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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • DeadVikes
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    Sounds good WTJ. I really like this release, another good change of pace and I believe the only 84 show released besides the 30 Trips Box.

  • wilfredtjones
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    Hey Now

    I'm already feeling 4/20, how about you? DaP 35? :-P

    :-) :-) :-)

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    Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead……

    Mornin’ rockers!!

    Picks Of The Day:
    April 11 1969 University of Arizona, Tucson
    April 11 1972 City Hall, Newcastle Upon Tyne

    Speaking of the Dead, here we are again with another daily double, which seems to occur a lot in the Grateful Dead world……..

    Tucson: In July 2021 the kind folks of the GEMS network put a great sounding copy, from Bear’s cassette master, into circulation. And while it’s incomplete, it does include It’s A Sin, an early Hard To Handle (with Garcia on pedal steel), and the big jam sequence. And for all you Lovelight haters, this one clocks in at a mere 19 minutes. Absolutely worth a listen!!!

    Newcastle: This was one of the first Europe 72 recordings I had, long before the trunk was issued. Rough and greasy, not without its faults, yet with depth of charm. Great China/Rider, fine Playing In The Band, cool Good Lovin’ to open the second set, fierce Truckin’. I loved it way back in the day and still do, although I admit its not the best show from the tour. Always worth a listen……

    There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth; not going all the way, and not starting……

    Rock on!

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    I played them again

    I have probably played every show from the E72 tour every year since the trunk came out. But I don't necessarily play them in chronological order, or on the anniversary dates. I take all year over them. Just a couple of shows at a time, then move on to another landscape.

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    PT 4/7/88 is awesome!

    Since this has unfortunately become “today in GD history” and I’ve heard those shows a million times, I checked out the actual, existing site that does that already, and 4/7/88 was their pick (with some noise about best show of tour?).
    Well it was an awesome show, but best of tour….I think not.
    Definitely a need to listen for those whose ears can hear past 72…

    I Really enjoyed those FLA 91s when we did them.

    Edit: 9/3/88 went with Healy/Pearson. Thought it sounded great except for a few times it got a tad hot?

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    Tried to give this one a go yesterday and wasn't able to find a real good source, which is a bummer.

    Hit 4/7/72, not too long ago, fantastic start to an unbelievable tour and how fortunate we are they recorded the whole tour in multi track.

    You doing the whole tour this year Doc?

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    sure was a great date in Dead history, E72, that great run in Orlando in 91, the only stadium show of the 95 spring tour, all great shows, anybody else got any 4-7 or 8 for that matter great shows from other years? Digging 4-7-91 now, a great Ruben in there and that Crazy Fingers to open the 2nd set. So good, I was lucky enough to attend all three of those shows in Orlando that year and also the show in 95 with that exceptional Visions and the really cool Unbroken Chain.

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    Glastonbury Fayre Triple Album

    It wasn't actually a bootleg when it first came out. It was a lavish limited edition set put out by the organisers to defray some of the costs of putting the festival on. I was lucky enough to buy one of the original copies when it came out - and stupid enough to sell it about 10 years later. It was like a trip to another planet for me in 1973 - the overall freak vibe of the presentation and the music. Gong and the Pink Fairies were the highlights for me at the time. That side by Gong still sounds deranged.
    But all the artists on the album donated their music free of charge as far as I am aware.

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    Pop music is aspirin and the blues are vitamins......

    Mornin', rockers!!!

    Let's continue our stroll through the past, daily double style...............

    April 8, 1971 Boston Music Hall
    Solid and crunchy counterpoint to the previous night, maybe a bit jammier? Or was it jellier? The first Second That Emotion, a rare April 71 Star, and a hot Good Lovin' to close the show. Absolutely worth a listen!

    April 8, 1972 Empire Poll, London
    We had a portion of this absolutely amazing Dark Star on the Glastonbury Fayre bootleg LP decades ago, we cherished it. Fine example of how the music would truly sometimes play the band. And a Cumberland Blues that even JimInMD could love. In fact, it's my favorite version ever!!

    You'll excuse me while I check out and take a deep dip into that Dark Star...........

    Music should always be an adventure......

    Rock on!!

