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    7/25/74 tape story

    Obeah - here's an edited/slightly reworked version of what I posted on another forum years ago. I'd go for the GEMS SBD remaster (152924). Not as jammed out as some '74 but there is some really and truly, very fine, music here (sound of Oro's foot tapping.) The Dark Star jam is unlike any out there and I really really dig it.

    Ca. 1997/98 – I was living in a small desert town. First worked here summer of ’95 and it was here that I first learned of Jerry’s passing (and still here 25+ years later). Jim, a long time resident (moved away years ago) and fellow Deadhead (saw Vegas Ice Palace ’69 I think) mentioned that a friend had come through town and left a list of tapes he had to trade/share. The friend was a river runner out of Flagstaff, would be back through town in a week or so. Jim invited me to take a look at the list and see if there was anything I wanted. It was a short list – all that I remember at this point is that it had the International Amphitheatre show, 7/25/74, complete show, an audience rated at C-. The show was unknown to me and, as a favorite year and a Chicago boy at heart (born and raised north suburbs), I asked for that one.

    One night a little while later the river runner friend came back through town. I remember standing outside in the summer dark talking to him for maybe 10-20 minutes, he only stopped to drop off tapes. It turned out that he had taped the show himself and it was the only show he ever taped. A cheap deck with the microphones hanging over the balcony railing (IIRC). He had talked to Phil outside the back door before the show and Phil had big time dosed him. Said that Phil sat on a stool for part of the show. He got all wide-eyed with nostalgic awe when he recalled the Ship of Fools encore – clearly the song had been a major religious experience. I think he handed me his masters to make a copy (or maybe he just dropped off a copy?), saying he would pick them up from our mutual friend on the way back through town. Don’t recall his name and never saw him again.

    Listening to the tapes you felt like you were way in the back of a cavernous space. To me, C- was possibly a generous grade, but with a pair of cheap headphones (all my gear was cheap at the time) - listening in the dark in the middle of the high desert night - you could be there, and for a poor boy in the backwoods of tapes it was a cool listen. I dubbed a couple of copies and sent one to Jeff, a close friend, who was back in the Chicago area – at the time he was managing Dr. Wax (a chain of several used record/CD stores/Jeff also founded and ran a niche record label Quinnah Records) A little while later Jeff calls me, all excited. “Where did you get this?? This is the only known recording of this show currently in circulation!!!” Circulation was a relative term in this case. Turns out Jeff had reached out/was in contact with the gentlemen who were putting together the first Tapers Compendium and, connected as they were, they knew of no other recordings of this show. The Compendium folks wanted him to review the tapes/show for the Compendium, but in the end it was too late because the book had just gone into galley(?) and it was too much trouble to revise it. This is the only ’74 show not reviewed/completely missing from the first edition Tapers Compendium Vol I.

    A bunch of high-end traders contacted Jeff requesting copies. When Jeff asked one what his opinion of the tapes were, the gentleman replied that it was pretty rough and that basically it was for completists only, but of course it had a heretofore uncirculated Dark Star with a Slipknot tease, which was everything you needed to know right there. This may have been at the time the only uncirculated Dark Star post-1970. Another commented that he thought he knew the person who might have the soundboard reels (or copies of them) but that they were holding them close. The SBD recording finally entered public circulation a few years later and Dave Lemieux (I raise a toast, or two or three, or more, in his honor) has featured portions of this show a time or three, I think, in the Jam of the Week and/or the Tapers Section/and 30 days of the Dead. So the masters are in the vault. The audience has never been uploaded to the archive.

    It makes me smile that this show first resurfaced from the depths of time (relatively speaking) in this dusty, high desert, town.

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    1972 was some great concerts in some out-of-the way places

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    Rise and shine lil Pedro
    Bfast in bed wiff the GD

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    Passed in Tacoma at 81

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    Disc 4 of "Unlabled 1968 GD"

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    The SS is a very early version

    Edit
    Theres info about this on e t r e e

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    ...a small bit of squawking or is it squonking...someone recently mentioned Ornette Coleman with the Boys in 1993...anyway PHILA 1973 SEPT 21 Set 2 should fill the jones with guests Martin Fiero & Joe Ellis

    Peace for All!
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    Lyceum Theatre

    Peace

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    7 19 90

    I was listening to 7 18 90 earlier today and it just felt "meh".

    7 19 90 already has a springy bouncy energy 2nd song in.

    Very interesting

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    Sounds good.

    The show could be cleaned up and included in next year’s 30TATS -The Sequel Box.

