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    Trippy lyrics ?

    Dennis - seen through a certain lens nearly everything from the mid - late 60's could be seen as being about tripping. The BBC tied themselves in knots trying to work out which ones were promoting drug use, so they could ban them and save the youth of the day. Songs like "I Can Hear The Grass Grow" - was that because he had taken drugs? And "A Whiter Shade of Pale" - was that about drugs too? It must have seemed like the whole world had gone mad if you were over 30 at that time. And to be sure, it nearly had.

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    Okay Dennis - it's now on my short list! Thank you! Been ages since I've heard it so essentially it will be fresh listen. I remember hearing/reading that a whole lot of folks preferred 4/16 to 4/17.

    !stShow - Three Rivers is very compact - hiking trail can't be more than a mile and a half total along a low, easy walking ridge line. 21,000 petroglyphs is what they say in that short distance. I've heard of one very cool glyph that is outside of it - would dm that if you were headed down there. Probably would want to tie it in with a visit to world famous Hueco Tanks (haven't had to visit that site yet.) Alas I'm only down in southern NM for work and not so much play.

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    All the talk about 4/17/83 and Steve Stills doing Love the One You're With.

    How bout a little love for the night before 4/16. Steve also there and we got a Black Queen. (I had no idea what the song was that night!) But you also get a Bob Star.

    But the best part is you get the GREATEST Looks Like Rain. At least for me this is it. The last 2 minutes of it are incredible. Bob is really belting out "looks like rain, feel like rain, can't take no more fucking rain", but Jerry's is just ripping it up with a series of staccato notes that make you feel the rain. Brings tears to my eyes everytime!

    Extra - Daverock and Mr Tambourine Man. I wouldn't have gone with celebration of trippy, just a good poetic description of falling asleep. (Maybe my favorite Bob song. So many great lines) I always thought Eagle-Eye Cherry had a great cover of this concept with Comatose (In the Arms of Slumber). (now there's a great album, Desireless. Always loved the double meaning of "Shooting Up in Vain".

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    Thanks BC

    Nothing to be sorry for. I usually listen to the GD Hour every week and I love the tidbits he throws in as filler. Keeps me up to date, lol. When I started listening in the early '90s in PHX he always had fresh shows. Some only weeks old which was pretty cool. Not sure why I was skipping that 4-17-83 series but glad I went back to it. It was an "on" night. It's all about the energy and it is there on this one.
    Thanks for the recommendation on the glyphs. Already working on this year's road trip schedule and will look that one up for sure. Love the inside info from pros in the field.
    Cheers
    I'll be finishing up Monday's Taper's today then see what DV's Pick-O-Day from EU72 ends up being.

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    Yeah the vocals on Love The One Your With are not just exactly perfect lol. Listening to it on my lo-fi system on drive back it seemed a bit more crazed than I remembered, had to turn it down a couple of notches (I tend to listen loud) and the backing vocals by Bobby? and Brent? are also a tad out there and just serve to reinforce that. Reminded me a little of Bobby shredding his voice in the old old days on rave up finale of some Pig Lovelights and Not Fade Aways. Back in the day I figured the 4/17 vocal thing was a surfeit of Bolivian marching powder and the wave of insane energy of a New York/ Meadowlands crowd/vibe but yeah Stills probably couldn't hear himself also. It didn't spoil the show in any way for me back then when I didn't have many tapes and it doesn't now. It just was what it was - a vocal rough spot in an otherwise stellar '83 show IMO and yeah an historic one-off performance of a classic song from the old days. Also want to add that along with that killer H > S > F, I love the Playing and the extended jam into drums. And listening to all this last little bit it struck me that Brent is throwing in some unusual keyboard sounds - like the "marimba" in the Help/Slipknot transition. I'm not a student/scholar of '83 (that would be Oro, among others) but really dig Brent's keyboards on this Set II. And yeah Phil is kicking it throughout and Jerry too his guitar is fire on that Slipknot. And right now listening pre-dawn with fresh coffee to H>S>F on the Senns to the Candace Brightman source on the archive and it is awesome! And going back to the GDH - one thing I enjoy is that along with the live shows, Gans is always serving up some relatively deep cuts from the greater GD catalog. Plus as a fan of Dead and Co he serves up the occasional killer D & C live SBD source, like in episode #1884 there's the Althea from 7/8/23 The Gorge which was coming out of a post -drums Dark Star! A little while ago he played the Cumberland from Oracle 7/16/23 and it was an absolutely ripping version, simply fantastic! His comment at the time was how D&C were really jamming out Cumberland in Set II and that was exactly what I got experience at Boulder 7/1/23. BTW - on a personal note we've been working down by Three Rivers Petroglyph National Monument north of Tularosa and had a chance to do a quick walk of the first section of the trail on a break. So much cool stuff packed tight and much of it different from the rock art up here. Need to visit there with some real free time - there's a nice campground I've heard at the base of Mt. Blanca.

