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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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October 12, 2020 - 9:55am

#5621

JimInMD

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What are we listening to??

I am not sure. Something off the beaten path perhaps..

Somebody was blasting Staying Alive from a raft on the river Friday (decent, loud portable waterproof speakers are seemingly everywhere these days). Something as far away from that horror movie of a song as one can possibly get. I spent the last 30 years trying to get as musically far away from that sound as humanly possible. Yet.. once a year or so someone decides it's ok to play? argh.. :D

Primal? Something with It's a Man's Man's World? 91 with Bruce or do we concede to disco GD style and pick something with a rippin' Shakedown?

I actually don't care so long as it's not disco. Any show's anyone has been itching to hear?
October 12, 2020 - 7:31am

#5622

The Good Ole G…

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Modified Wolf

I think Jerry got the Modified Wolf back in Fall '77 so it's probably the inlayed Wolf you're hearing :)

10/11/77 is killer, I might keep playing it. As I only gave it a cursory glance yesterday. Tempo on LIG is crazy time, they're hard charging.

Also for any geeked out collectors like.. all of you.
Dave L posted some uncirculated SBD portions of 4/29/77 on Taper's Section this AM.

At least 2 tracks haven't circulated before from what I can tell.
4/29/77 is a hot show and DL seems to be a fan.
He's been playing bits and pieces on the Taper's Section for years now and I've been trying to gobble them up as soon as I find them and have done.
3 Tracks are also on Digital Download Series Volume 1.

I think that'll be getting a play today.

What you all gonna listen too?
October 11, 2020 - 10:18pm

#5623

JimInMD

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Relistened to 10/11/77

I forget.. is Jerry playing the Travis Bean or the Wolf on these shows? I think the return of Wolf but I forget.

Listened on two different systems. I am sonically dyslexic tonight.. I cannot determine if sounds too thin or just right and I need to wake up the family to truly enjoy it. My headphone listen did not help..

I also think this release would benefit from a remaster, but it could be my ears and my equipment.

I also stand behind my early to mid 80's comment. He is a man possessed at times.
October 11, 2020 - 8:28am

#5624

bluecrow

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10-11-77 Let It Grow

yes, a favorite version - as you say "absolutely cooking" - a highlight from that release. Got me thinking that I didn't recall any from spring tour and sure enough they took a break from song from early Oct. '76 until Fall Tour '77. hadn't picked up on that gap before.
October 11, 2020 - 7:22am

#5625

JimInMD

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Let It Grow

A great song.. I'm a big fan from all era's. I do like the intensity in Jerry's playing on some of the later versions. Mid 80's and 89/90 come to mind. I also like how the midi can work with that song when they tweak it just right.

Anyway.. agree, great tune with or without the WRS intro.

Edit, I would add if you judge the song simply on Jerry's playing this one's similar to Jack Straw. Up to a point, the more it got played the more ferocious and incendiary the guitar. In one of my early shows, forget which one it was the Let It Grow that I left me slack jawed and scratching my head when the dust settled after the first set. And about six months later I got either the same tape or one from the same tour and I just couldn't get enough of it for the next 8 to 12 months.
October 11, 2020 - 5:05am

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KeithFan2112

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October Bliss

For me it's probably a toss up between the DP 33 Franklin's Tower and the Go To Nassau version, which was my first. Yeah, they're all good, but Jerry is particularly loud and animated on these two performances. Good suggestion on Day at the Green.

Speaking of Help / Slip / Franklin's, today is the anniversary of the last one they played in the 70's (Road Trips '77). I think this one went out with more of a fizzle than a bang, at least as far as Slipknot! was concerned (there's not too far to go in 4 minutes - possibly an all time short after '75) . I think the Franklin's Tower is decent, and actually has a great jam /solo toward the end, but there were a lot of steamrollers prior to 10/11, so it had those to live up to by comparison. They didn't play the triad much at all compared to Scarlet Fire (almost double) or Estimated-Eyes (I didn't count this pairing but I'm pretty sure it received a lot more play). This is odd to me, but they did a lot of odd things with their song rotations. But there you have it - this is the day. I was lucky enough to catch them play Help /Slip / Franklin's for the last time with Jerry up in Albany, June 22, 1995. Funny thing about that show is I had no idea Jerry was in poor health and I though it was great. The video doesn't confirm this, but it just goes to show you how much different it is being there.

