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    Anyone who has ever seen the Dead can testify that one of its shows will add quite a bit of color to the environment here at Stanford. Anyone who has not seen one of these spectacles should have the opportunity to do so. The Grateful Dead are an important part of the Bay Area's cultural history. Those of us who saw them last week can testify that the Dead are alive and well. The Concert Network would be hard-pressed to find an act which would bring Frost Amphitheatre to life as the Dead would. - The Stanford Daily

    As you know by now, we'd certainly have voted aye on this motion, so much so, that we've loaded up DAVE'S PICKS 49 with not one, but two complete Grateful Dead shows from the Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 4/27/85 and 4/28/85. The first shows from '85 in the series, these back-to-back hometown performances couldn't be more different while delivering the same level of passion and precision, five hours of it, in fact.

    In 1985, the band were celebrating "20 Years So Far," a feat that found them on these particular nights confident with invention in terms of both setlists and playing. There are old songs renewed, rare covers revived, undeniably nuanced Jerry moments, and a few surprises from Brent Mydland too. While it's impossible to select highlights, we can say with certainty that the overall clarity of these shows is unparalleled, courtesy of Dan Healy's recordings.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 49: FROST AMPHITHEATRE, STANFORD U, PALO ALTO, CA 4/27/85 & 4/28/85 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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  • dissident1980
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    I was skeptical ...

    I was skeptical about a 1985 release to lead off Dave's Picks this year, BUT, these are two very hot and very fun shows! Nice picks Dave :-) [Now, onward to September 1970! ... hee hee hee]

  • hendrixfreak
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    I suffer from premature congratulations

    Just finished the first show on #49 and have to add that Bobby finished off the show with Around & Around into One More Sat Nite and man, the band is ferocious! Those songs, except on E72, sometimes leave me cold, on this one my freakin' pants caught fire and... I ain't lyin!

    Props to Billy, Phil and Brent and Mickey is playing with a remark-worthy precision that lays the sneakers-in-the-dryer effect to rest.

    Dave L., you have chosen wisely. Hats off! And flaming pants off too!

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    Angry Jack Kerouac

    A great road story, Jack, well told! They sure were different times.
    “Roads were made for journeys, not destinations”
    Confucius

  • hendrixfreak
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    Strangely, I may be on topic here...

    Enjoying the first #49 show. Yes, early first set sounds driven by the pre-show blast of marching powder but they settle down and my comment is:

    Jerry may be in rugged shape, off-stage, but he sure seems to be the one driving the segues from song to song, where segues occur. He leads into GDTRFB, Truckin', Other One into Peter. I find Jer in exemplary form for most of the first show and on all "his" songs, in fact, like days of yore, the band is running after him at full tilt.

    Ya know, I don't mind an "energetic" '85 show with the serendipity of setlist and the robust even raw treatment of the music. This is Rock and Roll, after all. I keep comin' back to Jer and his performance here.

    So, a wide variety of shows sometimes leans on so-so performances, but in this case, the selection provides a reconsideration of long-held biases.

    In other words, this sucker rocks with the fat man in the lead. God bless and RIP Jer.

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    So Far

    Reaffirming here how much I love this release now that I have fully digested it a couple of times. Listening to it on the home stereo over the weekend took me back to my dorm room in 1989 watching the video So Far. I have heard plenty of 1985 shows, but the way this one is mixed and remastered, the sound/feel of the band is exactly like they sounded when they recorded that video. Not surprising as they recorded So Far shortly after, but man... this is a time machine release. Brent's keys during Bird Song took me to that place, in particular. Thank you, Dave!

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    Kingfish - Big Iron

    Nice call, I have a Kingfish show from 76 NYC. Very nice recording.

