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    Obeah - here's an edited/slightly reworked version of what I posted on another forum years ago. I'd go for the GEMS SBD remaster (152924). Not as jammed out as some '74 but there is some really and truly, very fine, music here (sound of Oro's foot tapping.) The Dark Star jam is unlike any out there and I really really dig it.

    Ca. 1997/98 – I was living in a small desert town. First worked here summer of ’95 and it was here that I first learned of Jerry’s passing (and still here 25+ years later). Jim, a long time resident (moved away years ago) and fellow Deadhead (saw Vegas Ice Palace ’69 I think) mentioned that a friend had come through town and left a list of tapes he had to trade/share. The friend was a river runner out of Flagstaff, would be back through town in a week or so. Jim invited me to take a look at the list and see if there was anything I wanted. It was a short list – all that I remember at this point is that it had the International Amphitheatre show, 7/25/74, complete show, an audience rated at C-. The show was unknown to me and, as a favorite year and a Chicago boy at heart (born and raised north suburbs), I asked for that one.

    One night a little while later the river runner friend came back through town. I remember standing outside in the summer dark talking to him for maybe 10-20 minutes, he only stopped to drop off tapes. It turned out that he had taped the show himself and it was the only show he ever taped. A cheap deck with the microphones hanging over the balcony railing (IIRC). He had talked to Phil outside the back door before the show and Phil had big time dosed him. Said that Phil sat on a stool for part of the show. He got all wide-eyed with nostalgic awe when he recalled the Ship of Fools encore – clearly the song had been a major religious experience. I think he handed me his masters to make a copy (or maybe he just dropped off a copy?), saying he would pick them up from our mutual friend on the way back through town. Don’t recall his name and never saw him again.

    Listening to the tapes you felt like you were way in the back of a cavernous space. To me, C- was possibly a generous grade, but with a pair of cheap headphones (all my gear was cheap at the time) - listening in the dark in the middle of the high desert night - you could be there, and for a poor boy in the backwoods of tapes it was a cool listen. I dubbed a couple of copies and sent one to Jeff, a close friend, who was back in the Chicago area – at the time he was managing Dr. Wax (a chain of several used record/CD stores/Jeff also founded and ran a niche record label Quinnah Records) A little while later Jeff calls me, all excited. “Where did you get this?? This is the only known recording of this show currently in circulation!!!” Circulation was a relative term in this case. Turns out Jeff had reached out/was in contact with the gentlemen who were putting together the first Tapers Compendium and, connected as they were, they knew of no other recordings of this show. The Compendium folks wanted him to review the tapes/show for the Compendium, but in the end it was too late because the book had just gone into galley(?) and it was too much trouble to revise it. This is the only ’74 show not reviewed/completely missing from the first edition Tapers Compendium Vol I.

    A bunch of high-end traders contacted Jeff requesting copies. When Jeff asked one what his opinion of the tapes were, the gentleman replied that it was pretty rough and that basically it was for completists only, but of course it had a heretofore uncirculated Dark Star with a Slipknot tease, which was everything you needed to know right there. This may have been at the time the only uncirculated Dark Star post-1970. Another commented that he thought he knew the person who might have the soundboard reels (or copies of them) but that they were holding them close. The SBD recording finally entered public circulation a few years later and Dave Lemieux (I raise a toast, or two or three, or more, in his honor) has featured portions of this show a time or three, I think, in the Jam of the Week and/or the Tapers Section/and 30 days of the Dead. So the masters are in the vault. The audience has never been uploaded to the archive.

    It makes me smile that this show first resurfaced from the depths of time (relatively speaking) in this dusty, high desert, town.

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    1972 was some great concerts in some out-of-the way places

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    Rise and shine lil Pedro
    Bfast in bed wiff the GD

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    Disc 4 of "Unlabled 1968 GD"

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    The SS is a very early version

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    Theres info about this on e t r e e

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    ...a small bit of squawking or is it squonking...someone recently mentioned Ornette Coleman with the Boys in 1993...anyway PHILA 1973 SEPT 21 Set 2 should fill the jones with guests Martin Fiero & Joe Ellis

    Peace for All!
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    7 19 90

    I was listening to 7 18 90 earlier today and it just felt "meh".

    7 19 90 already has a springy bouncy energy 2nd song in.

    Very interesting

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    Sounds good.

    The show could be cleaned up and included in next year’s 30TATS -The Sequel Box.

    Yes Crow, I enjoyed 7-25-74.
    And I just finished playing 5-14-74 in the car (took a few days). Definitely a step up from 5-12-74.

