Dave's Picks Vol. 47: Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 12/9/79

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Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.

By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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September 13, 2023 - 9:28am

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JimInMD

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I'm with Oro on the snow, no bueno.. it's a terrible drug that ruined many a life of the people I grew up with. It seemed my high school friends that didn't go to college all got 'high paying' jobs (for our age) in contruction, landscaping, cable companies, UPS, whatever.. and all started doing blow... and all experienced serious problems. Going to school, we couldn't afford it that much. A friend in 87 or so turned me on to the idea that the stuff was no good.. stay away.. Danger Will Robinson. And pretty quickly I heeded his advice.

As to Chucks comments.. well said. I saw a few shows where I walked away wondering what could have been or what happened. One was that last show at RFK in 86. Well.. they got much better after that, then they got worse but still had their moments.

In the end we got what we got.. if I have one regret it's that I wish I would have gone to a few more shows. In hindsight, I probably went to as many as I could afford. A very positive experience on my life, I am grateful for that.. and grateful that I got to meet many of you here, and for those I have not met yet.. I at least get to read about your excellent stories, views on life and takes on music and all good things.

Oh, I really liked that interview with Whiz on recording Europe 72 and the most excellent 5/26/72, which they played on SiriusXM last night at 9. Serendipitous it comes up on these threads today. I will listen to it in its entirety very soon...

Be well people.. rock on. or as Mr. Burns said after his first dead show:
Excellent!
September 13, 2023 - 8:00am

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Gary Farseer

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Wiz

My memory fails as to his direct relationship. He was a technical type within the Organization. Now where placed I am not sure. Under Bear directly, maybe under Betty. In the documentary, he talks about the very last show of E72 and maybe some other things. He was the last tech in the recording truck, that is, recording switching tapes etc. This last show was pulling him in, blowing his mind. When Morning Dew came, he left and locked up the recording truck and went to go watch. He gives a deeply passionate discussion of that Morning Dew, that it was so incredibly emotive. That Jerry was crying, he began crying and was absolutely blown away with that version. He never went back to the truck and felt fortunate the remaining tape was able to record the whole show. That is my understanding, and from memory 4-5 years old, and my memory is not that great. May have to go back and watch Long Strange Trip, think it is still on Amazon. Might need to re-listen to that show as I became overwhelmed by the last years offerings and didn't make it through the whole E72 box this year. But can renew the listen as I am still digesting HCS and #47, and a lot of other stuff also. I also went thru the From the Vault 1-2.

Here is a direct write up over at rick turner. Anyone want reference website, DM me or look up Grateful Dead's Wiz.

May 12, 2020
Dennis “Wiz” Leonard’s Notes on Europe ’72

Here are my old friend, Dennis “Wiz” Leonard’s tech notes on the recording of the Grateful Dead’s great live album, “Europe ’72”. Most of my blog is my own writing, but I asked Wiz if I could share this, and he graciously said, “yes”. This is the clearest explanation of how Alembic did live recordings that I’ve ever seen. Wiz now works at Skywalker Sound…he went way big league!

Dennis Wiz Leonard Europe ’72 Technical Liner Notes By Dennis Leonard
“Less is more!” This was the motto of Alembic and many of the sound artists in the S.F. Bay Area’s growing community of folks trying to advance the state of the art in both “live” and “recorded” sound for rock ’n’ roll. One can hardly mention this philosophy to recording without touching on the Alembic PA system and its unique qualities.
The new paradigm for live sound: the Alembic PA. In 1964 The Beatles played at Shea Stadium using a circular array of Vox Grenadier Column speakers, a box quite similar to the Shure Vocal Master Column. This approach to sound for a stadium was doomed even if all the girls did not scream. Fast-forward to ’67-70 and things were not much better.
The Alembic PA was the first really hi-fi approach to a live system. It had direct radiator low-frequency elements rather than horn-loaded boxes, which were the standard. It was an electronically crossed-over three-way system using McIntosh MC-75, MC-275, and MC-3500 vacuum-tube amplifiers and Ampex MX-10 vacuum-tube mixers as the front-of- house console. It eventually evolved into the famous Wall of Sound. This was a philosophic approach, brainchild of The Bear, put together by some of the most talented engineers in the Bay Area, and the same philosophy was applied to the task of recording bands.
Alembic Recording did not have a truck to pull up to a venue. We had gear, and we often built a studio at the venue in a room somewhere backstage. Sometimes we would haul the gear to the gig in a rental truck, then unpack and build the studio for the gig in the truck, take it apart when we were done, and take it back home.
Recording Europe ’72 was a monumental task, and we came up with a great solution to building a truck which we could fly airfreight to and from Europe. A video-production company was letting go of a pair of cargo containers built for them to ship a portable video-production remote unit by airfreight. This was perfect—when set back-to-back, these two rode in the top of a 747 airfreighter. Each container was built around a reinforced floor, the sides and top latched on and off.
We moved all of the components of our Ampex MM1000 16-track into a video chassis that put all 16 sets of AG-440 electronics down below the transport which was then on a 45 degree angle. This was not only more robust, but it was also going to allow us to run 14-inch reels. This took place in an all-night marathon. When we started, Ron Wickersham was not sure all of the original cabling would work. We were lucky it did! At around 5 am, the new machine was rolling; no cables needed to be cut or spliced from the original wiring loom!

