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marye

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July 24, 2024 - 2:02pm

#651

bluecrow

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9/14/74 - Olympia Halle, Munich

Oro on his ongoing trip through '74 had me revisit this overlooked show from Europe '74. (David Usborne matrix). Parts of the SBD are missing but don't be deterred, there's some great playing on this one!
July 24, 2024 - 1:54pm

#652

bluecrow

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7/25/74 tape story

Obeah - here's an edited/slightly reworked version of what I posted on another forum years ago. I'd go for the GEMS SBD remaster (152924). Not as jammed out as some '74 but there is some really and truly, very fine, music here (sound of Oro's foot tapping.) The Dark Star jam is unlike any out there and I really really dig it.

Ca. 1997/98 – I was living in a small desert town. First worked here summer of ’95 and it was here that I first learned of Jerry’s passing (and still here 25+ years later). Jim, a long time resident (moved away years ago) and fellow Deadhead (saw Vegas Ice Palace ’69 I think) mentioned that a friend had come through town and left a list of tapes he had to trade/share. The friend was a river runner out of Flagstaff, would be back through town in a week or so. Jim invited me to take a look at the list and see if there was anything I wanted. It was a short list – all that I remember at this point is that it had the International Amphitheatre show, 7/25/74, complete show, an audience rated at C-. The show was unknown to me and, as a favorite year and a Chicago boy at heart (born and raised north suburbs), I asked for that one.

One night a little while later the river runner friend came back through town. I remember standing outside in the summer dark talking to him for maybe 10-20 minutes, he only stopped to drop off tapes. It turned out that he had taped the show himself and it was the only show he ever taped. A cheap deck with the microphones hanging over the balcony railing (IIRC). He had talked to Phil outside the back door before the show and Phil had big time dosed him. Said that Phil sat on a stool for part of the show. He got all wide-eyed with nostalgic awe when he recalled the Ship of Fools encore – clearly the song had been a major religious experience. I think he handed me his masters to make a copy (or maybe he just dropped off a copy?), saying he would pick them up from our mutual friend on the way back through town. Don’t recall his name and never saw him again.

Listening to the tapes you felt like you were way in the back of a cavernous space. To me, C- was possibly a generous grade, but with a pair of cheap headphones (all my gear was cheap at the time) - listening in the dark in the middle of the high desert night - you could be there, and for a poor boy in the backwoods of tapes it was a cool listen. I dubbed a couple of copies and sent one to Jeff, a close friend, who was back in the Chicago area – at the time he was managing Dr. Wax (a chain of several used record/CD stores/Jeff also founded and ran a niche record label Quinnah Records) A little while later Jeff calls me, all excited. “Where did you get this?? This is the only known recording of this show currently in circulation!!!” Circulation was a relative term in this case. Turns out Jeff had reached out/was in contact with the gentlemen who were putting together the first Tapers Compendium and, connected as they were, they knew of no other recordings of this show. The Compendium folks wanted him to review the tapes/show for the Compendium, but in the end it was too late because the book had just gone into galley(?) and it was too much trouble to revise it. This is the only ’74 show not reviewed/completely missing from the first edition Tapers Compendium Vol I.

A bunch of high-end traders contacted Jeff requesting copies. When Jeff asked one what his opinion of the tapes were, the gentleman replied that it was pretty rough and that basically it was for completists only, but of course it had a heretofore uncirculated Dark Star with a Slipknot tease, which was everything you needed to know right there. This may have been at the time the only uncirculated Dark Star post-1970. Another commented that he thought he knew the person who might have the soundboard reels (or copies of them) but that they were holding them close. The SBD recording finally entered public circulation a few years later and Dave Lemieux (I raise a toast, or two or three, or more, in his honor) has featured portions of this show a time or three, I think, in the Jam of the Week and/or the Tapers Section/and 30 days of the Dead. So the masters are in the vault. The audience has never been uploaded to the archive.

It makes me smile that this show first resurfaced from the depths of time (relatively speaking) in this dusty, high desert, town.
July 24, 2024 - 1:40pm

#653

13Cyclopath

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Dave's Picks 11

1972 was some great concerts in some out-of-the way places
July 24, 2024 - 9:45am

#654

Oroborous

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9/18/74

Rise and shine lil Pedro
Bfast in bed wiff the GD
July 24, 2024 - 9:30am

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proudfoot

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RIP Jerry Miller of Moby Grape

Passed in Tacoma at 81
July 24, 2024 - 9:18am

#656

proudfoot

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Disc 4 of "Unlabled 1968 GD"

Saint Stephen >
TIFTOO >
Lovelight

The SS is a very early version

Edit
Theres info about this on e t r e e
July 24, 2024 - 4:52am

#657

uncle_tripel

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Today needs...