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    9/14/74 plus

    Plus omg, 9/11/74. Had not HEARD this one complete before, Doah!
    Felt like it was the most consistent overall of the three nights? and has another sweet 74 PITB, but the P&N through Rat sequence…OMG, tiss the shite mate!
    If you haven’t heard, and like big weirdness ala 72/73, you MUST check out at least from PITB onward…through the fog!

    7/25/74. OBEAH, ole Bluecrow always be giving us the goodness!
    And 5/14, one of my favs of the year, 74 DS, come on…scary moons 😳

    BC, Betting you’ve heard about 51, so other than that, I’d say you missed nothing ; )
    I too, waiting impatiently for 7/25….hear sound of foot tapping…

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Good job Uncle.
Last night I gave 6-17-91 vinyl a spin.

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I have the single 180 g LP. I see that Experience Vinyl has the whole show on 3 LP’s, but it doesn’t specify that they are 180 g, and they’re overpriced.

The complete Leeds on CD is in short supply and also overpriced.

I have the single CD that doesn’t have Tommy.

Not to worry, the Hull CD I ordered arrived today. It has a Tommy.

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I don't really listen to The Who so much these days, but the Live at Leeds and Hull shows seem really similar to me. In fact, they famously took the bass part out of a song from the Leeds show and attached it to one from Hull. The playing was so similar on the two nights that it slipped in seamlessly. I think" Heaven and Hell" was the track they did this on.
The original album - Live at Leeds, was marketed as being a bit like a bootleg at the time - if I remember rightly. No overdubs, and all sorts of clicks and buzzes included. As opposed to other live albums from the time - like "Get Yer Ya Ya's Out" which were heavily dubbed and doctored after the event. It was also fairly unique in featuring just one show, rather than being a compilation of songs from different shows on a given tour.

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...I've had enough...
followed my blues on down to The Scope, Norfolk, VA 1982-04-03...she LOVES that SPRING '82 more than me!
and NOW your man is GONE!

Peace All!
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Wow! The sound is so bright and clear. 16 track Betty, Rex recording. 1-23-73 with Merl Saunders, Kahn, Vitt, Sarah Fulcher at The Boarding House. Very funky cool. Cranking it up is required.
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Edit: Sarah Fulcher is amazing. At first I thought it was Marcy Levy, singer with Clapton and many others.

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Hey everyone! My current fav show is 10/3/80. It is just a solid show! Everyone should check it out on Relisten!

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...Spring '82, how could I NOT go down that road; 1982-04-18 HARTFORD II,...run me out in the COLD RAIN & did someone say SNOW!

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...BACKWARDS today, at the Warfield 1982-02-17, let's CUE it UP and let's GO

Peace All!
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Two cool shows that would make a great official release. My brother and I went to both these shows.

Daverock, can only agree, almost a mirror image (Tommy reference!). For hard core fans, Keith Moon drumming at Hull offers a little extra.

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Dmcvt - I always reach for the Hull show before the Leeds one - maybe it's the power of the drumming that edges it. In fact, that is The Who album I play now if I play one. Must have been amazing to see them around that time.

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jam of the week is 10/3/1980 Warfield, uncirculating SBD Set II open - you seem to have somebody's ear gg77!!

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Hey rockers!!

Believe it or not, I'm here at my office working on autopsy reports and listening to early Jethro Tull. I may have fallen and hit my head earlier in the morgue...............

I haven't understood a bar of music in my life, but I have felt it...........

Doc
Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.....

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Glad you enjoyed the show! I love the Dire Wolf opener, the Row Jimmy, and the range of songs is just great!

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...you're moving much too slow; YES, landing today in "balwmer" 1982-04-19 [identifier #144567 on the Archive] and continuing with my BAKER'S dozen for 1982 (so far 5/23, 4/3, 4/18 II, 2/17, and this weekend WOW UC Davis 3/14 luv it); a HUGE THNX to Mr Healy for the SUPER sounding board recordings of 1982!

Friend comes by,
says he's looking for his hat...
Come on pretty momma let's get on the road again!!!

EVERYONE have a PEACEFUL day!
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JUST FINISHED LISTENING TO BALTIMORE APRIL 19 1982! if you don't know this show you need to check it OUT; it's the LAST NIGHT of SPRING '82, just LISTEN!
I don't believe in PRAISE for what I maybe hear as highlights, it's really up to you the listener, but a SOLID yes to
PEGGY-O
CASSIDY
ROSES
CUMBERLAND!
SET 2
enough said!

thanks to my buddy, Pauley, for introducing me to 1982-04-19 (oh yes, I still have the cassette of the 2nd set dubbed with buds back in summer 1987)

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phil ruth go to the business office...and everybody's dancin'...and the band keeps playin' on, TMNS! alpine valley 1982-08-07 [diP #32]

peace all!
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My 6th show of exactly 50. without question one of the most important and special nights of music in my days on earth. myth time beauty. if the thunder don't get you the lightning will.

listening to 7/19/90 Deer Creek DaP 40 - np Desolation Row

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...many of you have never been late to a Rock n Roll show? [Bobby asks this question to the crowd when he is ready to start this show tonight]
...and so begins my return to SPRING '82 this morning with GLENS FALLS Civic 1982-04-14 streamin' on the archive identifier #7629, after a quick detour over to Alpine yesterday; YES, and a stand-out WHEEL as BLUECROW aptly notes {it appears alpine was your GO TO venue, very COOL!}

PEACE ALL!
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This is a personal favorite of mine. Love the China Rider, Deep Elem.
A lot of great shows in 82.

