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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • #581
    Oroborous
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    Ahhh Berry interesting

    Jonathan, ok, now we’re getting good intel, I.e., video good but audio not.
    Check out both the audio settings on the DVD and the player, sounds like something not synced right. Also, try the ole hard boot: (with the volume down, ahem) pull the plug on the player…wait a minute, then plug back in, hey, EVERYTHING has micro processing now! Then turn volume up to check.
    Guessing a disc setting since your other discs are ok…?

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    2024 1969 Box Set

    10/31/69, 6/27 & 28 69 4/5 & 6/69, 5/30/69, makes for a mighty fine box set. Apparently Dave said they decide what these box sets are going to be 2 or 3 years in advance.

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    Gary Farseer
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    Been chillin

    or shopping for chillum

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    Gary Farseer
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    what oro and colin said, was away from computer a while.

    Bought 65" samsung 4k television on 2020-02-01, arrived that valentine's day. Covid hit and i am immunocompromised due to appendix rupture. So the tv still sits in its box waiting for a friend to come by and help me with it. Hopefully up and running within the next month. I bought it before i truly understood how the makers of tv always have to get to buy the next thing before the next thing is fully realized. Fortunately I got a steal(y) on it, tv, tax, and shipping was $625. Of course any warranty would be almost gone. So I might have an expensive 60 pound box in my house.

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    4k

    My understanding, and I haven't spent as much time on it as conekid, daverock, etc.

    4k has more to do with size. Isn't it always. That is when you have a 40" hdtv that is all you need is an hdtv. When you move to 55" - 85" (if there is one), you need 4k. When you move to a 90" or above you need 8k. That is, the larger the screen the more you need tight pixelization (new word?). They have been trying to push for 8k tv's for a couple of years now. But if you have a smaller screen you dont need more definition as it is baked in. There is but scant true 4k content and yet to date I have not seen an 8k production to date, but I am not looking much.

    So 35mm film can transfer to much lager screens. Forty something years ago I was working at a movie theater and they showed Raiders of the Lost Ark in 70mm. The film was shot in 70mm, one of few. The theater was the only 70mm theater in a 500 mile radius. We had tourists come to watch in 70mm, and I mean it ran for like 6 months. Tourist travel was shocking. Definition so good you can see Harrison Ford eat the fly in that scene. I can only imagine how good that movie will look in 4k and 8k.

    Mileage may vary, I aint no expert.

    Edit: forty something years ago

  • #586
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    Oh

    My GD Movie blu-ray and Giants box blu-ray, both play and sound fantastic!!

    Heres to hoping the Winterland 1974 stuff comes out someday

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    Thank you

    Thanks for all the thoughts and info on dvd players. Really appreciate it.

    I was frustrated that all my dvd's played but my veiw from vaults would only produce picture but no sound. And strangely enough, when I hit fast foward it would play the audio at that speed??

    Anyhow, I understand some folks having a preference for something different in a dvd player, all though, admittedly, I don't know what!!!

    I'm lost on it, personally

    I guess my point is, to me, this is apperas to be a tatic to make folks repurchase things. Even though nothing is avalible but youtube, which has some decent audio but I would have liked the dvd's to work that I bought.

    Thanks again, gang

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    4K again

    I figured the original source film might be adaptable to upscaling, but you'd have to find the master print. Somehow Criterion Collection found a much better print of Seven Samurai between their first DVD version and the 3 DVD version about 15 years later. That transfer was very much welcomed. I just wonder how many of the 4K transfers are finding master prints to put the work into. Sort of like Plangent has been used on a couple of Dave's if I'm not mistaken, and they probably needed it, if they went through the extra time and expense. But if they tried Plangent on a 4th generation Reel, it's akin to polishing a turd. I could see there being wildly mixed results. I'm okay with the dvds and BluRays I have of Lawrence of Arabia and other epics. If Terrence Malick movies look decent on my screen, I'm definitely good. Which reminds me, Malick released The Voyage of Time in 2016, and it's never had a physical media release in the US, so I had to order a German copy, and it did not play in my Region Free player, so had a buddy rip it for me. That made me think about getting yet another BluRay player. That cycle, she's vicious!

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    Like vinyl, digital etc, can be good IF done right.
    With 4K that means watching on a extra large screen, sitting closer than might be comfortable, and with all other gear with proper settings etc, AND, (this is the big caveat) with good, properly done source material!!
    8Ks even worse in that regard.
    For most folks and on the majority of TVs, in the “average” household viewing situation, they aren’t going to see a big, if even noticeable difference.
    But like anything else, if done properly on a big system it can be good.

    Edit: note, similar fuckery happens sometimes with High Res Music: they just copy lower resolution source to Hi res file, not cool Kyle, not cool!
    Always check the lineage/source when purchasing anything “upconverted” or legacy source material that’s rehashed on a higher resolution format!

