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    Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


    By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • daverock
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    JGB and The Dead

    Doing...I got the impression that somewhere along the line, for Jerry, The Dead became a job and the JGB a hobby. That is purely on the basis of listening to recordings, and probably has no basis in fact. Towards the end of my working life, I enjoyed my hobby more than my job- but I was better at my job.
    I had never heard of Bruce until I saw him with The Dead, so it felt mighty strange at Wembley 10/30/90, when he started playing that solo piece. Who he?

    Gary - yes, it seems to me that it can be a mistake to over identify with our bodies.

  • Vguy72
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    Turned that game off....

    ....I love discovering new bands. Somali Yacht Club was recommended by a friend.
    Pretty cool, pretty cool.

  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Seemed to be as bored as the rest of us during the 49ers - Giants game this evening. So he started talking about some of the older stadiums where the 49ers played.

    That prompted me to listen to 3/23/75 at Kezar Stadium. The SNACK benefit show.

    A short set, but Good Lord. I can’t imagine what the Doobie Brothers were thinking to themselves when they had to follow that performance.

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    Purely for personal feels… Two shows I’d love to have as Dave’s Picks.

    Merriweather Post 06/30/85
    Richfield Coliseum 09/08/90

    I suspect these are well embedded in many tape collections. They were two early entries during my burgeoning tape trading forays. Both are available in exceptional quality at the usual repository. These facts lead me to believe that even if folks were like minded in their appreciation of the two performances, no official release will happen any time soon. Too available and too good a quality of sound to warrant special treatment. Mores the shame.

    Merriweather’s Shakedown could be on repeat all night long and I’d be happy. The Richfield, in my mind, is just about THE perfect home stretch Dead show. I have enjoyed Bruce’s tenure, but I find myself less enthusiastic as time passes for some reason. Like many a Dead phenomenon, when he hit, he really nailed it. But when he was hovering I find his playing just adds a distracting layer in the “jangly” part of the mix. He’s just a little too percussive and concussive too often, and it almost feels like there needs to be a “Hornsby Dolby Reduction” setting that needs to be switched on. He, dare I say, grates! To the point of distraction. In fact I’d be comfortable enough to say that it’s my opinion that there isn’t a Dead show that would miss him. Yes, there are some great moments, but they don’t warrant the detracting and distracting “crunching tin foil” mush that he brings to the table nearly 100% of the time. And, how many times do we need a bloody squeezebox solo tearing a new one through yet another generic standard. The novelty wears thin quickly. Again, just one chaps opinion and no malice intended. Hey, I’d give body parts for an 11/01/90 release because that was my one and only show (and an absolute maelstrom of primal electronic bedlam)! Seriously, any bad (and there’s enough of it believe you me) is more than balanced by the sort of Dead show you really didn’t get “to that extent” once the basic first set - second set start - drumz - and night y’all format became the template. That show is not that show without Bruce.

    However! Richfield is not Richfield with Bruce… And Richfield is sublime! Fluid, beautifully improvised, absolutely THE show to demonstrate that 90’s Dead was yet one more brilliant facet of this bands prowess and heart. No Bruce. Just Vince, riding shotgun, occasionally spelling when the journey demanded it but otherwise content to listen and compliment and learn. The mix is stunning. I don’t think you could get closer to a “Whithout a Net” like sound field if you tried. The jams are long and liquid. The whole second set is seamless. The Space is scary and haunting and the old warhorse of Stones/Fade is so solid it demands to be listened to, hard. Likewise the Deal set one closer… Perfect! The MIDI work is sublime and complimentary with Eyes and Estimated clocking in almost a half hour of faultless and considered playing before we ease into yet another perfectly realised little ditty. Terrapin… OK I’ll just get it off my chest and say it… yes, I would shag this show if it were possible (and consensual… obviously. Come on, I’m not an animal!) So, as you can probably tell, I really, really like this show. A LOT!

    Second topic. I have been super impressed with the way the Jerry site has been handling its retail experience. Pricing has been incredibly reasonable. Shipping seems to involve a competent courier and they manage things like duty and tax at point of sale which is hugely appreciated by Johnny Foreigners like myself. It’s nice to be able to pick up releases that for the most part aren’t time or volume limited. Being able to pick up the occasional piece of associated art, a t shirt here or there… And to double take at the price not in fear but with incredulity at how reasonable it is… Top marks and I thought I’d just add to the comments bigging up the Jerry releases. You won’t be disappointed.

