Dave's Picks Vol. 49: Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA (4/27/85 & 4/28/85)

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Anyone who has ever seen the Dead can testify that one of its shows will add quite a bit of color to the environment here at Stanford. Anyone who has not seen one of these spectacles should have the opportunity to do so. The Grateful Dead are an important part of the Bay Area's cultural history. Those of us who saw them last week can testify that the Dead are alive and well. The Concert Network would be hard-pressed to find an act which would bring Frost Amphitheatre to life as the Dead would. - The Stanford Daily

As you know by now, we'd certainly have voted aye on this motion, so much so, that we've loaded up DAVE'S PICKS 49 with not one, but two complete Grateful Dead shows from the Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 4/27/85 and 4/28/85. The first shows from '85 in the series, these back-to-back hometown performances couldn't be more different while delivering the same level of passion and precision, five hours of it, in fact.

In 1985, the band were celebrating "20 Years So Far," a feat that found them on these particular nights confident with invention in terms of both setlists and playing. There are old songs renewed, rare covers revived, undeniably nuanced Jerry moments, and a few surprises from Brent Mydland too. While it's impossible to select highlights, we can say with certainty that the overall clarity of these shows is unparalleled, courtesy of Dan Healy's recordings.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 49: FROST AMPHITHEATRE, STANFORD U, PALO ALTO, CA 4/27/85 & 4/28/85 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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March 13, 2024 - 1:14pm

#351

billy the kiddd

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Anniversary show 3/13/82 Reno. "I lit out from Reno"

42 years ago today I was up in Reno for a knockout of a show, with the Good old Grateful Dead. I stayed in South Lake Tahoe, what a party! Nappy and Nite Cat were also at the show. Top China Cat were you there? Fun times!
March 13, 2024 - 9:16am

#352

proudfoot

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what a greedy organization

disgusting
March 13, 2024 - 2:04am

#353

daverock

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It's all been done before

Crow - well, if you put it like that ! What you say is true, but I was going back in time to when I first saw Robin Trower. At that time, my mid teens, I had little or no historical perspective on the bands I was seeing. Jimi Hendrix was a historical figure - as distant as the second world war, even though he had only died a few years ago. I probably heard "Bridge of Sighs" before "Electric Ladyland".
Rock critics, on the other hand, 5- 10 years older than me, remembered the 1960's first hand. To them, a lot of what I liked was derivative - but to me it was like a bolt out of the blue.
March 12, 2024 - 7:58pm

#354

Vguy72

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Yoshimi....

....I put on (vinyl. I know!) just before reading that.
Kewl. And Klassic.
Ego Tripping At The Gates Of Hell.
Boom.
The Lips deliver awesome packages. Big fan.
Vinyl love update....
It's hard to follow my personal mantra of two records a month.
They sound so much better.
Twenty-year old me is saying, "No shit Sherlock. Remember?"
March 12, 2024 - 4:35pm

#355

Crow Told Me

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Roomful of Mirrors

Generally speaking, it's unfair to compare any guitarist to Jimi. But if you're a guy who uses the same Strat, Marshall amp, Univibe pedal set up Hendrix used, and you're pretty unapologetically copying his guitar sound, well, people are going to make that comparison.

Still, I loved Bridge of Sighs, derivative though it may be. I also really dug a record he did with Jack Bruce called BLT that really sounded like Cream.

Last five, just on the odd chance I don't get Hey Now'd:

Aaron Copland/BSO: Appalachian Spring
Maceo Parker: Mo Roots
Dumpstaphunk: Where Do We Go From Here
GOGD: Two from the Vault
Flaming Lips: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

So what if I am a robot? What's it to ya, maaaaaan?
March 12, 2024 - 12:01pm

#356

Obeah

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ty 1STSHOW70878 and DAVEROCK

Thanks to the both of you (heck, thanks to HF too for that fun post, below)

And yeah, that's just not fair: "not as good as Hendrix." If that's the mark then almost no one will come up to scratch.
March 12, 2024 - 11:26am

#357

daverock

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Random

Obeah - it's often quite random who we get into, and who we don't. Especially when we are young. Robin Trower toured quite frequently in the mid 70's, when I started going to gigs. I remember the music press were quite sniffy about him - not a s good as Hendrix was the cry. If we didn't see anyone on that basis, there wouldn't have been much left.
March 12, 2024 - 11:10am

#358

hendrixfreak

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the Buffalo Rose (after it fell down)