Speaking of 10/11/77 - the Let it Grow absolutely cooks - top 3 post-hiatus versions for me. Go figure.
October 11, 2020 - 4:10am

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daverock

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Lao Tsu said..

When nothing is done, nothing is left undone.

Suits my personality to a tee!
October 10, 2020 - 11:55am

#5628

Oroborous

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Glad I’m not the only one!

Jim, sounds like we use similar methodology: I really don’t feel like doing this, but I have too, and I don’t have much time, so let’s mess things up rushing, so now it can take three times as long as going slow and doing it right once, lol
You should see my Swiss cheesed basement. Had to move my surround wires, thought, meh, 2 three holes with the 6” hole saw, pop em back in and mud em, no problem....cue the Gilligan island song!
October 10, 2020 - 11:28am

#5629

JimInMD

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Ooops.. I forgot

I forgot we did Day on the Green already. Just rolling with the flow. I am behind anyway.. pesky work and bad cuts for my exterior trim means I have to both do my day job a little and redo some work I did earlier in the week. Redoing always longer than just doing things right in the first place. Argh.. I knew better and in the interest of expediency, I am taking a project that was time consuming enough to begin with and quadrupling the time it will ultimately end up taking.

But at least I have good music to listen to when I unwind tonight.
October 10, 2020 - 11:01am

#5630

Oroborous

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Rocktober

Not sure I’m familiar with 10/9/82, 10/10 has always been a favorite. A top LL Rain fo sho...

DP 33, just did this, but it’s new for me so I’ll try in sneak er in...

HAMPTON 89: still reeling from last night. After doing 10/8 again during the day as I continue to make a big mess of my basement theater room lol. Did 10/9 at night, proper, including a little chocolate for the first time since this darkness. Too nervous too get that loose I guess? Haven’t felt comfortable freaking freely...Man it’s funny how fast your tolerance can go away lol. Same with beer as I didn’t partake of any alcohol for 8 weeks. Had 2 last Friday and felt like five! It’s starting to come back again, like riding a bike lol, but I’m going to try and keep it on low. Shit is just getting too hard on the worn out organs etc. Anyway, got in a real nice warm groove and listened on the big boy system, smooothh indeed!
Forgot how great these shows are, though I can understand how some folks see em similar to Cornell regarding the hype. Meaning their great shows but if you weren’t there or didn’t know anything about them you might not be quite as enthusiastic? Sorry, not coming out right? But I totally don’t understand how so many are nonplussed by these shows? I do feel that similarly to say 3/27/88 or 10/14/83, the recording doesn’t quite do the show justice...if I hadn’t been there I’m sure I wouldn’t feel that way, but it just seems a little compressed? Doesn't breath enough?
Though I wasn’t at Jersey, I still think maybe 10/16 is overall at least the best show released so far, if not the best of the tour? That of course is subjective/debatable, but I listened to the 10/16 Dark Star immediately after Hampton and I think it sounds better audio wise at least. Definitely think I like the Hampton Dark Star better, including the 10/26 which I went to following 10/16. The first two are technically better, and Jer flubs the second verse a bit on 10/26, but man that last 10 minutes of weirdness that follows is awesome! So much psychedelic gooey madness on this tour. It amazes me how this tour kinda goes under the radar? Summer 89 and spring 90 get all the love, but I’ll take fall 89 anytime. Summer is obviously great as evidenced by all the releases, and Weir has always spoke highly of it. And Spring 90 needs no props, but it’s almost too clean, too perfect if you will. The pinnacle of the rise, while fall their still reaching for it. Fall 89 has an element of danger, especially with the midi and effects. It’s not so new that their still figuring it out, but it’s still new enough that their going for it, experimenting, and learning to normalize it like any other technology in their arsenal. I think Gollum or someone kinda touched on this. It’s such a good tour, I’m really looking forward to getting to know all the shows.