Another obstacle was that the capstan speed in an MM1000 was derived from line frequency. Ours was a 60-Hz machine and we were going to 50-Hz land. Ron came up with a solution which would also solve another problem down the road: He built a precision 60-Hz crystal oscillator; we drove a McIntosh 275 vacuum-tube amplifier and picked off a tap on the output transformer, which would give us 120 volts with enough current to run the capstan motor at our precise 60 Hz/15ips, also now immune to line-frequency fluctuation. The other problem arose when we tried to get Ampex to give us their 207 tape on 14-inch reels. Ampex 207 had a thinner backing; instead of the traditional 30 minutes one got out of a 10.5-inch roll, 207 would give us 45 minutes, so a 14-inch reel was going to run 90 minutes—very desirable when recording a band with long sets, like the Dead. Ampex would not build the reels; we had to do those ourselves. Remember, we were running the recorder’s capstan on an oscillator, so for building the reels we hooked up a variable-frequency oscillator. We would ramp the machine up to 60ips to pack the tape. Each of the 14-inch reels had a splice in it. Ron and Sue Wickersham and I spent a few nights at Alembic having a 14-inch- reel-building party.
The recording rig was quite simple: “less is more.” We recorded the Dead quite often, so a lot of what we did for Europe ’72 had been tested and proven.
We built the rig at Alembic. One of the newly procured containers had the 16-track and an outboard equipment rack, the other . . . a custom built cabinet which was our tape library, and this cabinet also had our monitor console, Revox two-track, cassette machine, and Orban reverb units mounted on top of it. A carpenter met us at Heathrow airfreight in London. When the gear arrived, we took the sides and tops off of the two containers (which were left there in storage for the tour) and had them forklifted into our rental truck for the tour. The container floors were about ten inches high, so after the two were in the truck, the carpenter secured them and built us a filler floor so that the recording truck would not have a split- level floor.
We wired the truck up and hung drapes and the 4310 JBL monitors, as well as many other things at the first show venue, Wembley Arena.
The flow of the rig, starting inside the venue, consisted of the following:
Two nine-pair snakes plugged into a custom Alembic split. AC from the stage ran to the truck with the two nine-pairs. Once inside the truck, the AC power was conditioned in an automatic, motor-driven variac made by General Radio. This was to, hopefully, prevent severe voltage fluctuation. The split plugged into the rack, which held a patch bay and minimal gear. We had a couple of Ampex MX-10 tube mixers and some limiters. The limiters, by the way, were used only on vocals for our monitor mix; we did not want to do anything to the vocals on the 16-track record master.

One of the big “less is more” philosophic bits of Alembic magic was the use of transformers in the input section of the MM1000. Ampex offered modules which plugged into an octal socket on the back of each 440 record amplifier. We used these sockets for the transformers, which would allow us to take microphone level right into the tape recorder, totally passive—no electronic noise added and no record console electronics to fail.
The MM1000 fed a very small, 16-track Alembic monitoring console built by Ron. Janet Furman was our technical engineer and not only fixed things, but also set up the 16-track to the custom equalization we were using with the thinner-backed Ampex 207 tape. We could monitor, solo, and build a two-track mix on this. We recorded to a Revox B77 and a Sony cassette machine, and we also had some pretty simple spring reverbs for our two-track mixes.
Shows seemed to generally fit on two 14-inch reels and a ten-inch reel or two. Tape changes were quite interesting: We did not have a lot of room and had practiced this quite a bit, and it took three of us to do this at high speed. In an effort to not run out of tape during a performance, we had an indicator-light system of communication. Under Jerry’s monitor wedge there were three small lamps mounted on a piece of wood. The lights could be lit from the truck. A green, yellow, and red light: Green = we are rolling and in record; yellow = if you can wind it down and stop, we need to change tape; red (if, in fact, the band did stop for us) = changing tape, not in record.
This, of course, did not fit in with the way the Grateful Dead worked. There were not going to be any rules. Early in the tour, I tried a “yellow,” asking for a possible wind-down of the jam so that we could change tape. Even though this had been an idea we had discussed Stateside, Jerry was having no part of it! As I switched on the yellow light, I looked at Garcia on our 13-inch B&W TV monitor. He looked up at the camera, knowing I was watching, and simply smiled and nodded no in a very friendly way. Don’t fuck with the music!
We did some tape changes while the band was playing. We really did not want to interfere with the flow of the music.
I was in the truck for the tour, parked in front of the Ampex 16-track. Since we had no record console in the path to tape, the 16-track itself was actually the only place to make any level adjustments, so with our custom MM1000, all 16 of the AG440 record amplifiers were clustered together in two stacks of eight, easy to keep an eye on. Betty Cantor did our live two-track mix in the truck; she was around eight feet away. The band really had no set lists in those days, so as the show went down, I would write one on each of the tape boxes. Bob Matthews was at front of house. We would chat on our intercom after songs, and he, Betty, and I would decide how many stars to give a song: Three stars meant it was a really good performance! The star system was used when we got back home in order to focus on candidates for the Europe ’72 album.
Twenty-two shows in two months (57 days) is a vacation tour. The current tour-booking standard is to average 4.5 shows a week, and the Grateful Dead Europe ’72 tour was booked at around 2.5 shows per week. It does not get much better! Although it was an amazing time, with many days off, we took recording this tour very seriously and there was no relaxation on a show day at all.
It was a high time for everyone. The music was just amazing and for me not seeing any of it except on a small B&W TV was OK. I did, however, get inside on the last night. Due to circumstance, I was alone in the truck. We had, only minutes before, put a fresh 14-inch reel up and had 1.5 hours before the next tape change. A microphone onstage needed attention and I had to go inside. I did this with a bit of trepidation; I really did not want to simply leave the truck, but no one else was available and the mic needed to be fixed. The band was in a spacey jam and was very unlikely to produce levels which would be a problem on tape.
I locked the truck, went inside, and quickly fixed the bad mic, which was just a bit loose on its stand. As I went for the stairs to leave, the band dropped into “Morning Dew,” which has always been a favorite tune of mine. I decided to stay. Dynamically, the levels in the truck—which was now “running itself”—were going to be fine, and I had to stay! I parked myself behind Jerry’s rig for the song, a time I will absolutely never forget.
Fast-forward to Alembic Studios, 60 Brady Street, San Francisco. The band is choosing the final songs for the album. I am walking down the hall towards the control room. Jerry bursts out, very animated as he catches me, “Hey, Wiz. Guess what? ‘Morning Dew’ from the Lyceum is for sure going on the album.” (Big smile from Jerry.) He says, very emphatically, “And no one was in the truck!” (Bigger smile.) The Grateful Dead’s music was built on taking chances, embracing the unknown, letting serendipity have its hand. So the fact that, while no one was in the truck, a true pearl was recorded was not unusual at all! It was just an affirmation that we were letting the muse guide us in an invisible and mysterious way.
The tour was a truly magical time. It changed my life forever! If I were to be marooned on an island with only one piece of music I could ever listen to, “Morning Dew” from Europe ’72 would be it. Jerry’s solo says it all!