  • 1stshow70878
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    Big Iron

    Said this one before.
    Kingfish did killer versions.
    Can't go wrong with Marty Robbins.
    Cheers

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    I’m sure we all have thoughts about songs the Dead could have played. I’m not talking about big hit covers, like knocking out a Stairway to Heaven. No, odd songs you really never saw coming.
    I mentioned several times about how they should have done Ghost Riders in the Sky as a Bob song.
    And Jerry really blew it when he didn’t do On Broadway, while he was on Broadway. Just to hear Jerry belt out –

    But they're dead wrong, I know they are
    'Cause I can play this here guitar
    And I won't quit til I'm a star on Broadway
    The house would have went nuts!

    Well I’m laying in bed last night waiting for edibles to take me to sleep-world and this one crossed my mind. This may actually be an early version of Fire on the Mountain. I always thought Fire on the Mountain was about being in the band. Some of the phases remind me of Hunter.

    The song – Six Man Band by the Association.

    Well, I'm a day at a time
    I'm a day at a time
    Well, I'm a seeker and knower
    In a six man mind
    'Cause I'm a travelin' man
    Yes, I'm a travelin' man
    Well, I'm a comer and a goer
    In a six man band
    Well, I'm a California man, my instrument in hand
    I'm electrified
    On a fast flyin' trip, dirty laundry in my grip
    Mostly drip-dry
    We got the seventeen jewels that dictate the rules
    And the time to fly, as we're passing by
    We just got the time to say hello, and then a fast good-bye
    I'm a travelin' man
    Yes, I'm a travelin' man
    Well, I'm a comer and a goer
    In a six man band

    Use of the word “grip” in the second verse, an old term, reminds me of the 20’s. Would a kid today know what a grip is? Does the youth have a sense of jewels in a watch?
    But then throw in a huge jam after “fast goodbye”, coming out with Jerry growling out “I’m a Travlin’ Man”

    Just a thought, ok maybe drug induced, but….

    Anyone else have a song the Dead should have done?

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    Angry Jack Straw in Vermont?

    Your story, great stuff. Minor point, even adjusting for 1985, everyone outside of Burlington being farmers?? Hmmm... guess you did not get around outside Burl much. If you had said mid 60s, maybe, that's about when the back to the land movement, hippies, communes etc started the meaningful shift that turned Vermont from republican farmers to crafty democrats. The interstate highway system that made this happen began construction the early 60s. I get it about the difficulty is driving east west, drove out to Watkins Glen in 1973 from Maine. When I moved here in 1980 after visiting friends for years, lived on a farm in the mountains near Killington, old timers told stories about rural electrification still, which came in after WWII. Just sayin.... (and wowee zowee, first post in more than a month with no hay now or crapcha)

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    C'mon Louis!

    Ten days of it will be here today. You're killing me Smalls!
    Nothing innovative about lousy service Mr. Dejoy.
    Cheers
    Must be something with W. Colorado as my buddy in Crested Butte doesn't have his yet either.

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Anyone who has ever seen the Dead can testify that one of its shows will add quite a bit of color to the environment here at Stanford. Anyone who has not seen one of these spectacles should have the opportunity to do so. The Grateful Dead are an important part of the Bay Area's cultural history. Those of us who saw them last week can testify that the Dead are alive and well. The Concert Network would be hard-pressed to find an act which would bring Frost Amphitheatre to life as the Dead would. - The Stanford Daily

As you know by now, we'd certainly have voted aye on this motion, so much so, that we've loaded up DAVE'S PICKS 49 with not one, but two complete Grateful Dead shows from the Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 4/27/85 and 4/28/85. The first shows from '85 in the series, these back-to-back hometown performances couldn't be more different while delivering the same level of passion and precision, five hours of it, in fact.

