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  • fourwindsblow
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    Drum mic's

    Among others they would have a mic over each drummer either hanging or on stands four feet above each drum kit since sound rises from the drums, cymbals.

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    4 11 78

    Finished 10 8 89 and 4 14 78 earlier today

    Scarlet Fire

    GBtGD

  • Oroborous
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    4/12/78

    Hmmmm?
    Another quirky good but inconsistent show?
    Definitely a creeper. Starts a bit off (technically and otherwise) but by mid set they start settling in and syncing up. Second set, like much of this tour may not be flawless, but their is some fine playing and highlights!. And I’ll have to find that video cause wondering WTH was up with JG at the end etc? Wow?
    These shows are hard to pin down, interesting run.
    14 mañana…

  • Oroborous
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    True dat

    Absolutely no noise reduction ON THE RECORDING, but that doesn’t mean some kind of processing on the final release, and, it seemed like 4/12 sounded much different, especially in the frequency spectrum we’ve been discussing.
    There are other ways in mastering to treat noise beyond basic noise reduction, like, not your 80s tape deck Dolby…
    I’ve been looking at pics and some don’t seem to have overhead drum mics where others certainly do. But haven’t dug deep so don’t know dates that correspond to pics etc. Just wonder if that was something Betty was messing with as she’s known for her mic placement perhaps above all else…
    Also noticed JG moved into the center, and Bob to the left, (as per their stage orientation at the time) of the soundstage on maybe the 10th? Before that they were switched, and the 12 all kinds of things going on lol,
    Always fun to try and dissect things!

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    Noise redution?

    No where in the notes does it state any noise reduction was used in the reel recording of any of the shows in the box.

    Will be doing the 15th tomorrow!

    Going to have to listen to the 11th again as I thought they were a little out of sync...

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    4/12/78

    Previously, Only heard this one once, thought it was good but overshadowed by the 11, 15 and 16th…let’s see after proper sit down if it matches the hype…

    Think 4/11 was tops so far, but 4/6 seemed to stand out too. These shows are sneaky good. Meaning sometimes you have to wait for it. The dynamics are often impressive. Not freight train Dead like you might expect from this period, but often nice subtle build ups/peaks. You can tell their having fun, getting loose and digging the smaller venues.
    Really tasty when their all in sync etc, (sometimes the looseness is a tad much) and 4/11 is a good example of being synced up!
    And DG has been improving nicely as the tour has progressed and has some real moments here.
    That Sunrise is one of the most powerful I’ve heard, and some songs she’s carrying the lead vocals. Meaning on shared vocals, she is often the strongest most consistent, which allows J &B more latitude.
    And the sound is great on all so far, but I too will compare with 37, which I recall is the benchmark of this tour…

    I do understand 4winds “cymbal” comments. Don’t have torrents to compare, but they aren’t prevalently splashing all over so ?…
    It doesn’t seem like an issue to me, and probably wouldn’t notice it if I wasn’t trying to…guessing mastering, probably added some shimmer to the torrents versus some noise reduction, tape restoration, age etc, or, perhaps artifacts from different machines used to record copies from the masters, versus Bettys reel decks and masters…

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    4/14 set 2

    here we go! set 1 was okay! I like where set 2 is going...

    Samson oh yeah!! Lions Den for sure!! Growls...

    Music swinging!!

    The Natives are restless!

    That was fun!

    Love them while you can, for someday they'll be gone.

  • proudfoot
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    4 11 78

    When i first heard it back in later 80s I was amazed at the post drumz sequence. I didnt know they had done it.

    Nowadays its like "cool"
    Back then it was like "wow!"

    At the moment
    4 14 78 looks Like Rain (never one of my favorites)

    Due to holiday no need to go to work so plenny o' GD

    Yay!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    4-14-78

    I’m going in order and will do 4-15 next to see (hear) how it compares to the Box.

    I like 4-10 and 11 a lot, but they’re also burned into my synapses from having them on cassette and then CD-R.

