Dave's Picks Vol. 47: Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 12/9/79

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Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.

By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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August 10, 2023 - 11:32am

#931

Vguy72

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David LaFlamme....

....I remember him from Frasier!
August 10, 2023 - 10:24am

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Gary Farseer

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Alvarhanso

I was in W-S to start on my master's degree at Wake Forest. As it had been a while since undergraduate degree, they wanted some of the older folks to attend an advanced math boot camp to reinforce/prepare for the coming math onslaught. Started boot camp on August 7th. The camp was 7am till noon for five days.

WFU gave me a great education. Previously I had been what is called a "Lead Negotiator" for the federal govt. Just had to get out of there, as by working harder, I was honored by doing the work of the many less than acceptable employees. Now as I approach 60, I am semi-retired and have worked from home almost 15 years. So things worked out well. Have time to read and sometimes post here.

More later on Robbie, other topics here.

Still we must smile smile smile
August 10, 2023 - 10:21am

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That Mike

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RR Redux

Great post, Oro, and you raise some really valid points. You have first hand knowledge, and that had to be an incredible trip being with them (and I agree on Jim Weider’s guitar prowess). I know the guys were also pissed that RR never shared songwriter credit (and the incredible royalties), but why were they not equally upset at Dylan for excluding them for songwriting on the Basement Tapes? Excusing Lee being a late arrival to the Tapes, I cannot believe that Tears of Rage (Richard) and This Wheels On Fire (Rick) were the only two songs they helped shape? Garth and RR contributed zilch!? So why didn’t they have an axe to grind with Dylan?
So there is a lot of here say and egos and anger that did them in, and that was unfortunate. But the stories you tell are great, and it had to be a hell of an experience to see them play first hand.
We know, too, how destructive drug addiction can be - look no further than Jerry and Brent. And with three of them heavily into junk, Robertson must have felt like it was nailing jello to a wall trying to get them sober enough to record. I’m just saying a lot of stuff is hung on RR I don’t think was fair.
August 10, 2023 - 10:01am

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Oroborous

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3 sides to every story Mike

Yes, I’d say the truth is skewed a bit towards the middle, but as you say RR could be very self serving. Probably why he did so well on his own, especially with film etc. And yeah, those boys weren’t always the most professional.
I got to work several dozen shows with them in the nineties and there were definitely some sub par outings that usually could be attributed to use, or more likely, being without and not being able to…I remember this one show in Houston in 96 at some small dumpy club. Horrible super short show. Pauly the roadie told me Lee wanted to stop after like 3 or 4 songs. Pauly said he kept having to tell him “Lee, you just started, it’s only been like a half hour” etc.
But the majority of shows, though perhaps short, we’re very enjoyable. Some nights, usually if there was more incentive than the endless crappy clubs, you could still witness the greatness first hand. We were on stage with them when they opened for the Dead at those last Chicago shows, and they played great. With Jimmy Weider, Randy Ciarlante on drums, and the great Richard Bell on piano, I saw nights that were amazing. And what a dance band!
I danced way more at Band shows in the nineties than Dead shows.
I think if they’d been playing the caliber of shows they had become a custom too, they would have been more motivated and thus professional. Traveling hard and playing clubs is tough enough even if you’ve never been that famous.
Yeah I can understand Robbie’s POV, and he certainly is justified in personally wanting more/different, but it’s the way he went about it that leaves a bad taste.
Honestly, I think much of it was Lee didn’t know anything else but playing, so like Bob and Jer needed to be playing, it’s who he was. So I think maybe deep down he was bummed that Robbie sorta took that away, for awhile at least. He overly blamed Robbie for breaking his heart more than anything, and so turned that into anger…and hey, sometimes it’s easier to put the blame elsewhere?
But Boy it would have been cool to see them get together even if just for that Carnegie reunion run. The band was tight then and Robbie would have just been the Cherry on top!
Really it’s all just a shame they couldn’t have worked something out besides all or nothing…
Oh well, as a former muscian I’ve always said being in a band is like being married to several people.
The musics the easy part it’s all the rest that makes and breaks bands.
August 10, 2023 - 9:52am

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proudfoot

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8 3 82

I gotta get that and some other 80s going on
August 10, 2023 - 9:51am

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proudfoot

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Hopefully none of you fellow Deadheads...

