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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • dmcvt
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    51 announcement is up

    Comments and seaside do not seem to be enabled yet... yes, indeed 3/24 an interesting show, Thanks Doc for the DS/TOO April recap, noticed same thing, them being on hiatus. Turn out we do get another TOO, from Pittsburg.

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    I was just going to post about this one..

    Give it a listen... Good show! Has a different feel...

  • Forensicdoceleven
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    I think we could jam a bit more in our coffins than we do.....

    Well, not the sort of jam we were referring to, but kind of in my sphere of expertise.....

    There were a handful of April 71 shows that had no Dark Star or Other One---if memory serves me well, that included April 4, 6, 7, 10, 15, 17, 18, 22, 25, and 26. So maybe not so unusual for that month. Often times, Good Lovin' was the "jammy tune" of the evening. All, of course, leading up to the penultimate Good Lovin' of April 26, 1971, which was about the crankinest jammyest Good Lovin' known to humankind. Now that one is definitely worth a listen!!!

    March 24. Oh yeah. Highly rated here. "We brought Pigpen, but we forgot an organ". And Bobby with the Code Seminole mishigas. Too funny. Now this one does have an Other One and it's pretty good. Healthy doses of Pigpen. Would make a nice official release some day. Like maybe next year LOL.............

    Paperwork day. No bodies to cut up. I'm jonesing................

    Rock on,

    Doc
    Because the sweeter the cake, the more bitter the jelly can be.......

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    Five 71 Dave's Picks through #51.

    Seems odd to me that he has not touched many other years much or at all. Definitely a proponent of variety, but we will take what we can get.

    I think we would have all thought we would get a 91 released by now, but now I don't see it happening any time soon. At least they gave us a great 91 show for last year's MUATM. Wish they would release it on video and CD.

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    While we wait for Scranton

    No DS or TOO?? But a nice H2H. Been listening to Winterland, three weeks earlier, March 24th H2H, that's a very hot one. 1971, next best thing to primal.

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    St Louie

    Not much of this show left too release.

  • Forensicdoceleven
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    What I forgot about Scranton..........

    .........raucous Sugar Mags to end the first set. Very unusual..........
    .........how badly they screwed up Truckin'. Then they made up for it. We always forgave the Dead their foibles and pratfalls, this is no different...........
    .........good Good Lovin'..........

    Rough diamonds may sometimes be mistaken for worthless pebbles.......

    Rock on,

    Doc
    Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.....

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    Pig Show & St. Louis Xtras?

    This would seem to be as expected from what Dave said about the 2024 schedule of releases. Next I would imagine would be the oft anticipated Vince & Bruce era pick, 1991? Heck! As soon as I'm done with this post I am picking up the left over 2019 Box Set single show disc, 6/17~1991, lucky for me it's still there! Anyways I forsee a possibility of 2025 with Frost 1982 (2) shows. Maybe 1978, 12/22 with a bonus disc of 12/17 "From the Heart of Me" onward. Cross your fingers for Aug. 4th, 1976, and maybe 10/25/73 to finish off the year. Or! Sept. 11, 1973 with BirdSong & Sunshine bonus filler from 9/12? Then for 2026 plug in another Bruce & Vince show and either a Pig or Brent era to go with 7/25/74 & 4/23/77. I KNOW!!!!! Damn! 1977 again!

  • Vguy72
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    Cage The Elephant....

    ....holy shit. Who and what is this band?
    Fixin to find out.
    Thank you the Spectrum XM channel.
    Phish's Tiny Desk is up and running.
    Conekid got a turntable?
    Tell me more.

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    Love the comments and banter

    Good to see thin' return and doc's analysis is spot on.

    I find a little irony in the tele comments. As I recall thin is not a fan of tele skiing. (a little joke, no hard feelings whatsoever). I guess thin likes tele more than he would admit.

    Full disclosure, I tele ski. Poorly in my old age. But at least I'm enjoyin' the ride.

    As for the 70's debate which seems to never end. I find myself agreeing with everything written here lately. I have listened to this show (#51) at least twice but it isn't in my long term memory.

    I think the emphasis on 70's vs. other is somewhat artificial as there have been many 80's cassette mastered shows released recently which might suggest the trend has shifted. But there is no doubt things have been 70's centric since Dick's Picks ended with a few honorable mentions in the road trips series. I honestly believe the reason for this is not the quality of the shows but the quality of the recordings and the lack of vocal flubs in the earlier years compared to 80ish shows. Plus in general they could for the most part sing better in their youth. They are trying to mine gold as best they can with what they have. When viewed in that context '71 makes sense right now, especially a good recording like what we are about to hear all cleaned up by Dr. Norman.

    Just my two cents, I could be wrong.

    As you were folks. Enjoy your ride and be considerate to those you encounter.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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on fresh ice.
Nothing better.
Looking forward to this one.
Cheers

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...graphics,
STEALIE hood badge on the TAXI...
how about that FOR HIGHER taxi roof sign "TRIPS"
can't wait to LISTEN

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Let’s hope it sticks around this time!