Oh… One more anecdote, I got back to SF after a quick trip to Vermont to get my dog Zach… Got back to Alembic in time to meet the gear, we were now at 60 Brady street… Big M (Bob Matthews) grabs me and says, “Hey remember we had to fast wind some tapes off, so I want you to play the tour, the whole tour, so all the reels are playback packed at “Tails out” the control room is yours” So I said, “hey I’ll just live here till it’s done, ok?” Big smile from Big M… What a drag, I had to play the whole tour, update thoughts (Star System) on quality and I put another pair of 4310’s in the back of the control room and played the room miss through them… (Surround sound) sat and did a live mix for I am not sure how long, I would play and sleep, sleep and play… But it was pretty constant… Stop every show to clean the heads….. Then I moved up to Fairfax and really slept..
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September 13, 2023 - 7:51am

#493

Gary Farseer

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Sixtus

I have been dabbling in Goose's pool this year. Definitely very enjoyable stuff!
September 13, 2023 - 7:44am

#494

Gary Farseer

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Wow

In the mid 80's we a had massive gak parties. Some lasting several days and going thru massive amounts of cocaine. My last dalliance was summer 1986, sort of lines up with other events of 1986. I was born with a heart condition, thought I should stop as the heart palpitations might lead to an arrhythmia. Just before that, Crack started to come out. Remember being in a friend's friends house that had turned into a Crack lab. Man were they a factory. Started to change my views about Coke. Trying to put puzzle together on 86. Only time I smoked crack was in Manhattan, August 86. My brother and I had just left the Blue Note watching Dizzy Gillespie. We were already high on white lightning (name for blotter - and yes there is that deeper connection to Bear and The Human Be-In). We were walking the streets around 2am and we come across a cat hanging out on the front of a brownstone. He was smoking and we started talking. We ended up buying bag of pot from him. He also pulled out another joint and fired it up and then passed to us. After smoking it he told us it was laced with crack. There was only one other time that I was that high and that is the show I wrote yesterday saying I would write about it next year on anniversary of show. We were so incredibly high, that at 3am on a packed subway, New Yorkers were freaking out watching us. It was a ball. I have posted about that night a couple of times here with a lot more detail. So somewhere summer/fall 86 was my last ride. Not sure of timing, remember the party but not the time. Know it was shorty after NYC August 86, but then when was the crack house event...timing of Jerry getting sick. It is all a big blur now. But dang, that feeling of doing two quarter gram lines up each nostril was absolutely amazing. That is, a buddy of mine took a gram divided into four lines and each took two.

Hmmm, I do remember an ear nose and throat doctor soaking my throat with cocaine before she sent a camera up my nose and down my throat. That was 2004, so I guess that counts too.

Everything has its purpose but all things in moderation. Guess that is why I never crossed the line and became an addict to anything.
September 13, 2023 - 7:43am

#495

Sixtus_

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Goose at the Boston Pavilion

...headed to Goose the next two nights at the seaside pavilion in Boston; looks iffy with thunder expected for most of this afternoon/evening, but tomorrow looks good. Will be the start of their Fall tour here before they head to Europe in November for the first time. I've been on this ride for the past 18 months or so, and I have to admit it's been amazing so far with no limits in sight. Each show is literally the best show you've seen, until the next one. Where have we heard that one before?? They are on a true roll. For any who may be skeptical, this is a full-hearted prompt to go and dip that toe into the waters to see what its all about. A lot of stuff on The Tube with a U, and Bandcamp has all of their shows and albums to listen for free (it's all also on Nugs).

Also saw that Phish announced their first festival in many years, holding a spot for next summer already.
In Delaware of all places!
Hey Garth, we're in Delaware....