    Doc
    To stop the flow of music would be like the stopping of time itself, incredible and inconceivable..........

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    Europe 72 - greatest tour ever?

    Yup, I would agree with that. The trouble is, once you realise this, how do you keep your pecker up for the shows that followed ? Best not to try - just buy the E72 shows again on vinyl.

    I bought this one, 4/7/72, a few weeks ago in this format. I wasn't sure whether to or not ...surely the Newcastle show a few days later, also featuring a Truckin-Drums Other one jam would have been a better release. No..I'm glad I did...it's a great show in its own right. The second set is the one to write home about, but for me, first sets on this tour were also the best they played with Keith in the line up. Partly because with Pigpen still hanging on in there, they had a blues/soul connection, which varied the repertoire. Sadly, when he went, he took it with him. 1973 first sets, by comparison, seem really, really long without this variety.
    And hopefully the Newcastle show will also come out on vinyl in the fullness of time.

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New audio equipment is the best.
Saw your post on "listening to" and you stumped me again. I thought has that not funny OCD Canadian comedian from AGT released an album? Oops not Howie, but Harvey Mandel lol. From John Mayall, Canned Heat and auditioned for the Stones. Not bad creds!
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music and clean sound - simple pleasures that bring a whole lot of happiness. and who can't use more of that these days? not an "audiophile" by any means but its increasingly important to honor those pleasures and make the occasional strategic purchase.

Cristo Redentor was Mandel's first solo album. He had played on Charlie Musselwhite's first album and Musselwhite plays harp on one or two tunes. Only came across it a few years ago. CD I've got is a reissue by Raven that also includes a selection of bonus tracks from a large slice of his career. Title track is pure dreamy late night gorgeous summer of youth - hauntingly beautiful. What I didn't know until now is that Musselwhite covered the tune on his first album and it was signature song he played. just listening to it now, with Mandel playing the guitar line. And its gorgeous (of course).

On a snowy Colorado note a brother reminded me today of when us kids (4 of the 5), along with a couple of brothers from another family (that we've totally lost track of), got to meet Billy Kidd at Steamboat ca. 1972. Billy graciously met with us little squirts (plus the Dads) and signed some swag for us - all gone now - lol. Fortunately still have a handful of faded photographs that our Mom had in an album. A real blast from the past. Looking online - Kidd is still there at Steamboat over 50 years later - very cool to see.

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Probably still on K2s, lol.
Those red, white, and blue K2 Fours were the stuff BITD. An incredible racer who defined an era, and a great asset and ambassador for Steamboat.
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An iconic ski for sure. Some interesting photos of retro K2 assemblages/arrays to be seen with an easy search. Not that I skied all that much but I plunked down hard earned money for a pair of long/narrow/stiff Rossis - man, skis back in the day were such a different concept from nowadays and not in a good way for most of us. The Steamboat family history came up because another brother was going to join long time friends to ski there this weekend. That storm(s) put the kabosh on that - one guy arrived early but everybody else near and far got shut down.

Got distracted from Baltimore '77 yesterday so finishing that up this morning.

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Going to start DaP 12 & 25 today, maybe a soundtrack for The Players golf tourny, lol.
Never had any K2s but I loved my Dynastars, almost sister company to Rossi. Tried the 2004-07 K2s, loved the Recon, hated the Crossfire. Best ski in '04 was a Rossi Z-5 for me. Carved like a dream, all you had to do was think about turning and they did. I used to find, tune and try lots of vintage skis in the pre-parabolic era and those K2 fours from 1970-72 were awful. I don't know how we ever got better, lol.
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Hit it over the weekend in the car 1st Show. The Scarlet was always a little funky when I first listened to it, but it has definitely grown on me over the years. I think the Half Steps in 77 and into spring 78 were fabulous. Just rocking versions that you didn't want to end.

Would have been a fun show to be at. Love the banter.