...a small bit of squawking or is it squonking...someone recently mentioned Ornette Coleman with the Boys in 1993...anyway PHILA 1973 SEPT 21 Set 2 should fill the jones with guests Martin Fiero & Joe Ellis

Peace for All!
uncle_tripel
July 24, 2024 - 3:05am

#658

TN John

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5/25/72

Lyceum Theatre

Peace
July 23, 2024 - 8:49pm

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proudfoot

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7 19 90

I was listening to 7 18 90 earlier today and it just felt "meh".

7 19 90 already has a springy bouncy energy 2nd song in.

Very interesting
July 23, 2024 - 4:46pm

#660

icecrmcnkd

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11-11-67

141133.sbd.dalton.miller.sirmick
Sounds good.

The show could be cleaned up and included in next year’s 30TATS -The Sequel Box.

Yes Crow, I enjoyed 7-25-74.
And I just finished playing 5-14-74 in the car (took a few days). Definitely a step up from 5-12-74.

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New year, new update. Tell us of your musical adventures in real time!

the heat is on...

...with a high of 30 degrees today, I like when it gets HOT, move that thermometer upward and onward to 1974-02-23
Peace All!
uncle_tripel

I was listening to the first of those two San Diego laryngitis shows yesterday. Something about Garcia's playing (for example, on Mexicali -> MAMU) reminded me of the Broome County Arena show from the previous November, 11/6/77. Unsurprising, I suppose, given that those shows are only two months apart. Back to 1/7: what a really well-played first set; that Let it Grow definitely shattered a few minds. And the Dancin->Samson is a real treat. Interesting to compare this rendition to '76 versions, like 6/17/76 Passaic...

7/18/90

Deer Creek
DaP 40
Disc 1 & 2

Testing 1, 2. Testing, 1, 2, 3.

Testing 1, 2. Testing 1, 2, 3. Can everyone hear me? lol
1974-03-24 cow palace diP 24, it's been awhile since the last listen, so let's get on with the show! ROCK!!

Peace All!
uncle_tripel

2/3/78 :)

Edit: which should have been released whole. :( (I'm not listening to Dick's 18)
maybe its a good day for 1/22/78 ??

1/22/78

46th anniversary
Eugene, OR
DaP 23

uncle tripel

I hear you, but they keep blocking my posts on 74. Great year - I'll leave it at that.

Seddy Fo

So if we set aside the October shows, '74 only has 35 dates to play with. Of those, at least a dozen are released officially and are complete (or as complete as they are likely to ever be.) Then there are several more where parts of the show were used to create an official release (for ex., Dick's vol 24) or perhaps two shows are excerpted and combined (like with Road Trips Vol 2 Num 3) or even three shows (Dick's vols 7 and 31).

When all the dust settles, there are really just a handful of shows - Reno, UCSB, Oakland, Springfield, and a few others in July like the Hollywood Bowl - that are still unreleased until you get to the September European expedition. And of that tour, I think only Munich 9/14 and the two Paris shows are unreleased. But then the question becomes, does the vault hold all the reels from each show? Pretty sure 2/22/74 isn't complete, and I imagine there must be others.

That brings us to the October stand. Does the Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack represent the best we are likely to get from this run? Because I seem to recall there are issues with the master reels. My memory is pretty foggy on that point, though... and it took a bit of work to sneak this post by the "hey now" sentinel.

PSA: hey now and a famous ballroom

Note to all: after much testing, I've found that the name of a famous venue at Post and Steiner streets is a 'hey now' offense. @DaveRock this may be a reason why it's been impossible to post about 1974

Obeah

That makes sense. Well, it doesn't - but I understand what your saying. I'd never of thought of that.

5-21-74% vinyl

Sounds good but a lot of pops.
Not such a great pressing.