    I’ll leave you with a remark my wife made yesterday… “I really like listening to the Jerry releases. It just sounds like he’s having a lot more fun than he does with the main band.”

    Now she listens to the Dead because that’s what I play… a lot. And I’m a bastard music tyrant. She’s OK with the Dead, but she likes the Garcia band releases on their own merit, and I think she’s nailed it to be honest. There’s something about Jerry unencumbered by the all consuming Grateful Dead beast that he definitely displays when playing in his side hustle. Feel free to disagree and educate me otherwise.

    PS. I haven’t spell checked or proofed this. It’s too long to do on an iPad and it’s late, and I’m one month away from two years sober and feeling a little chatty. Apologies. If one person enjoys 1% of this splurge… hey. Job done.

    Take care all.

    Peace

    Stephen.

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    Hey Danehead!

    Love Denmark! Wife's uncle lived about 15 min from Tondor .... loved Ribe, Skagen, and other ones I can't recall .... and can't get enough of Copenhagen ... been there at least 4x and have a couple of trips planned in the next 2 years .... tcc

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    Welcome Danehead

    Hi Danehead and welcome! My Denmark anecdote - in the mid 90s my wife was trekking through Europe with her then hubby, and travelling by train in a lovely area just north of Copenhagen, when she runs into her brother-in-law on the train, who was touring over there as a wanna be musician. She had no idea he was there, because he was living in South Carolina (still does), and she was living in Toronto. Small world.

    Gary - Your mention of Oteil makes me think of an album I played the other day that features him - Vida Blue (who was a great pitcher in the day, but I digress). An interesting little band with Page McConnell from Phish, a pretty jazzy sound. Worth a listen if you find it.

    Played Bombino “Live in Amsterdam” this morning- one heck of a guitarist, thanks again DHBrewer for the heads up on this guy.

    As for unruly people at concerts, you see it constantly at movie theatres, but I find venue makes a difference - if it is one of the 100+ year old opera style houses that every town has, with ornate Victorian design, I find the bands they book tend to draw a better group of fans, less disruptive. The arena shows are a free for all. Noise, talking, phones. I don’t go to many shows anymore, more because the ticket business would be more honest if it was run by the Mob, just crazy now, but truth is, most of the performers I like have either hung it up, or shook this mortal coil. I actually feel bad that young people didn’t have the joy of lining up for tickets, meeting other like minded fans in the line (not scalpers), and the joy of walking away with actual tangible tickets you could flash like a badge to your buddies.

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    When we were young, "Why am I here?" was the big existential question.
    Now it's what I ask myself when I walk into the other room and can't remember what I went in there for. Wife laughed when I told her this a few minutes ago and said you gotta tell the Deadheads that. So I did. Pretty good, I remembered why I started this post. Score!
    Cheers

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    Welcome! As others have said "You Can Jump Right In."

    Speaking of Roger Glover, I post on here about a great show I saw at the Saenger Theater in New Orleans, in May (?) 2003. It was a Govt Mule show in tribute to Allen Woody, bass player for the Allman Brothers Band and then Govt Mule. Allen Woody had passed away three years earlier and it was a devastating loss. So Warren Haynes had this tribute called "The Deepest End." He invited bass players from many genres to join the tribute for Allen Woody. I always recommend people get the dvd/2cd set as it is an incredible journey in music. Here is a list of the bass players that played that night:

    Jack Bruce
    Oteil Burbridge
    Bootsy Collins
    John Entwistle
    Flea
    Roger Glover
    Mike Gordon
    Larry Graham
    Stefan Lessard
    Dave Schools
    Mike Watt
    Willie Weeks
    Chris Wood
    Jack Casady
    Les Claypool
    Billy Cox
    Alphonso Johnson
    Phil Lesh
    Tony Levin
    Me'shell Ndegeocello
    Jason Newsted
    George Porter, Jr.
    Rocco Prestia
    Dave Schools
    Chris Squire

    Maybe that will entice some bass players (Alvarhonso?, maybe OB Wan)) to give it a listen. It was a great show but it was Jazz Fest, so it was long, clocking in at over 8 hours. No way I could do that today.