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After moving along nicely, my 69 project, he’ll all dead, has been grounded.
After 17 years got blindsided by my greedy employer.
Long short pulled my benes so right before I need medical things done they pulled my insurance.
But worst part is how bad its me depressed. Just when things were looking good. “When life looks like easy street…”
So haven’t been able to listen to much and especially no Dead : (

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That's a raw deal Oro. Everything is bottom line nowadays. I had that happen too near the end of my retail career where they made everyone a part-timer so they'd lose benefits even though we were still doing 36-40+ hours a week. Then the SOBs went bankrupt and kept the $1K I had in PDOs and vacation time. Our condolences and maybe someone will pick you up who knows how valuable their workforce is. Spread the word and like me you might just be working for their competitor trying to put them under, lol. "Don't let it bring you down. It's only castles burning.....". Neil Young
Cheers
Edit: Check PM (shortened by the HN police)

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That sucks in so many ways. So sorry to hear this.
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So sorry to hear that man. Very lame.
Hope you can find a new gig with a better outfit.

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sorry to hear about your gig being cancelled, it sucks. It's happening a lot now days, as soon as you get close to retirement age, they boot you and take it all away. This also happened to a friend, 19 years and 1 to go for retirement, terminated on a trumped up charge.

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That stinks Oro. I hope they have to offer you cobra, though you would have to start ponying up, it should be at a better rate than out on the street. Perhaps coverage through your spouse? This stuff does happen more and more now, lucky I guess to make it to retirement age and Medicare before my employer started the funny business, of course they knew they could start cutting hours and benefits. Bastids.

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PT, didn’t you get the “treatment” couple years ago?

Technically, they had a right to make me PT as I’ve only been working about 1100-1300 hours a year.
They didn’t outright fire me probably hoping I’ll make it easy on em and just go away. Could use to work at the higher rate for as long as I can stand it, but man it will be awkward.
But due to Covid, long short I had verbal agreement/arrangement with the owner which has worked amazing for four years.
And part of that was that if anything needed to change with my “hybrid” status, that we’d discuss it, like adults, not just send a cowardly email.
So it’s as much the way it went down that’s really lame, especially since nobody’s answered my reply to discuss this, nothing, crickets,
17 years of consistently doing high quality and the hardest shit jobs nobody else wanted, making them tens of millions, which has made me damn near crippled physically, and this is what you get!
And long short, basically it comes down to them perhaps subsidizing a few thousand “unearned” dollars to keep me healthy and happy!
Guess they’d rather spend it on a revolving door of young folks who have no skills, hard work ethic, or care.
Sa la vie. But thanks again, may not have any many other friends, but here on DN, like in Viola Lee, “I gotta friend some where” ; )

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Walked into the beer store and there was a stack of it.
Woo Hoo!
Must be spring.
Tastes mighty fine.
Bring on summer.

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Ooof Oroborous that really sucks. And I'm with you 100% on what you said about when life looks like easy street. We know it, we tell ourselves that we know it, but yet we can't help slowly being lulled into a false sense of security.

Sorry to hear this OB. Man. I got laid off a few years back after a 20 year run. Covid didn't help things either, but we do the best we can. Of all the things I have not been able to make whole is the kids college fund, an event that is rapidly approaching. The wheel is turning and you can't slow down, right. We'll find a way though - never give up.

I liked the Viola Lee reference, that's the vibe I like.

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...it makes sense that you feel slighted by the owner. wishing you much luck in your search!

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A similar occurrence happened to my eldest son (and his coworker) who were walked off the jobsite (years ago) because they were making the most wage$ of all the laborers at sampson construction, in Lincoln NE. So both were fired without cause. They were not even allowed to retrieve their personal tools!

Radical capitalist extremists are repugnant entities, but are proliferating in modern times, unfortunately. The love and worship of money over all else is a malignant malady/mindset/faith. This belief system is detrimental for all individuals, our society, our culture, and our future.

"One way or another, this darkness got to give."

Good vibes sent your way to help you land in a better spot.

"Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself."

Once or twice a year I think back to Gordon Gekko. Does anyone remember him from the movie Wall Street?

Greed is good he proclaimed. That never sat right with me, it seems a hollow, selfish gesture that does not give the complete picture when greed runs awry.

Anyway, that movie came out in 1987. There are three shows I really like from that year - 7/24/87, 7/26/87 and perhaps my favorite 9/18/87. I'm going to hit one of these later in the day to try and balance out the greed of Mr. Gekko and the plight of our friend Senor OB.

