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    Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


    By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • #711
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    Brilliant, never put that 2gether!!! Except its BK isnt it??? "You rule!"

    haha got me.

  • #712
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    Oro and Jingles

    The current Burger King commerical.... don't know how they get away with it....

    BJ have it your way....

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    Agreed, both of you

    Yeah, that was my guess as I’ve unfortunately never been to England.
    Just thought from all I’ve heard/read that it’s definitely more outwardly reserved there, but of course jumping around like an idiot doesn’t mean yer getting “it” lol In the old days it was definitely more inward. As the crowds grew, that wasn’t necessarily the case. More doesn’t mean better lol.
    I guess I mean that as our friends across the pound didn’t get to see as many shows, or travel around with the touring city, (we are everywhere is probably something folks here understand) and deal with redneck ahole cops who wipe their arse with the constitution, or experience days or weeks at a time camping/partying etc, massive Shakedown streets etc, the WHOLE GD experience, experienced from the ground up, versus “going to a concert”, you might not have been able to fully “understand”.
    Now I’m not suggesting you HAD to experience all that to understand, just think there’s a socialization that perhaps was different and not as prevalent over there? Just a band/music, and not as much a way of life , and so all the years, milage, adventures, good and bad, perhaps might foster a different kind of knowing?
    An Experiential knowledge perhaps, more than just a interested fan, or someone with only unbridled enthusiasm!
    Perhaps more like the knowledge obtained from being in a war on the front lines, versus just studying it, or being on the periphery?

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    Group consciousness

    I would definitely agree that American audiences are more expressive than British ones, going off those 3 Dead concerts at Wembley in 1990. It was quite surprising to me how vocal many of them were in there appreciation of the music. Nothing wrong with that at all, either - just different.

    There are also, of course, exercises in group consciousness that have nothing to do with sport or music. Group meditation sessions can give you a feeling of being at one with the other participants. Whether that is imaginary or not, I couldn't say. One of my friends recently told me he once went on a Buddhist Retreat, in which all the residents were completely silent for the week they spent together. He reckoned that after a few days, he could tell what people were thinking without talking. Again, I don't know how true that was.

    Oro - no offence at all in what you say. Always good to chew the fat, as they say.

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    It depends a lot on the group. Audiences in England are far more reserved than their American counterparts. As a result there is far less of a sense of being part of a group. That doesn't mean that English audiences don't appreciate the music, rather there is less of a vibe from the audience to pick up on.

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    Dammit

    Little Willy, go home now...

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    Sweeney Todd

    Answer is? Jersey Girl

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    Well Done DR!

    Yes that’s it. And I didn’t mean to insult you or sound elitist, it’s just your descriptions of your live Dead experiences, compared to as you say other concerts etc, made me think you unfortunately didn’t get to enjoy the full Monty.
    Again, no offense but I imagine seeing them under less than ideal circumstances in England, probably was not the same as tripping in the dust with several tens of thousands of dancing freaks all peaking simultaneously with the band and song, at say Hampton, or Philly, oye all that positive energy…
    The example that immediately pops into me noggin is the Shakedown from 6/30/85.
    I can still see and feel the multiple peaks that rolled through the dust stomping crowd completely being driven by the music. Basically, like 30k people having a simultaneous orgasm!
    But you understand the point, and it’s awesome that you get some of that from just the music, but I’m bummed for you that you may not have gotten the full Dead experience.

    EDIT: I guess what I’m saying is, take what you felt at those other powerful large group experiences, and multiply it logarithmically….tripping on the floor at a smoking GA Dead show back in the day was like a playoff football stadium all tripping, at tge peak of the game…. times 11! And even Nigel can’t go above 11 ; )

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    Oro - yes, I think I know what you mean. I have experienced being in large crowds of people at celebratory events, although the 5 Dead shows I saw didn't quite affect me like that. When I was very young, still a child, seeing Manchester United, when George Best and Denis Law were still playing was amazing. I had never been amongst such a large crowd, and had only seen football on a tiny little black and white television-so the colours and sound of the crowd, even before the players came, out was amazing.
    In my mid teens, the early rock concerts I saw had an energy about them - again incredible volume, power, songs I liked, and a sense of having found "my people". Of all bands, Black Sabbath were maybe the most like that -a truly joyous occasions. You'd never guess it, just listening to the albums. Seeing The Stones had that vibe for me, too.

    It can also go badly wrong, of course, this group mind thing, as I am thinking about it. Gangs of people have committed all sorts of crimes and atrocities that individually they would never have done otherwise.
    I also often have a tendency to stand outside things I am a part of - and maybe that happened when I was on my own at the Dead shows. When I wasn't on my own, I was falling out with my girlfriend or some damn thing. I really enjoyed the shows - but the most pleasure I have had listening to the Dead wasn't actually at live shows, but has been at home. Long may it continue !

