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    Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


    By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    Mighty Mickey

    Whenever I take an excursion into some “World music”, as I did this week, I inevitably circle back to Mickey Hart’s discography, and I always gain a renewed appreciation for Mickey’s incredible talent and gifts to drumming. Not just his playing - first rate - but his contributions such as his field recordings, and his own wonderful releases featuring rhythms not often heard in traditional Western music. I played both RAMU and In The Groove, and just incredible the drummers he assembles on these recordings, and evokes this marvellous sound from. Usually any “drum solo” in a concert is washroom break for me, but Mickey really brings something otherworldly into drumming. Posters will argue forever if the Dead were “better” with just Bill, or just different, at a time when the stripped down sound of Beauty/Workingman’s called for less. To me, what always drove the Allmans sound was the duo of Jaimoe & Butch, and I think it more true in the Dead with both Bill and Mickey. He has an incredible catalogue, some really interesting stuff that sometimes is exactly what you need to hear. I could never imagine him just being a drummer in some band, playing a twenty song gig, rinse, repeat.
    Recommended - “Drums of Passion” by Babatunde Olatunji, recorded in 1960, a favourite of Santana and Coltrane evidently. Excellent World sounds.

    Closer to home, my “Next due”: Buddy & Julie Miller’s new release. An understated guitarist I saw once with Plant & Krauss, a fan ever since.

    “Timothy Leary’s dead. No, no. He is outside looking in.”
    And he was a poser, and did nothing for the psychedelic movement.

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    Dave's #47

    I've been spending a fair amount of time with this one the last couple of weeks and to my ears this thing cooks!! I love the fact that DL and crew plan on hitting this era again when the time is right. 1979 GD has plenty to offer!

    Also, I guess the fact that I didn't start getting tapes from my older brother and friends till 1988 has been a blessing and enabled me to "love it all"

    I seen the band 17 times from 91-95 and loved every minute of it! I loved calling the hot line for set list of prior shows on a tour so i could try and call the openers or encores!

    I know 94-95 was a real hard time for Garcia. I remember on night at Philly Spectrum, 3/19/95 (UNbroken Chain breakout) during Crazy Fingers, that I thought Jerry was going to literally fall right through the mic stand and off the stage!

    As a proud member of Alcoholics Anonymous, I understand the abyss of addiction. It saddens me that Jerry was stuck in hotels and Persian was his refief.

    He was trying to get clean but, it was not to be.

    So, I hope I didn't get to heavy on that topic. Just sitting here drinking coffee and spinning Dave's #47

    Hope all is well with everyone.

    Rock on, gang!

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    I'm listening to 47 again,…

    I'm listening to 47 again, it's better than I originally thought. The Black Peter> I Need A Miracle is quite something.

    I see the Jerry people are selling Three Hundred Dollar photographs ? I usually credit them with not charging stupid amounts of money for stuff, like a hatchet for instance...

    Leary is shit.

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    Beware of believers

    It seems to me that people who are 100% in favour of anything are a bit deluded. Most things have pros and cons. It pays to be wary of people who think they have the answer and try to influence other people to see things the way they do. There was an awful lot of that in the 60's - including people who were either in favour or against acid. As Charlie Watts once said - it's unfortunately very easy to con the young.

    Mention of the 13th Floor Elevators - hugely entertaining if you like that kind of thing, but whether Roky Erikson would have been happier if he hadn't taken psychedelics in the way he did is a mute point.
    In fact, thinking about it, Roky Erikson, and what happened to him serves as a chilling reminder of the negative effects of simple minded evangelism. He appears to have been used as a mouthpiece for non musician Tommy Hall, about 10 years his senior, to spread the gospel according to Tommy Hall. Which seemed to revolve around taking psychedelics 24/7. This had such a profound effect on Erikson, that by the end of the 60's he apparently took to the stage with a band aid wrapped round his head to close his 3rd eye, and dim the hallucinations. Enter what we used to laughingly refer to as "straight society" who incarcerated him and fed him a diet of their medication. Shocking mistreatment and manipulation all round.

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    and a wink to Bear, Skully, Sands and the Brotherhood of Eternal Love. Honorable mention to the Jimi Hendrix, the 13th Floor Elevators, the Grateful Dead, the Jefferson Airplane, Monterey Pop, Woodstock,.. (this list could get long). It would have happened without Leary, once the CIA opened the spigot to the general public, it was game on.

    I blame my brother and my friends.. but Mama Tried to raise me better....

