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  • #1261
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    Dave L. liner notes start out, "I have no idea what happened in the days between April 24th and May 5th, 1978 when the GD took a brief break between the two legs of their excellent spring tour, but when the band returned to the stage May 5th it was with a very different sound. I've always viewed April 24, 1978 as the end of the precision, high octane, perfection-every-night 1977 GD sound, and May 5 as the start of the looser, more playful 1978 sound. Whatever went on in the interregnum, the band's sound changed quite dramatically." Maybe found a good new source of Persian or pure Peruvian?
    Another really good tight show right out of the gate and a great 2nd set. Always liked LL>Supplication and seldom seen as a set opener. Plenty to love here including a Rhythm Devils. Good segue from the latest shows in DaP45.
    Turns out I don't have DaP 7 either. Sounds like Oro and I will be bidding against each other on eBay, LOL.
    Cheers

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    Really good show Bluecrow. Recording is great. The beginning of Jack Straw is cut, but we get most of it. Nice Sugaree, Stagger Lee, It's All over now, TMNS. Great first set. Second set starts with a solid Scarlet Fire. Yes, Bluecrow, the I Need a Miracle, He's Gone, Other One is a good ride. Short run out of drums, with Wharf Rat, Sugar Mag, OMSN.

    Definitely recommend a listen to this show and or repeat listens. Need to spend some more time with Dave's 42 and will check out March 3, 1971.

    Thanks all.

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    Good morning, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Fillmore West, March 3 1971 (Airwaves Benefit)

    Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company............

    March 1971----little known, little appreciated, lost between the heights of Port Chester and April. Here the Dead kick off the month with a hometown show that is probably never ever on anybody’s playlist………

    Admittedly, it’s a bit short, and sounds a bit ragged, but even “average” shows back in the day have something to recommend it. There is a decent amount of grease, including a slunky Hard To Handle, King Bee, and a rare Good Lovin’ encore. Plus some cowboy Bobby and a decent Truckin’/Other One.

    While perhaps not sonically the equal of some other early 71s, the 2020 Clugston remaster is very listenable, and worthy………….

    Repartee is something we think of twenty-four hours too late……

    Rock on!!

    Doc
    When I was younger I could remember anything, whether it happened or not……

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    Great show, glad you're on it. first posted about it maybe year and a half ago and have come back to it at least a couple times on my own. Miracle > He's Gone > Other One > drumz is off the hook. '78 on the brain, it's been known to happen. Glad to revisit.

    Was listening to 2/24/74 through Disc 2 yesterday/this morning. Just incredible sound and playing, same the night before. What a treat to have both of those shows released..

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    Hit this up yesterday. Interesting show. Unfortunately suffers occasionally from the usual primal idiosyncrasies, but otherwise a fine show. Really enjoyed the unusual? set lists and the flow between songs. Loved the LL split into beginning and end. Wonder if they did that elsewhere?

    Going with Greek 83 next couple daze. Maybe I’ll hit some 78 this WE. I don’t have 11/18 on my todo list but not home so can’t check Db, but it doesn’t sound familiar? I’ll follow up…

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    Hey Bluecrow, not sure if we ever listened to this show from the Uptown Theater in Chicago, 11/18/78?
    I have it going now, sounding good so far. I still have 78 on my brain.

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    Oh, my. My 1973 homework is…

    Oh, my. My 1973 homework is cut out for me. A(nother) very weak period for me.

    What can I listen to immediately?*

    I can cue up 2/28, 3/24 (Oh yeah, that's a good one! Looks like I snagged a Betty reel before the dark times)... Heart marks from He's Gone all the way through Sing Me Back Home. Another in the first set for Playin', and 5 stars for the Loser that precedes it. Nothing else is marked, but a first set Stella Blue? Sure!

    Getting into summer/fall, 7/28, 7/31, 8/1, 9/8, 9/17, or 12/4 and I actually have Dicks Picks Vol. 1, for a change. lol :-)
    Some of those I really haven't listened to much. Roosevelt Stadium seems to have had some mojo, but I think I only listened to Jerry's birthday show for the first time last year, and then probably only once.