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    Ha, I knew Dennis was gonna say that lol
    Don’t be messin with D trains musicals ; )

    DR: I think it was more about the group consciousness obtained from being with all those like minded people, especially when so many were in a “heightened” state of consciousness, all extremely focused on the same thing, and the emotional influences of the music, and how it was taking place in that particular time and space…
    It’s a sociological phenomena that can be experienced in similar ways among any large, like minded crowd.
    A football stadium full of rapid fans for instance, though their group consciousness is probably not expanded in the same positive way exactly. From what you’ve described of your limited show experiences I fear you missed some of that? Getting snockered on depressants in the balcony and passing out probably didn’t facilitate this experience, but I’m sure many people go just to listen to music, not experience it on another level.
    Like, it doesn’t matter what you ware, just as long as you are there …it’s a about tge overall experience as much as tge music, if that makes sense?
    OK, this isn’t coming out right, it’s too early to think this much lol, somebody who “knows”, please help us out here, or DR is gonna take this all wrong and we don’t want that…

    How bout,

    My baloney has a first name
    It’s O S C A R
    My baloney has a second name it’s
    M E Y E R …
    Ha take that PF! ; )

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Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 14:43

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I would like to thank those who reached out to me privately after my last post of why I was so scarce in these parts...thanks to you all who reached out...mucho appreciation for that...and Oro thank you for the kind words re Mr Jinks and his passing...I am sure he is causing trouble wherever he and Violet are...saw a cool cartoon recently...a dog and cat are sitting in front of God's throne awaiting judgement...God asks the dog "Were you a good Dog?" the dog answers "Yes...I loved my master, enjoyed our walks and brought him his slippers every morning"...God tells him 'Yes...you were a very good dog...then he asks the cat "Were you a good cat?" and the cat answers "You're sitting in my chair"...Hey Hendrix freak who ya doing???

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Submitted by estimating prof on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 15:49

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I've enjoyed Dave's 47 quite a bit. Lots of little extra musical lines and jam pieces along the way. A really good show that I had not heard before.

The 48 announcement is the first disappointing one for me with Dave's Picks for a while. I'm not excited about Fall 71. There are so many official releases from that tour at this point. I'd much rather see something different - how about 91 instead of 71? Don't get me wrong I like the 70s and the great sounding recordings. Just feel like this particular tour has been done. I like the Chicago and Albuquerque releases but I couldn't get into the Felt forum shows. In my opinion a lot of the newer songs in late 71 are just much better developed in 72 and beyond. Anyhow, not what personally was looking for but hey.... so be it.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 16:42

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Man I love Deadbase. I spend several hours a week in it. I had planned to right about them today, after writing about the Space set openers. That comes from Deadbase. They were short lived but weird. Guys at Deadbase have put so much research into their efforts. Thanks Guys!!! Next step is to get data into a searchable database. That would be something. With all of that research, that is probably only 25% of the overall knowledge as much has to be discovered in their Raiders of the Lost Ark warehouse.

Great story!

G

Well, that explains why I don't remember being at the Capital Centre in 1988. I was in Washington State. Caught the Tacoma Dome show, Santana opened, then spent the next 3 weeks tooling around in the mountains and on the coast. A great time to be in rainy state, it barely rained at all...

… have a Grateful Dead Backstage Pass 10-19-85 Tacoma Dome Kelley Mouse artwork 1985. Looks like a A card from a deck, Stanley made it look like a King Of Roses Instead of putting a King of Hearts! I could never figure out how to post
photos here.
10/20/85 they didn’t allow a tapers section. It’s a diamond in the rough.I believe

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 19:50

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GD was to play there in 85. I was attending college in Tacoma at the time.

They cancelled.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 06:24

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For Gary, couple more bits... was at a local nursery, the landscaping kind, saw a guy walk by with Deadbase X under his arm, various book markers/notes sticking out. Seemed a little odd, until a few minutes later I walked over to speak with him, since he appeared to be hanging out. As I did, overheard him and an employee mention Phish, no big surprise either. We spoke pretty widely for twenty minutes or so, wanted to sound out his interests in music now, as I had heard that once Deadbase 50 was out, he his two partners said we are done. He plays guitar for fun, had a t-shirt on with various Fenders. I participate in a local "network" that shares announcements of live music events of all kinds, esp the small off the radar house concerts etc and sought to see where he went for that, as he still lives where he has for decades, less than an hour south of here, so close enough. Could reach out to him through close mutual friend and ask about any efforts on searchable data bases, though I think between all thats on the web now, its out there albeit in pieces.

We're at 80% in Plano.

My son and my buddy went to San Antonio,,, gonna be 100%.