In 1985, the band were celebrating "20 Years So Far," a feat that found them on these particular nights confident with invention in terms of both setlists and playing. There are old songs renewed, rare covers revived, undeniably nuanced Jerry moments, and a few surprises from Brent Mydland too. While it's impossible to select highlights, we can say with certainty that the overall clarity of these shows is unparalleled, courtesy of Dan Healy's recordings.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 49: FROST AMPHITHEATRE, STANFORD U, PALO ALTO, CA 4/27/85 & 4/28/85 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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....no bills for one. Frost #11840 and Phish's Round Room vinyl #02744.
I'm flipping a coin.
Well. The coin was round. Guess I should've known.
I tend to drive home a little bit faster when I get the package "delivered" notification.
Will be dusting off Predator tonight. For Dillon.

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Well, it certainly is for some, like the orange bloob. As far as the upcoming D&C Sphere run, everything costs more these days - everything, except a hike outside with ol' Fido - get out there!

D&C is market price. We've all got to make a living - the entire production staff has to be paid, the venue rented, blah blah. I'm sure the shows are already in pre-production and you don't want second tier schlubs and interns running the graphics at these shows now do ya?

I remember the uproar started when the Eagle$ went back out on the road after getting back together. The nerve!

I paid like $420 to see Metallica at SoFi last fall. Was it worth it? How even to answer the question... can the value of the hang with friends, the memory, having been there vs not having done it be quantified?

Planning on rocking Sphere for a friend's actual, on the day birthday for one of these shows. It's money that could definitely be put to better use, but again... life is short.

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Stanley Turrentine - Don't Mess with Mister T.
Phish - Junta
AC/DC - Powerage
Grateful Dead - Nightfall of Diamonds
Grateful Dead - Postcards of the Hanging

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....that Eagles reunion tour back then was the catalyst for the current concert climate.
The promoter wondered, "Will people pay outrageous amounts for it?"
And. They did.
He was right, to no fault to him.
And so the dung beetle ball started rolling.
The Eagles had at least three "final tours" since then.
KISS has since beat that in spades.
To be fair though, D&C said they would never "tour" again. A residency isn't a tour.
Orange bloob. Pretty much. And that's putting it nicely.
I could go on regarding how the makeup stops at his ears to where it's clownish, but I won't. Even though I think I just did lol.

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DaP 49 kicked down the road from estimated delivery on Tuesday, 1/30 to Monday, 2/5. Super annoying. Departure scan my ass. I know it’s sitting in a truck until it’s filled to come to the USPS in CLE. 100 minutes from my house, for a week.

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....Taylor Swift's security detail needs to be on point from here on out.
And if you think I'm joking, I'm not.
Pains me to type that. For the record.

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I've just found out that Wayne Kramer died yesterday morning. A truly great guitarist-I was lucky enough to see him 4 times over the last 25 years. The last time would have been in 2018 - incredible explosive energy, even at 70. My favourite album of the MC5 has always been "Back in The USA" which I first heard when I was 18. Crow mentioned the Live at Tartars Field live clip from 1970 on here recently - it's on youtube. You can't bottle lightning, but that comes close.

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Talk of Wayne takes me back to high school late 60s, listening to MC5's album Kick Out the Jams, friend Jim P and I would roll something and spin that one up at volume. Posting minimally because of HeighNow blockage. Just got 49, recording excellent, though post 1980 GD is not as much my thing as the first fifteen, Jerry's voice a bit rough but his guitar, outstanding. Holy Smokes, after two craptcha screens, it worked.

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So much for the annual pilgrimage to Boulder, Albuquerque, Austin and/or Dallas for Dead and Company. Ticket pricing, Vegas prices, and, well, VEGAS? Sorry. Thus the road ends for me. As John Lennon might say, "Clapping's optional – just rattle your jewelry." Onward.

Hooray! After a round of "Whack-A-Fire-Hydrant" 🤪, I was allowed to post!

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10 29 77
Tasty

I think I will save the new release for a road trip later in Feb

We will see

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#3664 arrived on Tuesday in the Mohawk Valley. If only all 80's releases sounded this good...

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The sound is so very good on this release, especially for the era. Hot first show for sure, love this release. I have a regular skip of about 3 seconds every half minute or so in Scarlet Begonias, but that was in the Jeep player. Will have to experiment with home player and then rip and see if it clears up. If not, hope the good doctor can help.