    *Btw, my Internet was down for 24hrs yesterday. First there was electrical work being done on the building, so no power from 9 to 5! Then, they managed to screw up the phone lines and couldn't get it fixed until well after 9am this morning. So glad I don't depend on Spotify! lol... or streaming from the Archive ;-)

    I had a taste of that mind bending Playin > Wharf Rat > Playin' from 6/8/74 last Sunday, which must be somewhere in the ballpark of the 73 scene we're about to get into. I can't even remember when that had been Pick of the Day.

    Sorry, my listening notes are now way out of sequence as I'm trying to keep pace.

    In the meantime I have been thoroughly obsessed with the 2/22/69 Dreambowl. That was a fantastic pic.
    It's almost been on repeat. Someone needs to make a meme with the (apparently) famous guy on TV getting more and more blown away in each picture. Cool. early '69 show... An acoustic set! ...Mountains of the Moon, too... Mountains of the Moon sequeing into an interplanetary Darks Star... back to back with The Other One!!!!! Mind blown.

    Whole show is excellent. Many many thanks for the "liberating" experience, too.

    Also, RE QC at Deadville... I discovered last year that nugs net has 16b441 downloads of a ton of official albums, some not even available for download here. Shipping kills me, so even though I love physical media, I go for data. Anyway, even some of the downloads have had some dodgy editing or sonic anomalies. I gave nugs a FYI, but they said that's how the data comes and they aren't cleared to mess with it.

    I had the 11/30/80 Fox Theater 2nd set in my music player while I was out yesterday. Lovely, lovely Ship of Fools. Brilliant Playin' into drums into, not quite space, it almost sounds pre-composed, but I kept hearing these Uncle John's Band hints, then it ended up being The Wheel and for a while I thought I was losing my mind, but then they finally get to UJB to close the show. Although I was listening while mainly focussed on work, there were a few points were I wondered if someone ought to make a loud noise because it seemed as if the band was about to doze off. Super mellow mood, which has its merits. Not knockin' a laid back show.

    The real revalation, though, was the 2/19/71 recommendation, which I finally listened through last night.

    2/18 will always be like a favorite sweater or comfort food. However, I can see why you might say the19th is stronger. The 18th is definitely a bit tentative by comparison, what with all of the new songs and Mickey leaving the band, it would be. Although the first part of the 19th didn't really jump out at me, possibly, psychologically, I could have been a bit standoff-ish knowing this show was challenging one of the most nostalgic tapes from my meagre old collection. However, right away it struck me how different the feeling of the new tunes were even though they had only debuted the night before.

    By the time they hit China/Rider on the 19th, though, they seem full of confidence and it sounds like they have found their feet with the new/old lineup. This tune is grooving hard.

    The main thing that struck me about this show was how much it is a Pigpen showcase. Pig is always on it, but the band is rockin' hard behind him on every number from the gritty It Hurts Me Too, to Good Lovin', and beyond. This may be the heaviest Easy Wind I've ever heard. It may be the somewhat gnarly sound quality of the Vadnais transferred audience reel that really adds a welcome taste of foreboding evil to all of Pigs tunes. Probably it's the comparatively sparse arrangements that allow the listener to take a quick breath and really find themselves inside the song. I don't know. Caveat: I did tweak the EQ a bit, but the jury is still out about whether my adjustments improved the sound or not. lol.

    Anyway, just wanted to get out that note about how f'n heavy the Pig tunes are on 2/19. Really felt it.

    Thanks again, everyone!

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    it had been a long time since I'd spun 2/22/69 from 30 trips. everything you'd expect from a show from that time. really enjoyed it and will revisit fairly soon as is my want with shows that tickle my fancy. thanks Doc! on a side note, the one technical difficulty with that listen is that there is something about those discs that my external disc drive (LG M-Disc) really didn't care for. at one point it flat out quit reading Disc 1, something I've never had happen, and while it didn't quit during Disc 2, at several points towards the end it made noises that I've never heard from it before that seemed like the electronic equivalent of an old man wheezing up a hill who was barely going to make it (or maybe not!) this isn't disc rot, its something in how the discs were manufactured i'm guessing. from time to time I've had various weird issues with playability of discs from the GD folks that I've never experienced with any other CDs I've bought. it's very odd. And on the QC issue, I recently pulled out a disc from the Giants box to play it for the first time and there was a big splotch of an opaque light gray liquid on the playing surface, sorta looked like white out except for the gray color. i have never seen anything like it CD-wise and i haven't the faintest idea what the hell it could be or how it could have gotten there. I have a CS request in with Dr. Rhino -we'll see what happens.