    Edit: Walked away and then confused Roger Clover for Glenn Hughes. Hate that the ole control panel circuits are fraying.

    Dave Rock: I agree 100%. Even though the body breaks down, I too am happier today than any other time in my life. Well, except in shorts bursts of Grateful Dead shows and all its accoutrements.

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    I had a good time in Copenhagen during my brief visit many decades ago. 1981, in fact. Jesu, the days we have seen.

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Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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There is a Rush Road in southwestern Washington state.

Now you know.

Hey, man, leave Bob W alone...

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....does it lead to a Subdivision(s)?
I love that song. In fact, Signals is my favorite.
Followed closely by Fly By Night.
Hemispheres takes the show place.

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Hemispheres
2112 (side one)

That's all I ever "got" of theirs. Everything else seemed....I don't know. It just never took.

But I knew a lot of Rush fans over the years.

Good call on Subdivision(s), vguy

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Not moving pictures, please. I have heard that a lot over the years (wife and sons listened pretty often.)

NOT TOM SAWYER AGAIN! (said in a Hagrid voice)

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....it's a good song.
Heading out to see the millennial Led Zep "cover band". Let's see what's up.

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Well this brought me out of my comment section retirement. Been on a Rush kick lately, spurred perhaps by the documentary "Beyond the Lighted Stage." A perfect documentary about these kind, decent, nerdy best friends. Got me to start exploring their post-Signals stuff (not to mention Neal Peart's excellent books especially Ghost Rider.

Hold Your Fire (1987) is a lush understated synth masterpiece that will make few recommendation lists but should. A good intro to some of the great 90s stuff is the live album Different Stages (oh, also has the only complete live version of 2112 which sounds better than the studio version, says the deadhead). Counterparts (1993) is heavy.

Agree about Fly By Night (also love it's followup Caress of Steel but many hate that one).

Permanent Waves remains my favorite. I get that Moving Pictures is overplayed, but the 1980 live show on the deluxe version is essential.

Still tying to appreciate Clockwork Angels (2012), but some of their albums take multiple listens. It'll come...

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....KC Claney. Wow. Good to hear from you.
You made me laugh.

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because I know the title track.

I like the album well enough on first full listen. It'll be my music for my morning walk tomorrow.

Which album has Bastille Day? I ask because way back in 9th grade (1979) we were studying the French Revolution. A classmate of mine asked the teacher if he could bring in a recording of Bastille Day. My memory says he allowed it.

I of course had heard Spirit of Radio a few hundred times by then so I knew who Rush was.

"I'm not a smart man, Jenny, but I know what Rush is"

....I'm not going to say they sucked. But I'm not going to say they kicked ass either.
Very talented, but the guitar player seemed to try too hard if that makes sense. Guitar solos for days and his technique is.....odd.
They did have a smaller stage at the opposite end of the floor by us where they played a three song acoustic set, which was cool. The drummer played a mandolin. Nice.
Light show was weird too. They didn't have lights that searched out into the crowd. They stopped maybe fifteen rows out. Most of the lights were down on the stage. I guess Phish spoiled me. They did have flames shooting up though.
The singer tended to disappear for ten minutes at a time. More guitar solos.
They did play almost 2 1/2 hours without a set break, so got our money's worth.
Lots of pretty ladies though. Even got hit on again, so there's that. Woman sitting next to me kept putting her hand on my knee. Beverly from St. George Utah who drove down solo for the show. She had glitter on her face and was really sweet. Temptation is a helluva drug guys. Feels good to know I still got it though lol.
6.7/10. Probably won't see them again.

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We still get a print copy of the Seattle Times on Sundays.

In the Pacific magazine section, there is a story about a guy who lives in Shoreline (borders Seattle to the north). He took photos of music giants over the years.

The article has a great photo he took in color of GD on 5/25/74, plus a shot of Jerry 5/25/95 in Seattle.

A pleasant surprise on a Sunday.

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VGuy - Stop being so damn adorable!