Be Well People!
Sixtus
September 13, 2023 - 7:20am

#496

Gary Farseer

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Proudfoot

check DM.
September 13, 2023 - 7:05am

#497

Oroborous

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Toot toot totsie

No Bueno!

It was around, luckily we were too poor for that. (It was expensive then)
Occasionally, maybe for special occasions, or weddings or NYE etc, but fortunately only rarely.
If you’ve never, don’t bother.
September 13, 2023 - 6:58am

#498

Oroborous

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Sheik

My understanding is the Fillmore 71 tapes were chopped up to use for Skull Fuck and other things.
Supposedly that’s why they did Ladies and Gentlemen: to use the best of what was available…
September 13, 2023 - 2:25am

#499

daverock

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When your day is done..

Cocaine never appeared in my orbit when I was young, so I never took it either. I'm sure if it had appeared during my teens I would have had a dabble - I believed in living adventurously. I suppose I could have had a go later in life, but I never felt it was worth it, all things considered. I am not sure what the characteristics of a coke inspired jam would be.

I would watch a biopic of Jerry if it was on the telly. But I would have very, very low expectations.
September 13, 2023 - 2:02am

#500

sheik yerbones

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multitracks recordings

Recently listening to Three from the vault, St Louis 71, and Europe 72, I am just asking about the multitracks recordings if there is anything about Fillmore East 71 (a full show 27 or 29) or the final run at winterland in 74 (full show) - St louis is a good show but the sound is not as shining as the others. I return to the capitol 71 shows, they are so good, great shows as a quintet.

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Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.

By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

Proudfoot the Warfield

The Warfield in SF indeed does still exist. It is one of the jewel theaters originally built as a movie palace. You can google it. It holds 2,300. It used to be run by BGP, but sometime in the 90's (I think) it was taken over by southern Cal promoters Goldenvoice. This was really Jerry's home base for his JGB and JG Acoustic shows. A beautiful venue. At some point in the 80's Graham tore out the movie seats on the floor and built tiered levels and a dance floor, which made it really cool. You could be on a tier above the dance floor, see the band over the dancer's heads and place your drink on the tier wall. So many wonderful memories, not only the Dead and Jerry, but many other bands, Neal, Heart, and many more.

SF Blues Festival

I went to the SF Blues Festival at Chrissy Field twice, I think. I remember one year seeing BB King, not sure what year that was. Lovely outdoor venue, spacious and low key, everybody really chill hanging out and digging the tunes. I recorded at least one year. Someday I'll upload the recording to Archive.

3/29/85

Check out Meet me at the bottom video…surprised at Micks behavior, especially since it’s Billy that’s the instigator.
Whole rabbit hole of shite there…
On a happier note, man I love 85!

The Warfield

The Warfield Theater most certainly still exists! There's an event up on the marquee for tomorrow. That building is now just over 100 years old - for California, that is quite venerable.

Back in the day - 35 years ago - when I lived right off the Panhandle, we'd get to the Warfield by walking all the way down Golden Gate Avenue. A decently long walk, but a straight shot until the street terminated at Market Street, with the theater right there on the corner. We'd preparty as we went. Today, though, I don't think I'd make that walk... the 4-5 blocks closest to the Warfield could be renamed "Fentanyl Avenue"...

A Warfield story

I was too young to catch the Grateful Dead at the Warfield. But like many folks, I saw quite a few Jerry Garcia Band shows there. The Warfield became kind of my "home venue" in the years 1992-'95 since my dad had a rented flat just a few blocks west of the Tenderloin. I'd drive up from college for a weekend and catch a show, maybe two if I had the money.

But one of my best Warfield memories is from the Phish show on Friday 5/27/94. It was the final night of a three-night run. We had scored second- and first-row balcony seats for the Thursday and Friday shows. Good shows, one and all, but on Friday, things got interesting in set II. First a fiddler (Morgan Fichter) came out and joined the band for several numbers. Then they debuted "Simple" in the middle of Mike's Song. By that point it was clear that it was an unusual night, but we didn't know the half of it. Because next, an opera singer (!) came out on stage and began singing O Mio Babbino Caro. Apparently she was unmic'd - I don't recall that specifically, but what I do recall is that her voice absolutely FILLED the space. It was spellbinding.

Meanwhile, as this aria was being performed staffers appeared in the aisles and began passing out boxes of Flintstones-themed Kraft Macaroni 'n Cheese (that date was the premiere of the Flintstones movie.) We were told that these boxes were to be used as shakers, and so that's what went down for the Possum closer and the Fire encore. It was one heck of a way to close things out and give the audience something to remember and talk about.

And after the show, on the sidewalk outside stood a man handing out posters. This was back in the day before eBay, so he wasn't even mobbed... he was having to sort of proffer the posters at passers-by. I still have both my poster and my box...

JGB at the Warfield was an…

JGB at the Warfield was an honor and a priviledge. Had my friend all set to see his one and only chance to see JGB there he extended his trip to SF by a day so he could catch the first in that run and Bam They came out and canceled the show. Bummer for my bro but man I saw so many JGB shows there while living on Potrero hill I am forever thankful!

Dead/Beatles

Right after John Lennon's untimely death, there appeared in Rolling Stone a story by Ken Kesey about this very thing, "Now We Know How Many Holes It Takes to Fill the Albert Hall." It's currently in the Demon Box book. Do not miss it.

