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  • proudfoot
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    That MD is the slowest ever to the point of almost unlistenability

    9 18 74 was one of the first shows I got on cassette way back in the day

    Gotta hear that one again soon

    Also 9 21 74
    On archive many people point out that Weir is either really low in the mix or not in the mix at all

    Now you know

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    :)))

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    RE: 9/21/74 Dew

    It’s very unusual PF…perhaps the quietest Dew I’ve heard?
    Thought it was real Lysergic at first with the unparalleled gentle dynamics, but then they just sorta end it, thereby not achieving the liftoff and the powerful other end of the dynamic spectrum you’d expect.
    Meaning, if they’d added a more normal, big finale, loud and powerful ending, to such a delicate little prelude, we might be trash talking goat lol.
    But it just doesn’t really take flight, like JG was too high and all of a sudden after 15 minutes, wanted it to be over. Very unusual and interesting…
    Whole tour was different.
    Big difference in the Piano audio from 5/12 until 9/21. Much better.
    Pretty decent show and audio, except Bob is extremely low in the mix.
    Plenty of Phil though lol
    Ok, onward to 7/12/89!

    Edit: Chula Rocks!

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    Obeah - glad you liked the story. Recounting it all these years later has me thinking I need to try and track down the mystery taper. I'll report back (it may be awhile.) Despite my Chicago area roots and a love of history, I must admit that the history associated with the International Amphitheatre is not something I was familiar with. I was in grade school at the time Pigasus the Immortal was nominated and have no memory of the '68 Convention nor had I ever heard of Pigasus until now. Looks like the Pigasus nomination took place at another locale in the city (Chicago Civic Center later known as Richard J Daley Center, which is how I knew it later). A close friend's older brother was a class of '68 valedictorian (I think) in HS along front range and won a trip to attend the '68 Dem Convention. Total straight arrow guy. Came back shocked and completely changed by what he saw and went full counterculture.

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    thanks Bluecrow / Unusual Occurences in the Desert

    I really appreciate you taking the time to share that story esp since it's not the first time. You told it in a very evocative way, too. Personally I've never lived in a high desert town but I grew up in SoCal near enough to the Antelope Valley to have visited regularly, so at least I have a feel for the flavor. So that story really resonated. And as to questionable AUDs, well, I'm a sucker for 11-11-1970, as I've expressed elsewhere, so that just adds to the mystique. All the more so when there's no other way to take that ride (I'd like to have it one more time...)

    I checked and don't have 7/25 in my collection so I will indeed go and find that GEMS version. Thanks for the tip.

    I had to go look up the Chicago Int'l Amphitheater. Never realized it figured in some notable events of 1968 including the 'Pigasus' incident. I went and looked at some photos of the venue, checked out its histoyr, and it reminded me a bit of the Cow Palace in SF due to the showing of livestock. I wonder just how many ice rinks were venues for the Grateful Dead over the years...

    Anyway thanks again. I meant to reply sooner but got busy late Wednesday night posting about that '70 Brooklyn Bowl show, and then despite yesterday being the 50th anniversary of the 7/25/74 show, I was unexpectedly too busy to get over here to post.

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    Chula Vista BABY!

    got up this morning with a hankerin' for some 1985, 3 seconds later, oh yeah...
    September 15th @ Devore Field

    west L.A. fade away,
    here's one chance you say
    she tries to live by the golden rule
    said you TREAT other people RIGHT
    people probably treat you COOL

    enjoy your weekend if you can, and...
    treat other people right!

    Peace for All
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    Grease is the only cure for a hangover.......

    Morning rockers, happy Friday!!!

    Right now? Princeton, April 17 1971. Why? C'mon!!! Pigpen. Greasy is as greasy does.

    Man - life in general - seems irrelevant to the workings of the universe: a mere smudge of water, grease, and carbon on a pinpoint planet circling a star of no special consequence.....

    Rock on!!

    Doc
    Embrace the grease, if any, and look fresh and human........
    P.S. Still waiting on 51.............

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    Winterland

  • proudfoot
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    Please post what your opinion is of the show's Morning Dew, Oro

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    on recent long drive to/from project area, the 2 shows that really stood out in road music were DiP 19 - 10/19/73 Oklahoma City Fairgrounds and 10/16/89 (Nightfall of Diamonds, Meadowlands). Disc 3 from 10/19 is one of my favorites of anything released to date. I love love love the Dark Star > Mind Left Body Jam!!

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Good job Uncle.
Last night I gave 6-17-91 vinyl a spin.