Last 5:
Santana & McLauglin - Love Devotion Surrender
(Larry Young is the “secret sauce” in this disc)
Buddy & Julie Miller - Breakdown On 20th Ave S
Dillard & Clark - Through The Morning, Through The Night (Gene Clark was an overlooked genius)
Maret, Collin & Frisell - Americana
Jerry Douglas - Lookout For Hope (the dobra master invites Trey Anastasio to jam)

47, 47, Wherefore art thou? (Sigh)

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DaP 47 filler sounds better than DaP 31 filler.
Are they not from the same source?
On DaP 47 filler you can hear the crowd. Did Norman make a matrix?
Anyway, quite encouraging for the release of other cassette masters if they can be cleaned up this good.

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The band or the lovely and talented Beverly lol
You sly old dog ; )

Think 47 sounds better all around than 31…Norman and company now getting good with these cassettes too, which is nice…

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Today, Sunday, I'm going to be interviewed on the Sirius Golden Road show sometime between 1 and 2 pm pacific time about my Dead Head TV re-issue on dreamswedreamed dot com. Tune in if interested.

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Good day Deadnetizens. I recently, finally bought external hard drive to start downloading music, of course starting with my Garcia and Grateful Dead collections. This has been an arduous task as I don't have a complete set of releases, some of the Big Fish (one of those movies makes you think about Dad) I missed for various reasons, but nice bit o tunes to enjoy.

Although doing my Garcia collections somehow pretty much have every release except 1-2 of the first sorta bootleg releases. There was talk on one of these about PureJerry 1978 release. I have bay area 1978 includes almost 30 min Don't Let Go and seconnd set which inspires cover of LEt Me Roll It (McCartney) and the ending Gomorrah, I'll Be with Thee, Lonesome and a long way from Home. And the 3/18/78 show which encores such a tender Palm Sunday. Have the Zabriske Pointe SDTRK which has some nice stuff too for alt Garcia/Dead stuff.

Some off the wall releases are the Twilight Zone sdtrk for the 1985 tv series. So cool with Merle Saunders and the Dead version of the Twilight Zone theme and others. Another used gold find from way back is cool cool set called, Can you pass the acid test one more time? Disc 3-4...anyone have 1-2? Love a rip of it..

Anyhow just digging going back through the awesome amount of music we have been blessed with,,,still waiting for an 1986 only year I don't have .....more Shakedown's more Althea's...wa going to be more in depth post but friend of the devil stopped by with some purple haze and now I'm numb...dig on...carry on

PS: This 4979 release is nice companion to couple other 12/79 releases...and rip RR Broken Arrow one of my all time favorite songs.

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....you want to know a movie that makes me cry at the ending? That's one of them.
Wife thinks it's sweet that my eyes well up during certain movies.
And yes. I am subscribed to dreamswedream. Back on the bus I go!!

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Big time son, big time!
Keep those episodes coming!
Can’t wait for the Candace interview!
I haven’t checked em all yet, but there perfect for those nights, especially this time of year, when there’s nothing to watch and ya don’t have time or gumption to dig a movie…like a fun time capsule, I only wish they were longer lol

Edit: now I have to find that camera melting psychedelic Kaiser show y’all were discussing!

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So, did my first listen on my computer, with a decent Sony setup, that always is a fairly good reference system (I use it for mixing more often than my studio monitors), and the bass seemed quite present, especially Shakedown. When I got it into the car, albeit in mp3 on a USB drive, I only get mid-range bass, which is ridiculously prominent with Phil hitting that riff repeatedly, but thinking maybe I missed it, restarted the song, and again, no basso profundo in the opening. On the computer, and on a bluetooth speaker, seems to be there. I have never encountered this disparity in mixes. I'm gonna burn a cd from the rip (that went to flac, not mp3), just to make sure it's not an encoding issue. I know people here and on Steve Hoffman often bring up the HDCD encoding and, HCS was a big issue for this for some people, apparently, so wondering if that could be an issue somehow?

I know Phil in post-1977 mixes, especially cassette masters, is not nearly as prominent (dominant), and this gets worse into the 80s as he goes to the 6 strings and we start getting PA mixes that have less guitar in them, and especially less bass guitar, but this isn't totally absent bass. It's there one two sets of wildly different speakers, then, my preferred listening spot lacks that oomph. Anyone else experiencing wildly different mixes of this same release, or am I going slightly more insane? (Though I did read below that the filler materials sounds different between the 31 and 47? Haven't gotten to that part yet, actually, but will make a cd with all the filler together.)

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Both highly inappropriate and highly entertaining.

I love those shows.