    DV - 4/24/78 (DaP 7) was a show that had never really resonated with me - not when it was first issued, and not on subsequent revisits. And I've really gotten into the other released shows from that tour, Nashville and William and Mary. Well, finally got my head properly calibrated and my ears on straight and had an excellent listen. And then I spun it again. Full speed ahead Spring '78 Jerry and the Wolf with that excellent Betty sound. Thank you for suggesting that one.

    Now on maybe my third run through past few days of 2/23/74 (DaP 42). It sounds freaking fantastic! All of it! Blowing my mind! Nothing left to do but smile smile smile!! (Yeah I'm really digging it.) Still haven't cued up the next night, cause I keep getting distracted by all the other good stuff. Maybe tomorrow.

    Gonna have to visit those shows from late February, that one from Austin and Doc's most recent POTD from the Family Dog.

    Take care folks. And great to hear from you Rocktihng!. Rock on!!

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    I’ve enjoyed them all so far DV, but maybe it’s me, some seem to sorta plod for a awhile before they pick up steam in the second set. Recordings were inconsistent too…but?…maybe it was me, as Jim just said so we’ll, sometimes set and setting can have as much influence as the music itself! I actually got to sit a relax and listen to most, a couple I had on while doing household stuff, but I don’t think thats it?
    I’ve always been a huge fan of fall/winter 73, one of my personal top tours, and I purposefully haven’t dug into summer 73 too much as you’d think we’d get some of those sooner than later, but until I got the spring 73 Dave’s, I knew nothing about that tour. 21 With 21, I was a tad nonplused at first, probably just hung up on no Dark Star or other head noise nonsense, but it’s grown on me a lot since. That whole jam sequence is superb, and I’ll take a HCSS anytime!
    16 is one of my favorite Dave’s, so much so I purchased a copy off the black market! 32s good, actually need to listen to that as I’m not as familiar as I should be. I haven’t gotten to Crotchfester or Bu faf a lo yet…
    Every show has a nice big jam sequence, many killer 73 Eyes, a couple ridiculous PITB, some good HCSS, and the Dark Stars and accompanying jams etc, so worth it even just to check those out. Sorry to be so vague but it’s all kinda a blur. As I say, all very similar: relaxed with mostly good playing, until the big jam goes through the roof, rinse and repeat…lol.
    So far, I think the February shows are a bit more to my liking?

    Spring 78: of the dozen and a half or so on this tour, I think I’ve hit 10 so far. Some of the Beatty’s are spectacular and this tour took me by surprise. Getting the big blown away surprise of 4/15 (DaP 37) opened up that flood gate as the only official release I have is 37. I had no clue about this tour before, so yeah, big surprise!
    Hoping Realgone spits out Dicks 18 and that I can get disc copies of the other 2 Dave’s as long/short I don’t do files…actually might try to get 15 off the black market as sometimes those aren’t too outrageously expensive. Didn’t get subs until 21, but since I have a few others, thinking someday I’ll try to get real copies of the few missing so I’ll have 13 onward, with hopefully copies of the rest. I have at least copies of all but 5.
    I still think, partly due to the fine Beatty’s that there’s a potential for a spring 78 box, but maybe not enough interest for that?
    Awright, gotta head to the mine, staycation is over for now : (

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    Hello, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Family Dog At The Great Highway, February 28, 1970

    As a matter of self-preservation, a man needs good friends or ardent enemies, for the former instruct him and the latter take him to task……

    In November, we were teased with the Little Sadie and Black Peter, so we know that an excellent recording is in the vault. As far as early 1970 goes, the “big guns” of the Fillmores get most of the love, respect, and recognition, but this Family Dog run has some doggone good music!

    Call it a Lovelight sandwich, a grateful buffet with something for almost everybody. Electric/acoustic, grease, jams, old and new, all laid out as if on a platter. Dig in and enjoy!!!

    Those who have virtue always in their mouths, and neglect it in practice, are like a harp, which emits a sound pleasing to others, while itself is insensible of the music…..

    Rock on!

    Doc
    Most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad…..

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by MDJim on Mon, 11/20/2023 - 12:35

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Most of us took out second mortgages on our homes when 30 Trips was released.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/20/2023 - 12:37

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JimInMD is no longer in Time Out.