Made a Warfield Show Once

..not the GD though, but close and on New Years Eve on Y2K. A wonderful venue, had a great time.

Thank you for the Warfield info

Gotta dig out some of that 1980 run

Howard Cosell announced Lennons death...

....live on Monday Night Football.
Dolphins vs Patriots.
Burned in my memory. I had just discovered The Beatles. Hadn't discovered the Dolphins yet, but my dad had it on the TV.
I went and cried in my room that night and lit a candle by my mom's permission.
I was her when Elvis died three years earlier, so she understood. Albeit, under different circumstances.
Those first Simple's were rough at the edges Obeah, but they eventually got it just exactly perfect.
Vegas '96 is still my favorite Simple. Was fortunate enough to be there. And I've checked out a lot of Simple's.
It's on Spotify. FF to the 11 minute mark for the money shot. It's up there regarding the most listened song I've ever listened to. Pretty much memorized. Then Harry Hood. Then Weekapaugh Groove. In that order.
Good shit.

I'm also interested to hear…

I'm also interested to hear that you recorded one of the years you attended. I'm sure there are many people who would love to hear those recordings. I hope you do decide to upload them someday.

Dead/Beatles

Marye - thanks for that reference to "Demon Box". I got that when it came out - but I would never have remembered that this was the book with the article about some of the Dead family's visit to Apple in.

simple

sack scrapes and sax capers
ding dongs and well wishers
golf clubs and cymbal crashes

or something like that floats in my mind as you mention Simple.

I gotta dig out Hampton Comes Alive

That release has Weekapaug Groove of course...my son and I drove around town a couple years back with that loud on the car stereo...we had a good time with that.

Jammin'.

Maja

Methinks you are an AI mole.

If not, OK.

If so...bugger off.

One month till new Dave's…

One month till new Dave's Picks! :)

Demon Box

Good call Mary!
We’ll have to dig that out this WE.
Sometimes I think I’ve forgotten more information than I currently retain…

Yeah, what will 48 be? And has anyone received any shipping info for 50th WOtF as it’s release date is supposed to be Friday?

my prediction

48 is a multiple of 4, which is a multiple of 2.

2 + 4 = 6
2 x 4 = 8

it will be something from '68.

Yup. Mark my words.

Beatles-Dead

I was turned onto the Beatles as an infant as my mother would drive me around doing errands and the Beatles were on the Radio. So, Sgt. Peppers was my first introduction, I should have realized that was part of my life formation. Didn't hear the (earlier - had to edit) stuff till the early 1970's. So many of their songs were easy, not sophisticated, but when you add in George Martin they become deep and developed psychedelia.

The Dead we got inklings in the late 70's, but didnt fit my Yes/Rush place I was at the time. For me, lighting hit, four months later thunder. From then on, the race was on.

Was reading a very long Rolling Stone article about Bear, a few days back: Here is an interesting paragraph:

Concerning much of what has been attributed to him during this period, Owsley says, “The only thing I haven’t been associated with is walking on the moon, for Christ’s sake.” Owsley did not parachute in to the Human Be-In in January 1967, as was widely reported, but he did provide 300,000 hits of acid called “White Lightning” for the event. Five months later at Monterey Pop, Owsley passed out his “Monterey Purple” backstage to Jimi Hendrix, Pete Townshend and the Stones’ Brian Jones, not to mention much of the festival’s staff and crew. Owsley also sent a photographer back to England with a telephoto lens packed with tabs of purple acid on the condition that he share them with the Beatles. “The thing about Owsley,” Townshend said, “is that when he gave you something, he would take it too. Just to show you. He must have had the most extraordinary liver.”

Edit: PM me if you want me to send a path forward to the article to the article.

Maja Blues Fest

Thanks, Maja, I will dig it out someday.

McCartney and the GD

I remeber hearing (circa1993) that McCartney stated that the GD inspired him to get back out on the road. This came from my music teacher at the time. She was showing me an ariel shot of the GD at Deer Creek 93 that was in Billboard magazine and told me that little McCartney tid bit. I don't remeber where she read or heard that.

Rock on, gang

Deadheads Man, Alright

That's correct, The Grateful Dead did inspire Paul McCartney to back on the road and tour in the 90's. If you google Paul McCartney Grateful Dead there is a reddit post that has a short video clip, "Listen you know, if Jerry can do it that good, you know.. I mean.. there's hope for us all"

I recall seeing this at the time somewhere else too.

A great peace sign from Paul and a great endorsement, "Deadheads, man, alright!
Does anyone remember when could just drop a linq in here? Then again.. with AI coming on board and weird, random posts that seem to be computer generated, if someone really wanted to down a site like this they could probably write some endless loop of gibberish that would drown out our humble but sincere support for our favorite band. Let's hope that never happens.

Rock on Paul! Well Deserved and Hard Earned Rock and Roll Royalty.

My sons were lucky enough to see Paul McCartney a few years back

when he came to town. I was too cheap to buy a ticket, but I am sooooooo glad they got to attend.

Sir PM...a salute to you, good sir.

....and they didn't buy poor old dad tickets?

That's it Jr., you blew it. Out of the will.

Wishing Al Di Meola a speedy recovery. He collapsed on stage last night. Heart attack somewhere in Europe (Brussels??), sounds like he's stable and recovering. Didn't something like this happen to Colonel Bruce Hampton a few years back without the happy ending? The Rock and Roll Lifestyle.. Saw the Guitar Trio decades ago in the early 80's. They were great, but they could have benefited from a little wisdom via Robert Hunter.

