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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • The Good Ole G…
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    OB - 10/14 you say.. all right, loading it up on the phone for some exploration. Taper's Compendium mentioned that one as well, I think DV too, so it's confirmed.

    I'd say 10/14/80 for you, make an acoustic set out of the SBD of first two tracks, 4 songs on Reckoning and 4 songs from Audience, or just do the audience tape. Unless you want the whole meal deal, which is good or did you already listen to it the other day? If that's the case dive into 10/9 & 10/10. Or yeah, primal is never a bad option.

    Alright my friend. Miami 10/25 sounded pretty hot from what I heard yesterday, the 10/26 Dark Star is a dark monster. Hampton was historic, so you made the right pick between the two, but yeah you probably should've gone to see them all ;)

    Who am I kidding, I didn't see any shows in 1989!
    Found out they were playing Dark Star again right before the show on 10/22/90. Talking to this American head who said, yeah man they played Dark Star the other night in Berlin. What have I been missing I thought?!?! Ah pre-internet days... I kinda miss them, then again, what would I do without all my time?!?!

    What a trip to think about!

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    So far I’ve done every show through the 16th in order. Though their all good shows, the 14th is the one that I liked best so far (other than the 3 big dogs obviously). Really looking forward to Philly and then the 3 shows I’ve never heard.
    Really curious about 10/25 as I had tickets and was originally going to Philly then Miami since we had such a good time at the 88 shows down there. But when Hampton popped up, especially as “the Warlocks” I knew I HAD to get there, which is a whole other 2 stories, one for each ticket lol. But I had been working less than a year at my job and just couldn’t swing all three. Looking back on the overall situation 31 years later I should of just gone....sigh...but given the choice, I’d still take Hampton!
    So I did all three Dark Stars in a row last week and I like Hampton best. Jersey is tight, short and sweet, while Miami is a bit ruff until about ten minutes in, but as soon as the vocals are finished its like a hard left turn into amazing groovy psychedelic madness!
    What’s on tap today? Bluecrow brought up 10/19/73, perhaps my favorite DPs and a top Dark Star for sure. Have to fit that in sometime soon, but when I can give it a sit good sit down. Need to finish paint & patch then straighten up the garage so want to hit some 8os acoustic, but I think y’all already went there....going to start the Philly run later as I’ve been trying to give some of these multiple plays, especially the shows I’m not familiar with. But need something short and sweet, perhaps some primal dead just to mix it up?

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    Are The Grateful Dead Mainstream in 1989?
    We’ll see, if this record does really well… - Jerry 10/13/89

    Dug into some supplemental stuff while digging the Nightfall of Diamonds and there’s some pretty interesting things to check out.

    As you all probably know 10/16 is the last night of the Dead’s five night run at Meadowlands, the longest run of the year, with one day off on 10/13/89.

    But 10/13 was not a day of rest for Jerry.
    1. Jerry does an interview for CBS This Morning with Mark McEwen in a NYC Hotel Room. He graciously sits through and thoughtfully answers questions he must’ve had to answer 100s of times over the years, nothing really new or revealing here, but it’s fun to watch & listen to Jerry. The interviewer is total cheese (sorry Mark). Jerry seems a little miffed that the Album hadn’t been released already, and says “It’s pretty good.”

    2. Jerry and Bob appear on David Letterman and play Second That Emotion with Paul Schaffer and band. Odd song choice, last time played 4/29/71. They briefly mention a tour of Russia in May ’90 that obviously never happened. Dave asks “How long will you be there?” Answer “Until they let us out” - Jerry

    There’s also a little 5 minute clip of the Today Show from possibly 10/13 or 14 with Bob & Jerry with Rona Elliot, typical of the time, focuses on the Dead Heads and why the Dead are still touring.

    I believe the Foolish Heart Official Video had been released already, so I watched that too. Interesting.

    And lastly and possibly most telling, Jerry makes an appearance on WNEW on 10/16 and answers questions from callers.
    Fan Question - “You thinking of pulling Dark Star or Death Don’t or any of that out of your hat tonight?”
    Answer - “Probably, those are kinda going into an active rotation.” - Jerry on WNEW 10/16/89

    Fans hearing that, had to be pretty stoked about this final night of the run.

    Anybody got a line on the full WNEW interview?
    I could only find a short excerpt of the questions.
    All the above is on YouTube if you want to check it out.