GENNY CREAM ALE: too funny! Genessee was the main stream working mans swill, our fathers generation, we wouldn't touch that shit. (We were hardcore PBR fans)and the Cream Ale was worse, everyone in WNY wouldn’t go there for fear of the dreaded GENNY Screamers lol. For decades it was at the stadium, concerts, they had all the big contracts. Kinda like how New Belgium is here now. Now GCA is micro brew at micro brew prices! Supposedly they’ve made some significant changes. In fact my cousin was at the Brew Pub back in Chrotchfester a few years back and they said it was awesome. Great place and many of the beers were excellent. Not sure he tried the Screamers though?
So DHBrewer, curious how you liked it?

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

1.3 Rollin

Yo BC!

Just getting into 2/89 DV. Solid, enjoyable, maybe not RJ though..

Early 79 highlights:
All pretty good, unfortunately many Auds only, but some of those were perhaps better than an SB, and some of the SBs aren’t so hot..
Started out on fire but you can hear slight cracks entering the vibe by the end of some of these shows. Burnout and tension perhaps?
Really liked the MSG shows especially the eighth. Of course the 10th.
I can see why Dave Likes the 15, but not sure I found it best of tour.
But man that sequence from playing onward, phew, hell the whole second is great! Next 2 almost as good, then of course the unusual 20, and 21.
A brief speed bump perhaps but they solider on nicely.
By 2/3 their nicely back in step and Dane, still think if there’s tapes it would fit nicely with the rest of the Danes: Great Dane Box! Sorta status quo for the next few, nice Kansas shows, then a good, but not RJ big finale n the 17.
Good show, but enough moments of mishap that I felt it wasn’t RJ.
Too bad there’s no tapes as I could see a few releases here.
Something from MSG, the 10 with DS filler from the 20th, the 15 off of Dave’s list, Dane, somewhere, and BTK 2/17 - 422 idea!

Ok, I’ll get 2 more 89 this week, unless I get 49…

2/4/79

friends had a ticket for me but I chose poorly and didn't make the drive from MN. could've heard a Godchaux era Shakedown and an early Iko. no boards of this but there is of set one night before in Indy with that mid set China > Rider. And don't miss that indy Scarlet > Fire! damn i wish Betty was running reels for these. listening to two four set two now. been awhile since i heard indy so its on the list. that Scarlet guitar break is fire

Wish Betty Was Running Reels

The understatement of the year.

I think much of the late generation shows suffer in comparison to the shows that were properly recorded. True, vocals and harmonies has declined but the band played on.

They are playing 7 7 78 today on Sirius XM as I write this. Boy that Peggy-O was something. What a great run to see as your first show(s)

I let a tiny fart out in the Dave's Picks 49 thread. Music posts don't seem to go through but the test one I made later did. Unfortunately I used up all my patience trying to get the good one through.

that July 78 box

is so very freaking fantastic. a couple weeks ago i revisited omaha 7-5 a k a the waterfall show and it was mind blown - what a screamer

seven seven seven eight

one of my first boots was the superb front of board Wagner audience for that first Red Rocks show Set I and Set II through Scarlet transition. pretty much every song in that first set along with that Cold Rain BIODTL and Scarlet is a favorite version. burned in my brain. its all exactly perfect.

BLUECROW

didn't make the drive. I can empathize with you! as I DID THE SAME THING for englishtown (only 35 mile drive);
my fatal error, major gaffe, momentary lapse of reason, bonehead move, dumbest thing to do; AND yes that decision all these years later still makes me want to laugh out loud & cry all at the same time, so everyone please KICK ME AGAIN!!!

peace all!
uncle_tripel

6/23/74

Needed a change of pace after listening to the fantastic 4/27/85.