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The chat is back up now.
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...I don't love it. lol

Where do they get these reviews from and why are we subjected to a review from a phish person?
I'm not reading it.

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Off and running. Let's hope we all get these next week.

No hints or even a mention of this year's box set. Talked about 2025 and the 60th.

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All due respect, no interest whatsoever. Worth the huge build-up? You decide.....

Let's move on to 51, maybe a little further back....

We have deep depth......

Doc
It gets late early out there......

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Had to do a double take on the way this release appears to be organized, as it seems they have inserted stuff from the next night into the middle CD. Weird. I get that they want to fit as much as possible, but this is pretty blatantly intermingled by an order of magnitude.

I've not heard this one I don't believe, so there's that to look forward to.

Be Well People!
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Inserting material from another show halfway through a disc spoils the flow of the original show. This is pretty obvious to most folks, but apparently not to those responsible for this puppy. That alone makes this a monumental pass for me.

I'm not sure I want this one either. I've got all the other officially released Spring 77 shows - I'm not sure this has anything new to offer really. I enjoyed both 4/25/77and 5/5 /77, earlier this week but after the 5/5 one had ended I did feel like something a bit more...you know.

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Don't like the breakup of Songs from other show. After 50 years how about an ''sALL Pigpen' Release'? There are at lease 20 songs different you could use. Sure it would sell out.

Glad to see Hunter's Great Rum Runners being re-released. Hope for Tiger Rose too and his other albums. The unreleased 'Alligator Moon' would be a nice release even if some songs are live.

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#50 looks cool. Its time to go into those banana boxes for some 1968, 1969 or 1970. Hopefully # 51 will be a 2 show release.

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OFFICIAL!!!
PLAY DEAD
PLAY DEAD LOUD
HAAPY THURSDAY DEADLAND!!!

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Hey nowed so cant's really comment. Second set jams are nice, eyes is good, Jerry on Fire, but still as good as the rest of May 77? Ok, first listen to this betty and have heard it just audience recording, never heard 5-4, wonder when the rest of the show will turn up? weird

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Excited for dp 50. I know there are many Spring 77 shows. Never going to make all happy but hoping the music speaks for itself. The review provided is obnoxious. Capitalize your sentence, abide by common rules of English language, and use punctuation. Juneau what i meen,

Also, I second that pig album. Bring it on.

To get my mitts on this one. Hard to believe should be here in approximately two weeks.

Been a while since '77 for me, looking forward to the visit.

Hope all are well around here. Got now'd so much I backed off.

G

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I listen to and love a whole lot of GD eras. '77 is always always a sweet spot. and a Playin > Comes A Time > Playing on the bonus disc??!!

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I've been hankering to listen to some May '77 for the past month or so but been holding out for this one! Soon, soon......

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A bit miffed at the way the 5/3 and 5/4 are combined
Hopefully I will figure a way to separate the two
If not so be it
With vinyl coming back I see the day the WHOLE catalog will be available.
Not interested…..
I’d rather see it on digital……all these cds records tapes take up space ….. trying to decompress the amount of stuff ….

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Really looking forward to listening to this, BUT I would humbly request once again that in future releases of CDs you consider folks listening ON CDs who would like to listen to a show as it was played without dumping stuff from other shows in the middle of the show. I know other folks will say 1) I disagree because I don't listen to the CDs; I rip them to my computer and sort them; or 2) it would be cost-prohibitive to add another disc in order to preserve the original flow of the shows... to that I would say 1) if you're not going to listen on CD then how would it hurt you to have 4 discs with the original order preserved; and 2) if Phish can put out 2-concert 6-disc shows for $35 I think GD can put out 4 discs for $30... THANKS AGAIN FOR THE MUSIC!

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Mr. Betts much.

Jaimoe last man standin.

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Count me in the minority of loving the killer filler. Loved when it was included on tapes and love it now.

Remember playing Dick's Picks 13 for the first time and at the end of Saint of Circumstance all of the sudden a killer Scarlet Fire emerges? I do!

No hint of it on the track listing, just bliss!

Hope all are good here! Those lucky enough to catch any Sphere shows whether D&C, Phish or got to see U2 - enjoy!

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The Dead did 5 shows at the Palladium April 29 through May 4 of '77 and I would've thought that it would've been great for another annual box-set.

However April 30 was already released in the Download Series and with May 3 & May 4 released as Dave's Picks 50 my prediction is that April 29 or May 1 will be part of the 50th anniversary deluxe version of Terrapin Station and the other show will be Dave's Picks 75.

They also did the same thing with the '72 Academy Of Music (later renamed the Palladium) shows in releasing them on Dick's Picks and Dave's Picks rather than as a multi-show box-set.