    ConeKid - That vault tour sounds cool. I think the winner should be able to liberate some uncirculated show of personal significance as part of the deal.

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    Had avoided this one until BC's post and going back for the H>S>F but the Stills sitting in on Love The One You're With was a train wreck, lol. Stills clearly cannot hear himself and the boys try their best but it's a bit rough. (as often happens on first attempts of covers) Yet a cool historic moment nonetheless. And not the first guest appearance to go astray so I enjoyed it "for what it's worth". Now there's a tune I wish they'd cover.
    Cheers
    Edit: Yep, that H>S>F is a good one. Tight, and I like Phil's work on this one.

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    onward and upward...

    ...best weekend in a long time
    without my digital leash
    tugging at me...
    look at me, read me, and down the rabbit hole,
    no no no didn't happen!

    what did happen
    I only gained 4 pounds,
    and
    FLY EAGLES FLY
    to N'awlins

    today's listening party

    oct 9th 1989 with the warlocks

    hampton roads coliseum (yup, that was it's name on the map when we first drove down in '83)

    PEACE for ALL!
    uncle_tripel

    PS - luv those Aug '91 shoreline shows

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    shout out to the GDH

    The last 3 episodes uploaded on dead dot net are from 4/17/83 Meadowlands, the second night that has Stephen Stills guest appearance. Lucked into a second set SBD by summer '85 and I loved it. The H > S > F opening the set is pure fire, easily one of my favorites. Been listening to these episodes as part of my long haul drive music. Latest episode with Love The One Your With uploaded today - will be listening to it when I had back home this afternoon.

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...with a high of 30 degrees today, I like when it gets HOT, move that thermometer upward and onward to 1974-02-23
Peace All!
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I was listening to the first of those two San Diego laryngitis shows yesterday. Something about Garcia's playing (for example, on Mexicali -> MAMU) reminded me of the Broome County Arena show from the previous November, 11/6/77. Unsurprising, I suppose, given that those shows are only two months apart. Back to 1/7: what a really well-played first set; that Let it Grow definitely shattered a few minds. And the Dancin->Samson is a real treat. Interesting to compare this rendition to '76 versions, like 6/17/76 Passaic...

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Deer Creek
DaP 40
Disc 1 & 2

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Testing 1, 2. Testing 1, 2, 3. Can everyone hear me? lol
1974-03-24 cow palace diP 24, it's been awhile since the last listen, so let's get on with the show! ROCK!!

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2/3/78 :)

Edit: which should have been released whole. :( (I'm not listening to Dick's 18)
maybe its a good day for 1/22/78 ??

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46th anniversary
Eugene, OR
DaP 23

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So if we set aside the October shows, '74 only has 35 dates to play with. Of those, at least a dozen are released officially and are complete (or as complete as they are likely to ever be.) Then there are several more where parts of the show were used to create an official release (for ex., Dick's vol 24) or perhaps two shows are excerpted and combined (like with Road Trips Vol 2 Num 3) or even three shows (Dick's vols 7 and 31).

When all the dust settles, there are really just a handful of shows - Reno, UCSB, Oakland, Springfield, and a few others in July like the Hollywood Bowl - that are still unreleased until you get to the September European expedition. And of that tour, I think only Munich 9/14 and the two Paris shows are unreleased. But then the question becomes, does the vault hold all the reels from each show? Pretty sure 2/22/74 isn't complete, and I imagine there must be others.