A wise man once said Greed is a poison that blinds us to what truly matters. Shove that in your pipe and smoke it Mr. Gekko

As you were.

You folks gonna make me all verklempt.

Ha, my situation had me recalling that prescient quote you speak of Jim.
I recall realizing that most people are unfortunately gonna miss the real point, which is the opposite, sigh.

But I also thought of a good one for you worrying about the kids future. Lol.
To quote the great Judge Smails “the world needs ditch diggers too Danny” lol
Totally just kidding of course, unfortunately I suffer from a pathology that requires me to become more juvenile and comedic the more dire the situation.
But hey, it usually makes people laugh, so what’s wrong with that!

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Yes, that is it. What did I say, four from the vault? That is wrong. Thanks Jim.

Two great shows from the summer Dylan tour in 87. Making up some of the shows that were cancelled in 86 due to Jerry's coma.
I own the DVD and the CD release.
Tons of Steel brings back memories from summer 87. I miss those days.

Just made it back from Nashville last night. Was there for four days for a family wedding. Fun town. Tons of live music on Broadway Street.

Had the Dead on my phone to get me through the flights.

When will that box set be announced this year?

Be well all.

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Great show, I was fortunate to have been there. The Dead played great, seeing Garcia play pedal steel was worth the price of admission.

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You were right up the road from me in Nashville.
My son's Oncologist is in Nashville.
Give me a shout if you ever head this way again.
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A tough weight to carry, sending good wishes to you and your son. We've got a bit of that going on in our family too. We are half in denial and half accepting what's to come.

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yeah, I was also mistreated by employer(s) doesn't matter if you are the best at what you do, if the cost of keeping a talented individual outweighs the benefits of keeping that same person, then, everytime, the powers that be will cut you, and sometimes that cut is deep.
Just the other day I was saying to my better half, "work sucks and I don't want to do it anymore". She said, "quit, the world won't end" so I did but not before telling the twit who was the immediate supervisor just what I thought of her. Lazy, stupid and crazy, that's what they picked over a vet who worked ass off. So, I just went in and quit, felt quite good actually. Now, I am officially retired. Time to veg out, relax and smoke em if you got em.

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Will do TN John.

Roberts Western World was a cool spot.

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Cancer!
Work!
and ESPECIALLY Greedheads!

Good thoughts coming y’all’s way, we are everywhere!

PT, you’ll love this one. So since I’m not fired, just PT, the bastardos try to call me up Friday so I could give them info that would make their life significantly easier lol
I texted next day saying you folks are shameless and “sorry, too busy reassembling my life after the cowardly sucker punch” to worry about helping you
Ok, too much pain and too much sorrow here, (hopefully) won’t be the same tomorrow!
Back to my spring 69 project, should be through February by end today
These short shows are beneficial to major box checking!
ONWARD

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Thanks Jim and Oro!
We've been dealing with this for 10 years now.
Unfortunately, it has become normalized for us.
Daily chemo tablets, and occasional phlebotomies.
We are fortunate compared to some of the other people we see at Ingram Cancer Center.
"Once in a while, you get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right"
Vibes to your family as well Jim.
Peace

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Not as much a suggestion as a question.
Is it King Solomon's Marbles or Stronger Than Dirt?
Did 1 From the Vault today and was chasing blues for Allah stuff.
Cheers
Think I'll just do the DaP 18 bonus disc which does not list the Stronger Than Dirt between Playin' and Cosmic Charlie (or the Samson after) even though Deadbase lists it.
Edit - It's more like a stronger than dirt jam but could just as easily be called part of Playin'. Love this disc!

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Good idea, I think I will join you in the bonus disc from Dave's 18. It has been a long time.

Then, Dave's #30, 1/2/70.

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Yes lol

Luv me sum 7/76 Orpheum shows!
But

I’m rolling through spring 69, getting into ridiculously good April.
Next stop, the Ark!
Onward!

Cheese and rice John, everyday for ten years!
Not sure how you do it, guess no choice eh?
May the force be with you!

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While you're cruising through the Spring of 69, don't forget to revisit the Ice Palace, it's hot!!! OSF has the reels, release the hounds!!!!