    True, Leary did not help psychedelic research one bit.. nor did Nixon, Manson or Altamont. For good or for ill, the War on Drugs was the nail in the coffin that closed the door for scientific research for more than four decades.

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    ....spot on review. Good job.

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    PT - great review, cheers. The last time I saw them was the last time they played in England with Edgar Froese - must be about 10 years ago. Good to read that they are still out there.

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    speaking of psychedelic research

    caught Tangerine Dream Monday night at the Orange Peel in Asheville, Nc. A small to medium sized venue holds 1000 people SRO. There were seats set up on most of the floor and mostly people sat for the show. There were of course several standing as seats were an extra 15 and the standing area was actually a really good view. I ventured back there from my seat a couple of times and the sound was intense but not too loud to annoy, but you could feel the low notes and was said that the room sounded great in E so the ending jam was in E to E flat, some bone shaking vibrations that were tremendous. I hadn't felt anything like it except maybe when Mickey would hit those low notes on the Beam, right through you and could feel it in your chest, so good. There were 2 screens, one on each side of the stage, that had some really cool graphics going on, melting and fractals swirling along with the music.
    The set list was taken from their website as I only recognized three of the tunes that they played. Love on a Train from Risky Business, Raum and Phaedra.
    Improvised intro>Los Santos City Map>Continuum>Love on a Train>Raum. A pause for lots of applause. Then right back at it, No Endings>Betrayal(Sorcerer Theme)>Rare Bird(1st time played on tour)>Portico >Choronzon. More applause as the three members took a slight pause and accepted everyone's love. The band is really jelling now. Logos Velvet (first time played on tour) Tangram Set (another first)>Cloudburst Flight>You're always on Time>White Eagle>Phaedra. Off the three went for a much deserved break as the 400 or so patrons and I voiced our approval of their performance. Right away, not but a minute or two out they came and showered love on us as being an excellent audience who actually listened. Then as is customary with Tangerine Dream, the encore was an improvised session that lasted about 25 minutes, sometimes turning on a dime and leaving the two screens blank or frozen in place. 2 hrs plus a 25 min improv nice show, highly recommended. Check out their facebook page for more info if interested. Quite a trippy show.

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    I never took any notice of Timothy Leary or Ken Kesey when carrying out my own extensive research into the effects of LSD on my grey matter. 🧠

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    My understanding - which might be wrong of course - was that Cary Grant took LSD as part of what was called "psychedelic therapy" under the guidance of a psychiatrist. He was clearly an advocate, but not a recreational user in the way people were in the 60's and 70's.

    It's curious, reading about the history of LSD, how it became almost appropriated by Timothy Leary, and to a lesser extent Ken Kesey, who went on to define it's culture, and to some extent how it should be taken. There was nothing in the 1950's to suggest it would become a recreational drug of choice associated with rock music and young people. There is a school of thought that says Leary and Kesey were partly responsible for knocking psychedelic research back decades.

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Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 08/28/2023 - 06:52

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Looks like the bases have been covered.

I never think about selling (yet). I guess it depends on if she wants maximum return on dollar or wants to brighten a heads day. Selling here would offer followers a good first shot. You hate to think you're doing a good deed passing something along to someone who really wanted it, only to see it on ehay for twice that the next day.

I saw a week or so back someone had their entire collection up (decent collection),,, they wanted 17K.

I leave the selling to my son. If he has kids someday, he can pass down,,,, if he wants to sell off,,,, well that's 100% profit to him regardless of price obtained.

In the end,,, I'm dead and it don't matter. Could be a song there.....

It don't matter to me if you sell my collection
and it don't matter to me, because I'm dead and gone
don't need money no more. Dead and gone, can't spend no more.
Time ain't on my side.

something like that anyway :-)

Thanks for the heads up - I’ll check it out later tonight at home.
This site is getting pretty psychic lately - last week Gary and I are “hearing” the same song earworm, and now I’m driving playing Phish (“New Years Eve 1995”) when DMCVT’s note comes through.
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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 08/28/2023 - 07:12

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I missed 100's of band in the 70's, but the ones I saw or got albums by keep cropping up on here. Like Uriah Heep. They were a great live band and whenever they came to Manchester between 1973 and 1975 I traipsed off to see them. "Gypsy" was their magnum opus - very powerful live and the original version on "Very 'Eavy, Very 'Umble" is still jaw dropping. That's a great album by my 1970's standards - and "Look At Yourself" is also worth checking out, with the title track and "July Morning" featured. Life was so much simpler then. And so much louder.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 08/28/2023 - 08:58

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Wow, there’s a blast from the past.
One of my first concerts in 78 was Jethro Tull with UH opening.
At one point, probably near the end of their set, UH were playing so loud they blew the power on the stage lol.
Still have a little piece of the big balloons JT sent out into the crowd…

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 08/28/2023 - 09:01

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Double post, haven’t had that in awhile.
Double the pleasure, double the fresh…

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For fans of the great Wayne Shorter, Amazon Prime is showcasing a 3 part documentary on his extraordinary life & career, entitled “ Wayne Shorter: Zero Gravity”. To me, Shorter was one of the top figures to emerge from jazz.