    I dig this show, not sure I can make a worthwhile comparison to Hampton shows, other than they’re both hot and fun to listen too. But I think I like this set lists’ flow better. Dark Star opening the set seems to keep it light and peppy and then the Playing > UJB > Playing sequence is killer. Great Pre-drums sequence and the post drums return to Dark Star > Attics > Playing and WBYGN encore, I’ll take that any day over Dr. Mr. Fantasy > Throwing > Good Lovin’. Now if they’d only played Death Don’t out of space instead of I Will Take You Home > Miracle..

    I had to check out Miami 10/25 Playing > UJB > Playing after hearing this. Good stuff there too. The Set list heads in the audience of 10/25 had to be holding their breath after that, hopefully they stuck around for the next night. 10/25 is real good. Thinkin’ I’ma gonna spend some time with it today

    For you Tour heads any other stand outs you want to give a shout out for at the Meadowlands? I can’t remember any in particular, you all mentioned digging 10/15?

    I agree with Gollum, it's pretty dope that they've officially released all 3 versions of the return of Dark Star from October. 30 Trips boxset sure was good for filling in some holes.
    Just need the 12/31/89 Dark Star to complete the year officially. '81 & '84 Dark Stars should get that treatment as well IMO. But I guess the tapes are good for now. Speaking of '81, I knew that date was in the cosmos yesterday.. 10/16/81!! How could I not remember that connection.

    I like this 1989 trip... pretty neat.
    Bluecrow I’m with you on the Deadcast, check out the supplemental material, highly illuminating. Sounds like 10/19/73 is getting some play and icecremcnkd you are correct it is entertaining!
    Good stuff you all.

    Be Well and Enjoy Your Weekend.

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    yep Oro, i was with my sweet mountain wildflower, far from the maddening crowds (and the DaP 36 thread.) now back in my cave in the hills. lately been diving in to the Grateful Deadcasts on Workingmans and American Beauty. I'm into that style of deep history and every episode is chock full of cool and crazy stuff. still haven't downloaded the Angel's Share for either but maybe after work today. mention here of that 1st set closing sequence for 10/14/80 piqued my interest. Jed > Let It Grow > Wheel > Music??!! that is simply amazing!!
    My friend's ex (who wasn't a head like him) phoned him (he had moved to AZ) after 10/16/89 to let him know that she heard a Dark Star and that it started to snow in the Meadowlands when they were playing it.
    One of the reigning champions in my corner is 10/19/73 - that'll get a deep listen later this weekend. have to put in some work hours today first.
    have a great weekend everybody.

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    “LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IN THIS CORNER FROM THE YEAR 1972 we have.....“.

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    ....that reminds me. We need to start a bracket system for shows. Ala sports.
    Just a random thought.
    I hope I didn't start something I cant finish.

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    10/15/84 ✔️
    4/24/78 ✔️
    10/16/77 (part of ) ✔️
    10/16/89 ✔️
    RT 2.3 Bonus 😉 ✔️
    My ears are bleeding.....but in a good way!

    Yeah I’d say we’re all on the same page with 10/16 “versus” Hampton.
    10/16 great show, but didn’t move me as much as Hampton either night.

    Manana: I think I’m going to work in those Warfield acoustic shows from last year, start early on Philly 89, and see what pops up here...

    GOLLUM: glad your ok, last we saw ya you were at some rest area on the Jersey pike, “what exit“ I’m not sure...

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    ....ill spell it out because acronyms are for the lazy. FFS.
    The next skull on your necklace is mine.

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    hey Oro! I'm still here. I'm trying to keep up with you guys but dragging ass again. I missed 10/14/80 but will catch up to it soon. I'm still focused on the 4 released Oct '89 shows. It IS hard to pick a fave they are all so good. Hampton has the best sound for my ears. Phil's bass sounds so rich, I can just imagine it rumbling the walls of the Hampton coliseum. I'll say I prefer all of these shows to Spring 90, for the reasons we've talked about. The band sounds less polished and the jams looser and more psychedelic. I have a sneaking suspicion my favorite might wind up being 10/26, with that mind bending 45 minute Dark Star- Space. I'm still getting acquainted with it!

    Ain't it grand that we have all 3 Fall '89 Dark Stars in great sound quality and they are all inspired!

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    Great show. I can't say any of the three we are comparing are better than any of the others. Perhaps we are splitting hairs. I am a bit biased, but that aside NFOD has a better mix.

    What are we listening to tomorrow? I am going to hit DaP 35 again tonight before I probably put it down for a while. Wouldn't mind setting the wayback.. well, way back.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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In process and it has been a while. Sound quality from my perspective is somewhat lacking. Love the Dupree's, It's all over now, good Passenger, Brown Eyed Women. Just finished Eyes, really good. Again, wish the sound quality was better.

Thanks Bolo and Mary!