The He-man Woman Haters Club.

Don't drink the milk. It's spoiled.

Happy Birthday Mr. Hood.

"Isthmus by my lucky day."

Mr. Brown from the bank is calling on the phone for Grandma. Spanky answers. Mr. Brown asks, "Who is this?" Spanky says, "I don't know, I can't see you."

I won't posted the more inappropriate ones.

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I gotta rewatch those to see what's up with that.

Spanky...lol

Hey GD85 fans...2/19/85

Glad yourz arrived, ThatMike. You'll love it.

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We adopted our own version of the he man woman haters club after several of us went through bad breakups and divorces in the early nineties lol. That lil Darla was trouble ; )

No Bass? I’d guess the combination of the unique sound of the Irwin bass, and perhaps the voicing of the speakers, and reduced frequency response of highly compressed music.
That bass was very unique sounding, partly why I think he stopped using it. (And going “dry direct” to the board can accentuate it)
And, very often general use speakers, especially car speakers are “voiced”, meaning their not very linear, their tweaked for lack of better word to sound a certain way that is more familiar/pleasing to the causal listener, and to integrate into less than stellar acoustic environments, like cars, radios, TVs etc…i.e., the designer might cut or boost certain frequencies of the speaker, often to compensate for idiosyncrasies inherent in cheaper general use speakers.
Good speakers are usually more neutral or linear sounding. The goal being for the speaker to not have a “sound” but to reproduce the music as naturally as possible. To get out of the way of the music. It’s impossible to fully achieve this, but better speakers come much closer.

So between missing info of compressed music, a unique bass sound that has not been fully processed, or voiced, and voiced speakers that might have a frequency dip at a similar frequency dip or cut of the instrument, could add up to a big hole in the bass frequencies.
The opposite, would be a mode or resonate frequency of the bass, accentuated by a boosted speaker voicing, and possibly by the physics/space of the car or room. Even with my dedicated room and above average system I suffer from room modes around 100htz! . This would give a big unnatural, uneven loudness of certain frequency’s and/or it’s harmonics that would be much louder than all other frequencies. Unfortunately, this kind of uneven overly loud bass has become popular due to certain modern music formats…
I’d suggest phase issues, but that shouldn’t be a problem in a car, and you stated you’ve never experienced this phenomena before. So guessing perfect storm of above issues. That Irwin bass sounded different, but good live through speakers, direct to board often not so much…this again is often due to the mix being for the house, not a recording like a Betty…
That’s my guess Alvar, curious to see what you figure out!

Now if you’ll please excuse us, Spanky, Buckwheat and I need to go bail Darla out for solicitation again…

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Oro - Clarence Darrow AND Brian Wilson got nuthin’ on you!

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42 years ago, I hitchhiked up to Oregon for a wild weekend with the Good old Grateful Dead. What a great show! Great party down by the Willamette River, all day. Hitchhiked down to Eugene after the show, caught a ride with some great guys from Washington.. Portland was crazy, Eugene was about to get crazier. Fun times!

Winterland 10/22/67 - the bonus disc with the last version of "Anthem". I tend to forget about this one, but it's a scorcher. Good reminder as to why more primal Dead would be so welcome.

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BTK 's call for 68 hopefully has fallen on receptive ears

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Makes sense. I didn't think about the Irwin, though I noted it in the Jay Blakesberg pic. The shift to 6 stringers definitely changed their sound, because before the switch, the lowest note Phil could fret was the G on the E string, so third fret, hence any of those crazy synthy harmonics from '73-'74 especially are from some notes that are too for the system. Which is scary. Don't know how those Guilds and earlier amps/PAs could withstand his power chords. But that switch to the 6ers, and Irwin before that, led also to the switch to Phil being left out of the PA mix for the most part. That that switch roughly coincides with cassette masters makes it especially jarring when era jumping. The relative absence of Phil makes the two tracks of the 80s and 90s harder for me to get into. The multitracks are usually a different story. Will say that a recent re-listen to Giants Stadium '89 and '91 shows revealed a fairly quiet overall mix. Even when turning up a few notches past my normal listening level didn't get things super loud. Wonder if that was a limitation imposed by 24 and 48 tracks, respectively. I know the more tracks, the more things are apt to cause an imbalanced mix and hard to keep things from getting too loud, so I suppose it was erring on the side of caution. (As opposed to where it was impossible to affect much of the loudness of Phil in Dark Star and Playing in those big, distorted passages on 6/10/73, without shifting everything lower.)