Memories...in the corner of my mind

I too remember Sir Paul mentioning the GD and helped inspire him to go back as well as forward. If I have it right, I think it was after he "saw", in person, "heard" from friends media, but my memory is that after he saw the Grateful Dead playing stadiums, the light came on that there was a still a hippy, freak, neo hippy that still wanted to see great live music. I wonder if it was after he saw Sting opening for GD. That was summer 93 i believe.

As an aside, I used to work with a gentleman, and I told him I used to travel seeing GD. His response, deafening. But when I said "Guess who is opening for GD? Sting!" He said that could not be true, it had to be GD opening for Sting. I said back, "you truly do not understand how big their underground was." I mean GD back then, sold out a stadium with a "minimum" of 60,000 people at lets say $30/ticket. That is $1,800,000. If they offered Sting $200,000 just to show up to play, equipment only, I am sure he was like hell yeah. No P.A., no promoting, no risk of loss, just cash to play.

Wasn't it CSN and maybe Y, who only had 5,000 fans out front at a stadium date and refused to play. I think it was Big Steve who set them right. No play, no pay.

Al Di Meola (?)

Was a huge fan of Al. Still am, but decades now since I even listened to him.

Think Col. Bruce died at his birthday party, Maybe 70th. Again, going from fragmented memory. I think he went side stage and did some coke, and basically dropped dead. I should know more about that, but you know, a rabbit hole for this weekend.

Col Bruce

Yep he died at his 70th birthday party at the Fox Atl. Hope they recorded some of it. Guest performers are strong.

And wow, never realized he played on "We're only in it for the money" and "Lumpy Gravy" by Zappa. Weird because I sat at the bar a couple of times when he came to hometown. Have more stories about this stuff, all I know is Gustav Berglund was a wild performer to see live, and was fun to talk to.

If you have never heard of Bruce with the Codetalkers, and then just the Codetalkers (with Bobby Lee Rodgers) same band Bobby Lee from the beginning, you should poke around a little. I am going to check archive for some content. Haven't been to Archive in a long time.

Re/ Daily Dose 8-21-80

Listen’n to 8-2180. Killer set list opens with “ cold rain and snow” always a sign for a special evening is bout to be had! The first set is solid , jerry sounds beautiful on ‘Peggy-o, it’s all over now! One two punch pretty cool at the time! I love it! The second set is what “dreams are made of”! Uncles John band , trucking into The Other Ones, drums, the wheel back into UJB & finally sugar magnolia in all her glory; encore with “Alabama Getta Away!”One of my favorite tracks of ‘Go To Heaven ‘One of my favorite studio albums from the band, the Dead I mean! They had the best of the best , putting on tape is a whole different cup of tea than playing live. another magic in their Music always intoxicated me with musical mystic hymns of unbound joy & freedom! Love! . 8-21-80 would make a grateful Dave’s pick one day! Any other fans of this performance, especially their second set is primo Dead especially for the band in summer & fall of 1980 tour in the dead’s playing. I love this show!

The only Beatle I caught live....

....was Ringo & His All Starr Band around 4 or 5 years ago. Wife and I did not leave disappointed.

8/19/80

THAT is a tremendous show from that run

Hiiiiighly recommended

I just relistened to the Golden Gate Park '75 show....

....from Boxilla. Didn't realize it was the anniversary of the show until I put the discs away. True story. Whoa.
Cobo's anniversary is a week away. Vguy paying attention.
Magical Mystery Tour on tap. When I was young, the helicopter sounds were mind blowing.
In fact. They still are.
Hello, Goodbye.
Those lads from Liverpool were....life changing.

Stop Making Sense....

....is in theaters. Oh shit.

Re/ProudFoot 8/19/80

I concur , primo performance and great for a Dave’s pick!
Setlist
Mississippi Half-Step
Franklin's Tower
New Minglewood Blues
Dire Wolf
Cassidy
Row Jimmy
Me and My Uncle
Big River
Althea
Easy to Love You
Feel Like a Stranger

Little Red Rooster
China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
Estimated Prophet
Eyes of the World
drums
Playin' in the Band
Comes a Time
Playin' in the Band
Around and Around
Alabama Getaway

Johnny B. Goode

*** Miller sound board on you tube! It went up a month ago!
… love it, definitely best of the three night run, on my younger brothers birthday no doubt! I got him on on the bus in highscool & college. Brought him to 50% of the concerts in our area close to home being the meadowlands, giants stadium, MSG , capital theater, Philly, basically the whole eastern coast line ! I took him to his first and last show when he moved on in to his Jethro Tull affection! He loves the band & Ian Anderson. I took him to all the beacon runs across the years! Always had a great time. Ian is a Shoman in the highest order! I loved their first album. Enjoy the rest of their catalog but never really made me a hardcore collector like Dead! There’s nothing like a grateful dead concert!

Stop making sense

I saw that baaaaack in the day

I'd love to see it again

Talking Heads

Were on CBS Sunday Morning 5 days ago. It was an interesting interview with the band and things like why they broke up and why/how the movie is back in theaters. Was/Is definitely worth the watch. They were yet another interesting band that brought tremendous change to the musical landscape. Once I saw the video for "Once In A Lifetime," I knew things were getting weird and changing rapidly. For me, it started with the Police. They were just so interesting as to their approach to music. Wonder why GD never tried a Police-type song. Probably because they couldn't pull it off. Was fortunate to see the Police twice, basically February 1982 and January 1984. Somewhere in there. Never say Talking Heads, wish they would have come around here.