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...found some real gems in Glens Falls as DEADVIKES mentions check-out the china>rider and of course "Oh, sweet mama, your daddy's got them deep elem blues". I found the lazy>supplication fantastic as well as PITB! this was my 1st-ever listen and I'll def return.

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...about upstate NY and the intensity of the GD shows thru the years, and so I'm not leaving NY today, but heading west to Rochester 1982-04-09 streamin' on the archive #107054, and this will be another 1st-ever listen. just moving into DIRE WOLF with a big smilin' on my face because it is a rarity for 1982...stay tuned

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I am seeing a lot of chatter about '82 shows lately. I think I may have to get more methodical in my listening, and just devote some sustained listening to this year.

Back in the day, I had plenty of tapes from early Brent era (79-81) but I had nothing from 83, and for 1982 I just had 7/31 and 8/1. Great shows both, and I loved playing them, but somehow I never caught the 1982 bug. 1982 for me is like a history lesson that I've memorized for the test, you know, what happened on this day in '82 (edit: I was trying to say more about this but just kept getting hey now'd)

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was just a baby, my mama told me, Son...but I shot a man in RENO just to watch him die. And my interest has been piqued about this "dear prudence" tease... I was fortunate to see JGB perform "dear prudence" 2X at the Tower Theater {10/31/1981 & 6/27/1982} and so NOW I'm off to RENO 2nd Set 1982-03-13 [archive identifier #112858]

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so my treasure chest has about 30 shows on cassette from 1982, BUT 28 of them are ALL from July-December [yeah Austin & Zoo were in there too] and so I started wondering what did I miss during the Spring Tour and 1st half of the year, and apparently ALOT. I did attend the 1982-04-5 philly show, and how I luv'd that deep elem, but I missed purchasing the '82 RT 4.4 release due to 2 youngin's and budgeting constraints (lol such is life!) dig-in to the 1st half, it's tasty, and listening to those early try-outs from "in the dark" are not being performed

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...finished-UP that RENO 2nd set; well, it's a DEF a tease, but hardly a JAM that dear prudence, so listening carefully is required because it's quick; glad I went and checked-it-out, got another other one and black peter, they're probably 2 of the 3 [women smarter] most played tunes in '82...and I'm always a sucker for WELL the music's THUNDERIN' feel like a >franklin's scorchin' HOT, so check-it-out. thnx BILLYTHEKIDDD

NEXT movin' on to 1982-04-08 Set 2 SYRACUSE which will be another 1st-ever listen for me, streaming on the archive identifier #109567; this is SHOW #11 of my 1982 baker's dozen. everyone ENJOY your weekend. rock HARD!

Peace All!
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I really liked the Frost shows from 1982, that was my favorite year at the Frost. The 1982 Ventura shows were a blast. I don't know if you have listened to these shows yet, if not you might enjoy them.
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Stand Back! Here Comes Charlie Musselwhite's South Side Band.

Headed down the rabbit hole of Cristo Redentor/Christo Redentor - (Musselwhite uses the second spelling). Cause just found out that it was one of Musslewhite's signature tunes. And it's on this, his debut album, with Harvey Mandel on guitar.

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Great record. He plays Christo Redemptor at every show. There is a longer version on his album Tenesee Woman.

BTK - That sure is a great album. Not sure how its escaped my attention all these years. And Cristo Redentor is a truly beautiful song that also somehow was under the radar up until I keyed into the Harvey Mandel album. That extended version of Christo Redentor on Tennessee Woman is really really fine. Wish the version on Stand Back was jammed out like that - it fades while Mandel is laying down some real fine guitar that you know could keep on going. I'll have to track down some live versions. Went back to the source towards the end of the evening - the original version (I think) on Donald Byrd 's lp A New Perspective. Wow. Fun little rabbit hole.

edit - and for the record capcha was way way difficult this morning compared to normal but once i ran that gauntlet I didn't get the HN beat down which was a very much a surprise

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...at IT, and IT will be...1982-04-06 PHL spectrum [archive/ #105237] it'll be really interesting to hear this SHOW as it was RELEASED, and how it measures-up to the PREVIOUS eleven which are now behind me; be COOL everyone!