I did burn a cd version that is definitely louder, and fuller, but still not quite enough punch. Did quite a bit of A/Bing, and I think my initial remembrance on there being a full, punchy bass on Shakedown is the culprit. Set high expectations the car didn't meet. I try to have the car and computer somewhat balanced, given the mixing on the computer speakers, then checking it via car at the same volume level. But now noticing what a hit I was taking with the mp3s, I wish my car would decode flacs, no way am I investing in spindles and spindles of cdr blanks again.

ETA: thanks for the suggestion on Anthem bonus disc, Daverock, haven't listened in a while. Always enjoy a nice New Potato Caboose. Hate to say it, but I think the Allmans ripped that off for Dreams. Duane and Gregg would've likely seen them play it, as they opened for the Dead a few times, and Duane did note Jerry teasing First There Is a Mountain in Alligator, and did something with that idea...

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Check your PM.

I just sent you a list of all edgy Little Rascals episodes.

Not really, but check anyway.

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Helloooooo uncle Leo!

AJ, back at ya…

Alvar, sounds like yer figuring it out, glad to hear!
I actually liked the Modulus sound better than those 70s Alembics, seemed much more linear, especially when recorded SB direct. Bass SB direct has always been a challenge to get right. If you were standing right in front of Phil, even with that Irwin etc, it would sound so big and full you’d shit yer self, and as you know, hearing it through the PA it sounds awesome too, but often the dry direct feed directly from preamp to SB is not anywhere accurate of what it really sounds like. But that’s part of the caveat emptor deal, and hey, their better than nothing and still can sound pretty dern good! Obviously multitrack is the shit as every channel can be tweaked and the Bass especially can be isolated and made nice.
I have an Alembic and used to record our bands live 2 track and it took some adjustments to not have it be overpowering similar to 70s Dead.

PS, I really dig Phil’s current Alembic he’s had since FTW I believe. Of course that High tech Meyers rig he uses on bigger gigs is to die for!

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If you have Sirius Radio, the Tales from the Golden Road interview with Dead Head TV co-creator/producer Kathy Watkins and myself will repeat tonight (tuesday). Show starts at 7pm Pacific and our interview starts at around 7:30.

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I love Modulus sounds, I don't think it sounds quite right for Phil. Which, who am I to say that, right? I'm a nut for the sound of the Guild Starfires up to the Alembics of late 70s (at least one of which was a modified Guild Starfire). That wooden, full, rich tone he had is just heaven. The Irwin and the Ken Smiths and the Moduluses have a far different sound to my ears. And, I didn't get to experience Phil live until 2001, by which time his rig was that which could power a club PA. His lack of pedals and rack effects means precisely what you're saying about his dry sound. Of course, his dry sound, isn't as dry as that Guild when it was off the rack, with so many filters and eqs available. But he doesn't seem to use reverb, never delay, never envelope filter, never phaser (sometimes the frequencies from Bob's prominent use of phaser gives the effect that Phil's bass is also modulated on the HCS box), and if he had used a High Pass Filter back in 1973, maybe we wouldn't have those weird mice sounds coming from his low notes! But one thing you can about Phil's tone, that use of dry makes him sound virtually the same, and replicates well on audience recordings whether 1969 or 2019. And I cqn't critique Phil at all, I had gotten my old Ibanez SRA505 sounding like that sweet wooden tone, getting the flats was the final bit, and then I fell for an Ibanez SR505, which is almost the same number, but not quite, and I just fell for its tone(s) and endlessly resonant body. I've had that bass for the last 9 years now, and never regretted moving on from the quest for that Phil tone. Partly because I use a ton of effects (my "clean tone" has EQ, Compressor, and, typically, a touch of Room Reverb), and I liked the clean tone it had, and it seems to drive the effects better. And I'm also in the camp that's curious at Mike Gordon's (Phish) recent bass switch to Serek from Modulus, after rocking the Modulus for 26 years. I find it strange that Gordon's tone live differs greatly from the live recordings. His dry signal live is often quite different sounding than what you hear on the Live Phish. I was particularly struck by that in 2014, as Mike sounded like Phil circa '74 in the venue, but on the recording more like Mike.