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I remember that first time that Scarlet Fire hit me 15 years or so ago. I had sank back in my chair, full on buzz. Bam after 5 minutes out drifts unknown at time music for me. What a great wave to ride.

And Peter, great to see you today!

G

Edit: considering grabbing the 4 sphere shows this weekend. 4 for a big buck, nice.

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I'm good with the filler too.
Especially, since it is connected with the bonus disc.
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ho ho ho
and couple of tra la las
that's how we trip the days away in the merry old land of the Grateful Dead

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Yesterday, sitting at my desk, out of the blue, I thought, "I wonder how Dicky Betts is doing?" Objectively, I knew he couldn't be doing great after all his health issues. And I thought, once Dicky goes, Jaimoe's the last man standing.

So when the headline hit today, that set me way back. A few shows in which I caught Mr. Betts:
ABB, May '73, MSG
ABB, June 9, 73, RFK
ABB, July 27-28, Watkins Glen
Betts Band, some tiny place in Denver, maybe 20 years ago (lost my hearing for a day)

The kicker was RFK, June 73. GD went on first and we took half of a four-way blotter. Exhausted from the heat, we found seats and took another half -- so we're four-way now -- and the ABB absolutely blew us away, in large degree due to Dicky and Chuck Leavell.

Oh and DP 50 will probably rock pretty hard, too.

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last saw him and great southern in 02 opening for Phil and friends and Ratdog, good times, Blue Sky and Sweet Melissa so good, it was so hot thought we were all gonna pass out. Phil came out and played with Dickey and he returned the favor and played two Dead tunes and the encore. This one hurts, he carried southern rock and the Almans all through their great history, he was there, until he wasn't. Funny, didn't like Dickey's hellraising but hung around after Greg turned federal informer. Via con dios Mr. Betts

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I’m really looking forward to this release. All of 5-3 and then most of 5-4 as filler and the Bonus Disk.
Opening the patio this weekend, so that’ll be good timing.

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One of the greatest guitarists of all time, wonderful songwriter, and I can't, and don't want to imagine a world in which he and Duane Allman didn't play together. Dickey and Berry were the biggest Deadheads in the ABB, and Dickey didn't sit in much while Duane was alive, because he was nervous around Jerry, and worried that if they played together Jerry would think Dickey was copying him. I'm glad he lived to see the release of 6/10/73, though if he posted about it on Instagram, I missed it. He had an incredible Instagram account that would put out archival ABB pics and music and videos, largely in an On This Day format, but really cool content. Dickey Betts was a bad, bad man on the guitar, his piercing, inimitable tone (even on a widely available guitar and amp combo) was a fantastic counterpoint to Duane's more soaring, fluid, and melodic playing. He was great with Jack Pearson, and the one time I saw him with Derek Trucks in the ABB was unbelievably good. They went at it all night, but Dickey's magnificent solo on Back Where It All Begins won the night, just a masterpiece. Time to plug in my tape deck...

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Oh yeah! I ordered the cab, six months ago. Early bird gets the Extra Disc!
P.S. R.I.P. Dickie Betts.
P.P.S. So glad I got that 6/10 show from the Sunshine Box!

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Can't let this occasion pass without saying how sad I am to hear about Dickey. Tried to write something longer about it but got Hey Now'd. Twice. But it's probably just as well. Words fail. Music lives on. So long to one of the truly great ones.

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...Always hoping for a box of all 5 Palladium shows alas it's not to be. I was extremely partial to 5/4 however I've been delving into 5/1 a few songs at a time-all I can say is WOW!!!! Dare I say it could it be that Cornell is overrated? So very grateful that 5/4/77 Set II is getting it's just due as it's been long overdue for the Norman treatment. Now about 51 I'm predicting a trip to a Pig era show namely 4/5/69 a favorite of the immortal LATVALA.

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On archive 5/3 and 5/4 have soundboards that circulate and are available. Same goes for 5/1.

4/29 and 4/30, however, DO NOT.

If those shows are in the vault, which appears to be the case, I wonder why Dave has not blessed us w/ the Norman treatment for them.
These 'return to the Palladium' (first time since '72 when it was called the AoM) shows could have made a nice box, maybe we will get them piecemeal or as a double shot a la Dave's 49 at some point.
A man can dream.
Jamming that hot HSF from 4/29 now.

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Okay JoeyMC: I found the cat. But otherwise clueless as usual – what's the story? Thanks.

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I often forget about that series.

Is there any other place to get that show's betty board?
I missed my chance back when they were released.
finishing 4 29 77 set I decent aud now

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Send me a PM and we will see what we can do.

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this release gives me psychedelic wood

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On your to ob I happened upon at random 7 31 71 which sounds great

God bless the GD

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CAT

Got Hey nowed 15 times can't respond

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I like the filler, too. I can always stop listening when I come to the end of one night's music, and put on the next cd.

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But, Happy Bicycle Day everybody!
Dose 'em if you got 'em.
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