live on Maui

A tragedy and a half
August 10, 2023 - 9:18am

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*RE/ Dave’s picks

… any Love for the dead’s ‘STARLIGHT THEATRE’ - AUGUST 3, 1982 performances from the entire band ! Bob is really nailing it during crucial parts of the performance on every song. Jerry is on top of his game! Jerry’s guitar playing seems to be pouring out his fingers going down the frets of the guitar! Fire indeed! The first set is one of the strongest in a long time! 11 songs if I remember correctly. The second set shows the band flying down the train tracks with a a killer “ Casey Jones!” As an encore . Very rare at this point in time in the dead’s playing.
The second set contains amazing good Ol Grateful Dead musicianship as a band! Grateful Setlist as well! Anyone else a fan of this show??
Beautiful’Stella Blue’ very sweet!
One of my favorite ‘he’s Gone’ primo!
Setlist 1
Mississippi Half-Step
Franklin's Tower
New Minglewood Blues
Peggy-O
El Paso
Cumberland Blues
Althea
Cassidy
Big Railroad Blues
Man Smart/Woman Smarter
Might As Well
‘Set 2’
Shakedown Street
Samson and Delilah
To Lay Me Down
Let it Grow
drums
He's Gone
The Other One
Stella Blue
Sugar Magnolia

Casey Jones
August 10, 2023 - 8:57am

#938

proudfoot

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It always seems to boil down to $$$

Same old story and I know it's been told

Some like jelly jelly

The vast majority like gold.

Easy for me to say, but if I had 2 million in the bank, I would gift some to my bandmates.

But I don't have 2 million in the bank nor former bandmates, so maybe I'm full of brown acid.
August 10, 2023 - 8:13am

#939

That Mike

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Oro

Oro - I agree the guys were pretty sore at Robbie, Levon especially. Robbie argued that Lee, Rick and especially Richard became major fuck ups and too unreliable to record or tour, and I’m sure the truth is somewhere in the middle. I’m not defending RR, and I found his film (Band of Brothers) and his book kind of self-serving, but lots of bands break up, and the guys don’t crash and burn like those guys did. They did live hard, and maybe there was truth to what RR said. Maybe Garth is the only guy that knows? But regardless, they made music for the ages. Timeless.
PS - I agree with VGuy that August 9 kind of has an aura about it now.
August 10, 2023 - 8:02am

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Oroborous

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That’s just it Mike…

…THEY, didn’t want to quit, only Robbie did. He tried to make it out like “they” did, but it was only him.
Heard this straight from Lee himself around the time they were getting offered millions to do a reunion at Carnegie Hall. The Band and especially Lee could have really used the bread.
That’s how hurt and stubborn Lee was about Robbie breaking up the band: he’d rather be broke…

Of course the Band kept on in one form or another and eventually Jimmy Weider took over the guitar slot and did a Hellava job! The 90s Band was sweet if perhaps not the monster they once were.

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Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.

By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

October 8

1989

6/10/73

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:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Yo mama

What would yo mama think
Pretty Peggy-O

Maybe return to Managua?

Yo Mama

Good walking music

Acid Mothers Temple

"Pink Lady Lemonade"

I discovered this walking Green Lake yesterday after a snack

Veeeeerrry nice

10-9-76 & 10-9-82

Did I beat BTK to the punch with this one?
Two great shows I was lucky to attend. 76 was just exactly perfect. 1982 is the last year I really enjoyed, just couldn't take Jerry's voice, health and appearance going downhill after that.

Last 5(all vinyl):
Caravan: For Girls who Grow Plump in the Night
Misfits: 12 Hits From Hell
Jefferson Airplane: 9-30-66 boot
GD: 10/9/76
Motown Chartbusters Vol 4

DP33 Vinyl

Good choice Cousin! I forgot that had been issued. RGM?
10-9-76 set 2 with a 10 song jam. And what a jam.
Cheers

"Capturing" the JotW / Felt Forum redux

It is indeed possible (and quite quick 'n easy) to download the JotW @ForensicDocEleven

However, I cannot seem to post instructions, nor even DM it to you; I tried my level best, removed all l1nks etc but it just kept saying that the site won't allow embeds or lnks and it even flagged me when I tried to send you my emial addr (misspellings deliberate). UPDATE: I finally got a DM sent w/ my contact info

Oro - what a great tape to get practicing on! I love to hear how 12/5/71 has stirred people, their hearts and minds or their souls or their ears or their hands. Or all of it. There's just some powerful magic radiating from that night's efforts. God Bless the Good ol' Grateful Dead

Dead net broken?

Seems to be stuck.

Edit: seems ok now.

If you go to the Hammacher Schlemmer website....

....they offer a 5' animated dancing skeleton for your yard.