  • proudfoot
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    this series of shows

    nothing has really caught fire for me (I am jumping around in the sequence)

    however

    4/14/78 before work today sounded hot.

    also:

    in the car I am listening to 10/8/89

    good stuff
    really good stuff

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Hey y’all
I have a cassette of a show that doesn’t have a date on it. Brent is singing, so it’s in the ‘80s and the crowd cheered loudly when Memphis was mentioned…maybe held in Memphis, TN??? Can anyone help me ID the show for my collection? Set list is below:
Set 1
Touch of Grey
Walkin Blues
Candy man
Queen Jane Approximately
Loser
It’s All over Now
Far From Me
Cassidy
Don’t Ease Me In

Set 2
Feel Like a Stranger
Franklin’s Tower
Box of Rain

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Looks like you might have 3-24-88 The Omni set I, with some of 3-28-88 Hampton set I as filler. I just cracked open my trusty DeadBase to check. It's a fun game, guess the show... :-)

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The compilation matches the style of the taper I got them from-he tended to combine shows!! Thank you so much!!! It’s a fun game! Do you know anything about the Terrapin from the Omni Show? I love a good terrapin!

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Have you ever heard of the site called heady version (all one word)? It's a deadhead generated ranking of all the Grateful Dead's catalogue. According to the site, it lists the top 3 versions as: 2-26-77, 5-17-77 and 1-22-78.

-edit- Looks like Terrapin from 10-22-83 gets some high ratings from the 80's.

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I was listening to the sound of the ribs sizzling on the grill....

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CD by Martin Taylor and David Grisman's Acoustic Jazz Quartet, called "I'm Beginning to See the Light.," 1999.

Taylor and Grisman go at a bunch of true standards (Autumn Leaves, Cheek to Cheek, Lover Man, Willow Weep for Me, Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered...etc.) It is good because it does focus Grisman a little, like Garcia used to do, and bring David down from his free form "Dawg" jamming. It's nice, like at a Dead concert, when the riffing resolves into a recognizable song and melody. On the other hand, maybe you can say that Grisman is excessively disciplined and sticks too closely to the melody here rather than riffing and improvising as much as many jazz players do - could have been a happy medium with his Dawg somehow - maybe he felt a little more free to do that in his collaborations with Jerry. But this is good. Great music for dinner or reading and you raise your head every once in awhile at a nice riff or return to well known swing melodies. And danceable if you know your Lindy. That's probably what was intended. Jerry would have appreciated it, I think - Jerry himself in his last interviews said he was going to see Steffan Grappelli doing this sort of riffing on standards before both of them unfortunately passed on. And of course Jerry was named after Jerome Kern, or so I heard once upon a time, so these standard would be right up his alley.

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Don’t miss this title from bassist Cleveland Eaton from 1974: Cleveland Eaton, Plenty Good Eaton.
This record refuses to get off my turntable deck.
Sorely underappreciated…

Shwack in NH

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I'm listening to Roy Kim's "Only If" right now and it makes me sleepy coz it's a ballad song.

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Haiduk - Morph [blackened death metal]

youtube.com/watch?v=uNQ1-hyWLxo

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Listening to Mason's Children and New Speedway Boogie, 2 Dead songs which were largely overlooked by both band and fans for quite a while.

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any recommendation? what are people wanting to snag? im looking at.....

-muddy waters woodstock album
-sun ra
-howlin' wolf
-alex chilton
-ABB

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I'm off to get...

Gong Live in Lyon 1972 as a certainty. Mind your head!
Charlie Parker as a maybe.

Can't think what else I saw - those are the ones I remember when I had a look last night.

Well, I'm not off anywhere - I'll be poking around online.

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Currently listening to and learning Deep Elem Blues ... i noticed there are 2 dominant versions, live at harpur College version, which is a slowed down real bluesy version, and then the more classic and common "bluegrass" version as heard in the acoustic and JGB shows...

wondering if anyone knows what these two styles are called in the dead/music world, as I'm trying to learn the Harpur College version and having trouble searching for lessons on that specifically that version ("real bluesy version" and "harpur college version" isn't working in the searches)

Much love!