Peace All!
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...of 61 performances in1982. ENDING this baker's dozen w/ the 1982-05-22 GREEK [archive/ #165132] another 1st-ever LISTEN, and excited to be able to stream it.

yesterday's spectrum APRIL 6th show had a notable OTHER ONE [albeit 2nd verse only] less than a crazy three mins. and very very enjoyable DEW (one of only 8 in '82)

peace all!
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...starts today in St Louis with 1972-10-18 [don't have LTTR Box Set] so will be streaming on the archive #13925, sure is gonna be a different vibe after two weeks of listening to 1982 AND looking forward to it; LETS ROCK!

peace all!
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...forever TUNING, AND after reading the post this morning of "Blair's Golden Road blog" DARK STAR crashes...[and there is a HUGE need to hear it today; 1972-11-19 HOFHEINZ Pavilion will fit the bill just fine (streamin' on the archive identifier #123577)]

...pouring its light into ashes
Reason tatters

peace and kindness for ALL
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FALL 1972!...today is stanley theater in JERSEY CITY 1972-09-26, and we're ON with this SHOW!

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...yeah it's #3 out of 4 weekends, BUT a great opportunity to continue diving deeper into FALL '72! ready to LAUNCH 1972-11-22 Set 2 AUSTIN

peace all!
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...after yesterday's massive rains lead me BACK to the stanley theater 1972-09-28, an AUD patch for TRUCKIN' starts this show off, but JG has indicated this is going to be another HOT night in JERSEY CITY...onward :)
everyone have a wonderful day
peace!
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IT FOR...Fall '72 with 1972-09-09 [daP 46 at the hollywood palladium] which ends a quick 6 show listening party...THE OTHER ONE!

peace today and EVERY DAY!
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I thought I'd give 3/14/90 a spin over the weekend, from "The Other One" box set. A few years since I've listened to a show of this vintage, and it was a pleasant surprise. So much so, that I'm now half way through the next show in the box 3/18/90.

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...THE ROAD...18 years to...[yes DAVEROCK has the ESP lol!]...beginning a NEW TOUR today with the 2nd SETS from 1990-03-15 CAP Center and 1990-03-24 KNICKerBOCKer ( my DH buddies and I got shut-out by GDTS for BOTH albany & atlanta; and it did HURT! ) my early TOUR synopsis has the potential for 8 SHOWS, but this wheel is on fire!

peace ALL!
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Did that Dozin' at the Knick yesterday and was amazed how good it was. That 3-24-90 show has to rival ones from any era! What a setlist too.
Cheers

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Uncle Tripel-so you were actually there - almost. Hopefully you got into some of the other shows on this tour.
It does enhance an era if you don't play anything from it for a while. Not that I'm going to attempt it with 1972 or anything.

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So I brought Dick's Picks 14 to work today (Latvala!) but then I had the urge to listen to 12/1/73. Anyone remember when David Gans played some of this night?

My tape of GDH #217 survives after 31+ years! I had to go look up the airdate - 'twas the week of 11/16/92. Contained within is some of the finest banter you'll ever hear. The "Clear the Aisles" song(s) are amazing - at least in retrospect - I mean, obv no one in the band was amazed at having to go on "this lame trip"...

In the foreward/intro for his book, Improvised Lives, Gans wrote that he thought the GDH would end after Garcia died. Show #361 aired in August '95 and contained the memorial at Golden Gate Park. But now we're at GDH #1853. That's nearly 1500 shows later. Gans is doing his level best to play as many Grateful Dead Hours as there were Grateful Dead shows! #ht

Haven't listened to this show in forever. Gifted a ticket day before in Chaco. It was hotter than Hades in the low desert in August (my first time down there) and thought my tires would melt as I drove into town. Ultramatrix circulates for Set I only and it sounds sweet. Edit - There's an in-house FM source for Set II.

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Sweat lodge!
Right after R.R. and T-ride in the cool Colorado air (rain).
Cheers
Thx BC, will check that one out.

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...the sun will shine in my back door EVERY day...with 1990-03-26 albany today, love this show!
would have liked to add additional comments but, like, you know, THEY'RE BACK AT THEIR COMPLIANCE B.S.

peace all!
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August 13, 1975.
Went to find this after PF and BTK referenced it on the Mars Hotel thread and found I only have a 90 min. tape that cuts off the Blues For Allah at the end. Doh! What was I thinkin'? Taped it in 1993 and obviously had no idea how rare performances of that song are. Only 5 times, all in 1975. Loved the wiki story about Mickey's live crickets in the basement with a microphone.
Cheers
Edit - How did I not get HNd when this AM nothing got through. So dang random.