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    Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


    By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • alvarhanso
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    Makes sense. I didn't think about the Irwin, though I noted it in the Jay Blakesberg pic. The shift to 6 stringers definitely changed their sound, because before the switch, the lowest note Phil could fret was the G on the E string, so third fret, hence any of those crazy synthy harmonics from '73-'74 especially are from some notes that are too for the system. Which is scary. Don't know how those Guilds and earlier amps/PAs could withstand his power chords. But that switch to the 6ers, and Irwin before that, led also to the switch to Phil being left out of the PA mix for the most part. That that switch roughly coincides with cassette masters makes it especially jarring when era jumping. The relative absence of Phil makes the two tracks of the 80s and 90s harder for me to get into. The multitracks are usually a different story. Will say that a recent re-listen to Giants Stadium '89 and '91 shows revealed a fairly quiet overall mix. Even when turning up a few notches past my normal listening level didn't get things super loud. Wonder if that was a limitation imposed by 24 and 48 tracks, respectively. I know the more tracks, the more things are apt to cause an imbalanced mix and hard to keep things from getting too loud, so I suppose it was erring on the side of caution. (As opposed to where it was impossible to affect much of the loudness of Phil in Dark Star and Playing in those big, distorted passages on 6/10/73, without shifting everything lower.)

    I did burn a cd version that is definitely louder, and fuller, but still not quite enough punch. Did quite a bit of A/Bing, and I think my initial remembrance on there being a full, punchy bass on Shakedown is the culprit. Set high expectations the car didn't meet. I try to have the car and computer somewhat balanced, given the mixing on the computer speakers, then checking it via car at the same volume level. But now noticing what a hit I was taking with the mp3s, I wish my car would decode flacs, no way am I investing in spindles and spindles of cdr blanks again.

    ETA: thanks for the suggestion on Anthem bonus disc, Daverock, haven't listened in a while. Always enjoy a nice New Potato Caboose. Hate to say it, but I think the Allmans ripped that off for Dreams. Duane and Gregg would've likely seen them play it, as they opened for the Dead a few times, and Duane did note Jerry teasing First There Is a Mountain in Alligator, and did something with that idea...

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    BTK 's call for 68 hopefully has fallen on receptive ears

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    Winterland 10/22/67 - the bonus disc with the last version of "Anthem". I tend to forget about this one, but it's a scorcher. Good reminder as to why more primal Dead would be so welcome.

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    42 years ago, I hitchhiked up to Oregon for a wild weekend with the Good old Grateful Dead. What a great show! Great party down by the Willamette River, all day. Hitchhiked down to Eugene after the show, caught a ride with some great guys from Washington.. Portland was crazy, Eugene was about to get crazier. Fun times!

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    Oro - Clarence Darrow AND Brian Wilson got nuthin’ on you!

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    We adopted our own version of the he man woman haters club after several of us went through bad breakups and divorces in the early nineties lol. That lil Darla was trouble ; )

    No Bass? I’d guess the combination of the unique sound of the Irwin bass, and perhaps the voicing of the speakers, and reduced frequency response of highly compressed music.
    That bass was very unique sounding, partly why I think he stopped using it. (And going “dry direct” to the board can accentuate it)
    And, very often general use speakers, especially car speakers are “voiced”, meaning their not very linear, their tweaked for lack of better word to sound a certain way that is more familiar/pleasing to the causal listener, and to integrate into less than stellar acoustic environments, like cars, radios, TVs etc…i.e., the designer might cut or boost certain frequencies of the speaker, often to compensate for idiosyncrasies inherent in cheaper general use speakers.
    Good speakers are usually more neutral or linear sounding. The goal being for the speaker to not have a “sound” but to reproduce the music as naturally as possible. To get out of the way of the music. It’s impossible to fully achieve this, but better speakers come much closer.

    So between missing info of compressed music, a unique bass sound that has not been fully processed, or voiced, and voiced speakers that might have a frequency dip at a similar frequency dip or cut of the instrument, could add up to a big hole in the bass frequencies.
    The opposite, would be a mode or resonate frequency of the bass, accentuated by a boosted speaker voicing, and possibly by the physics/space of the car or room. Even with my dedicated room and above average system I suffer from room modes around 100htz! . This would give a big unnatural, uneven loudness of certain frequency’s and/or it’s harmonics that would be much louder than all other frequencies. Unfortunately, this kind of uneven overly loud bass has become popular due to certain modern music formats…
    I’d suggest phase issues, but that shouldn’t be a problem in a car, and you stated you’ve never experienced this phenomena before. So guessing perfect storm of above issues. That Irwin bass sounded different, but good live through speakers, direct to board often not so much…this again is often due to the mix being for the house, not a recording like a Betty…
    That’s my guess Alvar, curious to see what you figure out!