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I have the single 180 g LP. I see that Experience Vinyl has the whole show on 3 LP’s, but it doesn’t specify that they are 180 g, and they’re overpriced.

The complete Leeds on CD is in short supply and also overpriced.

I have the single CD that doesn’t have Tommy.

Not to worry, the Hull CD I ordered arrived today. It has a Tommy.

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I don't really listen to The Who so much these days, but the Live at Leeds and Hull shows seem really similar to me. In fact, they famously took the bass part out of a song from the Leeds show and attached it to one from Hull. The playing was so similar on the two nights that it slipped in seamlessly. I think" Heaven and Hell" was the track they did this on.
The original album - Live at Leeds, was marketed as being a bit like a bootleg at the time - if I remember rightly. No overdubs, and all sorts of clicks and buzzes included. As opposed to other live albums from the time - like "Get Yer Ya Ya's Out" which were heavily dubbed and doctored after the event. It was also fairly unique in featuring just one show, rather than being a compilation of songs from different shows on a given tour.

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...I've had enough...
followed my blues on down to The Scope, Norfolk, VA 1982-04-03...she LOVES that SPRING '82 more than me!
and NOW your man is GONE!

Peace All!
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Wow! The sound is so bright and clear. 16 track Betty, Rex recording. 1-23-73 with Merl Saunders, Kahn, Vitt, Sarah Fulcher at The Boarding House. Very funky cool. Cranking it up is required.
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Edit: Sarah Fulcher is amazing. At first I thought it was Marcy Levy, singer with Clapton and many others.

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Hey everyone! My current fav show is 10/3/80. It is just a solid show! Everyone should check it out on Relisten!

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...Spring '82, how could I NOT go down that road; 1982-04-18 HARTFORD II,...run me out in the COLD RAIN & did someone say SNOW!

Peace All!
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...BACKWARDS today, at the Warfield 1982-02-17, let's CUE it UP and let's GO

Peace All!
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Two cool shows that would make a great official release. My brother and I went to both these shows.

Daverock, can only agree, almost a mirror image (Tommy reference!). For hard core fans, Keith Moon drumming at Hull offers a little extra.

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Dmcvt - I always reach for the Hull show before the Leeds one - maybe it's the power of the drumming that edges it. In fact, that is The Who album I play now if I play one. Must have been amazing to see them around that time.

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jam of the week is 10/3/1980 Warfield, uncirculating SBD Set II open - you seem to have somebody's ear gg77!!

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Hey rockers!!

Believe it or not, I'm here at my office working on autopsy reports and listening to early Jethro Tull. I may have fallen and hit my head earlier in the morgue...............

I haven't understood a bar of music in my life, but I have felt it...........

Doc
Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.....

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Glad you enjoyed the show! I love the Dire Wolf opener, the Row Jimmy, and the range of songs is just great!

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...you're moving much too slow; YES, landing today in "balwmer" 1982-04-19 [identifier #144567 on the Archive] and continuing with my BAKER'S dozen for 1982 (so far 5/23, 4/3, 4/18 II, 2/17, and this weekend WOW UC Davis 3/14 luv it); a HUGE THNX to Mr Healy for the SUPER sounding board recordings of 1982!

Friend comes by,
says he's looking for his hat...
Come on pretty momma let's get on the road again!!!

EVERYONE have a PEACEFUL day!
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JUST FINISHED LISTENING TO BALTIMORE APRIL 19 1982! if you don't know this show you need to check it OUT; it's the LAST NIGHT of SPRING '82, just LISTEN!
I don't believe in PRAISE for what I maybe hear as highlights, it's really up to you the listener, but a SOLID yes to
PEGGY-O
CASSIDY
ROSES
CUMBERLAND!
SET 2
enough said!

thanks to my buddy, Pauley, for introducing me to 1982-04-19 (oh yes, I still have the cassette of the 2nd set dubbed with buds back in summer 1987)

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phil ruth go to the business office...and everybody's dancin'...and the band keeps playin' on, TMNS! alpine valley 1982-08-07 [diP #32]

peace all!
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My 6th show of exactly 50. without question one of the most important and special nights of music in my days on earth. myth time beauty. if the thunder don't get you the lightning will.

listening to 7/19/90 Deer Creek DaP 40 - np Desolation Row

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...many of you have never been late to a Rock n Roll show? [Bobby asks this question to the crowd when he is ready to start this show tonight]
...and so begins my return to SPRING '82 this morning with GLENS FALLS Civic 1982-04-14 streamin' on the archive identifier #7629, after a quick detour over to Alpine yesterday; YES, and a stand-out WHEEL as BLUECROW aptly notes {it appears alpine was your GO TO venue, very COOL!}

PEACE ALL!
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This is a personal favorite of mine. Love the China Rider, Deep Elem.
A lot of great shows in 82.