    Yes Crow, I enjoyed 7-25-74.
    And I just finished playing 5-14-74 in the car (took a few days). Definitely a step up from 5-12-74.

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    9/14/74 plus

    Plus omg, 9/11/74. Had not HEARD this one complete before, Doah!
    Felt like it was the most consistent overall of the three nights? and has another sweet 74 PITB, but the P&N through Rat sequence…OMG, tiss the shite mate!
    If you haven’t heard, and like big weirdness ala 72/73, you MUST check out at least from PITB onward…through the fog!

    7/25/74. OBEAH, ole Bluecrow always be giving us the goodness!
    And 5/14, one of my favs of the year, 74 DS, come on…scary moons 😳

    BC, Betting you’ve heard about 51, so other than that, I’d say you missed nothing ; )
    I too, waiting impatiently for 7/25….hear sound of foot tapping…

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Hey y’all
I have a cassette of a show that doesn’t have a date on it. Brent is singing, so it’s in the ‘80s and the crowd cheered loudly when Memphis was mentioned…maybe held in Memphis, TN??? Can anyone help me ID the show for my collection? Set list is below:
Set 1
Touch of Grey
Walkin Blues
Candy man
Queen Jane Approximately
Loser
It’s All over Now
Far From Me
Cassidy
Don’t Ease Me In

Set 2
Feel Like a Stranger
Franklin’s Tower
Box of Rain

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Looks like you might have 3-24-88 The Omni set I, with some of 3-28-88 Hampton set I as filler. I just cracked open my trusty DeadBase to check. It's a fun game, guess the show... :-)

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The compilation matches the style of the taper I got them from-he tended to combine shows!! Thank you so much!!! It’s a fun game! Do you know anything about the Terrapin from the Omni Show? I love a good terrapin!

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Have you ever heard of the site called heady version (all one word)? It's a deadhead generated ranking of all the Grateful Dead's catalogue. According to the site, it lists the top 3 versions as: 2-26-77, 5-17-77 and 1-22-78.

-edit- Looks like Terrapin from 10-22-83 gets some high ratings from the 80's.

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I was listening to the sound of the ribs sizzling on the grill....

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CD by Martin Taylor and David Grisman's Acoustic Jazz Quartet, called "I'm Beginning to See the Light.," 1999.

Taylor and Grisman go at a bunch of true standards (Autumn Leaves, Cheek to Cheek, Lover Man, Willow Weep for Me, Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered...etc.) It is good because it does focus Grisman a little, like Garcia used to do, and bring David down from his free form "Dawg" jamming. It's nice, like at a Dead concert, when the riffing resolves into a recognizable song and melody. On the other hand, maybe you can say that Grisman is excessively disciplined and sticks too closely to the melody here rather than riffing and improvising as much as many jazz players do - could have been a happy medium with his Dawg somehow - maybe he felt a little more free to do that in his collaborations with Jerry. But this is good. Great music for dinner or reading and you raise your head every once in awhile at a nice riff or return to well known swing melodies. And danceable if you know your Lindy. That's probably what was intended. Jerry would have appreciated it, I think - Jerry himself in his last interviews said he was going to see Steffan Grappelli doing this sort of riffing on standards before both of them unfortunately passed on. And of course Jerry was named after Jerome Kern, or so I heard once upon a time, so these standard would be right up his alley.

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Don’t miss this title from bassist Cleveland Eaton from 1974: Cleveland Eaton, Plenty Good Eaton.
This record refuses to get off my turntable deck.
Sorely underappreciated…

Shwack in NH

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I'm listening to Roy Kim's "Only If" right now and it makes me sleepy coz it's a ballad song.

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Haiduk - Morph [blackened death metal]

youtube.com/watch?v=uNQ1-hyWLxo

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Listening to Mason's Children and New Speedway Boogie, 2 Dead songs which were largely overlooked by both band and fans for quite a while.

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any recommendation? what are people wanting to snag? im looking at.....

-muddy waters woodstock album
-sun ra
-howlin' wolf
-alex chilton
-ABB

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I'm off to get...

Gong Live in Lyon 1972 as a certainty. Mind your head!
Charlie Parker as a maybe.

Can't think what else I saw - those are the ones I remember when I had a look last night.

Well, I'm not off anywhere - I'll be poking around online.

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Currently listening to and learning Deep Elem Blues ... i noticed there are 2 dominant versions, live at harpur College version, which is a slowed down real bluesy version, and then the more classic and common "bluegrass" version as heard in the acoustic and JGB shows...

wondering if anyone knows what these two styles are called in the dead/music world, as I'm trying to learn the Harpur College version and having trouble searching for lessons on that specifically that version ("real bluesy version" and "harpur college version" isn't working in the searches)

Much love!