Stop Making Sense

Considered by many as THE concert movie of all time?
Not sure I’d go that far but it does kick Ass!
Tina Weymouth is awesome!
I have it on Blu-ray and it sounds fantastic via Auro 3D!
If I wasn’t so far behind on my Dead, I’d fire it up lol
Who knows, maybe we’ll break it out this WE…

EDIT: while we’re killing time…what concert movie would you consider the goat? (Besides the GD Movie etc)
Or, if you feel that or other dead concert video is tops, list it and what ever mere mortal outing you consider second…just for shits and giggles

out of nowhere comes this post

2112 side one

IS SO FREAKING AWESOME!

I have it on during planning time at work

I STILL get goosebumps when the "we have assumed control" part comes on.

MAN. what a masterpiece of rock.

Stop Making Sense

I thought that was great, too. I played it for various visitors back in the 80's but it didn't really rub off.

If you had been lucky enough to see The Police on their first British tour, you would have seen The Cramps. Lord have mercy. There was a life changing band.

Off the cuff, 5 music films I have watched a fair few times over the years have been, in no particular order
Rock N' Roll Party Honouring Les Paul...........Jeff Beck and guests
Elvis '56.........................................................a collection of T.V. appearances
Going Back Home.....................................Dr Feelgood
Rumble in Brixton Stray Cats - or Live in Japan- Brian Setzer Orchestra
Ladies and Gentlemen.............................The Rolling Stones live U.S. 1972

I watched Sunshine Daydream a few weeks ago. I had come to think this show was a bit overrated, but there is some fantastic music cherry picked for this release. China Cat/Rider and Dark Star - Sing Me Back Home are stunning. I'm not so sure about Bob's move into El Paso - that sticks out like a sore thumb. There just to show nobodies perfect, perhaps.

Simple! + DaP48

Thanks VGUY I will most certainly check out that recommendation today - I'm stuck at work, and Spotify is my chief source of diversion when I'm here, so I appreciate that heads up and the guidance for getting to the money shot :) All this talk about Simple has def fired me up to want to have a good listen. And any time I hear "Harry Hood" in the same sentence... well, you had me at "Weekapaug"

As to Dave's 48, hmmm! As I've noted, it's been a Keith-heavy year for official releases, with TWO shows from Vol 45; another from 46; and then five more with the HCS box set. (And there's WotF, too.) Now, the last two "season finale" Dave's releases - Vols. 40 and 44 - have both been Summer 1990 picks. We last had a Pigpen/TC-era release with Vol 43, but before that we have to go back to Vol 30, a gap of 13 picks, so it feels too soon for another one. That would seem to indicate that for this year's "season finale", Vol 48, conditions are ripe for either another Brent release, or maybe it's finally time for Dave's to enter the Vince/Bruce era.

If the former, it's worth pointing out that there are no Dave's Picks at all from '82, '85, '86, '88 or '89 (ofc '89 does have lots of official releases, unlike those earlier 80s years.) But for the latter, I always wonder about sales. With Dave's 45 (a double release) taking months to sell out, and 46 not sold out at this writing, does Rhino want to bankroll and produce 25,000 copies of a show from '93 or '94? My own guess is "no". Fall 1990 already has some official releases, and so does June 1991. But there are some good Shoreline shows from 1991 including the August stand. The Oakland run in Feb 1991 was notable (NSB breakout on 2/19; long show with Olatunde on 2/20; CNY show with the final post-space Eyes on 2/21, a night where Garcia was clearly 'on'.) And there's also the Halloween run that year - both 10/27 and 10/31 are excellent. So my own feeling is, if Dave's is going to enter the Vince/Bruce era with Vol 48, then we'll see a release from 1991.

Concert Movies

Just off the top of my head, it seems to me that The T.A.M.I Show (yes this was a Television Broadcast first), The Last Waltz and Stop Making Sense usually show up near the top of the 'experts/critics' lists. I would add Neil Young Heart Of Gold from approximately 18 years ago, Woodstock (C'mon Man!!), and just a personal favorite, Monterey Pop.

My Wake of the Flood is "out for delivery"!! Damn, I can't WAIT to put it on the 'box'!!

Music is the Best!!

Talking Heads

I used to tell my kids, "there was only ONE good band in the 80's, the Talking Heads" An obvious exaggeration, but maybe not that much of one. Looking forward to the movie, were the punk, were they psychedelic, who cares, their music is good and weird

another random

I see The Last Waltz mentioned by Senor Unos

If you remember SCTV and the Schmengi Brothers...they had a sketch called "The Last Polka"

good silliness

DaveRock has doubts about Dark Star into El Paso...the reviewer in Dupree's Diamond News back the 90s wrote it is "f^cking brilliant!"

one person's brown acid is another person's Monterey Purple, I tell ya

DS>>El Paso

It wasn’t so much the El Paso, as they tended to like the completely different psychedelic Segway/juxtapositions, it was that Garcia was clearly gonna go Dew…talk about Maximus pleasuris interruptus lol. Fuggin Bob lol

OBEAH: sounds like you need to take a deep dive into fall 91…the last truly good consistent tour?
Fall 1991, make a great box…David?…o David?
9/6/91
9/8/91
9/16/91*
9/22/91
9/24/91
9/26/91*
10/31/91*

Favorite/must haves*
7 Shows
66 one time songs: really good selection!
16 Repeats
6 Threepeats
(Not including D&S)

The three peats are: Dar Star, Attics, Let It Grow, Saint, Stranger, and Good Lovin’

The repeats are: Spoonful, Dark Star Jam, Wang Dang, Candyman, Maggie’s, Standing on Moon, Last Time, Stella, Samson, Eyes, TOO, Bertha, All Over Now, Heaven’s Door, Minglewood, and A&A. Hey, no matter how you slice em, Bobs ALWAYS gonna have repeats!