That brings us to the October stand. Does the Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack represent the best we are likely to get from this run? Because I seem to recall there are issues with the master reels. My memory is pretty foggy on that point, though... and it took a bit of work to sneak this post by the "hey now" sentinel.

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Note to all: after much testing, I've found that the name of a famous venue at Post and Steiner streets is a 'hey now' offense. @DaveRock this may be a reason why it's been impossible to post about 1974

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Sounds good but a lot of pops.
Not such a great pressing.

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Deer Creek
DaP 40
Discs 3 & 4

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Honolulu, HI
54th Anniversary
DaP 19

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July 31, 1974 (on CD)
Sweet!
Cheers

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I felt inspired to play this after reading Cnkds post. It seems that vinyl is variable in terms of pops and crackles. Mine played very smoothly, without any audible interference at all. I haven't always been so lucky. 2/27/69 has a bit of surface noise on at the end of Mountains of the Moon. And in the Europe Box set of the Lyceum shows, 2 sides were a bit scuffed - something which Deadnet kindly remedied by sending me replacements. That's a great album, though, that Playing from 5/21/74.

But records are my favourite medium for listening to the Dead now. Mention of 7/31/74 - that's a big temptation to get that on vinyl. Whenever I am tempted, sooner or later...

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you don't ever know, 1974-05-17 Vancouver, BC and yeah yeah yeah, thank you for a real good pitb :)

Peace All!
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Jerry Garcia/ Merl Saunders
The Boarding House
San Fran
51st Anniversary
GarciaLive, Vol. 12

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Yes, it’s a crap shoot if you will get a good pressing.
DP2 10-31-71% was great.
10-9,10-76 had a few sides with issues.
5-8-77 had a huge smudge across the side with Scarlet->Fire, and extensive pops and static on Morning Dew.
The comments for 1-22-78 was that it was a terrible pressing, so I avoided it, even when it went on sale.
All sides of Lyceum 72 were good for me.

I got a Spin-Clean washer and it has helped clean up some dirty LP’s, but it can’t fix a bad pressing.

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I think that Daverock and I both got good copies of 5-19-74.

I’m tempted on 7-31-74, but will wait to see what people report about their copies.

5-7-77 is a joke on the reseller market, asking way too much for it. I’ll get it in a few years when the scalpers are sick of it sitting around collecting dust.

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Seattle Center Arena
53rd Anniversary
There's a good Charlie Miller soundboard patch on the archive.

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Cnkd - yes, my copy of 5/19/74 plays really well. As does the vinyl version of 5/7/77 - a great show. I didn't get 5/8/77 when it came out on vinyl, as I have played it so often over the years I wasn't sure it was worth it. Which seems a bit of a blooper now. I got 5/9/77, and it would be nice to have the trilogy. Like you with the 7th, if I see it at a reasonable price I think I will get it.

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Oakland Coliseum
31st Anniversary

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I was there. (just wrote up a lil review but I realize this isn't the right forum, so I'm movin it)

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Spinning now for the first time, sounds good so far.
140 g, don’t know why everything isn’t 180 g at this point.
Rush released Exit Stage Left as 200 g. Those are some sturdy LP’s.

I got Hard Working Americans “We’re All In This Together” vinyl recently. The LP’s were warped out of the package, but still played fine. The pressing was good, but the LP’s feel lighter than 140 g.

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...TODAY to re-visit 1977-05-04 SET 2 palladium, i know i've got a DL on CD somewhere in my treasure chest...yup, bound to cover just a little more ground. Everyone enjoy your DAY!

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Avalon Ballroom
55th Anniversary

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Ratdog video
TRI Studios
Set 1
12th Anniversary

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No, sorry to disappoint you, but they won't let me print my response to that - hey now!

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...ok, I listened; and now back to 1974 and the Memorial Coliseum concert in Portland, OR, that would be on 05-19. so looking forward to this second set of JAMS and also the PEGGY-O. Everyone enjoy your weekend!

Peace to All!
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...let's kick this off, ...blue suede shoes, ...I'm Uncle Sam, ...how do you do? UCSB 1974-05-25 a daytime gig; is everybody on the stage awake lol, let's GO!

Have a great day:)
Peace All!
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Hey rockers!!!

Paperwork day, good background for autopsy reports is Corvallis 1/17/1970. Underrated and little talked about show.....