6/23/74, Dave's #34. Love this one. Hope you can join me.

Oh and bring on that 2024 box announcement from .......74

Ain't Nothin' Shakin'

So I might just as well since I'm waiting on 49. I think I'll start with the bonus disc.
Cheers

6/23/74

Deadvikes - I'd willingly join you, but I played the 1st cd of 5/17/74 this morning, so I'm a bit out of synch. Incredible time for the Dead - amen to a 1974 box.

Ha!

I was thinking February 74 after first amazing listen to 49!
But 6/23 will work. Then, intermission, then 49 again, then perhaps Greensboro 89 where I left off, then later next week digest February 74 for a few days?

6/23/74 Miami

DeadVikes good call. Have to say i probably listen to the bonus disc to this and the 6/16 &18 Roadtrips a lot... Hope you guys are all doing well!!

"wait a minute..." <- in my best pigpen voice

so Deadvikes I just pulled out my copy of 6/23/74 at your suggestion. I have criminally underplayed this one. I call myself a '74 fan too so idk what my trip has been but anyway I grab the liner notes and unfold that thing and read the story of the photos and then I see the credit... to Forensicdoceleven ?!?! ?!

edit: I know this has surely been discussed already. I seem to have poor luck using the search function on this site, but let me see if I can find old posts, i don't mean to hijack this thread. I just felt a strong need to say "wait a minute!"

#34

Holy shit Bob t! Good to hear from you. It has been a long time. Hope all is well.

Obeah, yes, the Doc was involved with getting Dave the photos, I will let him give you the story. I have no idea how to search comments on this site either. I listened to this a lot when it first came out but haven't listened to it in a while.

I was able to get a full uninterrupted listen in today. My god, so good. One of those shows, where nothing is rushed. Sound quality might be the best 74 material I have heard with the exception of the Grateful Dead MST.
One of my favorite versions of To Lay Me Down. Jerry's guitar work is so moving. Great WRS. Love the Jam out of Seastones and then you get the rest of the second set! What is not to like. That Dark Star Jam, Spanish Jam into a phenomenal US Blues, that takes it's time. UJB, OMSN, Casey Jones to close it out. What a great show!

Dig those PNE shows Daverock and the February shows OB.
Would love some more.

5-22-74

Only made it through the bonus disc as I had anticipated. Life got in the way yesterday. The Playin' went some interesting places I didn't expect. Seems the TOOs and Playin' were the interchangeable space jams in the middle from 72-74. Superb smooth China > Rider. Is there a less than great 1974 show?

IIRC Doc had issues getting his photos back. A trouper to give that gift to us all. Thanks Doc!

Cheers

DHB today!

3/30/89
3/31/89
3/30/94: wow! Neat show! Sometimes…

3/28/89 best of year so far…

Friday: much of 6/23/74
1.3 back there somewhere?

And 49 sprinkled throughout!

Feb 74 on deck…
ONWARD!

3/28/89

Will put this on tomorrow OB. It looks like it is a Pearson Healy Miller. I was at the shows at the Mecca in WI and the old Met Center in Bloomington MN in April of that year. My senior year in HS. What a year! Oh shit that means 35th HS reunion this year.

Music is moonlight in the gloomy night of life......

Been in the hospital for a week with pneumonia, wife with metastatic cancer, life, it seems, has dealt us a harsh hand...............

In regard to Miami. Yes, I supplied the photos, the story is from the deep Dead past, now merely a footnote on a footnote and not so important. I had a chance to make a very minor contribution to the community, so I took it and dealt with the fallout. Bad feelings yes, long since discharged, let's focus on the music.........

It was, after all, the kind of magic that only the Dead could conjure. Very fine and very interersting, consumate quirky gooey good old Grateful Dead. Apart from Providence (my second show), my favorite 1974 outing...........