I can post again. Two, make that three, multi-syllable words. For what it's worth, it's probable some outside firm or contractor did the web site modifications. If so, I bet they were performed exactly as agreed upon and everything was signed off in advance. If so, it cost them money to do it and it will cost them more money to undo or modify it. Poor planning is no way to go through life.

They are playing Nov 1 1979 Pittsburgh on Sat Radio. That one's a keeper

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Submitted by bluecrow on Mon, 11/20/2023 - 17:36

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Sweet sounding chunk of this show in this week's tapers. nice alternative to the hay now blues. check it out if you haven't already.

acoustic - Monkey & The Engineer, Little Sadie > Black Peter
electric - China Cat > I Know You Rider > High Time > Dire Wolf

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Submitted by uncle_tripel on Tue, 11/21/2023 - 05:33

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Haven't used this word since the early 2000’s ...clunky
absolutely downright clunky

...Well they're putting up resistance but I know that my faith will lead me on.

Peace All:)
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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 11/21/2023 - 10:08

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Taper's is good 'ol GD this week.
All 3 are great.
Poor little Sadie. What did she ever do to deserve her fate?
Cheers

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Submitted by marye on Tue, 11/21/2023 - 10:28

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I am passing these reports up the line and am really sorry for the difficulties.

Thanks MaryE.

Anymore of this and I will never be able to listen to Iko Iko again. As it is now, the intro riff brings on my own version of PTSD.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 11/23/2023 - 07:29

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For all you deadheads and pecan pie.
Cheers

Have an enjoyable one today.

Just read an interesting article about Phil's new project is it called Darkstarathon, I think. The opening tag line is Hey Now, welcome to the Darkstarathon!

For keeping it real and being antidote to what sometimes feels like "corporate" responses and hoops. Not fully gotten over the condition of the discs delivered in my HCS box though since they all played, am thankful for that, getting the music if not the condition paid for. Having half of them arrive with minor scratches and bits of glue stuck to several edges from mindless, careless packaging, have we sent the message clearly enough? I debated asking for replacements, still feel less than satisfied with the response or lack thereof. Have only had one other problem disc in nearly twenty years of DPs, DaPs and box sets.

Actually listening to Kezar this morning from the box. Damn, is it good. Jerry's guitar is so crisp and the overall sound quality still amazes me for this show.

Yes, the manufacturing issues are a bummer. No excuse for that.

Edit. And my post went through on the first attempt!

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Submitted by Obeah on Fri, 11/24/2023 - 10:05

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Not sure if this is the best forum for this...

...but can anyone help fill me in, or direct me to info, about Record Store Day and how/when dead dot net gets involved? I am asking because the estimable Alvarhanso steered me to 11/18/72. Apparently that was an RSD release in 2014 (or a Black Friday RSD release? That's part of why I need help here) and I've seen blog posts saying it was available for sale "at the Dead's official website". Just wondering if that was true, and if I should pay more attention. I managed to pick up a copy (CD not LP) for sixty bucks but I want to avoid sleeping on this kind of thing in the future. Thanks for any tips

Also I want to give a shout to Marye for always keeping this place going. Happy Belated Thanksgiving, neighbor! And the same to all of you good folks here. Cheers everyone

what little I know... others please fill in and correct me. Believe RSD releases vinyl arranged with WMG/Rhino, not ever sold on dead.net. The second set of 11/18/72 was available briefly as a single CD from dead.net years ago, not long after or around the time it came out on vinyl for RSD 2014. It rocks. The first set has never seen daylight on the archive, far as I know, major audio issues. Strongly suggest check out the next night, 11/19, full glory in the archive, a Charlie Miller soundboard AND an excellent Dark Star.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 11/25/2023 - 07:06

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I think you have that exactly correct. Man, I wish they both had all the reels from that Texas run and released it as a mini box. That PITB is an all timer. I can find PITB's I love in almost any era, and I have an affinity for the 73 and 74 spacey monsters, but nothing beats an on fire 1972 Playin' in the Band and that one from Holfheinz Pavilion is real and it's spectacular.

Fingers crossed this gets through

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 11/25/2023 - 10:02

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Hope everybody had a happy, fun, and delicious Turkey Day, and a long weekend to kick back.