9/17 and other Oakland and Richfield are probably worthy, but then you start getting into more repeats and perhaps too big a box?

Crazyness

Now I remember in the mid eighties The talk from older than me heads was discussions of the Wildness of DS>El Paso or maybe Me and My Uncle, so a lot seems to be perspective. All I know/presume is that the majority of heads know what its like when they are just hitting a peak and then quickly changing directions. It's like OMG, and then it vanishes, the ride stops short. Great for ticket sales (need to finish that thought). Like for me a Stranger>DS (with drums/space)> DS>Stranger. Last for an hour and 20, would be nice. Some of that is kidding. Shakedown could replace Stranger.

Bob was interviewed a few year back and he described it in an awesome way. Basically, each tour we get the opportunity to bring forth songs and jams, each one allowing to create new music but also to go back to other jams which have been left unfinished.

Again, to prolong the musical conversation over decades is interesting to ponder. I should have seen some of the GD bands, besides Ratdog and Phil&F's.

Is a movie a concert with other interactions or does a straight concert on film allowed.

Like those discussed and yes for me it is The Band. But as far as straight concert I really like Jimi Hendrix's Blue Wild Angel and the Who's what is it like 1970 at Isle of Wight's performance. I guess my favorite concert recording would be the Who's 1989 PPV. The DVD is fantastic but still have video tape of the PPV, now why would I do that?

Edit: not including GD

Mr. Ones & DR

T.A.M.I was an incredible production and always worth a watch. DR -I have always enjoy the Les Paul Tributes. He still doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Oh Yeah, as far as the Magic Bus and Magical Mystery Tour, complete influence from Kesey, thru SF mid-late 60's. Not to throw fire bombs...but where di dark side of the moon come from? Dark Star! I assume everyone has watched the 1964 trip to the World's fair, "Magic Trip." It was really great to see them finish that project.

Some might not know of Jerry's bus tour in either 63 or 64. He came down south looking for the True Grass. He recorded the radio shows, and some television too. Now me reading that is from the 80's. He spent a week in my state. Weird thing 10 years after, I was taping off the radio and television.

The Sphere opens tonight with U2....

....event parking prices were released. A hundred bucks. Disgusting.

Crazyness

Gary - I think it works sometimes. I can still remember sitting in a mates house listening to The Other One - Me and My Uncle- The Other One from 6/8/71 for the first time ( since memorialised on Dicks Picks 35). Jaw dropping.

I also like that T.A.M.I. show - the one with James Brown and The Stones on.
My favourite Hendrix on film has always been Woodstock. I like the whole set, but that final 30 minutes is incredible.
Speaking of which, I noticed the other day that another live Hendrix show is being officially released soon, from August 1967.

Obeah bringing straight…

Obeah bringing straight analysis :) I love speculation about picks...

p.s. That Stella Blue at the end of 47 is really quite nice.

Who would pay $100 to park a car? Who would do that?

$100 for parking

I will walk, thank you.

Better yet, say phu'q to U2 and spend the day at Valley of Fire State Park with a "snack" or two and then enjoy "Closing of Winterland"

Non-GD concert videos

I recently ordered the remastered Ziggy Stardust Movie - 50th CD/Bluray but haven’t received it yet.
I like the DVD a lot, looking forward to the remastered Blu-ray.

Yes, The Who Isle of Wight is great.

Rush 40 - 6-Blu-ray Box is awesome if you can find it.

The First Waltz - Hard Working Americans is a good concert/documentary video.

Sunshine Daydream CD/DVD - I saw several on Amazon the other day, new, not overpriced.

Bob Dylan Surprise appearance at Farm Aid

All you Dylan heads are probably aware of Dylan's appearance at Farm Aid. I recommend a blog" called "Flagging Down the Double-E's" which features an interview with the bassist for the band which reveals how the surprise appearance came about. Here's a a little excerpt from the blog:
"As if that wasn’t surprising enough, he played accompanied by two longtime members of Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers: Mike Campbell and Benmont Tench, both of whom he’d toured with extensively in the ‘80s. Alongside them were the rest of Campbell’s current band The Dirty Knobs: Bassist Lance Morrison, guitarist Chris Holt, and drummer Steve Ferrone (himself a latter-day Heartbreaker following Stan Lynch’s departure).

They performed three songs, all ‘60s classics: “Maggie’s Farm,” “Positively 4th Street,” and “Ballad of a Thin Man.” The first two of those Dylan hasn’t played in over a decade. Another surprise. And, oh yeah, one more: He played guitar on all three."
Dylan hadn't played guitar in 10 years. The blog also has video of the three songs.

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