    Now if you’ll please excuse us, Spanky, Buckwheat and I need to go bail Darla out for solicitation again…

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    I gotta rewatch those to see what's up with that.

    Spanky...lol

    Hey GD85 fans...2/19/85

    Glad yourz arrived, ThatMike. You'll love it.

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    We were getting worried.

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    Both highly inappropriate and highly entertaining.

    I love those shows.

    The He-man Woman Haters Club.

    Don't drink the milk. It's spoiled.

    Happy Birthday Mr. Hood.

    "Isthmus by my lucky day."

    Mr. Brown from the bank is calling on the phone for Grandma. Spanky answers. Mr. Brown asks, "Who is this?" Spanky says, "I don't know, I can't see you."

    I won't posted the more inappropriate ones.

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Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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What would yo mama think
Pretty Peggy-O

Acid Mothers Temple

"Pink Lady Lemonade"

I discovered this walking Green Lake yesterday after a snack

Veeeeerrry nice

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Did I beat BTK to the punch with this one?
Two great shows I was lucky to attend. 76 was just exactly perfect. 1982 is the last year I really enjoyed, just couldn't take Jerry's voice, health and appearance going downhill after that.

Last 5(all vinyl):
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Misfits: 12 Hits From Hell
Jefferson Airplane: 9-30-66 boot
GD: 10/9/76
Motown Chartbusters Vol 4

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Good choice Cousin! I forgot that had been issued. RGM?
10-9-76 set 2 with a 10 song jam. And what a jam.
Cheers

It is indeed possible (and quite quick 'n easy) to download the JotW @ForensicDocEleven

However, I cannot seem to post instructions, nor even DM it to you; I tried my level best, removed all l1nks etc but it just kept saying that the site won't allow embeds or lnks and it even flagged me when I tried to send you my emial addr (misspellings deliberate). UPDATE: I finally got a DM sent w/ my contact info

Oro - what a great tape to get practicing on! I love to hear how 12/5/71 has stirred people, their hearts and minds or their souls or their ears or their hands. Or all of it. There's just some powerful magic radiating from that night's efforts. God Bless the Good ol' Grateful Dead

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41 years ago today I was up at the Frost to see the Dead put on a fantastic show. This was the first time the Dead played at the Frost and it might have been my favorite. This one is a must release, if they ever release any shows from the Frost.

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Mornin', rockers!!!

I was able to capture that 1/21/71, anybody who needs/wants, you know where to find me.............

Do not underestimate the determination of a quiet man................

Rock on!!!

Doc
Determination becomes obsession and then it becomes all that matters...............

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10.22.83: Carrier Dome

Chet Atkins: Almost Alone

11.23.73: El Paso

Howlin' Wolf: The London Sessions

10.23.73: Bloomington, MN

...leave nothing but footprints; yet in a digital world, one man gathers what another man spills...

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10.22.83: Carrier Dome

Chet Atkins: Almost Alone

11.23.73: El Paso

Howlin' Wolf: The London Sessions

10.23.73: Bloomington, MN

...leave nothing but footprints; yet in a digital world, one man gathers what another man spills...

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Per Reddit, Dave's Picks 48 is 11/20/71.

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I'll withhold judgement until I hear it in full processed form.

I listened to 11/17/71 over the past few days...it was OK, but no wood.

I hope 11/20/71 remedies that.

(I love ya Dave....1968....1968....1968....1968....1968....)

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Alan I haven’t rechecked but looking at my subscription order a few days ago the date you mention was shown as DaP #48. Unless this is a cunning plot by deaddotnet to throw us off the scent it would seem that it is more than a rumour.

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43 Years ago today, 2 rocking Grateful Dead shows! Casey Jones encore on 10/9, these 2 shows burned! I'm really glad that the acoustic sets for these 2 shows were released, hopefully we will see all these shows put out in one BIG BOX SET. Fun times !!!

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… received my Grateful Dead vinyl box set,
Over 5 Lp’s recording of the Madison square garden concert from 3/9/81 and it sounds awesome! Great job on this first pressing. Really nice performance & audio quality is primo! Any one else purchase a Boxset??!

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Enjoy hoisting the banner.

Connor Bedard initial thoughts. Young and skilled, but smaller than I expected.

Thoughts and prayers go out to Barry Melrose. Tough news. I wish him well.

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....the pre-game was extra over the top. Hey! It's Vegas!
Melrose. Ugh.
Not good news regarding Mary Lou Retton either. But I guess that's on her.

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Where's forensicdoc when you need him?

Doc??

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Around comment 62 or so when it first leaked.
Not a full review but it'll do.
We said his name 3 times fast and he appeared.
Good health to the Doc & wife.
Cheers

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Anyone else order this disc? Was supposed to release over a week ago,,,, I've had no word, see no tracking on order receipt.