My masters are strange folk with very little care for music in them..........

Rock on,

Doc
I like music because it's the only invisible art form......

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let's do it again outside in the daytime; 1974-06-08 in oakland stadium; it's a great day for a ballgame...cheers

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...some fine SUMMER weather with some fine GD thrown-in on the side, OH YEAH! 1974-06-16 will do the trick TODAY at the Des Moines State Fair Grandstand.

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...taking a break to spend time w/ daP 49; doin' a most enjoyable show today 1974-06-18 in louisville, it's been about 8 months since the last listen, so let's get to rockin'

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resist...let the world go by, like the clouds a'streamin'...one more Summer show; 1974-06-20 atlanta, and then I'll move onward to daP 49! everyone enjoy your weekend

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A friend sent me a top ten jazz albums list recently for comment, asked me mine. Impossible, better to ask what were my last five heard. Whats been going on in jazz since the big band era is so way beyond than can be summed up easily. He was looking to discover beyond Miles and Trane, reminded me of the Rick Beato interview of Pat Metheny that can be seen on ut ube. Highly recommended, Pat covers his own career influences, speaks to composition and theory in most thoughtful ways.

I got a great cd by Grant Green last week called "Slick! Live at Oil Can Henry's". Recorded on 9/5/75. Quite inexpensive in England which suggested to me that it might not be up to much. But it sounds really good, has a generous booklet and features some superb jazz/ funk playing. Nothing like his 60's recordings.

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Madison, WI
Scott Clugston master on the archive.

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...not in these parts with a cold day on tap, fireplace is stoked...and away we go with 1974-06-22 daP 2022 BONUS DISC

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My digital copy of The Wire magazine for March has just showed up. One of the reviewed albums is ‘Chicken Shit Bingo’ by Peter Brötzmann and Paal Nilsen-Love. It seemed interesting from the review so I streamed it. Well recommend. It is another instrumental album described as explicit. Presumably for the album title.

One of the other reviews is for a reissue of ‘Sheet One’ by Plastikman. Horrified to see this came out in 1993! I am getting old.

Edit: Still reading the magazine. Streaming another album ‘Resonance Studies in Ecstatic Consciousness’ by Madison Greenstone. It is almost impossible for me to relate the sounds I am hearing with the playing of a clarinet. Well worth a listen.

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Mention of Peter Brotzmann reminds me a of a cd I got years ago - "Machine Gun". I don't know if it's the same man - this one was a saxophonist, and I notice the album came out in 1968 originally. One of the most ferocious records I have ever heard.

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...the road today...[while listening to a cassette [University of Nevada 1974-05-12 set 2]...saw a deadhead sticker on a Cadillac

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"play my guitar" 1973-03-20 Little Feat: LIVE at Santa Monica Civic Auditorium, great listening to this old bootleg;
THE FAN: you were a sweet girl, when you were a cheerleader, But I think you're much better now!

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...it's been years since I've pulled out the dozen or more cassettes and cd's of LIVE "FEAT" Recordings in my treasure chest, so WHY STOP now, 1978-10-03 UNH Fieldhouse today, gonna be a "FEATS don't fail me now" weekend

peace all!
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Kaiser Convention Center
There's video footage of this show minus the encore.
It's on Kevin Tobin's YouTube page.

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I haven't even listened to the 4/28 show yet - 4/27 has just captivated me! I'm on my third listen this morning, just getting to set II.

I have to say, it's been very exciting to see how much approbation this release has been met with! I know '85 isn't everyone's "cup of tea" but I've always loved it so much and it just makes me happy to see other folks vibin and groovin, discovering it for the first time, rediscovering it, or just confirming what they already knew. Thanks Mr. Lemieux, thanks Mr. Norman, thanks all you Rhino folks who made this double release go down. Everybody's Playing...

edit: how I love the transitions from space into The Wheel in 1985! This one is beautiful. Blossom Music Center and the Greek also have nice renditions a bit later, in June. I mean, then again, I always love the way they drift or climb or weave their way into the Wheel; the transition played on 5/19/77 has been making me feel downright emotional for decades now

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Did you get the Waiting For Columbus Box Set from Rhino?
If not, it’s highly suggested