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i am listening to the Doors break on Through Center Coliseum, Seattl 1970

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This is one of those shows where we're so very lucky to have the tape that we have. Mike Tannenbaum's recording gear was supposedly concealed inside a wheelchair. Once your ear gets used to the recording quality, though, this show has some ferocious passages that are absolutely worth hearing. I come back to the Cryptical->Other One->Cryptical->Sugar Mag time and time again. Garcia is just a demon dancing across Other One. And the Sugar Mag... a song that would go on to be played hundreds of times, but here has barely been done a dozen... Garcia's solo is effortlessly rockin' right out of the gate, just so assured. And beautiful harmonies from the boys.

figured I'd post here since someone had revived this thread

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The new Matrix 1967 release is a good one.

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A great box set of David Bowie's demo and live recordings from 1971, leading up to the release of Hunky Dory. It's surprising how tentative he seemed performing live at this time. Come the beginning of 1972, an inspired make over and change of outlook - hey presto - Ziggy played guitar. This box set is really good, charting the path from nowhere's ville to the stars.

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1981 european tour munich west germany.
my first crispy maxwell xl2 found at street fair in greenwich village new york.
best ever opening jack straw….perfect

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This has to be the most random bit of folk/singer-songwriter material I have ever stumbled into. The artist is someone I'd never heard of: F.J. McMahon.

McMahon's album, "Spirit of the Golden Juice", had a limited pressing in 1969 and McMahon tried touring to support it, even eventually doing the tourist circuit in Hawaii, but the album got no play. He finally found himself uninspired by playing covers, so he joined the navy and soon forgot all about playing music for a living. (I tried to say more but it was at this point that I got hey now'd)

(trying to edit my post) try the song 'Early Blue' if you just want to see what the fuss is about

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the Cleveland 12/4/73 show ( I was tryna say more but something kept getting me hey now'd) <sigh>

Wow, what got into Phil Lesh that night!? Somewhere I read that he was ticked off with the promoters and that's part of the reason set II is short. I wonder if Phil was trying to bring the ceiling down on those miscreants. Whatever his motivations were, it's just marvelous the things he does with his bass. He just takes over on Eyes and drives things into one ferociously weird bit of feedback. And that Stella Blue, too...he's playing behind Garcia instead of being way out in front, and yet Phil just goes thundering along. Intense. I've spent the last 90 minutes just grooving to Phil and replaying those two songs. Good stuff!!

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Fillmore East 12/31/69 - 1/2/70. The photo in the book of this box, of the Fillmore East advertises The Dead's shows for 1/2-3/70. Which isn't a bad idea for the New Year.

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JGB 12/31/75
Dead 12/31/76
Dead 12/31/78

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Allman Brothers 12-31-73

This one should be cleaned up and released.

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They were ripping it up and loving it in their first visit to Red Rocks.
Rumor has it that rocks were jostled loose from the walls by Phil's bombs, but that may have been some illegal climbing up there.
Cheers

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9/16/90

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5/26/77
Love me some '77 "Sugaree".

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From the wonderful HCSS Box

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11/30/73

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7/17/76
Amazing "Comes A Time"

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I'm thinking of getting a cat. I'm not - but I keep getting hey now'd when I mention The Dead.

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Tried but got the hey now.

Downhill From Here last night. Meh.

Cheers

Jan. 8 doing DiP20 because I woke up hearing Cosmic Charlie in my head.

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Fall '77 from a bit of everywhere.
Just finished 5-21-77 from DiP 29.
Cheers

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yup 1981-05-02

Peace All!

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of healy, latvala, norman, cutler for Nassau 1981-05-06, it is
hard for me to grasp that this 13th version of dick's picks has been in my GD treasure chest for 25 years!
Rock On Today and EVERYDAY!

Peace All!

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TODAY with a listen to 1981-12-09 [daP 20] CU Events Center in Boulder, CO; it's been five weeks of some very COOL music from 1981 and "tripping the light fantastic", wow:) and THANK YOU for a real good time!

Peace All!
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Starlight Theater
Kansas City, MO
An excellent Chris Chappell matrix over at the archive.
This is one smoking show!

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Bonus songs on “Don’t Look Back” Blu-ray

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1974-02-22 (bonus 2022 disc) crank up the HEAT and bring it on china>rider & ujb!
everyone enjoy your saturday
Peace All!
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Due to hey nows. It's mentioning 1974 that seems to be the problem.