Grateful Dead

Makes sense. I didn't think about the Irwin, though I noted it in the Jay Blakesberg pic. The shift to 6 stringers definitely changed their sound, because before the switch, the lowest note Phil could fret was the G on the E string, so third fret, hence any of those crazy synthy harmonics from '73-'74 especially are from some notes that are too for the system. Which is scary. Don't know how those Guilds and earlier amps/PAs could withstand his power chords. But that switch to the 6ers, and Irwin before that, led also to the switch to Phil being left out of the PA mix for the most part. That that switch roughly coincides with cassette masters makes it especially jarring when era jumping. The relative absence of Phil makes the two tracks of the 80s and 90s harder for me to get into. The multitracks are usually a different story. Will say that a recent re-listen to Giants Stadium '89 and '91 shows revealed a fairly quiet overall mix. Even when turning up a few notches past my normal listening level didn't get things super loud. Wonder if that was a limitation imposed by 24 and 48 tracks, respectively. I know the more tracks, the more things are apt to cause an imbalanced mix and hard to keep things from getting too loud, so I suppose it was erring on the side of caution. (As opposed to where it was impossible to affect much of the loudness of Phil in Dark Star and Playing in those big, distorted passages on 6/10/73, without shifting everything lower.)

I did burn a cd version that is definitely louder, and fuller, but still not quite enough punch. Did quite a bit of A/Bing, and I think my initial remembrance on there being a full, punchy bass on Shakedown is the culprit. Set high expectations the car didn't meet. I try to have the car and computer somewhat balanced, given the mixing on the computer speakers, then checking it via car at the same volume level. But now noticing what a hit I was taking with the mp3s, I wish my car would decode flacs, no way am I investing in spindles and spindles of cdr blanks again.

ETA: thanks for the suggestion on Anthem bonus disc, Daverock, haven't listened in a while. Always enjoy a nice New Potato Caboose. Hate to say it, but I think the Allmans ripped that off for Dreams. Duane and Gregg would've likely seen them play it, as they opened for the Dead a few times, and Duane did note Jerry teasing First There Is a Mountain in Alligator, and did something with that idea...

BTK 's call for 68 hopefully has fallen on receptive ears

Winterland 10/22/67 - the bonus disc with the last version of "Anthem". I tend to forget about this one, but it's a scorcher. Good reminder as to why more primal Dead would be so welcome.

42 years ago, I hitchhiked up to Oregon for a wild weekend with the Good old Grateful Dead. What a great show! Great party down by the Willamette River, all day. Hitchhiked down to Eugene after the show, caught a ride with some great guys from Washington.. Portland was crazy, Eugene was about to get crazier. Fun times!

:)))

Oro - Clarence Darrow AND Brian Wilson got nuthin’ on you!

We adopted our own version of the he man woman haters club after several of us went through bad breakups and divorces in the early nineties lol. That lil Darla was trouble ; )

No Bass? I’d guess the combination of the unique sound of the Irwin bass, and perhaps the voicing of the speakers, and reduced frequency response of highly compressed music.
That bass was very unique sounding, partly why I think he stopped using it. (And going “dry direct” to the board can accentuate it)
And, very often general use speakers, especially car speakers are “voiced”, meaning their not very linear, their tweaked for lack of better word to sound a certain way that is more familiar/pleasing to the causal listener, and to integrate into less than stellar acoustic environments, like cars, radios, TVs etc…i.e., the designer might cut or boost certain frequencies of the speaker, often to compensate for idiosyncrasies inherent in cheaper general use speakers.
Good speakers are usually more neutral or linear sounding. The goal being for the speaker to not have a “sound” but to reproduce the music as naturally as possible. To get out of the way of the music. It’s impossible to fully achieve this, but better speakers come much closer.

So between missing info of compressed music, a unique bass sound that has not been fully processed, or voiced, and voiced speakers that might have a frequency dip at a similar frequency dip or cut of the instrument, could add up to a big hole in the bass frequencies.
The opposite, would be a mode or resonate frequency of the bass, accentuated by a boosted speaker voicing, and possibly by the physics/space of the car or room. Even with my dedicated room and above average system I suffer from room modes around 100htz! . This would give a big unnatural, uneven loudness of certain frequency’s and/or it’s harmonics that would be much louder than all other frequencies. Unfortunately, this kind of uneven overly loud bass has become popular due to certain modern music formats…
I’d suggest phase issues, but that shouldn’t be a problem in a car, and you stated you’ve never experienced this phenomena before. So guessing perfect storm of above issues. That Irwin bass sounded different, but good live through speakers, direct to board often not so much…this again is often due to the mix being for the house, not a recording like a Betty…
That’s my guess Alvar, curious to see what you figure out!

Now if you’ll please excuse us, Spanky, Buckwheat and I need to go bail Darla out for solicitation again…

I gotta rewatch those to see what's up with that.

Spanky...lol

Hey GD85 fans...2/19/85

Glad yourz arrived, ThatMike. You'll love it.

We were getting worried.

Both highly inappropriate and highly entertaining.

I love those shows.

The He-man Woman Haters Club.

Don't drink the milk. It's spoiled.

Happy Birthday Mr. Hood.

"Isthmus by my lucky day."

Mr. Brown from the bank is calling on the phone for Grandma. Spanky answers. Mr. Brown asks, "Who is this?" Spanky says, "I don't know, I can't see you."

I won't posted the more inappropriate ones.