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Disc one is fun (it's a mix of several shows, me remembers...CR&S is always welcome)
Disc two is sublime. Eyes, Playin' > Wheel > Playin'. I do notice some sound quality issues at times, but they are not horrific and permanent. I remember the Playin' is good as always, and then gets reeeeeeally good
Disc three is phenomenal. As I listened recently, I remember smiling at the glory of the show. Scarlet > Fire, Truckin' > The Other One > Wharf > Around

the Madison show took place about 50 miles north of where l lived at the time. but since I was in 8th grade, I had no clue or awareness of that fact.

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One of my favorites Scarlet>Fire's of all time.... Also love the Samson when after a prolong opening jam Weir does the woohoo type of shout out!! I've posted about the Scarlet>Fire before but there is a Jerry Keith chord interaction after the singing in Scarlet that for me is mind melting!!! Good first choice Bolo... One last ramble, for me this show 2/5/78 is in my mind is the last show of 77... The April tour after this has a different vibe..

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....listened to the first disc last night. Cold Rain, All Over Now, Duprees and BE Woman all top shelf renditions. Man. Iowa got all the good shows. Will start up disc two a little later.
Thats the show with the extended Samson due to Bob's mic difficulties, correct?

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A few momentous stand outs for me: The Music Never Stopped; this version easily made it onto a "best of" compilation early on and has never been supplanted. Fight me. Also, the Estimated > Eyes of so so good. Beautiful elongated Eyes intro, then just mad jamming all the way through, nice upbeat Eyes tempo. Great exploratory Estimated as well. I love the drop into Eyes here; expertly pulled off. The Scarlet > Fire is very awesome too. Long, jammy. Nothing new here, just adding my love.

Nice idea.
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The first thing I noticed is that it features two nights, but unless I am looking in the wrong place, there is no indication which nights which songs are from. I could have checked in Deadbase...but that's upstairs and as I was settled down to listen I didn't bother. It looks like one first and two second sets.

I have just played the first cd so far. Coming from Europe 72, this sounds a lot simpler rhythmically. During Spring 72, you can focus on Bill, Phil, Bob, or Keith - as well as Jerry obviously-and they are all playing with energy and imagination. Here, the focus is more just on Jerry. I like his fiery guitar sound on here, but I am not as keen on Bob's sound. Donna, on the other hand, sounds nice on Looks Like Rain. I prefer this version of Good Lovin to the ones played in 72. It sounds almost calypso-a real celebratory sound.
The cd picks up pace nicely on the last three songs, with great guitar solos from Jerry. It seems a bit more like standard "rock" in a way, compared to the swing they had with one drummer and a fully functioning Keith. I enjoyed listening to it, but I will probably leave the first of the set 2s for tomorrow.

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Not much left to say LLR crackled like a thundercloud!

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....Jerry fresh off his laryngitis. The crackling in his voice during Wharf Rat proves it. His voice was never the same, but still rocks my soul.
Trey Pistachio dropped another song. "Are You There Colleen?". With a message of getting off drugs. Methinks Colleen was his dealer back in the day. Might be wrong. Never right.
I had a dealer back in the day. Name was Chill. Called him from payphones. That was a long time ago though. Thank God.

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At the start of 1978 I'd sort of lost interest in the Dead, having last seen them in 74. 78 was my fifth year in college (yeah I know) and I was way more into jazz than rock in large part due to an awesome jazz club on campus, the Backdoor. The place just had a constant stream of major talent coming through. McCoy Tyner, Charlie Mingus, Elvin Jones, Roland Kirk etc. So in early January I see the Dead are gonna be at Golden Hall so my girlfriend and I say "What the hell?" and I get tickets for 1/07. Now in 78 the Dead were not that big of a draw and I wasn't expecting much, sort of a nostalgia trip. Wrong. They were great, just awesome. So after the show we immediately get tickets for 1/08. These were the Bobby songs only nights but that didn't matter a bit. My girlfriend (now my wife) cried during Looks Like Rain. We were back on the bus until 85 when the arrival of our first kid changed everything. Footnote to that is our last show was a week before his birth and she was major prego and treated like royalty by all you wonderful heads. So I love DP 18 and I especially like the Eugene show release. Stay home.

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Nice! I'm overdue for a listen.

RE: DP18, agree with Jim - Brown-Eyed Women is PERFECT! For that matter, so is TMNS - powerful! And then there's disc 3. If I had to rescue only one single disc from my burning house, this one would be in the running. That Scarlet/Fire is a half-hour blissfest, Truckin' is solid, TOO is insanely good. Masterful music!

On to Wichita!

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....has metal influences. Garcia tapping into his inner Iommi. My ear told me so.
Wichita this soon into the game? Bold move Cotton. Let's see how it pans out.

