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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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    With all due respect, the Mona Lisa is overrated..........

    ..........and so are Veneta and Cornell. VASTLY overrated. Not bad shows, but back in the day we lacked perspective. Now that tons of 1972 and 1977 have been released, they can be relegated to their proper place.

    Veneta especially is one of those "you had to be there" type of show. But just one man's opinion, musically there's probably at least ten E72 shows that are better, and maybe even a couple of the August BCT shows are better.

    Never understood all the buzz surrounding Cornell, always liked the next night better. Different material, more to my liking. We did see the show immediately preceding Cornell----good but not great show.............

    This is why there's different flavors of ice cream---we all know chocolate peanut butter cup is the best, but there's always some holdout who prefers pistachio............

    Rock on and watch out for wayward fireworks!

    Doc
    I think I've lived long enough to understand that plans really are very overrated......

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    Happy birthday to my American pals on your 248th birthday(by my count).
    You don’t look a day over 220.
    Enjoy the holiday, all.

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    5/9 is better. :)

    5/9 is better. :)

    Edit: So, that is something that I used to say all the time just to rub people, but I do think that it is.
    It annoys me that a a lot of people don't poke around and decide for themselves.
    As if nothing could ever compare with Veneta and Cornell.

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    Don't vote, it only encourages them!

    I saw that piece of graffiti outside Ladbroke Grove tube station in 1978 just before I was old enough to vote here in the UK. I never have. Democracy my arse with the system we have here.

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    ...lol I've already seen two expiration DATES:
    j u l y 8
    j u l y 31
    ...W T F !

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    I always want 5/9/77 to be better than 5/8/77, but when I play them both one after the other, I am always a bit disappointed to find out I don't think it is. Apart from the opening H-S-F. Still a great show of course. 5/7/77 seems underrated to me. Maybe because it isn't routinely referred to as being great.

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    Getting my head straight....

    ....Buffalo Memorial Auditorium 5.9.77.
    Better than the night before?
    H->S->F opener. Peggy-O Sunrise MSN to end the first.
    Drumz->NFA->Comes A Time->Sugar Mags to end the second.
    UJB to seal the deal
    🍻
    Gotta go back if one wants to look forward.
    Law gonna getcha if you don't walk right...

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    Obeah - yes, General Election in Britain tomorrow. Most people I know have a sense of disbelief about what the conservative and labour leaders are saying. It's widely thought that labour will get in, and that if you don't vote for one of those two parties you are wasting your vote. Nobody I know has any particular belief in Keir Starmer - he just seems preferable to Rishi Sunak. I don't think people who will be voting for Sunak like him much either - to them he just seems preferable to Keir Starmer.
    The main newsworthy action of Ed Davey, leader of the 3rd most popular party the Liberal Democrats, was him doing a bungee jump. There he is, dangling by his foot from a huge crane above a crowd of bemused onlookers. God help us!

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    That would be awesome news. I could never understand how you take an open arena (plus other areas) and make it work as open meeting space. Last renderings I saw showed they weren't even going to put a drop ceiling to help with HVAC issues. Utility bills would make it a no go. I think when they ran the numbers, revenue generation versus expenses; it became obvious.

    We talked about this many years back and it may be separate issues, but they did find a mummified corpse in the walls, maybe in 2022. Maybe at first their was a rumor of a corpse in there but could never find an official page until i found that kaiser news on a search. About 10 days ago. whatta coiwikidink

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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on fresh ice.
Nothing better.
Looking forward to this one.
Cheers

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...graphics,
STEALIE hood badge on the TAXI...
how about that FOR HIGHER taxi roof sign "TRIPS"
can't wait to LISTEN

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Let’s hope it sticks around this time!

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The chat is back up now.
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...I don't love it. lol

Where do they get these reviews from and why are we subjected to a review from a phish person?
I'm not reading it.

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Off and running. Let's hope we all get these next week.

No hints or even a mention of this year's box set. Talked about 2025 and the 60th.

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All due respect, no interest whatsoever. Worth the huge build-up? You decide.....

Let's move on to 51, maybe a little further back....

We have deep depth......

Doc
It gets late early out there......

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Had to do a double take on the way this release appears to be organized, as it seems they have inserted stuff from the next night into the middle CD. Weird. I get that they want to fit as much as possible, but this is pretty blatantly intermingled by an order of magnitude.

I've not heard this one I don't believe, so there's that to look forward to.