I run a small town local history museum and this weekend is the city ice festival. I sponsor an ice carving and usually have them do something related to the city history. One year I had a Stealie and this year I have a Dancing Bear out front. The carver didn't know what to do with the back hand, so it looks like we have a male anatomically correct Dancing Bear. I keep laughing about it. Saving grace is that it is going to be so warm in the coming week that it won't last.

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Heard from my sources that their probably only going to do 3 “shows”, repeated every WE….something about tech reasons and how difficult and complicated it is to sync up the whole show/videos etc

Lots of fun memes out there.
Like the one with Weir above niners logo and te te under a Chefs logo, with both above the super bowl logo. Favorite one is split shot of te te on top with caption: first super bowl, and Bob on bottom with caption: number of bowls undeterminable

49 kicks Ass!

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Stop the Censor!

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Nice people and subjects to talk about, but can’t…
Beyond maddening!

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Now delayed until Monday. A full week of once a day it will be here tomorrows. They're killing me. But good things come to those that wait, lol.
Cheers

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Also, supposedly no streaming, especially on nugs

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Owners the venue and all associated business

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I’m with you 1STSHOW70878. The same thing has happened to me, one week of Tomorrow, Tomorrow, Tomorrow. I’ve seen others with shipping woes, but this is a first for me. Must be my turn.

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because it's dumping wet snow outside and I thought a treat to go with DaP 49 made a LOT of sense.

Still recall how excited we were in 8th grade ('70- '71?) when we got MC5's Kick Out the Jams LP, especially because I had the collectible, uncensored version and if there's anything a budding adolescent loves, it's hearing someone scream Motherf*****! on an LP...

Daverock, the Wake outtakes really are good. What I've done for the Working Man's, American Beauty and Wake outtakes is to select the most complete and well done versions of each song and put them in the LP running order to create an alternate version that kinda gets my mind out of the established recorded traditional LP versions of songs and good outtakes definitely give me a feel for how a song evolved prior to dubbing leads, etc. So, for instance, that beautiful piercing Jer guitar line that starts "Eyes" on the album is missing from the outtakes, which pretty much provide the band live in the studio playing the rhythm section. But YMMV.

Thanks to all for your welcome back sentiments.

As for Dead & Co. my only comment is that I dropped out of the GD live scene in '87 after a three nighter at Red Rocks and a two-dayer in Telluride because poor Jer had his '80s struggles and, at the wizened age of 30 I'd spent 15 years (maybe ~75 shows, including key '72 and '73 shows) with the band's live scene and just needed to move on. Went back for a double-header in Albany in '92 cuz I was cultivating nearby in Vermont. Had fun but the band seemed subdued. After that, I really enjoyed the Phil Lesh Quintet and a few Ratdog shows. But at 66, after 53 years in the rock 'n roll trenches, I've become a bit crowd intolerant (talking, phones, jostling, $$) and the slower pace of the songs isn't grabbing me. Though I wholeheartedly support the players and one and all who are still grooving.

After work and a workout, I'll crank up 49 and dig into the goodies. Have fun everyone!

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More dates! My first show was 1/5/79 a reschedule from November 78, my last show was 6/15/95 I never saw the Dead or any of its spin-offs. After the debut of Unbroken Chain that pretty much did it for me I was 29 years old and decided that it was time to get off an ever changing bus and grow up. After the wild scene at Highgate that was it for me. The Dead played woefully bad and the crowd changed from a bunch of laid back Deadheads into a rowdy bunch of kids looking to crash the scene by making themselves the scene. To me the real day the music died is the day Jerry died. Today is it really about the music or the money?

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65 years ago today. JP Big Bopper Richardson, Richie Valens, and Buddy Holly, RIP. Not Fade Away. Close shave for Waylon Jennings who lost a coin toss to Valens.