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Submitted by topchinacat on Mon, 08/28/2023 - 11:08

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Oro ! I saw Tull twice in 77 (almost back to back, once in LA followed immediately by a show in the midwest)... featuring those huge white balls being thrown around! I have exactly 4 photos of those shows that have survived all these years ... was intrigued by the music, the Thick as a Brick newspaper album, and Aqualung of course. They, and a few other Tull albums stand the test of time IMO........tcc

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Mon, 08/28/2023 - 11:52

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36 years ago we were at the Greek Theatre to hear Garcia play a gig. Bonnie Raitt was the opening act and she sat in with Garcia for a couple of songs. We were at the Electric on the Eel the day before, so we were beat, but it was a nice way to spend a Sunday afternoon.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 08/28/2023 - 17:57

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So sad
So young
So talented

I never got to see him live but did see him perform streaming on multiple occasions. From the first notice, I liked this guy. He was fucking awesome. To see him perform and sing Dear Prudence with Phil was a delight. An excellent saxophone player also. I'm pretty sure I posted something about the next day on one of these forums. ....and I just recently got turned on to him.

Wow.. so sad, I'm a little bit depressed now. A tip of the glass to Mr. Casey. A great loss.

BTK, I was at those 87 Greeks also. The only time I made to the Greek. I came with memories and one of my favorite T-Shirts, a dancing bear being lifted up over the crow at the Greek with a big ass smile on his face and the caption "I Peaked at the Greek"

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Mon, 08/28/2023 - 18:42

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41 years ago today we were up at the Oregon Country Fairgrounds for a rocking day with the Good old Grateful Dead. It was a cool scene, the Dead played really good . They were going to play there in 1992 for 3 shows but Garcia got sick . I still have my tickets for the cancelled shows. Robert Cray and Peter Rowan both played before the Dead.

James Casey Phil Lesh and Dear Prudence, I think it will bring you to a capitol theatre show on Phil's (belated) party there this last March. None of us knew it but he was dying of cancer as he performed it. Rick Mitarotonda from Goose slips in some tasty lead guitar, the guy from Goose is just getting started and finding his stride. Wonder high he will soar?

Anyway.. Casey plays a mean sax also, was so fun to watch. Big smiles and overflowing with raw talent and raw emotion. At 40? Guess it's better than 27.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Tue, 08/29/2023 - 06:44

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It's terribly sad to constantly be reading about the deaths of SO Many musicians that we all love. But we still have the music!! So, I choose to play the music and celebrate the life!!
DAVEROCK-so funny to me about Uriah Heep. Friends of mine that love the same bands rarely agree on favorite song or album. The 1973 Live album (Black Cover) is my shining Star of U.H. albums. Demons and Wizards is a close second.
In America, Very 'Eavy Very '`Umble was titled "Uriah Heep" with an abysmal cover. I never bought it. "Look At Yourself" is indeed a fine record also. "Horses for Courses".

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Submitted by PT Barnum on Tue, 08/29/2023 - 07:06

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saw them in Oct. of 73, opening for Joe Walsh and Barnstorm. The only thing I can really remember about them is that they were annoying. They had this hit out called "Were all crazee now" and was real big in UK but never made it here in the US. They played the crazy song and expected everyone to get up and flip out, didn't happen as we were all there to see Joe. As they were playing the song, they kept flipping off everyone, all of them were giving the audience the bird. This is Tampa Florida in 1973, needless to say, the locals did not appreciate the bird and began booing and screaming cat calls and other forms of displeasure at their performance. After their set, and many boos, they came out for what was going to be an encore, but they got booed right off the stage.
Later after Joe had done this killer set and the entire place was vibrating he comes back out for the encore and says "You guys are crazy" which did not go over well as we had just been flipped off by this band who's big hit was about being crazy, Joe apologized and tore into a killer version of Funk 49 to close out the show. That Barnstorm line up was just so good, with another Joe, Vitalie on percussion, drum kit and flute and vocals. After the show the topic never returned to slade, the overall consensus was that they sucked. Early punk did not go over very well in Florida.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 08/29/2023 - 07:19

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I have listened to a bunch of their stuff over the past few days. Some good stuff, some so-so.