1st show, the Buffalo Rose is a pretty good venue. Rectangular with the stage facing the long floor, they have a modestly sized section in front of the stage for the stand-up close crowd (GA), which precludes room to dance. About 6-7 rows deep of four tables across on the main floor for which they charge a premium ($600-700 for four-top, vs. $75 (+ fees) for GA. Upstairs a horseshoe shaped balcony wraps around opposite the stage and the prime seats on the rail are more expensive. However, behind those balcony seats at the back upstairs wall are bar stools where we took up a position and could see and hear the band quite well. Big open room bar at that end and several bars downstairs. The places holds ~650 and that's a comfortable density. But tics are a bit more expensive as it is small, at least for a well-known touring band. In the past, with local acts, I felt the PA volume was way too high, but either they figured it out or Los Lobos had control. Good fun people go to see that band and I thoroughly enjoyed. We ate at El Dorado beforehand; recommended.

HF
March 12, 2024 - 7:24am

#359

1stshow70878

Joined:
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Just Another Band From East LA

HF - What was that venue like? We saw the Buffalo Rose as we were walking around Golden last month. Was recommended by the hotel staff as the place to hear live music in town. I didn't delve into Los Lobos until I'd heard their Bertha on the Deadicated release.
Obeah, check out the Los Lobos release of the same name as my post subject line for a good feel for them. Start with disc 2, it rocks. The 1st disc starts out with traditional music.
Cheers
March 12, 2024 - 7:00am

#360

Obeah

Joined:
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yarr

thanks Alvarhanso for pointing me in some helpful directios re: RRE.

And Daverock yes if I'm honest I don't know Robin Trower from anything but PH. He seems to be quite prolific. I'd guess one factor is my age - when he was doing that Night of the Guitars tour I was a few months from being a teenager. Another factor might be Trower's absence from American "classic rock" radio - I don't recall any of the material from his solo stuff breaking through.

Ofc this board often serves to show me that my musical depth isnt always as deep as I might believe. HF talking about Los Lobos, for example... I had no idea that those folks rewarded their fans with such live experiences.

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Anyone who has ever seen the Dead can testify that one of its shows will add quite a bit of color to the environment here at Stanford. Anyone who has not seen one of these spectacles should have the opportunity to do so. The Grateful Dead are an important part of the Bay Area's cultural history. Those of us who saw them last week can testify that the Dead are alive and well. The Concert Network would be hard-pressed to find an act which would bring Frost Amphitheatre to life as the Dead would. - The Stanford Daily

As you know by now, we'd certainly have voted aye on this motion, so much so, that we've loaded up DAVE'S PICKS 49 with not one, but two complete Grateful Dead shows from the Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 4/27/85 and 4/28/85. The first shows from '85 in the series, these back-to-back hometown performances couldn't be more different while delivering the same level of passion and precision, five hours of it, in fact.

In 1985, the band were celebrating "20 Years So Far," a feat that found them on these particular nights confident with invention in terms of both setlists and playing. There are old songs renewed, rare covers revived, undeniably nuanced Jerry moments, and a few surprises from Brent Mydland too. While it's impossible to select highlights, we can say with certainty that the overall clarity of these shows is unparalleled, courtesy of Dan Healy's recordings.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 49: FROST AMPHITHEATRE, STANFORD U, PALO ALTO, CA 4/27/85 & 4/28/85 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

More ABB with a touch of Dead

Another couple shows I grabbed was from the Jimmy Herring iteration of the Brothers, which was a joyous thing for me as I attended the 6-18-00 one in Charlotte, but missed the second, Raleigh 9-23-00. Having serious regrets now. Firstly they did Boz Scaggs's Loan Me a Dime, which Duane played a 6 damn min solo on, and apparently played it a bunch that tour starting a month after CLT. But they also added a ripping Franklin's Tower, and Jimmy shreds that one to pieces. It is delightful. The Les Brers in A Minor is pretty sick, too, and a 38 min Mtn Jam. I'm in guitar heaven over here.

Mine arrived today

:)))

Tracking # is dead....

....thankfully, I'm used to that.
Pink Talking Fish were pretty damn good. Would see them again.
Phish's Round Room vinyl arriving Friday.

What a swizz

Dennis - they didn't send me any chips when I ordered DP2. Sorry.

Shipping Notices

Received #49 yesterday. Still have not received a shipping notice. Received the shipping notice 2 days after #48 arrived. Really happy with this release. Not a top 10 but definitely worth adding to the collection.

fourty-nine, TRYIN' AGAIN,

NEW eta today before 1900 hours, NO fingers-crossed today. better half works on thursday, so you know the drill:)
here's to you the unites states postal service; and btw neither rain, nor snow, nor sleet, nor hail shall keep my mail person from delivering the goods REAL SOON LOL!