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....more dates were added yes.
No one is forcing anyone to go.
I would like to fire up the John Deere/DeLorean to go back to the good ole days, however, that's not happening.

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Good call on releasing this one in its entirety as well. Personal highlights for me include Phil's bass line at the beginning of Minglewood, how the Bird Song gave me a pretty slick flashback and the China Doll. Jerry's first solo sears it with something mournful but Bobby is the one to take the creative lead for the second after the last verse. And Jerry follows in kind. Which is what I'm finding works so well with these two shows. The band is really listening to one another and the ideas keep pouring out aplenty.

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was my favorite year at the Frost. I wish that they would have released 1982 & 1985 together as a small box 1982 & 1985 were definitely the two best years at the Frost.

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Weir and Loathing

Great line

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Been having trouble with iTunes and uploading the discs but (Cr)apple issues nuthin' new they're! ANYWAYS! What I had heard along the way was fabulous! Now finally I got all the songs into the computer library and mixed and fixed, I realize how awesome their playing is in these shows. Jerry's hurt voice aside, (his scratch reminds me of early `70z Dylan) this is one damn fine mid 80's Dead! Phil's Dylan cover maybe the highlight? tough call so many good jams and song versions. Maybe the best China Doll in my cd and mp3 collection (killer `85 drum jam follows) Thanks again Dave! & Happy 25th Anniversary with the Trip!

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You may be on to something, because by my records and accounts 1982 the year has not been represented yet in the Dave's series. That other Frost show may possibly be in the future mix? Anyways my guesses is maybe next year for `82? Also 1976 is due as I figure some calculations.

I’m not paying these prices. It would be easy to say it’s because there won’t be some dude named Garcia standing up on stage. Dead & Co. really doesn’t do it for me personally. The real reason, however, is that I am no longer that impressionable. Seeing the boys at a much younger age was life altering. I would pay any amount of money for that experience again, but I know it won’t happen. I got far more enjoyment shelling out the dough for my girls to see Talyor Swift last summer. “Something in there changed me, dad” was the feedback from the show. That is what music can do during your formative years and is worth any amount of money to me.

Now I am far more content seeing good bands in small venues. Over the past couple of months I saw Big Head Todd and My Morning Jacket. I sat in the first 10 rows, got to talk with members of the band and saw two fantastic concerts. Each for less than $75. Except for the beers of course. Those prices are still outrageous.

Another shout out to 49. This is an awesome release.

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Since #51 is a really different lineup, apparently, hoping that's TC and Pigpen. So for #52, my hope is indeed a 1976: 8-4-76. I am incessantly banging that drum, but bang it I shall co tinue to do, loudly and proudly. It is one of the finest overall shows I know of, is in pretty near pristine quality already, has a great video up at youtubes, yet still I want it. I'd prefer if they went through the trouble of releasing it on DVD/BluRay and CD, and maybe cut some of the tuning. But as there is no such series currently, give me it as a Dave's, it's certainly worthy.

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OOOOoooohhhhhHH Yeah! That's the one show for sure, I've got a few other lesser than pinnacle favs from that year as well. A shorter touring season that year like '74 but for different reasons. My bet (& hope) is that 1976 will be upcoming next year some time. I do recall Dave in a Sea or River chat saying this year in 2024 he wanted a wide variety of eras & line ups. My bets this year are maybe a Bear's banana box Pig show of some sort for #51 & I'm going out on a limb with a post Brent era pick, possibly 1991-4 for #52. For 2025 I feel a 1976 & an `82? Funner than Keno!

HF - I inadvertently came home with the neutered version back in the 70's. I got the proper one on cd later on..only so-so sound though. In 2018, we had the MC50 shows and vinyl repress in glorious red white and blue with the original battle cry intact. The whole album sounds like a rocket taking off.
I would say that's definitely one you needed to hear in your formative years, though. If you haven't heard it yet - I'm sorry, but your probably too late.