Get Down and Get With It
Cum On Feel The Noize
Run Run Away (I realized that had filtered down to me in the early 80's, but didn't know who it was by)

a good time band. loved by many apparently, not loved by a few apparently.

You toob allows for historical musical research. I love it.

Mr Ones - I will have been at the Manchester show on the tour that Uriah Heep Live 1973 was recorded.Yes, that's another really good one. I haven't heard it since the 70's - it was really expensive last time I looked online for a copy. I remember they had a moog synthesizer . In the ear,y 70's, all sorts of unlikely, hard rocking bands, did. Black Sabbaths
mid 70' s albums had them - The Groundhogs...it was as though no one quite new what to do with these new fangled things, and what sort of music they could fit into. After "Low" by David Bowie they seemed to be taken over by new wave pop bands. And we don't want to go there. And disco - which I never listened to at all - although "I Feel Love" by Donna Summer now sounds like one of the best records of the decade.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Tue, 08/29/2023 - 11:22

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I love it!! David Byron calls it a "Moog Simplifier" and also complains about getting chewing gum stuck on his boot. 2 of my fave examples of "stage banter"!!

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Tue, 08/29/2023 - 15:37

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2 nice phish shows this weekend. (donated to WW)

Then, of course, Veneta. Man that is soooo goood.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Tue, 08/29/2023 - 16:51

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Posted on utube, check out
SPAC Foundation Acoustic Pre Show with Trey Anastasio and Page McConnell

....I bought a cap and donated $25.
The Waterwheel Foundation is a good one.
And unlike some certain former presidents with mug shots, it's a legit place to donate. But that's just me.
Gonna check out those acoustic sets soon. Thanks for the tip.
Derek. Trucks. Still blown away.
Edit. Very nice acoustic set so far. I was blessed to see the entire band play an acoustic set on the last day of Festival 8 back in 2009.
Hating on Farmhouse is an inside joke amongst fans.
Trey has apparently had a vocal coach for a few years now. And it shows 🍻
And to the fans that saw that last show, I'm super jealous. Good job.
One of the best stories ever is when Page saw them play in 1985, and told Jon Fishman, "I'm going to play in your band". They were only two years old at that time. He looks like an accountant, but rages. Love this band. 40 years and still killing it. Much props.
I have noticed that they are starting to use teleprompters. Whatever works. They are pushing 60 and have a huge catalog to remember. Shit. I'm 55 and lost my car the other day. Long story. I'll just say this. Be careful with edibles. They either kick your ass or laugh at you.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Wed, 08/30/2023 - 06:44

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On this week's GD Hour. Some interesting mash-ups.
6-24-23 Boston - DS/ Big River Jam>TOO Jam
6-27-23 Noblesville - Big River>DS (in big river groove time)
Some Bob and John M. interviews about these.
7-1-23 Boulder - Sugar Mag>Scarlet Begonias>Sunshine Daydream
Nice fresh little taste for those of us who didn't go or stream.
Cheers

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Submitted by That Mike on Thu, 08/31/2023 - 07:48

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The last 5, including some “deep dive” Phish
- Page McConnell - S/T
- Trey Anastasio - Paper Wheels
- Oysterhead - The Grand Pecking Order
- Wayne Shorter - Native Dancer
- Grateful Dead - DaP 47

Two cents - I really like a concert, or an album, that comes out of the gate charging, like race horses at the starting line. Fast, grabs you right from the get go. While DaP 47 certainly is a decent release, and I was excited for the Alabama Getaway opener, the song really sounded anemic, almost mailed in, and a lot of that had to do with Brent’s rinky dinky keyboards on the tune. IMHO, I really thought his keyboard choices took great performances down a notch.

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Submitted by estimated-eyes on Thu, 08/31/2023 - 12:48

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My initial impression was that this was a decent release, but I am now amending my view to state that this is a sub-par release. Outside of the Shakedown Street, this one doesn't offer any superlative versions of anything. I am sure it was a fine concert to attend, but this one just doesn't do it for me. I like the Uptown Theater release and the late December shows (one DiP and one RT) better for late 79. It is ok, but probably won't get a lot of listens over time.