Be Well People!
Sixtus

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Inserting material from another show halfway through a disc spoils the flow of the original show. This is pretty obvious to most folks, but apparently not to those responsible for this puppy. That alone makes this a monumental pass for me.

I'm not sure I want this one either. I've got all the other officially released Spring 77 shows - I'm not sure this has anything new to offer really. I enjoyed both 4/25/77and 5/5 /77, earlier this week but after the 5/5 one had ended I did feel like something a bit more...you know.

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Don't like the breakup of Songs from other show. After 50 years how about an ''sALL Pigpen' Release'? There are at lease 20 songs different you could use. Sure it would sell out.

Glad to see Hunter's Great Rum Runners being re-released. Hope for Tiger Rose too and his other albums. The unreleased 'Alligator Moon' would be a nice release even if some songs are live.

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#50 looks cool. Its time to go into those banana boxes for some 1968, 1969 or 1970. Hopefully # 51 will be a 2 show release.

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OFFICIAL!!!
PLAY DEAD
PLAY DEAD LOUD
HAAPY THURSDAY DEADLAND!!!

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Hey nowed so cant's really comment. Second set jams are nice, eyes is good, Jerry on Fire, but still as good as the rest of May 77? Ok, first listen to this betty and have heard it just audience recording, never heard 5-4, wonder when the rest of the show will turn up? weird

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Excited for dp 50. I know there are many Spring 77 shows. Never going to make all happy but hoping the music speaks for itself. The review provided is obnoxious. Capitalize your sentence, abide by common rules of English language, and use punctuation. Juneau what i meen,

Also, I second that pig album. Bring it on.

To get my mitts on this one. Hard to believe should be here in approximately two weeks.

Been a while since '77 for me, looking forward to the visit.

Hope all are well around here. Got now'd so much I backed off.

G

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I listen to and love a whole lot of GD eras. '77 is always always a sweet spot. and a Playin > Comes A Time > Playing on the bonus disc??!!

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I've been hankering to listen to some May '77 for the past month or so but been holding out for this one! Soon, soon......

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A bit miffed at the way the 5/3 and 5/4 are combined
Hopefully I will figure a way to separate the two
If not so be it
With vinyl coming back I see the day the WHOLE catalog will be available.
Not interested…..
I’d rather see it on digital……all these cds records tapes take up space ….. trying to decompress the amount of stuff ….

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Really looking forward to listening to this, BUT I would humbly request once again that in future releases of CDs you consider folks listening ON CDs who would like to listen to a show as it was played without dumping stuff from other shows in the middle of the show. I know other folks will say 1) I disagree because I don't listen to the CDs; I rip them to my computer and sort them; or 2) it would be cost-prohibitive to add another disc in order to preserve the original flow of the shows... to that I would say 1) if you're not going to listen on CD then how would it hurt you to have 4 discs with the original order preserved; and 2) if Phish can put out 2-concert 6-disc shows for $35 I think GD can put out 4 discs for $30... THANKS AGAIN FOR THE MUSIC!

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Mr. Betts much.

Jaimoe last man standin.

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Count me in the minority of loving the killer filler. Loved when it was included on tapes and love it now.

Remember playing Dick's Picks 13 for the first time and at the end of Saint of Circumstance all of the sudden a killer Scarlet Fire emerges? I do!

No hint of it on the track listing, just bliss!

Hope all are good here! Those lucky enough to catch any Sphere shows whether D&C, Phish or got to see U2 - enjoy!

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The Dead did 5 shows at the Palladium April 29 through May 4 of '77 and I would've thought that it would've been great for another annual box-set.

However April 30 was already released in the Download Series and with May 3 & May 4 released as Dave's Picks 50 my prediction is that April 29 or May 1 will be part of the 50th anniversary deluxe version of Terrapin Station and the other show will be Dave's Picks 75.

They also did the same thing with the '72 Academy Of Music (later renamed the Palladium) shows in releasing them on Dick's Picks and Dave's Picks rather than as a multi-show box-set.

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I remember that first time that Scarlet Fire hit me 15 years or so ago. I had sank back in my chair, full on buzz. Bam after 5 minutes out drifts unknown at time music for me. What a great wave to ride.

And Peter, great to see you today!

G

Edit: considering grabbing the 4 sphere shows this weekend. 4 for a big buck, nice.