Doc
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It's Oro's fault from his challenge to Doc's April '71 posts on the Mars thread. Thinkin' DaP 15 Nashville today. But as Oro said, that's just me.
Cheers

Sounds good 1st Show.

I believe this is the show that Bob says at the end of the first set, "That's it, we quit."

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in DaP 15 are making me go to DiP 25, an old favorite, next to see the demarcation between the 4-24-78 show and early May run. Clearly the Nashville is in that picture perfect category and had a great flow of up and down tempos. They were working the room like Nashville cats. Next stop, the swaggering '78 sound.
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That April Nashville show is a good one.
I wish they would release the 12/16/78 Nashville show. That was my first show, and would be the last time they played TN until the Pyramid in Memphis on April Fools Day '95.
Good thing I moved to Norfolk, VA in '85, or I might not have been able to see that many shows. Being perched in the middle of the East Coast came in quite handy from a Dead show standpoint.
Peace

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I was at both Pyramid shows.
Had a grate time. Pretty good shows as far as ‘95 goes.
Got my first of two Unbroken Chains.

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I'm in on Nashville. The recording on this one wowed everyone when it was released. I think it was Keithfan that raved about the Wharf Rat (I think?).

Moving to Norfolk, I am guessing you caught a few Hampton shows then. I loved that venue and caught a bunch myself starting with 83.

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Wow, I can't believe I did not get hay chowed. I'd better play Powerball while my luck is holding.

Saw every show at Hampton from '85 to the end.
Mothership, Spectrum, and Cap Center were my 3 favorite venues for shows.
But to clarify, I'm back in TN now. Moved back here 3 years after Garcia passed.
Hope your shoulder is healing up. I'm still doing therapy on my frozen shoulder.
Peace

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I'm a little more than six weeks out, so weak and tender but improving. No frozen shoulder so far, I've been working hard to keep movement and working harder on range of motion since a couple days after surgery. So weak and tender but instead of it getting worse, I am seeing improvement. I have been religious about PT, doing everything that I am supposed to do. No less but also no more.

Gradually things are beginning to move towards normal (which is anything but normal).

Dropped four flights and cracked my spine aka what a drag it is getting old.

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How about that Foolish Heart at the 4/1 Pyramid show?
That intro about blew the roof off the Pyramid!
If you ever get back to Memphis, the Pyramid is now a Bass Pro Shops. LOL

Glad you're improving Jim.
Peace

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I haven’t listened to those shows in a long time and don’t recall the Foolish Heart. But that could be because the transition from Victim to Foolish on 6-27-95 was so good (to me) that that is the Foolish I remember from that year.

Too bad SBD’s from 6-27,28-95 aren’t in circulation (last I checked). I have AUD’s.

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Was thinking of Dave's #5 today. I haven't listened to this show in a couple of years. Hey it's November 73.

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...a GOOD time for NOV '73

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I think we have about 90 to 95% totality where I live but I feel compelled to drive a little closer to totality. The last Solar Eclipse I saw was in the late 70's or early 80's. We were instructed to build these lame ass shadow viewers so we would not go blind. So very disappointing. This year we are not expected to have complete sun so I have to drive a bit to get to partially cloudy. I guess I will go, why not?

So whatever you want to listen to tomorrow go for it, but before you decide, consider something with a melodic and meaningful Dark Star to suite this auspicious occasion. I rarely reach for this one, but I am bringing 2/27/69 and just a little extra something to make it interesting even if the sun don't shine.

I decided to stay away from interstates (they will become parking lots) and try to head West from where I live using mostly back roads as the highways are already packed with eclipse travelers. Due West seems to have the least clouds and closest to full totality. It's morel season here now so there's that also. When I look on a map, this logic takes me right past the Fur Peace Ranch, anyone ever heard of that place? I doubt if they let me in, but that's about where I am heading, if the place is locked I have another suitable place about 20 miles Northeast that should work. I figure I can get there and back in time to catch the game tomorrow night.

Seems like a noble adventure, what could possibly go wrong? 2/27/69, a solar eclipse and just enough jungle juice to make it interesting. Who's with me?