Gonna check and see if my car will play flacs, have the 24 bit 6/22/73 on a USB drive for the test. If that works, would be a game changer.

But, when you take him out of the reference mix, as they did in the late 70s and onward, I think the overall mix suffers. Though, the sound is also greatly enhanced by the sudden ability to record keyboards consistently. Sure, sometimes the sounds are dated, but a Hammond Organ is always welcome, and it's nice to hear, consistently, the keyboard parts for the songs. I love when I can hear Keith, but it's so inconsistent. The HCS box was lots, and lots of gorgeous Keith. Too bad he seemed to feel the Fender Rhodes was foisted upon him by the band, but it adds such beautiful touches, and too bad they didn't foist an organ on him... or think about adding Merl Saunders or Melvin Seals at some point...

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I remember Ziggy's very well. Has a helluva lot of fun there. Saw Dave Matthews there in 1993 (?) I think. As you know, just a uniquely designed place. First Phish was there at Lawrence Joel that as 1995. Well, and that DMB was first for him as well.

I lived off Bathabara Park. Short drive to smell Texas Pete. Right on the corner (University Dr), a small strip mall on it, had a great deli. Maybe Elizabeth's Pizza or Italian in strip mall closer to campus.

As far as sports I went to all home games of football and basketball, some of the baseball games; so easy to make a nice afternoon. So yeah, saw all those Tim Duncan games. Watched them slide from #1 to, if memory, to out of top 20. Rumor has it 2 Stags for 1 hind.

Think baseball program was ripped off at college world series. Espn kind of bowed to the SEC, and my main sports followings are for SEC school and schools.

Lots of great posts, thanks.

Edit: Forgot, at one of the basketball games at LJ, I sat two seats down from Darth Vader.

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Anyone else yet to receive theirs? I guess cause I got a flawless HCS box, I was due for a hiccup.

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Alvar

If your car plays mp3 from a USB then I'm guessing it will play ALAC (Apple lossless) also. It is relatively easy to convert flac to alac. I rip all my Dead CD's in flac format but have to convert to alac to add them to my iPhone, since iPhone won't natively play flac files. I don't convert them all, only when I want to change things up a bit on my phone. Foobar2000 (freeware) can do the conversion. Just throwing this out there in case you are interested.

I know it is kind of a pain that auto manufacturers are somewhat behind in providing these types of functionality. I have a 2022 that will play flac but the codec it uses is pretty old, so it puts a 1 sec gap between songs. I know it is the car because every other device that plays the same files is gapless. Sucks when a great jam transitions to another song but I live with it for now. The car does not have a CD player or an aux input so this is the only way to play Dead CDs that are not mainstream releases. The mainstream ones can be streamed on whatever service you choose.

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from my late friend Craig I found a couple of unmarked discs. Turned out to be discs from GD movie collection.

A pleasant surprise to find myself in October 74 Winterland again. Great shows.

Also in the stash are a number of other bands on discs with a lot of technical jargon (FLAC, etc.)

I plan to make a list and offer them up here if anyone wants them. I would mail them to you for simply the cost of postage.

Stay tuned, music and tech fans.

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...just saw an article informing that a documentary is in the works to showcase the notorious Watkins Glen Summer Jam of '73. Knowing some of you fine folks were there (looking at you, Oro??), this will undoubtedly be a very cool output once it's pulled together. I'd provide a lin-k, but, you know....

Be Well People!

Sixtus

Howdy Sixtus!
Not me, still just a punk playing with my balls etc.
Your prolly thinking of the elusive but always interesting Hendrixfreak?
In fact, we haven’t heard from the rascally rascal since he mentioned getting sideways and exploring more rivers/wilderness. Not sure if we’ve heard from freak since? Hmmmmm?
Let’s try to roust him: HENDRIXFREAK, HENDRIXFREAK, HENDRIXFREAK!
Works kinda like Beatlejuice ; )

But I heard about that DOC, possible by D&G on Golden Road checking ole Nitecat out on the radio?
Something about a crowd source to get er funded?
Anywho, hope it sees the light of day!
Wish they’d release 6/22/91 and 7/2/89 videos too! Hell the did some of the work already, why not cash in again?

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....is coming to town. Worth going? Has anyone seen them live?

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