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Love the Dodge Ball reference!!

funny how they didn't list out what shows the songs are from. even funnier, the songs in Disc 1 are actually from 3 shows - Its All Over Now and Duprees are from 2/4/78 Milwaukee! The Wikipedia entry for DP 18 lays it out if you're interested. Deadbase IX also lists a soundcheck of Ripple x3 in Milwaukee - what the heck is that??!!

As others have noted, among many highlights a great Music Never Stopped and Eyes of the World from 2/3 - love the super long intro to Eyes, it reminds me of a post-hiatus favorite, 6/8/77. They Love Each Other is fantastic. The 2nd set from 2/5 is just wild. Such a raw sound to the Wolf! Would love to see released the Uptown shows that immediately proceed this. Worth noting how rare The Wheel was at this time - 2/3 was first time played since mid fall '77, another year until played again on 2/17/79 (Keith & Donna's last show), and then another year and a half before it finally re-entered regular rotation.

A couple technical notes - based on Dick's Caveat Emptor, 2/3 appears to have been recorded at a slower tape speed (7.5 ips vs. 15), and so the sound quality is a bit rougher. Also, IIRC, there is an unpatched gap (sad face) in the jam between verses 2 and 3 in Eyes of the World. There's a very nice audience of 2/3 on the Archive if anyone wants to hear that.

Now on to Wichita!!

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After listening to almost 4 hours of insanely wonderful music, the overriding conclusion is that, in my opinion, NO ONE can play guitar like Garcia did. At times subtle and nuanced, at other times raging, but always just exactly perfect within the context of the song they were playing. Remarkable, really. Feeling blessed to have experienced GD/JGB live so many times.

Garcia may not be the "best" guitarist (highly subjective, as most of those inane "best of" polls demonstrate), but he is the only guitarist I can listen to every day. That includes Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Gilmore and whoever else you want to throw in there.

It's grate to be a Deadhead!!

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You're a harsh taskmaster! Listening to Grateful Dead concerts will continue until morale improves.

Bluecrow - thanks for the tip. There were a couple of compilations that came out in the 1990s that featured songs from multiple shows, but didn't indicate in the sleeve notes which song came from which show. Ladies and Gentlemen from April 1971 and Dozin' at the Knick from Spring 1990 were two others.

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Agree 100% with your comments on Jerry, what a genius! The whole band was.

Just finishing up Dave's 11 now. Comments to follow.

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Dooo, just listened to that last week, for first time, so maybe we’ll sneak another round in after this 71 grease fest we’ve got going on today .....fall 72 is def fo shizzle....

EDIt: MHAMMOND12...whoa. I’m not sure what’s more impressive, seeing the laryngitis shows or all that top shelf jazz in a club setting???

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Dicks picks vol 21 , not the main show the extras , Iko iko > morning dew > sugar magnolia . Absolutely sublime , and without doubt one of the best dew’s 😸

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I shouldn't really call the Backdoor a club. It was an empty room on the ground floor of the Student Union and Performing Arts building on campus that the A.S. booking people converted into a small concert venue. Just a stage and corked walls. No seats. No refreshments. Bring your own. The talent that appeared there was unbelievable looking back. Freddie King. John Lee Hooker. Two memories...sitting under McCoy Tyner and watching his right sock working its way down past his ankle has he stomped his foot keeping constant time...Roland Kirk playing the flute with his nose, playing three saxophones at once, playing the piano with his elbows and head, and careening around the room playing saxophone being led by his handler (Rahsaan was blind you know) who had an air raid siren he would blow off in your face if you didn't get out of the way fast enough. And none of this seemed like a gimmick. Bright moments indeed.

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This show and bonus tracks from Oklahoma City is definitely top stuff. Sound quality is A+. A great Bear recording! Man, he did great work.
The whole show flows nicely, although not a long second set. Love the Sugaree, Bird Song is awesome, Jack Straw, Box of Rain! Come on. Casey Jones to close the first set and than open with Cumberland. Great Truckin Other One, very unique Other One. Always loved Brokedown Palace and this one they play flawlessly.

I will throw out 12/28/79 Road Trips 3.1??

Let me know Gents.

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I like the post-space UJB and Bertha on that one a lot mainly for Brent's harmonies. Overall a classic pick with a lot to like. I might give DP5 (12/26/79) the edge however. That pick is hefty.

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Listened to both Dave Picks 11, 11/17/72, and Europe 72, 04/07/72, as assigned by Bolo. Dave's Picks 11 is one of my favorite releases. Great recording by Owsley improved by the treatment of Mr. Norman. Has an incredible Bird Song. Just a wonderful release.