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...found some real gems in Glens Falls as DEADVIKES mentions check-out the china>rider and of course "Oh, sweet mama, your daddy's got them deep elem blues". I found the lazy>supplication fantastic as well as PITB! this was my 1st-ever listen and I'll def return.

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...about upstate NY and the intensity of the GD shows thru the years, and so I'm not leaving NY today, but heading west to Rochester 1982-04-09 streamin' on the archive #107054, and this will be another 1st-ever listen. just moving into DIRE WOLF with a big smilin' on my face because it is a rarity for 1982...stay tuned

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I am seeing a lot of chatter about '82 shows lately. I think I may have to get more methodical in my listening, and just devote some sustained listening to this year.

Back in the day, I had plenty of tapes from early Brent era (79-81) but I had nothing from 83, and for 1982 I just had 7/31 and 8/1. Great shows both, and I loved playing them, but somehow I never caught the 1982 bug. 1982 for me is like a history lesson that I've memorized for the test, you know, what happened on this day in '82 (edit: I was trying to say more about this but just kept getting hey now'd)

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was just a baby, my mama told me, Son...but I shot a man in RENO just to watch him die. And my interest has been piqued about this "dear prudence" tease... I was fortunate to see JGB perform "dear prudence" 2X at the Tower Theater {10/31/1981 & 6/27/1982} and so NOW I'm off to RENO 2nd Set 1982-03-13 [archive identifier #112858]

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so my treasure chest has about 30 shows on cassette from 1982, BUT 28 of them are ALL from July-December [yeah Austin & Zoo were in there too] and so I started wondering what did I miss during the Spring Tour and 1st half of the year, and apparently ALOT. I did attend the 1982-04-5 philly show, and how I luv'd that deep elem, but I missed purchasing the '82 RT 4.4 release due to 2 youngin's and budgeting constraints (lol such is life!) dig-in to the 1st half, it's tasty, and listening to those early try-outs from "in the dark" are not being performed

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...finished-UP that RENO 2nd set; well, it's a DEF a tease, but hardly a JAM that dear prudence, so listening carefully is required because it's quick; glad I went and checked-it-out, got another other one and black peter, they're probably 2 of the 3 [women smarter] most played tunes in '82...and I'm always a sucker for WELL the music's THUNDERIN' feel like a >franklin's scorchin' HOT, so check-it-out. thnx BILLYTHEKIDDD

NEXT movin' on to 1982-04-08 Set 2 SYRACUSE which will be another 1st-ever listen for me, streaming on the archive identifier #109567; this is SHOW #11 of my 1982 baker's dozen. everyone ENJOY your weekend. rock HARD!

Peace All!
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I really liked the Frost shows from 1982, that was my favorite year at the Frost. The 1982 Ventura shows were a blast. I don't know if you have listened to these shows yet, if not you might enjoy them.
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Stand Back! Here Comes Charlie Musselwhite's South Side Band.

Headed down the rabbit hole of Cristo Redentor/Christo Redentor - (Musselwhite uses the second spelling). Cause just found out that it was one of Musslewhite's signature tunes. And it's on this, his debut album, with Harvey Mandel on guitar.

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Great record. He plays Christo Redemptor at every show. There is a longer version on his album Tenesee Woman.

BTK - That sure is a great album. Not sure how its escaped my attention all these years. And Cristo Redentor is a truly beautiful song that also somehow was under the radar up until I keyed into the Harvey Mandel album. That extended version of Christo Redentor on Tennessee Woman is really really fine. Wish the version on Stand Back was jammed out like that - it fades while Mandel is laying down some real fine guitar that you know could keep on going. I'll have to track down some live versions. Went back to the source towards the end of the evening - the original version (I think) on Donald Byrd 's lp A New Perspective. Wow. Fun little rabbit hole.

edit - and for the record capcha was way way difficult this morning compared to normal but once i ran that gauntlet I didn't get the HN beat down which was a very much a surprise

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...at IT, and IT will be...1982-04-06 PHL spectrum [archive/ #105237] it'll be really interesting to hear this SHOW as it was RELEASED, and how it measures-up to the PREVIOUS eleven which are now behind me; be COOL everyone!