7/19/90

Deer Creek
DaP 40
Discs 3 & 4

1/23/70

Honolulu, HI
54th Anniversary
DaP 19

DaP 2

July 31, 1974 (on CD)
Sweet!
Cheers

5/21/74 % vinyl

I felt inspired to play this after reading Cnkds post. It seems that vinyl is variable in terms of pops and crackles. Mine played very smoothly, without any audible interference at all. I haven't always been so lucky. 2/27/69 has a bit of surface noise on at the end of Mountains of the Moon. And in the Europe Box set of the Lyceum shows, 2 sides were a bit scuffed - something which Deadnet kindly remedied by sending me replacements. That's a great album, though, that Playing from 5/21/74.

But records are my favourite medium for listening to the Dead now. Mention of 7/31/74 - that's a big temptation to get that on vinyl. Whenever I am tempted, sooner or later...

Goes to show,

you don't ever know, 1974-05-17 Vancouver, BC and yeah yeah yeah, thank you for a real good pitb :)

Peace All!
uncle_tripel

1/23/73

Jerry Garcia/ Merl Saunders
The Boarding House
San Fran
51st Anniversary
GarciaLive, Vol. 12

Vinyl

Yes, it’s a crap shoot if you will get a good pressing.
DP2 10-31-71% was great.
10-9,10-76 had a few sides with issues.
5-8-77 had a huge smudge across the side with Scarlet->Fire, and extensive pops and static on Morning Dew.
The comments for 1-22-78 was that it was a terrible pressing, so I avoided it, even when it went on sale.
All sides of Lyceum 72 were good for me.

I got a Spin-Clean washer and it has helped clean up some dirty LP’s, but it can’t fix a bad pressing.

5-19-74 vinyl, etc

I think that Daverock and I both got good copies of 5-19-74.

I’m tempted on 7-31-74, but will wait to see what people report about their copies.

5-7-77 is a joke on the reseller market, asking way too much for it. I’ll get it in a few years when the scalpers are sick of it sitting around collecting dust.

1/24/71

Seattle Center Arena
53rd Anniversary
There's a good Charlie Miller soundboard patch on the archive.

Vinyl

Cnkd - yes, my copy of 5/19/74 plays really well. As does the vinyl version of 5/7/77 - a great show. I didn't get 5/8/77 when it came out on vinyl, as I have played it so often over the years I wasn't sure it was worth it. Which seems a bit of a blooper now. I got 5/9/77, and it would be nice to have the trilogy. Like you with the 7th, if I see it at a reasonable price I think I will get it.

1/24/93

Oakland Coliseum
31st Anniversary

1/24/93

I was there. (just wrote up a lil review but I realize this isn't the right forum, so I'm movin it)

2-19-71 vinyl

Spinning now for the first time, sounds good so far.
140 g, don’t know why everything isn’t 180 g at this point.
Rush released Exit Stage Left as 200 g. Those are some sturdy LP’s.

I got Hard Working Americans “We’re All In This Together” vinyl recently. The LP’s were warped out of the package, but still played fine. The pressing was good, but the LP’s feel lighter than 140 g.

hmmm, it's time...

...TODAY to re-visit 1977-05-04 SET 2 palladium, i know i've got a DL on CD somewhere in my treasure chest...yup, bound to cover just a little more ground. Everyone enjoy your DAY!

Peace All!
uncle_tripel

1/25/69

Avalon Ballroom
55th Anniversary

1/25/12

Ratdog video
TRI Studios
Set 1
12th Anniversary

2/19/71 - vinyl

No, sorry to disappoint you, but they won't let me print my response to that - hey now!

i found it...

...ok, I listened; and now back to 1974 and the Memorial Coliseum concert in Portland, OR, that would be on 05-19. so looking forward to this second set of JAMS and also the PEGGY-O. Everyone enjoy your weekend!

Peace to All!
uncle_tripel

red & white...

...let's kick this off, ...blue suede shoes, ...I'm Uncle Sam, ...how do you do? UCSB 1974-05-25 a daytime gig; is everybody on the stage awake lol, let's GO!

Have a great day:)
Peace All!
uncle_tripel

People come to music to seek oblivion....

Hey rockers!!!

Paperwork day, good background for autopsy reports is Corvallis 1/17/1970. Underrated and little talked about show.....

My masters are strange folk with very little care for music in them..........

Rock on,

Doc
I like music because it's the only invisible art form......

Love that Sunshine...

let's do it again outside in the daytime; 1974-06-08 in oakland stadium; it's a great day for a ballgame...cheers

peace all!
uncle_tripel

thinkin' about...