Peace All!
uncle_tripel

This set was a little too…

This set was a little too big for the box it was shipped in. Sadly mine is crushed. CD's aren't broken, but lots of damage and plastic bits and the package is a disaster. Great shows though.

#49

I had a package delivered from FedEx this morning. I didn't receive a tracking notification. It is my subscriptions!
This is the first time Rhino has ever used FedEx to deliver me a Dave's Picks. Sweet! Love it. No UPS Surepost.

Great job.

Tracking # working....

....says Thursday.

ship

said yesterday, then changed to today, we will see.
Last 5

hey nowed

bull shit can't say last 5? come on

Laughing water...

...49 is here. 20460/25000. Man I love spring and summer '85. I know Garcia's voice is rough but personally I do not mind it, and musically the band is just playing so very well.

Brent's sound is just so full and lush. Just like Garcia wanted back when he said that piano + guitars + drums were "all percussive" and they wanted "more color and sustain", well they sure have it in spades at this point. Phil is like a thundercloud on stage... guess married life was agreeing with him. Weir can be heard well in this mix. I'm only on the first disc but I always love what Bill and Mickey get up to in '85, can't wait for that.

And I dig Lemieux's notes saying "sorry it took so long" because g-ddamn it really did take a long time! Over eight years since the last official '85 release. That's too long, Dave - I hope you're serious when you said y'all are excited to release more from this year

Marye - is Help On The Way???

Dear Marye,

We all know you to be the helper who lurks round here to assist with issues or shared observations on this here board. As you know many frequenters of this space come here to interact with each other and send out positive vibes and commentary to each other's delight. It is one of the few relatively calm, open and friendly spaces for us to e-congregate. That being said, this Hey Now business has been going on for quite some time - a matter of months at this point. We'd like to think that someone upstairs has been queued in to our hardship here, but that is just speculation.

Are you able to provide us with any information at all around the reasoning behind all of this Hey Now 'censorship' or that it is actually known about and that anyone is doing something about it? The levels of frustration are palpable across nearly all posts. We seem to take it in stride at this point, but I am hopefully speaking for many if not All when we say we'd love to get some kind of feedback or acknowledgment around our ongoing plight. At the end of the day, we Deadfreaks are your number one customer and we'd prefer not to feel alienated or ignored in consideration of our vast and constant outpouring of love for the GD and these wonderful musical offerings.

We Thank You in Advance for any information you might be able to share.

Sixtus & All

Got #49 today

2839/25000 arrived here in coastal NC today sans shipping confirm, which is no problem at all if they come this fast. One nit with packaging is that the middle cover seam ripped a third of the way up from a single handling to read the liner notes. The 4 CD pack is heavier and the cardboard seam in the middle of 2 on each side just wasn't up to snuff. Nothing a little Scotch tape can't handle. Gonna set the setting and get into it tonight. Stoked!

Khruangbin....

....coming to town. Two shows in April.

Sixtus

well said, better than I would have said it. I concur, Mary can you get some info on the ongoing censorship? In the words of Larry the Cable guy "what is this, Russia?"

Shipping notice!

HA! My Dave's 49 arrived last Saturday, and I receive a shipping notice today!

Shipping notice

But the image is of DaP 2 vinyl and package weight is 4.7 pounds? Thought that was coming in April, but anybody else order the Subscription and DaP 2 vinyl on same order?

Edited to add: a shipping notice for DaP 49 came in 20 min later. And I just peeked at the DaP 2 vinyl page, and it says releases 2-2-24, so guess we're on schedule for that, and so I'll have some '85 and some '74. Give me Weather Report Suite over just Let It Grow any day. And can never, ever go wrong with a Scarlet opener.

I got

the shipping notice for Dave's 2 Vinyl interesting for the first timer FEDEX. I ordered both the sub and vinyl at the same time.

Shipping

Got the notice a few minutes ago. I’ve been watching it via USPS since Saturday. Got to Ohio this morning. Hopefully I get it tomorrow.

It’s here

Just came guess I know what I’ll be doing while I do the colonoscopy drink tonight 😆

Re: It's here

No poopin' during Drums> Space.

18875 is in the house!

After listening to both shows once, it sounds like I'm listening to both shows on the original cassettes on the original deck in Healy's Rack in the sound and lighting nest for the first time. Thanks to ALL involved in these shows and their eventual release.