Peace All!
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...of 61 performances in1982. ENDING this baker's dozen w/ the 1982-05-22 GREEK [archive/ #165132] another 1st-ever LISTEN, and excited to be able to stream it.

yesterday's spectrum APRIL 6th show had a notable OTHER ONE [albeit 2nd verse only] less than a crazy three mins. and very very enjoyable DEW (one of only 8 in '82)

peace all!
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...starts today in St Louis with 1972-10-18 [don't have LTTR Box Set] so will be streaming on the archive #13925, sure is gonna be a different vibe after two weeks of listening to 1982 AND looking forward to it; LETS ROCK!

peace all!
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...forever TUNING, AND after reading the post this morning of "Blair's Golden Road blog" DARK STAR crashes...[and there is a HUGE need to hear it today; 1972-11-19 HOFHEINZ Pavilion will fit the bill just fine (streamin' on the archive identifier #123577)]

...pouring its light into ashes
Reason tatters

peace and kindness for ALL
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FALL 1972!...today is stanley theater in JERSEY CITY 1972-09-26, and we're ON with this SHOW!

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...yeah it's #3 out of 4 weekends, BUT a great opportunity to continue diving deeper into FALL '72! ready to LAUNCH 1972-11-22 Set 2 AUSTIN

peace all!
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...after yesterday's massive rains lead me BACK to the stanley theater 1972-09-28, an AUD patch for TRUCKIN' starts this show off, but JG has indicated this is going to be another HOT night in JERSEY CITY...onward :)
everyone have a wonderful day
peace!
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IT FOR...Fall '72 with 1972-09-09 [daP 46 at the hollywood palladium] which ends a quick 6 show listening party...THE OTHER ONE!

peace today and EVERY DAY!
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I thought I'd give 3/14/90 a spin over the weekend, from "The Other One" box set. A few years since I've listened to a show of this vintage, and it was a pleasant surprise. So much so, that I'm now half way through the next show in the box 3/18/90.

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...THE ROAD...18 years to...[yes DAVEROCK has the ESP lol!]...beginning a NEW TOUR today with the 2nd SETS from 1990-03-15 CAP Center and 1990-03-24 KNICKerBOCKer ( my DH buddies and I got shut-out by GDTS for BOTH albany & atlanta; and it did HURT! ) my early TOUR synopsis has the potential for 8 SHOWS, but this wheel is on fire!

peace ALL!
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Did that Dozin' at the Knick yesterday and was amazed how good it was. That 3-24-90 show has to rival ones from any era! What a setlist too.
Cheers

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Uncle Tripel-so you were actually there - almost. Hopefully you got into some of the other shows on this tour.
It does enhance an era if you don't play anything from it for a while. Not that I'm going to attempt it with 1972 or anything.

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So I brought Dick's Picks 14 to work today (Latvala!) but then I had the urge to listen to 12/1/73. Anyone remember when David Gans played some of this night?

My tape of GDH #217 survives after 31+ years! I had to go look up the airdate - 'twas the week of 11/16/92. Contained within is some of the finest banter you'll ever hear. The "Clear the Aisles" song(s) are amazing - at least in retrospect - I mean, obv no one in the band was amazed at having to go on "this lame trip"...

In the foreward/intro for his book, Improvised Lives, Gans wrote that he thought the GDH would end after Garcia died. Show #361 aired in August '95 and contained the memorial at Golden Gate Park. But now we're at GDH #1853. That's nearly 1500 shows later. Gans is doing his level best to play as many Grateful Dead Hours as there were Grateful Dead shows! #ht

Haven't listened to this show in forever. Gifted a ticket day before in Chaco. It was hotter than Hades in the low desert in August (my first time down there) and thought my tires would melt as I drove into town. Ultramatrix circulates for Set I only and it sounds sweet. Edit - There's an in-house FM source for Set II.

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Sweat lodge!
Right after R.R. and T-ride in the cool Colorado air (rain).
Cheers
Thx BC, will check that one out.

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...the sun will shine in my back door EVERY day...with 1990-03-26 albany today, love this show!
would have liked to add additional comments but, like, you know, THEY'RE BACK AT THEIR COMPLIANCE B.S.

peace all!
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August 13, 1975.
Went to find this after PF and BTK referenced it on the Mars Hotel thread and found I only have a 90 min. tape that cuts off the Blues For Allah at the end. Doh! What was I thinkin'? Taped it in 1993 and obviously had no idea how rare performances of that song are. Only 5 times, all in 1975. Loved the wiki story about Mickey's live crickets in the basement with a microphone.
Cheers
Edit - How did I not get HNd when this AM nothing got through. So dang random.