...some fine SUMMER weather with some fine GD thrown-in on the side, OH YEAH! 1974-06-16 will do the trick TODAY at the Des Moines State Fair Grandstand.

peace all!
uncle_tripel

before...

...taking a break to spend time w/ daP 49; doin' a most enjoyable show today 1974-06-18 in louisville, it's been about 8 months since the last listen, so let's get to rockin'

peace all!
uncle_tripel

Couldn't

resist...let the world go by, like the clouds a'streamin'...one more Summer show; 1974-06-20 atlanta, and then I'll move onward to daP 49! everyone enjoy your weekend

peace all!
uncle_tripel

Modern Jazz, Beato Metheny

A friend sent me a top ten jazz albums list recently for comment, asked me mine. Impossible, better to ask what were my last five heard. Whats been going on in jazz since the big band era is so way beyond than can be summed up easily. He was looking to discover beyond Miles and Trane, reminded me of the Rick Beato interview of Pat Metheny that can be seen on ut ube. Highly recommended, Pat covers his own career influences, speaks to composition and theory in most thoughtful ways.

Talking of jazz

I got a great cd by Grant Green last week called "Slick! Live at Oil Can Henry's". Recorded on 9/5/75. Quite inexpensive in England which suggested to me that it might not be up to much. But it sounds really good, has a generous booklet and features some superb jazz/ funk playing. Nothing like his 60's recordings.

Language

Circles Around The Sun

2/4/79

Madison, WI
Scott Clugston master on the archive.

miami heat...

...not in these parts with a cold day on tap, fireplace is stoked...and away we go with 1974-06-22 daP 2022 BONUS DISC

peace all!
uncle_tripel

Just finished

My digital copy of The Wire magazine for March has just showed up. One of the reviewed albums is ‘Chicken Shit Bingo’ by Peter Brötzmann and Paal Nilsen-Love. It seemed interesting from the review so I streamed it. Well recommend. It is another instrumental album described as explicit. Presumably for the album title.

One of the other reviews is for a reissue of ‘Sheet One’ by Plastikman. Horrified to see this came out in 1993! I am getting old.

Edit: Still reading the magazine. Streaming another album ‘Resonance Studies in Ecstatic Consciousness’ by Madison Greenstone. It is almost impossible for me to relate the sounds I am hearing with the playing of a clarinet. Well worth a listen.

Peter Brotzmann

Mention of Peter Brotzmann reminds me a of a cd I got years ago - "Machine Gun". I don't know if it's the same man - this one was a saxophonist, and I notice the album came out in 1968 originally. One of the most ferocious records I have ever heard.

DP 26

Vinyl edition

out on...

...the road today...[while listening to a cassette [University of Nevada 1974-05-12 set 2]...saw a deadhead sticker on a Cadillac

peace all!
uncle_tripel

"Hey Man"...

"play my guitar" 1973-03-20 Little Feat: LIVE at Santa Monica Civic Auditorium, great listening to this old bootleg;
THE FAN: you were a sweet girl, when you were a cheerleader, But I think you're much better now!

peace all!
uncle tripel

right On...

...it's been years since I've pulled out the dozen or more cassettes and cd's of LIVE "FEAT" Recordings in my treasure chest, so WHY STOP now, 1978-10-03 UNH Fieldhouse today, gonna be a "FEATS don't fail me now" weekend

peace all!
uncle_tripel

2/9/86

Kaiser Convention Center
There's video footage of this show minus the encore.
It's on Kevin Tobin's YouTube page.

Frost 4/27/85

I haven't even listened to the 4/28 show yet - 4/27 has just captivated me! I'm on my third listen this morning, just getting to set II.

I have to say, it's been very exciting to see how much approbation this release has been met with! I know '85 isn't everyone's "cup of tea" but I've always loved it so much and it just makes me happy to see other folks vibin and groovin, discovering it for the first time, rediscovering it, or just confirming what they already knew. Thanks Mr. Lemieux, thanks Mr. Norman, thanks all you Rhino folks who made this double release go down. Everybody's Playing...

edit: how I love the transitions from space into The Wheel in 1985! This one is beautiful. Blossom Music Center and the Greek also have nice renditions a bit later, in June. I mean, then again, I always love the way they drift or climb or weave their way into the Wheel; the transition played on 5/19/77 has been making me feel downright emotional for decades now

Uncle_TripeFace Boogie

Did you get the Waiting For Columbus Box Set from Rhino?
If not, it’s highly suggested