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i am listening to the Doors break on Through Center Coliseum, Seattl 1970

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This is one of those shows where we're so very lucky to have the tape that we have. Mike Tannenbaum's recording gear was supposedly concealed inside a wheelchair. Once your ear gets used to the recording quality, though, this show has some ferocious passages that are absolutely worth hearing. I come back to the Cryptical->Other One->Cryptical->Sugar Mag time and time again. Garcia is just a demon dancing across Other One. And the Sugar Mag... a song that would go on to be played hundreds of times, but here has barely been done a dozen... Garcia's solo is effortlessly rockin' right out of the gate, just so assured. And beautiful harmonies from the boys.

figured I'd post here since someone had revived this thread

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The new Matrix 1967 release is a good one.

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A great box set of David Bowie's demo and live recordings from 1971, leading up to the release of Hunky Dory. It's surprising how tentative he seemed performing live at this time. Come the beginning of 1972, an inspired make over and change of outlook - hey presto - Ziggy played guitar. This box set is really good, charting the path from nowhere's ville to the stars.

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1981 european tour munich west germany.
my first crispy maxwell xl2 found at street fair in greenwich village new york.
best ever opening jack straw….perfect

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This has to be the most random bit of folk/singer-songwriter material I have ever stumbled into. The artist is someone I'd never heard of: F.J. McMahon.

McMahon's album, "Spirit of the Golden Juice", had a limited pressing in 1969 and McMahon tried touring to support it, even eventually doing the tourist circuit in Hawaii, but the album got no play. He finally found himself uninspired by playing covers, so he joined the navy and soon forgot all about playing music for a living. (I tried to say more but it was at this point that I got hey now'd)

(trying to edit my post) try the song 'Early Blue' if you just want to see what the fuss is about

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the Cleveland 12/4/73 show ( I was tryna say more but something kept getting me hey now'd) <sigh>

Wow, what got into Phil Lesh that night!? Somewhere I read that he was ticked off with the promoters and that's part of the reason set II is short. I wonder if Phil was trying to bring the ceiling down on those miscreants. Whatever his motivations were, it's just marvelous the things he does with his bass. He just takes over on Eyes and drives things into one ferociously weird bit of feedback. And that Stella Blue, too...he's playing behind Garcia instead of being way out in front, and yet Phil just goes thundering along. Intense. I've spent the last 90 minutes just grooving to Phil and replaying those two songs. Good stuff!!

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Fillmore East 12/31/69 - 1/2/70. The photo in the book of this box, of the Fillmore East advertises The Dead's shows for 1/2-3/70. Which isn't a bad idea for the New Year.

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JGB 12/31/75
Dead 12/31/76
Dead 12/31/78

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Allman Brothers 12-31-73

This one should be cleaned up and released.

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They were ripping it up and loving it in their first visit to Red Rocks.
Rumor has it that rocks were jostled loose from the walls by Phil's bombs, but that may have been some illegal climbing up there.
Cheers

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9/16/90

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5/26/77
Love me some '77 "Sugaree".

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From the wonderful HCSS Box

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11/30/73

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7/17/76
Amazing "Comes A Time"

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I'm thinking of getting a cat. I'm not - but I keep getting hey now'd when I mention The Dead.

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Tried but got the hey now.

Downhill From Here last night. Meh.

Cheers

Jan. 8 doing DiP20 because I woke up hearing Cosmic Charlie in my head.

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Fall '77 from a bit of everywhere.
Just finished 5-21-77 from DiP 29.
Cheers

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yup 1981-05-02

Peace All!

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of healy, latvala, norman, cutler for Nassau 1981-05-06, it is
hard for me to grasp that this 13th version of dick's picks has been in my GD treasure chest for 25 years!
Rock On Today and EVERYDAY!

Peace All!

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TODAY with a listen to 1981-12-09 [daP 20] CU Events Center in Boulder, CO; it's been five weeks of some very COOL music from 1981 and "tripping the light fantastic", wow:) and THANK YOU for a real good time!

Peace All!
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Starlight Theater
Kansas City, MO
An excellent Chris Chappell matrix over at the archive.
This is one smoking show!

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Bonus songs on “Don’t Look Back” Blu-ray

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1974-02-22 (bonus 2022 disc) crank up the HEAT and bring it on china>rider & ujb!
everyone enjoy your saturday
Peace All!
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Due to hey nows. It's mentioning 1974 that seems to be the problem.