Europe 72, 04/07/72 Wembley just blows it away. Leaves a smoking crater where Wichita used to be. Europe 72 can not be bettered.

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This one has a nice slow relaxed build up with some ripping Jerry. TOO than blows the roof off! The only TOO>Brokedown Palace. End of set 2 all great. A perfect prelude to the next to nights.

ps. 4/7 Rips the paint off the walls from the first note. No contest.

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Okay Bolo, what are your thoughts?
Next show for today?

I suggested 12/28/79. RT3.1

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I’m down, right after my John Prine compilation

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I relocated last week and since that time I have been unpacking as much as I can and maintaining my workload from home. So I have been out of commission here for a while. I came across this pick of the day and I am all for it.

Just to throw a show out there ( not for today) but how about 9/8/73? I have never heard it but Dick Latvala spoke highly of it. It might be nice to give it a listen.

Meanwhile it looks RT 3.1 will it be for today. Maybe I will add 4/8/72 as well.

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Nice - been a while since that one hit my headphones.

MHammond gets a gold star. But what did you listen to AFTER lunch?

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I was at this show, it was a blast! Sugaree, High Time, The Music Never Stopped, this show was great from start to finish. This show sounds so much better then Dave's Picks 31 from just a .sound point of view. Yeah, this show was a hell of a lot of fun!

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Sugaree lovely, the rest of the set is okay Music rocks! Set 2 Alabama grooving, GSET explosive!, Terrapin super sweet jam, PITB end jam is sick!, UJB outta drums/space yes!, short Miracle, Bertha>Good Love, CJ , OMSN rockin!

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....on it. (I'm the tour buddy still in the car doing bong rips as y'all are heading to the gate.)

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1983/09/10
Santa Fe Downs. Give me this. But for Friday. I'm working tomorrow, but off Friday.
I've stood at Santa Fe Downs and looked east. The view is spectacular.
Whats all the hubbub, bub?
It's got a Music opener and a Cold Rain encore. Warts and all.
Things are strange outside. Bird Songs all day.
edit. Found something!!
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/grateful-dead-jerry-garcia-favourite-song/
Spoiler alert. Row Jimmy. Also a favorite of Bill The Drummer. It was playing as I read it (12.28.79. Disc one. Track four).
I still don't believe in coincidences.

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DaP11: Last half of disc two - the whole He’s Gone thru BDP is incredible

Just starting RT3.1 now , if the first song is any indication of this night, I’m in for something special!

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Hendrix Freak threw this one out a couple days ago but yall were onto something else.....it got me thinking about some primal dead, and haven’t had a good 68 fix for a bit....So Wadaya say Laddys?

MHammond: RT 3.1, nice pick. Started to go through the 79 stuff when DaP 31 came out but didn’t make it, rember liking this one more than 31, and yesterday confirmed that. Really need to get to DP 5 from 12/26, it’s been so long for that one. Maybe this weekend I’ll roll that?

VGUY: I’m down with some Santa Fe tomorrow. Heard about this one for years but don’t think I’ve ever checked it out. Plus 83 would be a nice change up here....

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12/28/79! Is this the best RT release? Maybe, certainly the best 79 release from the Vault so far. Betty did another excellent job here.
I like this release more and more every time I listen to it. Sound quality is A+.Sugaree opener! Different feel to this show without Keith and Donna, but I dig it. Brent's keyboards really shine. Really good flowing Terrapin, Playing, UJB. The show closers are fun and groovy. Makes me want to get up and dance.
And then there is the bonus disc, from 12/30/79. 10 additional songs of bliss. Scarlet Fire, Let it Grow, Truckin! Sweet.

Would love to see more 79 and of course 80. The early Brent years! I know the Chicago release didn't match this release but 79 has a lot to offer.
Yesterday I also listened to 9/1/79. Not an official release, but again great 79 sound.
If you have not heard it, check it out.

Looking forward to our next pick. Let us know!

I can't take credit for that pick. I'm trying the Europe 72 night by night thing and I'm already behind.

Playing now.
Is that today’s pick?

First got this on cassette in mid-90’s and loved it right away. Then got a CD-R copy. Was really happy to get it as a commercially released CD.

This show needs a Plangentized/Normanized remaster 180g vinyl record store day release.

Edit:
Looks like I’m a day behind. No worries, I’ll catch up.

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Good to have you kid.

Bolo, what are your thoughts on the last pick. Sounds like the crowd is feeling Dick's 22 for today/ tonight. I will have to sit this one out as I don't have this one. Looking forward to tomorrow's choice.
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