Rock on,

Doc

Best wishes

For Doc & the Mrs.
You're the best.

Doc sorry to hear the news

Doc, I'm sorry to hear your news,I hope things will get better for you and your wife.

Doc

So sorry you and your wife are going through this hard time.

Doc

Sorry to hear that no good news. Best wishes and best of luck to you and your wife.

thanks Doc

Well let me just take this opportunity to say 'thanks for the photos', and meantime, I'm so sorry to hear that your health is going through a rough spot, and your wife's situation sounds even more serious. Much sympathy.

Doc

Doc, sorry to hear about the health issues with you and your wife.
I hope it gets better for the two of you.

Sorry Doc

Best wishes to you and the Mrs.
Cancer sucks.

SUPER4DTOTO

Sorry to hear that no good news. Best wishes and best of luck to you and your wife.

The Good Doctor

Sending best wishes your way Doc. There's not much we can do or say but we are thinking of you both in the best of all possible ways.

best wishes and hopes

Thinking of you and yours, Doc. Heartfelt wishes that your connection to the medical community results in the best possible care in Jville. Though we have never met, special discovering you were an unknown neighbor eons ago here in the land of big green, that we happened to be at Lewiston and maybe Boston shows. Thanks for your devotion and contributions to these boards.

So sorry to hear this

Doc, six years ago my wife was diagnosed with cancer and I rode in a similar horribly difficult sidecar.

Hope for some gentle days ahead for you and yours, and sending healing vibes your way.

"that path is for your steps alone"

Doc

been sidelined a bit too and just read about this, so sorry to hear of you and your wife's medical woes. Hopefully the VA can help with this and that the bill won't be out of this world. I hope for the very best for both of you. Keep on Keeping on my Florida bro. Get well soon.

Aaaa FFS!

So sorry to hear bout you and the misses Doc.
Effin cancer cancer cancer, Marsha Marsha Marsha, man it seems to be all we hear these daze. In stead of pissing billions away on space pipe dreams, and tax breaks for uber corporations, how bout we cure cancer and clean up our home we’ve turned into a cesspool!

Be well, and may the music heal!
Our thoughts are with you!

Onward Dr. and Mrs. Doc

Even though most of us have never met "ForensicDocEleven" in person, your good spirit shines through on these pages year in and year out. Words fail me, but, right now, I'm adding whatever energy I can in hopes you and Mrs. Doc get through this smooth and soon. Onward brother.

3/28/89

Good show OB. Thank you for the recommendation. Great mix. LTGTR, Franklins, Stranger! Nice start. Stagger Lee. Memphis Blues. Really good flow to the first set.
Good second set Playing, Foolish Heart. Always enjoy a Box of Rain encore.

Decided to revisit Ladies and Gentlemen this afternoon. Wow! Bob Matthews and Betty did a great job with these recordings. Is it too late to go back and give us all these Fillmore East shows in a box?

DV

Vguy recommended 3/28 as a POTD awhile ago.
I rehit it for enjoyment and comparison etc

Hit the first six of 84 since, with some 6/24/85 and some of February 74 too.

Thinking 2/27/69 for Doc! Big medicine!

Going to continue with 84 and 89, perhaps try another 94.
I’ll let you know if anything moves me…

Go Niners!

Big Medicine

I'm down for some 2 27 69 Big Medicine.

I haven't gotten to 3 28 89 yet but I did hit Miami 74. That Cumberland snuck up on me, great picking and then there are the other highlights that shined just as bright this week and I remembered. The recording might have shot up a notch too.

Big Medicine, which reminds me I go under the knife for my shoulder Friday. My ills do not compare but I will take the Big Medicine offer from the kind people here. Believe it if you need it, right.

Sports Fans

Okay OB. If I only had those 69 shows.

Anyway, decided to go with 6/14/76 from the Beacon Theatre. The June 76 Box still shines.