Anniversary show 10/9/82. Frost Ampitheatre

41 years ago today I was up at the Frost to see the Dead put on a fantastic show. This was the first time the Dead played at the Frost and it might have been my favorite. This one is a must release, if they ever release any shows from the Frost.

The truest wisdom is a resolute determination......

Mornin', rockers!!!

I was able to capture that 1/21/71, anybody who needs/wants, you know where to find me.............

Do not underestimate the determination of a quiet man................

Rock on!!!

Doc
Determination becomes obsession and then it becomes all that matters...............

Last Five

10.22.83: Carrier Dome

Chet Atkins: Almost Alone

11.23.73: El Paso

Howlin' Wolf: The London Sessions

10.23.73: Bloomington, MN

...leave nothing but footprints; yet in a digital world, one man gathers what another man spills...

Last Five

10.22.83: Carrier Dome

Chet Atkins: Almost Alone

11.23.73: El Paso

Howlin' Wolf: The London Sessions

10.23.73: Bloomington, MN

...leave nothing but footprints; yet in a digital world, one man gathers what another man spills...

DaP 48 Rumor

Per Reddit, Dave's Picks 48 is 11/20/71.

11/20/71

I'll withhold judgement until I hear it in full processed form.

I listened to 11/17/71 over the past few days...it was OK, but no wood.

I hope 11/20/71 remedies that.

(I love ya Dave....1968....1968....1968....1968....1968....)

Dap #48 Rumour

Alan I haven’t rechecked but looking at my subscription order a few days ago the date you mention was shown as DaP #48. Unless this is a cunning plot by deaddotnet to throw us off the scent it would seem that it is more than a rumour.

Anniversary shows 10/9 & 10/80 Warfield Theatre

43 Years ago today, 2 rocking Grateful Dead shows! Casey Jones encore on 10/9, these 2 shows burned! I'm really glad that the acoustic sets for these 2 shows were released, hopefully we will see all these shows put out in one BIG BOX SET. Fun times !!!

*Re/ Listing too , NEW vinyl Boxset - 3/9/81

… received my Grateful Dead vinyl box set,
Over 5 Lp’s recording of the Madison square garden concert from 3/9/81 and it sounds awesome! Great job on this first pressing. Really nice performance & audio quality is primo! Any one else purchase a Boxset??!

Last 5

The Doors Matrix ‘67
3 CD’s

Wake of the Flood 50th and bonus
2 CD’s

Vguy

Enjoy hoisting the banner.

Connor Bedard initial thoughts. Young and skilled, but smaller than I expected.

Thoughts and prayers go out to Barry Melrose. Tough news. I wish him well.

AJS....

....the pre-game was extra over the top. Hey! It's Vegas!
Melrose. Ugh.
Not good news regarding Mary Lou Retton either. But I guess that's on her.

Anniversary show 10/10/82 Frost

41 years ago today it was high times at the Frost. Fun times!

Frosting on the Greek

No release from either locale

Why?

Not in vault?

11-20-71?

Where's forensicdoc when you need him?

Doc??

7 Pages Back HF

Around comment 62 or so when it first leaked.
Not a full review but it'll do.
We said his name 3 times fast and he appeared.
Good health to the Doc & wife.
Cheers

Oteil doing Jerry

Anyone else order this disc? Was supposed to release over a week ago,,,, I've had no word, see no tracking on order receipt.

New Pick, Burly

The 4th pick of the year is generally good but not grate, seems this year is no exception.

In Burlington, VT visiting my daughter for her 21st and leaf peeping, she's at UVM. Was at Nectar's last night for "Dead Night." It rocked, I was one of the oldest guys there, mostly 20's and 30's. Also, this town is FULL of Dead stuff, Phish music, flags, images, nowhere to be found. Cracking me up

Say his name three times...

Looks like our go fund me page to make bail for HF achieved it's goal.

Welcome back old friend.

Tomorrow lurks in us-the latency to be all that was not achieved

Good morning to HF and all you other rockers!!!

I am here, but in serious lurker mode. One only has to ask............

IF 11/20/71 is the next Dave's, I think people will enjoy it. I'm guessing it's a returned tapes type of deal, if it's an upgrade I'm thinking of quality comparable to Albuquerque/Ann Arbor. Solid show, especially the second set. The question is, what to put on the third CD? Maybe the recently exhibited 1/21/71? Ah, one can only hope.........

Don't really wanna get into details about health issues just yet, but here's a clue.......H/O.............and I don't mean trains..........

You can find the entire cosmos lurking in its least remarkable objects.......

Rock on!