Lucky to have snagged a copy of the 11/18/72 CD back in the day. It's a beauty. Spinning it now. Dig the artwork, one of my favorites in the Dead archival release genre. Minor technical note. Hofheinz Pavilion is at Univ. of Houston, not TCU which is Ft. Worth. 11/14/71 at TCU was the bonus disc for the Austin road trips. Hopefully 11/19/72 sees the light of day as a formal release.

final edit - I literally had to build this post up sentence by edited sentence after getting DQ'd my first couple go arounds.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Sat, 11/25/2023 - 11:37

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Right you are... not sure how I came up with TCU and looking at the CD case, it reads Houston, Texas, no mention of Hofheinz Pavilion, though that's the venue. A Bear original recording, mastered by Jeffrey Norman, the disc is marked HDCD but I see no mention of plangent process. Not much information, no booklet in the sleeve cover and the artwork is outstanding indeed.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 11/25/2023 - 12:26

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Decided it was time to revisit that that 11/14/71 TCU disc. NP.

DMCVT - the missing(?) booklet from the 11/18/72 CD release is sort of a puzzle. Can't say for sure but guessing there were liner notes for the LP release (can anyone here confirm?) and that somewhere along the line the corresponding booklet for the CD never materialized and there was a collective shrug by the involved folks. The CD sleeve was certainly designed for one. I'd forgotten about the "missing" booklet until I went to spin it today.

Went Deep Tracks (at least for the BC collection) a couple of days ago with the late November gray and cold rain and listened to Garcia Live Vol. 1 - 03/01/1980 - really hit the spot. And yes, there is a fine Mission in the Rain. Keyboards a bit weird but it was what it was for the era. Jerry's playing is fire.

I have a soft spot for that one. What a great, well written song.

Side trip - Billy and the Kids came up on my BluesTube suggestion list and I just hit it. James Casey just rips it.. I was recently wooed to this guy and just like that he is gone. What a talent and what a loss.

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 11/27/2023 - 07:17

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I felt inspired to play this album again, after reading the messages on here. A great album, plenty of upfront Phil in the sound, which is always appreciated.

Bluecrow - there are sleeve notes with the record that aren't included in the cd. An essay by Dave Lemieux from July 2014, in which he suggest that November may be the peak of the peak for 1972. Along with the European tour, Veneta, September and October. Not New Year's Eve, too?

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Submitted by bluecrow on Mon, 11/27/2023 - 12:55

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Thanks DaveRock for confirming that there are sleeve notes for the 11/18/72 LP release. Hopefully someday I'll get to read them. And I too really dig how prominent Phil is in the mix.

Jim - Mission in the Rain was a song that took me awhile to come around to. A great song. Went deep cuts in the BC vault again yesterday while working on home improvement project and listened to Pure Jerry Warner Theatre March 18 1978. That late show is stunningly beautiful!! Very emotional. Every song is fantastic. My favorite Mission in the Rain and really pretty much favorite versions for all those songs. And the recording is an absolute gem of a Betty Board. A must own in my opinion.

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Submitted by uncle_tripel on Mon, 11/27/2023 - 13:57

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streamed that 1972-11-18
PITB!!
thru headphones
yesterday

Peace All,
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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 11/28/2023 - 03:13

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That was the quite the journey, how this song evolved during 1972. I can't think of any other song that started out so humbly and ended up so expansive within a 12 month period.

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Okay, this one is for all you 1980 fans. 12/13/1980 Long Beach CA. Courtesy of the good folks at 30 Days. Maybe Billy was at this show? Edit. Wait, that is too far south isn't it.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Wed, 11/29/2023 - 09:23

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Great show! That L > S > D finish to Set I featured in 30 days definitely caught my ear and I followed by going to the Scarlet > Fire to open Set II. Glad you suggested this show cause I intended to listen to the whole thing but it had already been swept on by in the general flow of things. Just 2 weeks after that great little run late Nov. that gave us DaP 8 in Atanta and of course Gainesville. Hadn't realized until going back that Airto Moreira and Flora Purim joined in on drumz > space (their first time, and they're also there the next night.) And there's a To Lay Me Down Set I. Good stuff!!

Bookmarking something completely different: 11/28/73 - Palace of Fine Arts, SF, CA - Jerry, Mickey, Ned Lagin, Phil. Some serious early live Seastone weirdness that in a way sounds much more like a precursor of Space than Seastones ca. 1974. I saw a photo of a fairly well-known poster for this show and a light bulb went on - wait, Jerry and Mickey? in 1973? what in the heck is this?