Shipping Notice Received

Received the notice an hour ago. Already in Memphis. I'll have it by noon tomorrow.

Frost sooo good for the Head…

Frost sooo good for the Head!

Thanks Dave & Jeffrey!!!

Don't hold back we be in the zone...

85' box set, Greeks thru Chula! Let's go!

Expedited myass

My DaP49 has been within a 2-hour drive of me for 59 hours so far.

For the record reCRAPTCHA

Mopeds aren’t motorcycles.

Yeah!

Yeah! As always...go Brent!

4/27/85

Rolling. Love the pictures in the liner notes. I wish I could read the articles in there but the print is way to small for my eyes. Interesting they didn't use Plangent on these cassettes like did for #39. Sound is good so far.

Shipping Notice & CD

They both arrived today!

Best album ever released…

Best album ever released. Thank you for getting it right this time Dave. Really appreciate it! You can stop releasing shows now, you accomplished heaven.

Burning the midnight oil....

....getting ready for bed. With no '85 Frost yet, figured I'd go with #40. Deer Creek '90.
Because I'm a Touchhead and ❤️ me some Brent.
1990 was a good year up until July 26th.

There's a first....

....I edited my last post and got the Aiko treatment. Backed up, and the edit was posted.
And no. I'm not THAT high.

Khruanghbin

VGuy72 - I stumbled across Khruanghbin for the first time about two days ago on youtube. At first I wondered if they were a spoof - after a few minutes I realised how good they were. Totally unlike any other 3 piece guitar/bass/drums band I have ever heard. I would really like to see them live myself.

COOL..

PHOTO'S...thnx robbi & bob; and used the phone technology [magnifier] to compensate for my poor eyesight to read all the articles

peace all!
uncle_tripel

Rumors are swirling....

....Dead & Co. 14 day residency at the Sphere. There was a SYF on it last night.

49 Is Here Already!

Surprised when I opened my mailbox to see that little magic box! Shipping notice received about 3 hours later… Even though most of my lives shows were ‘81 to 86, I am an early 70’s fan most of all, but listening to these shows loud and rocking out on a dreary day in Goose Creek, South Carolina…and loving it!

btw, I think subscribers should be able to pick their serial numbers as a bonus for subscribing……

Dave's 49 CD 4: Wow, I find…

Dave's 49 CD 4: Wow, I find myself enjoying the Hell in a Bucket on this one - A song I could usually do without. This one has some jammy excitement to it, and sounds like the drummers especially are having some fun. Poor vocal performance from Jerry on Crazy Fingers to remind you that this is 1985, but the music to Crazy Fingers is just exactly perfect IMO - For that reason I wouldn't mind listening to this version quite a bit more - Beautiful playing from all involved! Great PITB, and loving the beautiful, jazzy, Other One-ish jam tacked onto the end of China Doll . . . still working my way through this disc, but might be my favorite of the 4.

Sixtus

Reprising what we said in the most recent Bulletin:

"We're very grateful for your continued patience as we work our way through through some persistent tech issues. We're looking at ways to bring you new, improved forums and message boards in the not too distant future, and we appreciate you hanging in there with us as we sort it out. Thank you!"

Meanwhile, I appreciate all your persistence and resourcefulness in times of adversity. Thanks!

#17,935

That's one sweet picture of Jerry on page eleven.

well, well, well

#12119 in the PO Box on this blue sky morning. John Deere time machine dialed in for 4/27/85 and it sounds wondrous on the Sennheisers. Thanks Dave and crew!!

@Marye

Hi Marye...as I posted recently Hendrix Freak is unable to log in as his password isn't recognized and he keeps getting a digital run around on creating a new account...he asked me again to reach out to you to help resolve his issues...his email as follows

"I can't even get tech support because the site has blocked me from even creating a new password to even try to message anyone at it, let alone the forum.

Would you post that ASAP, as I see that Marye has communicated that they're trying to fix the 'hey now' problem? But it's bigger than that. I'm in exile and it just seems rude, given my 53 year customer status. "

argh

Thanks for the heads up. I'll get in touch with Hendrix Freak and see if we can figure this out.

Frosty In TN

#7911 has arrived! I'll listen to the first show tonight after dinner with a bowl and a few beers.

Pointless improvements

That comment in the Bulletin that Marye re-printed made me think about how often people go to great lengths, and cause disruption along the way, trying to improve things that don't need improving to begin with.
I'm not having a go at anyone on here saying that - it seems to be a general symptom of society. Gives people something to do, I suppose.

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