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The 4th pick of the year is generally good but not grate, seems this year is no exception.

In Burlington, VT visiting my daughter for her 21st and leaf peeping, she's at UVM. Was at Nectar's last night for "Dead Night." It rocked, I was one of the oldest guys there, mostly 20's and 30's. Also, this town is FULL of Dead stuff, Phish music, flags, images, nowhere to be found. Cracking me up

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Good morning to HF and all you other rockers!!!

I am here, but in serious lurker mode. One only has to ask............

IF 11/20/71 is the next Dave's, I think people will enjoy it. I'm guessing it's a returned tapes type of deal, if it's an upgrade I'm thinking of quality comparable to Albuquerque/Ann Arbor. Solid show, especially the second set. The question is, what to put on the third CD? Maybe the recently exhibited 1/21/71? Ah, one can only hope.........

Don't really wanna get into details about health issues just yet, but here's a clue.......H/O.............and I don't mean trains..........

You can find the entire cosmos lurking in its least remarkable objects.......

Rock on!

Doc
There's something about shadows because you make your own mind up about what's lurking in them.....

Maybe it would be as well to ignore the Keith era for the next couple of years. Unless something truly different can be found, like the Fall 73 shows with horns. Otherwise there's a risk we could be getting slightly inferior versions of shows we've already got.
And 10/12/68 would be brilliant way to start. No Dave's Picks released so far is remotely like it.

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… on the subject of future Dave’s picks , how about the performance at Tacoma Dome 10//20/85 ?!

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Billy's getting enough love and playing enough incredible stuff that we kinda thought he deserved his own thread.
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I'll see what's up with that...
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but hey, I'm a mod, so if you and/or others continue to have this difficulty I will pass it up the line. Sorry for the trouble! And if you have problems, describe the error messages you're getting and anything else that seems to be going on...thanks!
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10 8 81

From my Craig collection

Worth a listen

Also, another reason why I don't look at setlists: 9 25 81

A few nice surprises in that show

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I've been listening to a lot of October 83 and now I have Day Job stuck in my head... :(

Why hasn't 10/15/83 ever come out? Maybe Dave doesn't bother if there are already good boards around?

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I was at this show, lots of fun, th4e sun dome is a great place with a floating dome, place sucked you in and spat you out. Second set here is awesome, with a great Drums>Space into Jerry doing a great reading of "Comes a Time". Gimme some loving too, First time hearing the band doing that one. Good times had by all.

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...30 seemed so old.

Just reflecting back over the last few weeks and posts I had not been able to post.

Someone posted about Hampton 1988, specifically 1988-03-27. I went to the Atlanta and then Hampton shows. They were all very good, but the March 27th shows was spectacular. It had the first Space to open a set since 1985-10-31. That one was space>Werewolves of London. Know everyone around here knows that but just thought I would post just in case.

Then was discussed the 1988 Cap. Center shows. We did that run, so I was extremely happy to see the Ripple. One of my favorite songs. Although, it was sad why they played that Ripple. Did those shows, then hit Miami, Tampa-St. Pete, and New Orleans.

Someone posted about Eric Clapton 24 nights. I have the dvd and cd's. Watched the dvd a couple of weeks back. It is very good but has its flaws also.

Seems like there was one more but it slips me.

I also in the last few weeks listened to Chicago's first 2 albums remastered on cd, both are great. The first album is still my favorite.

Oh well, enough for now.

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are relatively brief. But fun.

Ripple....they played that in 88 immediately after the two blechy shows in the Northwest, Tacoma (actually, kind of OK with Touch of Grey out of Space) and Eugene (still annoyed by that show in 2023)

I like the idea of it. I am half way through Paris 9/18/74, so I will be having my brain drilled by Seastones later tonight. That opens set 2, as it did for a few other 74 shows, so maybe that was a sort of precedent for the set opening Spaces.

Too busy lately, whats happened to our daylight. Thank goodness for GOGD. Have been trying to review much of E72, including the couple shows never heard before like Newcastle and loving every minute. As much as I have banged on the primal drum and would love to have more 1968, 71-73 is such peak period too, E72 monumental. Just had the extra fun and unlikely experience of running into John Scott of Deadbase fame a few minutes ago in a place so close to my home as to be almost next door. John is a friend of a friend but we had never met, a student at Dartmouth, where I later worked. Quickly traded stories, both at the 1980 Lewiston concert, recent music etc. Am certain I made him late for something. This crazy world can be such a small place, we must keep love friendship and peace in our hearts, madness and hatred out.

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I just received my email about Vol 48, on sale next Tuesday the 17th...it is 11/20/71 at Pauley Pavilion as we all knew...faintly remember it...they had two lines...one for the floor and one for the upper level seats...some fun...

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