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Wed, 11/29/2023 - 09:43

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I picked the wrong one on 30 Days instead of the next Sailor>Saint>Deal on 12-13-80 but went back to catch the set opening Scarlet>Fire at someone's suggestion on 30 Days. A good era for sure. Will have to join in the fun today and maybe add Gainsville which I've never heard but certainly have heard of.
Cheers

I started listening to this on my phone at work. Finished it at home on the wired system. Sounded better on my phone.
Good solid post RCMH 1980 show. Yes, that To Lay Me Down is moving BC. My first exposure to this song was from Reckoning. I think I actually had and still have the LP which was titled For the Faithful. Of course I don't have a player now. Great version here, to tell sweet lies one more time!
Great Sailor Saint Deal to end the first set.
Scarlet Fire delivers, nice Playing. Great show.

Edit. The rest of the post got the Big Hey Now!!!!

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Submitted by uncle_tripel on Fri, 12/01/2023 - 06:24

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...concur with DAVEROCK and his PITB assessment. I decided to stream pitb with headphones from 8 live performances during a 17 month period, and not go beyond the aforementioned 11/18/72: Hofheinz or include 8/27/72: Veneta (which I won’t get into at this time).

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Fri, 12/01/2023 - 06:45

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In memory of Doc's 1st show:
Dec. 1, 1973 Boston Music Hall.
It has a WRS.
Cheers
By the way how do we find out who won the grand prize of 30 Days? Only the download list up today.

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Submitted by uncle_tripel on Fri, 12/01/2023 - 06:52

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or will WMG's poorly written code end my discussion

edit this is obviously pathetic contract work

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Submitted by uncle_tripel on Fri, 12/01/2023 - 07:00

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April 17 1971 Princeton
November 20 1971 UCLA
March 21 1972 Academy of Music
May 16 1972 Luxembourg
August 21 1972 BCT
September 17 1972 Baltimore
September 21 1972 Philadelphia

why did I venture into this exercise, well, because I stumbled upon Miles Davis Quintet “The Complete Live at the Plugged Nickel 1965 on wiki. Intrigued, I went directly to “Background”, and reading the comments therein how the band members were becoming restless and dissatisfied, and that it had become easy to play together. Interesting I thought, and how’s about that evolution of pitb. To be clear, in no way am I insinuating that the GD were becoming restless and dissatisfied. Also, it helps answer the question surrounding always pushing the envelope, and confirms my magnetic attraction to late ’72, ’73, and early ’74. I’m going to revisit this exercise with a random dozen shows from my electrically charged era in the near future... and 8/21 is my fav out of the 8, based upon overall mix, vocals, fantastic jamming.

I can tell your future, look what’s in your hand

Peace All!
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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 12/01/2023 - 10:42

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Uncle- it's a great song to listen to, outside the context of the shows in which it was performed during the timespan you mention. I don't know that the band were particularly dissatisfied during 1971, but Keith's joining did signal a left turn into previously unchartered territory. There is no evidence, that I have heard, that suggests Playing would have become a jamming vehicle until he joined.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 12/01/2023 - 15:44

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I love this three show run at Boston Music Hall Firstshow. Will que up 12/1/73 tomorrow. And then maybe revisit Dicks 14.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Fri, 12/01/2023 - 20:56

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He got his money's worth! The incredible China Rider transistion, smokin Big River, Brokedown, and we're just getting warmed up. Jerry's slide playing inspired in this show, WRS, Row Jimmy. Second set jam transitions all just smooth as silk.
Amazing show.
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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Sat, 12/02/2023 - 04:58

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Mornin', rockers!!!

Here at work, gearing up to deal with multiple gunshot homicide, last day before vacation..........

Boston Music Hall 12/2/1971. Very odd & interesting show. No Truckin', Other One, or Dark Star. Only 1971 show with both Smokestack and Lovelight---both solid versions. Black Peter and a Brokedown. Plus lots of other gooey Grateful Dead goodness!

Lots of high quality copies are out there. Always worth a listen!!

Music is the best means we have of digesting time......

Off to morgue..................where there is never any Grateful Dead played.........

Rock on,

Doc
Music, when soft voices die
Vibrates in the memory.......

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 12/04/2023 - 14:17

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Been awfully slow here lately.