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I'm good with the filler too.
Especially, since it is connected with the bonus disc.
Peace

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ho ho ho
and couple of tra la las
that's how we trip the days away in the merry old land of the Grateful Dead

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Yesterday, sitting at my desk, out of the blue, I thought, "I wonder how Dicky Betts is doing?" Objectively, I knew he couldn't be doing great after all his health issues. And I thought, once Dicky goes, Jaimoe's the last man standing.

So when the headline hit today, that set me way back. A few shows in which I caught Mr. Betts:
ABB, May '73, MSG
ABB, June 9, 73, RFK
ABB, July 27-28, Watkins Glen
Betts Band, some tiny place in Denver, maybe 20 years ago (lost my hearing for a day)

The kicker was RFK, June 73. GD went on first and we took half of a four-way blotter. Exhausted from the heat, we found seats and took another half -- so we're four-way now -- and the ABB absolutely blew us away, in large degree due to Dicky and Chuck Leavell.

Oh and DP 50 will probably rock pretty hard, too.

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last saw him and great southern in 02 opening for Phil and friends and Ratdog, good times, Blue Sky and Sweet Melissa so good, it was so hot thought we were all gonna pass out. Phil came out and played with Dickey and he returned the favor and played two Dead tunes and the encore. This one hurts, he carried southern rock and the Almans all through their great history, he was there, until he wasn't. Funny, didn't like Dickey's hellraising but hung around after Greg turned federal informer. Via con dios Mr. Betts

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I’m really looking forward to this release. All of 5-3 and then most of 5-4 as filler and the Bonus Disk.
Opening the patio this weekend, so that’ll be good timing.

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One of the greatest guitarists of all time, wonderful songwriter, and I can't, and don't want to imagine a world in which he and Duane Allman didn't play together. Dickey and Berry were the biggest Deadheads in the ABB, and Dickey didn't sit in much while Duane was alive, because he was nervous around Jerry, and worried that if they played together Jerry would think Dickey was copying him. I'm glad he lived to see the release of 6/10/73, though if he posted about it on Instagram, I missed it. He had an incredible Instagram account that would put out archival ABB pics and music and videos, largely in an On This Day format, but really cool content. Dickey Betts was a bad, bad man on the guitar, his piercing, inimitable tone (even on a widely available guitar and amp combo) was a fantastic counterpoint to Duane's more soaring, fluid, and melodic playing. He was great with Jack Pearson, and the one time I saw him with Derek Trucks in the ABB was unbelievably good. They went at it all night, but Dickey's magnificent solo on Back Where It All Begins won the night, just a masterpiece. Time to plug in my tape deck...

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Oh yeah! I ordered the cab, six months ago. Early bird gets the Extra Disc!
P.S. R.I.P. Dickie Betts.
P.P.S. So glad I got that 6/10 show from the Sunshine Box!

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Can't let this occasion pass without saying how sad I am to hear about Dickey. Tried to write something longer about it but got Hey Now'd. Twice. But it's probably just as well. Words fail. Music lives on. So long to one of the truly great ones.

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...Always hoping for a box of all 5 Palladium shows alas it's not to be. I was extremely partial to 5/4 however I've been delving into 5/1 a few songs at a time-all I can say is WOW!!!! Dare I say it could it be that Cornell is overrated? So very grateful that 5/4/77 Set II is getting it's just due as it's been long overdue for the Norman treatment. Now about 51 I'm predicting a trip to a Pig era show namely 4/5/69 a favorite of the immortal LATVALA.

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On archive 5/3 and 5/4 have soundboards that circulate and are available. Same goes for 5/1.

4/29 and 4/30, however, DO NOT.

If those shows are in the vault, which appears to be the case, I wonder why Dave has not blessed us w/ the Norman treatment for them.
These 'return to the Palladium' (first time since '72 when it was called the AoM) shows could have made a nice box, maybe we will get them piecemeal or as a double shot a la Dave's 49 at some point.
A man can dream.
Jamming that hot HSF from 4/29 now.

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Okay JoeyMC: I found the cat. But otherwise clueless as usual – what's the story? Thanks.

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I often forget about that series.

Is there any other place to get that show's betty board?
I missed my chance back when they were released.
finishing 4 29 77 set I decent aud now

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Send me a PM and we will see what we can do.

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this release gives me psychedelic wood

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On your to ob I happened upon at random 7 31 71 which sounds great

God bless the GD

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Got Hey nowed 15 times can't respond

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I like the filler, too. I can always stop listening when I come to the end of one night's music, and put on the next cd.

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But, Happy Bicycle Day everybody!
Dose 'em if you got 'em.
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