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I'm guessing a June '76 Vol. 2 box set will happen at some time. First one focused on the first half of June, and there are some great shows in the latter half of the month. And yes, 8/4 is also a classic.
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Yes, the second half of June 76 needs to be Plangentized and Normanized, especially 6-29.
The Candyman and Playing>Wheel>Playing are epic to my brain.

DaP 51 should be 10-31-91 and 52 should be some Grease.

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Spun 6-10-73 vinyl in its entirety last night.
Took 5 hours but was worth it.
Overall a good pressing and sounded grate. Phil comes through especially nice on vinyl.

“His voice is shot”
Really?
Sure there are a couple songs, mostly on the 28th that he doesn’t sound his best, but I fuggin double dog dare ya to listen to Black Peter, Wharf Rat, She Belongs, just to name a few, and say that again!
And so what, the energy and playing are off the charts.
All things considered it sounds pretty damn amazing too!
GO DAVE! 85 baby

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First it's Vguy announcing that his Wayback Machine is out of order... What??!! Next thing you know, HF is going to say "he doesn't remember the hitch-hike back from Watkins Glen"... (True dat!) Reminds of a friend who 20 years after our run of GD shows said he was bummed because he had never had a flashback. He felt ripped off! Personally, I'm kinda glad, as I clearly recall being lysergic and having a wee bit of a challenge negotiating whatever needed negotiating at the time.

Alvarhanso, I just read it but can't remember what you're banging the drum for, but i encourage you to keep banging... (oh, wait...)

Oro my man! Good to see you're still full of piss and vinegar! I'll be running over to Grand Junction sometime in the next month and will get in touch. Maybe we can meet up again, at that nonexistent McDonalds you swore was really there.......... hope you're well bro.

To whomever mentioned it (Angry Jack Straw?), indeed the Grateful Dead altered my life in a big way, age 15 onward. The lysergic played a significant role. By 30 I started spending a lot of time (and brain cells) in the backcountry of NW Colorado, pursuing wildness, a love that continues at 66. One dim memory: during my GD heyday, the band was playing either The Other One or Dark Star when they abruptly and perfectly smoothly segued into Me and My Uncle and the closing chord of that song simply plunged back into the maelstrom of jamming as it had been four minutes earlier. My buddy and I looked at each other, probably said nothing, but we both were thinking, "What the hell just happened?" That little trick, which I've seen on setlists (but rarely) really demonstrated that the band kept the Prankster mentality alive. And so perfectly executed that it was essentially sleight of hand.

Tell you what -- you get back on this forum and, man, I'm cranking out some pretty disjointed commentary on nothing in particular. Perfect!

Maybe tonight is # 49. I've got the produce in the house..............

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I see that on 8-1-73 (may I bang the drum for 7-31-73 and 8-1-73?) the band played Dark Star into El Paso into Eyes of the World. Maybe that was my WTF? moment...

Or was 1972 to 1992 my WTF? moment?

I think my Wayback Machine is burning oil, dang it. Over and out, boys and girls.

....whoosh!!
Now THERE is a song I haven't heard in a while. Brent & Phil awesomeness 👌.
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She Belongs To Me.
Jerry just being awesome. The fat man rocks. Remember that one? Remember the Garcia/Michael Jordan tees?
I do.
HendrixFreak is a solid bro. Love ya.
Solid release Mr. Lemieux. Mr. Latvala
would approve. Love ya as well you ADHD Canadian freak.
I'm still just enjoying the ride.
Bucket into Crazy Fingers. Very nice.

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Really been enjoying this pick. As a "like it all" type, I hope the variety continues!

Although I mostly listen to, 71-78, I'm abig fan of 79-95. Some of my favorite sets/moments are from 90-95! Yes, the Vince Welnick years!! Plenty of gold to be mined there!

Spring 1993 is the last great Grateful Dead Tour, IMHO, of course!!

Rock on, gang!

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