Subscriber since year 3 and this is the first year that has me wondering if I am going to subscribe again next year. I am feeling a bit over-saturated and this year's shows are just not grabbing my attention like others. 2022 was a stellar year with that 'perfect' Baltimore show, Winterland 2/74, amazing newfound gems with the Carousel and SMU 1969 shows, and the Oregon 1990 show is a good late Brent show. I am hardly listening to this year's releases. I may save my funds for the boxes in the future as I end up passing on a lot of those due to familial obligations. That said, I like getting 4 shows in my mailbox throughout the year with minimal effort on my part. We'll see what 48 has in store for us and how 49 looks, but am leaning against a sub again next year.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Fri, 09/01/2023 - 05:51

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I think Dave's #48 will be from 1968 or 1970. If its from 1970, hopefully its 9/20/70, what a fantastic acoustic set!

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Submitted by kemo on Fri, 09/01/2023 - 05:57

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I listen to this last night looking at the Blue Moon. Amazing Jerry. This release continues to blow my doors away! Incredible show. Looking forward to that other one Dave teased about!

Good idea Vguy, gonna pop on the SACD version I got a couple years ago, love how those SACDs can play in car, stereo, or DVD/BluRay and still impart some of that awesomeness in the car stereo. If I make the drive long enough, might just take the SACD of Wish You Were Here as well... Shine On and Blues would make for a helluva mashup...

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Fri, 09/01/2023 - 12:36

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Fantastic album! I think they only played the song Blues for Allah 3x, I saw them play one of the versions at Winter land on 6/17/75. Very Cool!

Intriguing that Scarlet Rivera has a sticker with this image on the violin she played during the Rolling Thunder Revue in 1975. She is asked about it in the Martin Scorsese film, but disappointingly doesn't mention The Dead.
It is a great picture. And album, come to that.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Sat, 09/02/2023 - 06:49

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Aw man, not Jimmy too?
Weirdly, I just woke from a dream where someone served me a cheeseburger.
But I was not in Paradise.
Cheers to him.

....the beer selection sucked, so I got a margarita.
Found out Buffet passed after the show.
Things that make you go "hmmmm".
Weezer was fun. Spoon, one of the openers, was really fun. I'll be keeping an eye on them. Missed White Reaper, the first band due to major rains here again. Stupid Uber driver went the long way. It was a Tesla. Neat car

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 09/02/2023 - 12:53

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Caribbean winds blow him safely to the Big Cheese Burger in paradise!
Yeah, I had some weird thoughts about him yesterday. Hadn’t thought about him in a long time and my thought was a bit more than the normal quick kinda thing that often pops in there. Like, I was thinking “wonder if he’s still playing, how he’s doing etc, how old is he?” I shit thee not! Outta no where, I started thinking unordinary thoughts about a guy I never think of…

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Submitted by JoeyMC on Sun, 09/03/2023 - 07:24

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I thought I read somewhere that SACDs only play in SACD players. So I've always avoided them, even though it didn't really make sense to me.

I'm listening to Dave's 27 (9/2/83) It actually sounds like a cassette compared to the HCS box...

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Submitted by MDJim on Sun, 09/03/2023 - 07:37

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I think Rhino is still using the HDCD format.

It doesn't surprise me that it sounds like a cassette, it was sourced from the Cassette Master. It's a shame they did not continue using Reel to Reels.. hindsight. They had little to no idea this stuff would be so sought after 40 + years later.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 09/03/2023 - 07:57

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Hey Joey,

You are correct. SACDs will only play in SACD players. Same principal with DVD audio. I have a Sony system that plays both formats.
There are some SACD Hybrids that will play in all players. When they are in a non SACD player they will play in the standard two channel and when they are in a SACD player they will play in Multi Channel.
I was a big fan of multi channel releases and own quite a few. The only problem for me, outside of a few studio releases, there are of course no dead releases in these formats.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 09/03/2023 - 09:11

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Yeeesh, where does the time go?
Skipped my first day of college (that was sign right there lol) to see the boys in ole Crotchfester, front row in front of Phil. He came out early to tweak his rig but people were carrying on so much he got pissed and left lol Heineken glued to his arm every minute the bass wasn’t. Killer show, and my first Dew!

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Submitted by JoeyMC on Sun, 09/03/2023 - 09:54

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Thank you for the information. I did see a Garcia/Grisman SACD somewhere, which is what got me looking into it in the first place....

I'm going to break out Dave's 38 (9/8/73) soon, which is one that I listened to more than any other when I first got it. I listened to 42 almost as much...

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