Driving home today from a quick errand and the Porsche Cayenne in front of me on the exit ramp had a personalized license plate that Said Hey Now! With some sort of Dead symbol between the Hey and the Now. You can't make it up. I thought about trying to communicate with the driver but then realized he might think I was a stalker.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Tue, 12/05/2023 - 03:35

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Yes, rockers, once again it is the anniversary of one of the greatest, weirdest, most bootlegged, and most interesting Grateful Dead shows of 1971----Felt Forum, December 5 1971.

The whole story is too long to tell here, but enlighten yourself with a listen, there are some very good copies of the matrix-like FM broadcast out there. It has pretty much everything you'd expect of a Dead show at that time.

Yet even after all these years, questions remain.................

1) I Wash My Hands In Muddy Water. This very country tune was pretty popular around 64-66, and Elvis himself put out a version in early 1971. How did it come to Garcia's attention and why was it only a one-off? Truthfully, the Dead's version sounds well rehearsed and is a neat little gem.

2) The vocal-less, so called "silent Dark Star". No words! What prompted that? However it came about, it's cool............

3) Every show in December was recorded, several have been released. Where is the pure soundboard copy of this show? Has it finally been returned to the band? One can only hope.................

4) Who was Uncle Sal???

The idea of music is to liberate the listener and lead him to a frame where he feels he is elevated.......

Rock on,

Doc
Music is the expression of the movement of the waters, the play of curves described by changing breezes.......

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Submitted by uncle_tripel on Tue, 12/05/2023 - 09:26

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Due to increasingly restrictive privacy regulations and the desire to keep your data safe and secure. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you kindly for your understanding. This is my frustration; as it totally has a mind of its own to when where how or why; so you know, no soup for me! and possibly others too, oh yes this was written in six edits

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Submitted by Obeah on Tue, 12/05/2023 - 16:39

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Doc how'd it go with that one? Forensic pathology seems not only useful to society at large but also a very thought-provoking way to spend one's time.

Now then...
>The whole story is too long to tell here
...if you want to tell more, I have ears to... well, I have eyes to read

bc 12/5/71 never gets old for me. I think the recording is a factor - I often wonder, if this one came out on Dave's Vol 22, would it have the same almost tangible electricity? Is there something about the mind filling in the gaps a bit, and positing improvements - that perhaps, things could be even more intense if only the signal to noise ratio was improved in our favour; if the room's reverb were lessened; if some Plangent sauce was applied? Sometimes I think I shade 12/5 with the tint of yesterday, because I heard it so many times before I ever heard 12/6 or 7. I've probably listened to 12/5 at least a dozen times since Dave's 22 came out, yet in the same span I've probably played Vol 22 three times through at most. I'd put that down to habit and familiarity. I had planned to listen to 12/5 tonight but maybe I should grab that Dave's and give it another really good listen instead...

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Wed, 12/06/2023 - 03:23

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OBEAH---

Death is not extinguishing the light; it is only putting out the lamp because the dawn has come.......

Multiple gunshot cases are the most challenging, akin to an autopsy marathon. You can't start out sprinting, instead, start out easy and finish strong. Takes planning, determination, and perseverance. Easy to find the injuries, sometimes much harder to find the "evidence"----bullets and fragments. You never want to bury lead................

Of all the gods only death does not desire gifts.........

Doc
Look for me in the nurseries of Heaven.......

Ah yes, one should not bury the lede. Neither the lead. Thanks for those observations, doc... gave me a lot to mull over this morning. A marathon... yes.

I ended taking my own advice (er... suggestion) and putting on 12/6/71 last night. I had some observations typed up but now I can't recall if I actually posted them... I was interrupted by my good wife during Wharf Rat, which seemed a reasonable time to look up from my brown study. I had been absolutely entranced starting with PITB, short but getting longer as '71 progressed. And that Other One... my word... just excellent. In my observations I remember thinking how impressed I was with Keith, and how accomplished he was just a mere few weeks into playing live with these guys... leaving space, a lot of space, but when coming in, his feel and expression on the keys was never tentative but consistently assured. No wonder Phil makes that comment (at the Academy of Music a few months later? I forget) about "our new keyboardist... well, actually, he's our old keyboardist; we just didn't know it yet"

Been listening to that glorious MSG Box again lately. Haven't listened to 10/11/83 more than once so need to get that show rolling again.

Stay well out there.