My brother in Midland, TX, will be at 100%.

I would have been in San Anton, but sick dog.

Come April next year, we'll see 100% in Plano.

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 09:37

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Surely this is the End of the World. Tzitzimimeh swallowed the Sun (most of it, anyway) and soon we are plunged into Eternal Dark. I pray to Saint Jerome of Garcia to save us.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 10:12

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Some kind folks outside had a pinhole telescope thingie

it was nice to behold the eclipse that way

Also watched it on NASA website

Awesome

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 12:25

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I have rethought Davz 38
9/8/73

Really good stuff y'all

Edit
A song only a Deadhead could love?

Let me sing your blues away

Fun little tune

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Submitted by nitecat on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 15:55

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"He could kick ass and take names with the Hammond B3 Organ!" - David Gans.
"He had everything to live for, why did he have to go now? - Jerilyn Brandelius
"He's Gone: A Tribute to Brent Mydland" now streaming on
dreamswedreamed dot com.
I'm very proud to release this last episode of DTV, a half hour tribute to Brent. This was the 18th episode, and took about two months to produce, write and edit. It includes interviews with many deadheads (it was Dead Head TV, after all). We also interviewed Dave Margen who played with Brent in Go Ahead, as well as authors Blair Jackson, David Gans, and Jerilyn Brandelius. We were fortunate to sit down with lyricist John Barlow, who shared his experience co-writing Brent's last songs.

Wow!!!

I wanted to thank, Dave on the last release. When I opened it and pulled out the insert, it was a picture of Brent. Thought that was Nice. There is a longer story to this, but I have hit uptown.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 22:30

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....love me some Brent. We go way back, you know.
The girl at the seven minute two mark though. : . : .older Dead isn't as bright? Love it.
Edit.
Forgot about that Little Light video. '80's cheese.
Love it.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 03:27

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Happy Sunday, rockers!!!

In preparation for the new release, I have been listening closely to the November 1971 shows. The high quality of both Harding shows goes without saying, and the 7th is indeed classic. Even the chaotic Atlanta show has its moments, and continued thanks to John McCook, for sharing memories of that evening. The very solid and perpetually underappreciated San Antonio and TCU shows lead us nicely to the exceptionally strong, semi-classic, personally cherished Austin and Albuquerque shows. Pauley continues in that vein, and I'm expecting a substantial sonic upgrade for all of us. Let's all listen with an open mind and ear...............

Many of the October and November 1971 shows are actually very strong and foretold the future without Pigpen. Always worth a listen..................

Man approaches the unattainable truth through a succession of errors.........

Rock on!

Doc
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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 09:11

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On the archive found a group called Guilty Pleasures.

Only 3 shows out there, but nicely recorded and nice song picks

Seems like Dave Nelson and David Gans are involved.

Worth the shot.

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 12:40

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One thing that occurred to me, listening to the two opening shows in the "River" box - 12/9 and 12/10/71 was that they seemed much more rocking in them, than in shows from Fall 1972 and all 1973. Interesting how this lineup evolved in the three years they were operating. In Fall 1971 they sound, to me, like a rock n' roll band, and this forms the bedrock for all they played.By Fall 1974 they sounded more like a jazz band - who sometimes played rock and roll - but did so in the way a jazz band would do it, rather than a rock band.

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Submitted by Noah's Great Rainbow on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 14:14

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I also share your love of 1971 and am looking forward to the next release too I hold out hope will they finally release Stanford 1973 After many years of archival releases I am surprised Does anyone know why not So many
firsts and Wavy Gravy who is pure love

Sorry about no punctuation I try to post dozens of times it almost never works Thats why this forum is so dead possibly This forum gets an A for effort but a D for execution I would have given up long ago but you all got me thru the pandemic and I kinda like it here but Im not sure how much longer i can do this

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 16:41

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Noah's Great Rainbow>>>>>check your PMs.

Wisdom alone is the science of other sciences............

Rock on!!

Doc
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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 16:50

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Memories of watching 3s company way back

Inane, but I was a kid, so i watched.

Mortality, take a seat. I ain't ready for you yet.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 19:25

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....the running joke was characters mishearing conversations. It worked.
Oh. And Mr. Roper breaking the 4th wall. RIP Suzanne.
I miss the '80's.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 05:11

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In no particular order : Greatest Story Ever Told, Estimated Prophet. , The Music Never Stopped, Cassady,, Born Crosseyed, The Other One, Truckiin,

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 08:36

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Thanks for the loss of a hundred bucks, Dennis. Guess it evens out since I got 6/10/73 at a good price. Wonder why Real Gone isn't releasing this through their site, checked my emails and nothing from them about this. They had decent prices on the two Vaults I'm lacking, but not needing.