Enjoy your Superbowl Sunday out there.

Hope your surgery goes well Jim.

Thanks DV

I have to hit those 76 shows again.

Funny.. those post haitus releases shook me out of my 68 through 74 comfort zone, there was a period when I just couldn't get enough 80's (and 90's, toss in some 79 for good measure). High octane GD. I hit the Giants box pretty hard but spent some time in 85 (of course), Spring 90 and several shows in 89. I just couldn't get enough.

But hitting Dave's 49 through several listens was a nice aperitif and More 74 broke the spell. They played the WRS>Row Jimmy from DaP 13 on my drive home last night. Icing on the cake.

Grateful Dead, good for what ails (ales) you.

Thanks so much for keeping the spirit going. I'm mostly keeping up.

DaP 13 1974

What's the story with Jerry's F... SUNY t-shirt from the photo in the liner notes? I remember seeing it before but couldn't seem to bring up a story. GD played there going back to 1970? Sounds like some discontent there.
Cheers

SUNY

Ha, as a proud alumnus of the “fine” institution lol, seems like something a student would come up with? Perhaps it’s as simple as JG thought it was funny, or a student offered it up as a joke? But now of course you went and did it lol, so now we have another mystery for Inspector Lose O!
Damn you fist show! ; )
DV, anything, just ask…
JIM, hope that doc isn’t stingy with the propofol, hear that shommer shit is very
Owey. We will of course be thinking good thoughts, any last, er a, I mean any requests for while your elsewhere? ; )

2-11-86

For tomorrow?
Laissez les bons temps rouler!
Actually on a Fat Tuesday in '86.
For my friend "Swamp" who would always skip class for a week to go back home to N.O. for Mardi Gras.
Cheers
Edit: Is there an official release of this?

Positive Vibes

On your surgery Jim.
Hope all goes well brother!

2/11/86

I'm still off work on disability from Legionnaire's Disease, so I'll do 2/11/86 tomorrow.
Don't think there's been an official release, but there's a cassette soundboard patch on the archive.
Uploaded by Jonathan Auizen.

Good luck Jimbo

Hoping for a successful surgery and quick recovery.

2/11/86

Rollin!

Went with the HS matrix?

If ya dig 86 I highly recommend 3/24/86…

Excellent (in the Mr. Burns voice)

What a pleasant surprise! Lively show with a killer start, great set list, and in an unusual order. Was Jerry in one of his "clean" phases? Can't get more authentic on the Iko-Iko than with the Nevilles! And the drums segments (plural) were a treat. It's clear the band was having a great time. What a difference that can make.
Cheers

2/11/86

That was a good show.
Wild transition into Truckin.

The Nevilles

Added so much to the second set. Those extra guitar riffs during the second NFA > Hey Bo Diddley > GDTRFB really complemented the boys' playing so well. Let the good times roll!
Cheers

RE 2/11/86

Fun enjoyable show!
HS matrix was good.
I’d call it good, but not RJ: fun, good energy, but a tad sloppy in spots.
JG struggles occasionally I.e., Might as Well. But that isn’t a problem for me…
Think this was first year doing the MG drum thing?
If yer into that, I know I liked the tape I had from 89 of it…
Nice to do something completely different.

2/15/73

Dane County Coliseum
I'm rolling this one today if anyone else wants to?
This was one of the first tapes I acquired back when I first started going to shows on a regular basis.
There's a good matrix on the archive.
Peace

Rolling in 84 TN

But that show MUST be released!
Finished hitting all of 73 last year and I think the first six shows of the year would make a killer box, better than HCS!
Or,
A Great Dane Box, all the remaining Dane shows including the 2 73 reels…
Enjoy, that is a awesome show, RJ for sure!

EDIT: it’s on Dave’s list too, so…

2/15/73 Dane County

Happy anniversary Dark Star blip....... Also anyone see Two Towers Documentary on Fall 73 Tours??