Doc
There's something about shadows because you make your own mind up about what's lurking in them.....

10/12/68 Avalon Ballroom Official Release Please.

55 years ago today The Dead really tore it up at the Avalon Ballroom. Dave, this needs to be an official release.

official releases

Maybe it would be as well to ignore the Keith era for the next couple of years. Unless something truly different can be found, like the Fall 73 shows with horns. Otherwise there's a risk we could be getting slightly inferior versions of shows we've already got.
And 10/12/68 would be brilliant way to start. No Dave's Picks released so far is remotely like it.

*\Re/ future Dave’s Picks

… on the subject of future Dave’s picks , how about the performance at Tacoma Dome 10//20/85 ?!

LMG - 1985-10-26 - Sun Dome - Tampa, FL

I see no tacoma dome,,,, but there is this. Nice recording

Billy Strings sat in with TOOL in SLC....

....nice.

Billy Strings, slight heads up

Billy's getting enough love and playing enough incredible stuff that we kinda thought he deserved his own thread.

BMFS gets his own thread?....

....well deserved. Thanks Marye!
Tried to post there. Unable to. Error message.

argh!

I'll see what's up with that...

OK, I was just able to post there

but hey, I'm a mod, so if you and/or others continue to have this difficulty I will pass it up the line. Sorry for the trouble! And if you have problems, describe the error messages you're getting and anything else that seems to be going on...thanks!

Working now....

....👍

Mods and rockers

Couldn't resist

Danish GD

10 8 81

From my Craig collection

Worth a listen

Also, another reason why I don't look at setlists: 9 25 81

A few nice surprises in that show

I've been listening to a lot…

I've been listening to a lot of October 83 and now I have Day Job stuck in my head... :(

Why hasn't 10/15/83 ever come out? Maybe Dave doesn't bother if there are already good boards around?

10-26-85

I was at this show, lots of fun, th4e sun dome is a great place with a floating dome, place sucked you in and spat you out. Second set here is awesome, with a great Drums>Space into Jerry doing a great reading of "Comes a Time". Gimme some loving too, First time hearing the band doing that one. Good times had by all.

Remember When...

...30 seemed so old.

Just reflecting back over the last few weeks and posts I had not been able to post.

Someone posted about Hampton 1988, specifically 1988-03-27. I went to the Atlanta and then Hampton shows. They were all very good, but the March 27th shows was spectacular. It had the first Space to open a set since 1985-10-31. That one was space>Werewolves of London. Know everyone around here knows that but just thought I would post just in case.

Then was discussed the 1988 Cap. Center shows. We did that run, so I was extremely happy to see the Ripple. One of my favorite songs. Although, it was sad why they played that Ripple. Did those shows, then hit Miami, Tampa-St. Pete, and New Orleans.

Someone posted about Eric Clapton 24 nights. I have the dvd and cd's. Watched the dvd a couple of weeks back. It is very good but has its flaws also.

Seems like there was one more but it slips me.

I also in the last few weeks listened to Chicago's first 2 albums remastered on cd, both are great. The first album is still my favorite.

Oh well, enough for now.

I didn't know that

I didn't know they had ever opened a set with space.

The opening Spaces....

are relatively brief. But fun.

Ripple....they played that in 88 immediately after the two blechy shows in the Northwest, Tacoma (actually, kind of OK with Touch of Grey out of Space) and Eugene (still annoyed by that show in 2023)

Set Opening Space

I like the idea of it. I am half way through Paris 9/18/74, so I will be having my brain drilled by Seastones later tonight. That opens set 2, as it did for a few other 74 shows, so maybe that was a sort of precedent for the set opening Spaces.

Deadbase moment

Too busy lately, whats happened to our daylight. Thank goodness for GOGD. Have been trying to review much of E72, including the couple shows never heard before like Newcastle and loving every minute. As much as I have banged on the primal drum and would love to have more 1968, 71-73 is such peak period too, E72 monumental. Just had the extra fun and unlikely experience of running into John Scott of Deadbase fame a few minutes ago in a place so close to my home as to be almost next door. John is a friend of a friend but we had never met, a student at Dartmouth, where I later worked. Quickly traded stories, both at the 1980 Lewiston concert, recent music etc. Am certain I made him late for something. This crazy world can be such a small place, we must keep love friendship and peace in our hearts, madness and hatred out.

so...

I just received my email about Vol 48, on sale next Tuesday the 17th...it is 11/20/71 at Pauley Pavilion as we all knew...faintly remember it...they had two lines...one for the floor and one for the upper level seats...some fun...

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