Still nonplussed about 48, but in the next week or so, we should be hearing about number 49, and then a few more weeks until we hear about numero 50!

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Submitted by bluecrow on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 09:25

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Alvarhanso - It goes on sale at RealGone 10/19 at 10 am PST. There is a "soldout" placeholder listing with info on upcoming sales time. $49.99 list right now in placeholder.

Saw the Real Gone email an hour ago and emailed Experience to try and cancel on the grounds that a 50 buck markup was ridiculous. We'll see if they do the right thing. Just wanted some peace of mind after having to scramble on DiP 1 a few months ago. I can understand secondary market markup, but not when it hasn't even had a chance to go on sale. We'll also see if this is a moot point come Thursday, if I can get a Real Gone purchase completed at the much more reasonable price. (Love the Jerry Garcia vinyl pricing!)

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 13:04

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Wonder if ole Dave will do seaside since the cat was let out of the bag early?

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 14:25

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You MISS the '80s???

Cuz you (and me) were 40 years younger then?

You'll recall the loosely related Dylan line, I'm sure.

I miss Vguy -- hey man, come out to the Rocks next summer for TTB and we'll do more than burn one!

HF

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 14:31

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Chasing a woman in Pasadena. She's a rock movin' woman. Anyhoo...

I scrolled around and saw that Senor Nappyrags asked after me. So kind. LOVED that joke: "the cat answers "You're sitting in my chair." I got another: Dogs have owners. Cats have staff.

Pretty dang good here Nappy. Beat a few serious health issues, now it's just down to, er, mental health. So I hit the Green River for a few days of paddling and popping shrooms. Ah, good for the soul!

Now prepping for a few days of backpacking in remote NW Colo, working on a new book, a new CD, physical fitness, romance, polishing agates I found on the Oregon coast. Life is good right now and I look for ways to share my fortune with those who have less.

I may not always be kind, but I'm tryin',, yours truly, HF

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 14:34

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I got that notice also. Bastards!

I wondered about cancelling also, but worried I wouldn't get one on Thursday.

Oh agony!

But I did order shelving today for the "music" room. Great sale on Elfa at the container store, got 3,000 worth of shelves for 2,000,,,,,, a 35% sale! Largest sale in their history.

So next week sometime the music comes out of boxes!!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 16:16

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Yet, at the time, I couldn’t see it.
Kept getting a message that my reCRAPTCHA answer was incorrect.

Sounds like others were having similar problems.

Twice the price for a DaP2 vinyl? Highway robbery.

PF- I was there at Folsom Field on Friday night for that debacle (long time season ticket holder).

Let's just say I had a hell of a lot more fun there this summer at the 3 Dead and Co shows.

Well, at least until Dave Matthews showed up on stage. Yeah, I said it.

Speaking of Stanford, to echo another recent poster, that Maples 73 show sure would sound great as a DaP.

Looking forward to checking out this next release, but wonder how long it will stay up in the rotation...

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 20:05

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So you got to be there.

My sympathies.

I can't imagine. Well, yes I can.

Must have been a very somber exit.

I wouldn't mind one of those, I have to say. One of the all time great releases in my book, and contrary to how these releases are normally considered, weirdly enhanced through not being the whole show.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 07:40

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Daverock, I'm with you on this one - despite DP2 being 1/3 of the full show, what was initially offered is indeed the true meat of this show. Back then when it was originally released, we didn't know any better anyway since it was only the 2nd release of the series and that DP1 was also hacked up to fit onto 2 discs. In retrospect I can see some potential criticism but at the end of the day the fact that they put that Dark Star and NFA medley in our hands was enough to fill my cup.

Cup remains full on this still today- and I was inspired to go take a listen and am in the midst of that DS right now and it's as inspiring as ever.

Be Well People!
Sixtus

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 09:04

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I had a very magical experience with that disc years ago at Discovery Park in Seattle. I listened on a CD Walkman.

One of the top 10 GD experiences for me.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 15:19

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That Dark Star is an all-timer. Is cosmic over used here? If not, it's a cool, especially cosmic Dark Star which reminds me, I can't seem to find my Cosmic Mushroom Foraging Tool. Has anyone seen it? Bet it happens to you folks all the time too.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 16:49

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Holey $hit, just went back in time on a random spin'O the wheel and got 're-acquainted' with The Fillmore from 6/6/70 and holy cow that jam out of Alligator.
This is the stuff.

The whole show just smokes Back To The Future Tire Tracks all over it.

Sixtus

P.S. Jimmy in a parallel universe my Forager is hanging right next to my Workingman's Hatchet

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 17:31

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CD’s were around $20 each in the 1990’s, so the early DP’s had to be kept short so people were willing to spend the cash.
Back in those days I spun DP2 way more than DP1 or DP3 (which are both awesome).

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