...

product sku
081227834593
Product Magento URL
https://store.dead.net/en/grateful-dead/special-collections/daves-picks/daves-picks-vol.-46-hollywood-palladium-los-angeles-ca-9972/081227834593.html