    This is also one reason why many early CDs sound like crap and gave digital a bad name. They didn’t use the original higher res source masters, that and conversion (Analog to digital etc). Fortunately, digital, especially conversion and DACs have come a long way and if done right can be amazing!

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    Looking online 35mm film has an equivalent resolution of around 5.6k. So more than 4k. So 35mm and 70mm films, properly transferred, should look better on 4k screens and players than on standard Bluray. A problem with some ‘70’s programs/shows is that they were recorded direct to video tape which has inherently poor resolution. This is why programmes like ‘Mork and Mindy’ or ‘Soap’ look terrible on big screens. I have no first hand experience of this because I don’t have a 4k player or television but when my current kit dies I will certainly get them, unless 8k becomes more than a niche product.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Submitted by BedHead77 on Wed, 04/24/2024 - 16:26

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Some folks are grumpy no matter what (dot, etc.)

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 04/24/2024 - 18:15

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88401.miller Playing now.
Yes, I’ll take it as a cleaned up official release.

DaP50 shipping notice received.
Tracking shows that the shipper doesn’t know what I’m talking about.

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Wed, 04/24/2024 - 19:21

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/24/2024 - 20:02

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....I'm a huge tee shirt fan. I would think most of us are. Just got one from that company.
Top shelf quality. I'm looking at you dead dot net.
Don't you dare hey now my ....'s.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Wed, 04/24/2024 - 21:39

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Got my shipping notice AND the GarciaLive notice today--good day.

When this was announced, I pulled out the TATTS and Download Series releases from this tour. I haven't listened to many of the Spring '77 releases, so have been planning a serious go-though where I listen to the shows in order, one each month or so. The announcement of this release made me realize that it was time to do the go-through.

The shows from 4/25/77 and 4/30/77 are top-notch, so now I can absorb this release, then mosey through the entire Spring '77!

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Submitted by ronmarley1 on Thu, 04/25/2024 - 03:23

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I got a shipping notice this time. UPS says, “Wha?” USPS says, “We’re waiting…”

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Submitted by PT Barnum on Thu, 04/25/2024 - 06:24

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Passed yesterday, had a great write up about him but got hay nowed and I said f it
Fix this shat g damn it.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 04/25/2024 - 07:11

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Yes, they seem to be out in force today.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 04/25/2024 - 07:21

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Who can we petition?
Or will we be ignored because we are just a few hundred regular posters and they cannot be bothered to care?
Cheers

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Submitted by TN John on Thu, 04/25/2024 - 08:01

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Long Distance Love: A Sweet Relief Tribute To Lowell George
1 Trouble - Mike Viola
2 Cold, Cold, Cold - Joachim Cooder
3 Long Distance Love - Elvis Costello
4 Heartache - Bedouine
5 Ive Been the One - Bhi Bhiman
6 Rock N Roll Doctor - Miles Tackett
7 Be One Now - Lady Blackbird
8 . Love Needs a Heart - Madison Cunningham
9 Easy to Slip - Jonah Tolchin
10 Dixie Chicken - Eleni Mandell and Milo Jones
11 Roll Um Easy - Ben Harper
12 Lafayette Railroad - Larry Goldings
13 6 Feet of Snow - Jack Shit
14 Cheek to Cheek - Gaby Moreno I Two Trains Running - Chris Seefried
15 China White - Chris Stills
16 A Apolitical Blues - Dave Alvin
17 Feats Dont Fail Me Now - Sugaray Rayford
18 Sailin Shoes - Taylor Goldsmith
19 Spanish Moon - Inara George
20 . Rocket in My Pocket - Sam Morrow
21 Willin - Jonathan Wilson
22 Teenage Nervous Breakdown - the Bird and the Bee
23 Crazy Captain Gunboat Willie - Andras Jones
24 . 20 Million Things to Do - Gus Seyffert
Peace

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 04/25/2024 - 08:06

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because they don't care a scrap

vote with your wallet as that's all you can do

I haven't ordered Mars Hotel because of it

that won't bring them to their knees

and I keep posting

but no more money from me

Hey Chowed several times.

On the way.

Hope you all get yours soon.

Now, which Dave's Picks will sell out first? 46-50 still available.

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Thu, 04/25/2024 - 09:49

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...received. It'll arrive when it arrives. I've learned over the years not to fret over delivery dates. 5/1 and 5/5 were my first two shows, so this is a perfect sandwich. Warming up with San Berdino 2/26 and Capitol Passaic 4/27.
The Lowell George tribute has been ordered.
Off to see Willie Nelson and Family with Asleep at the Wheel tonight.
This is the first of many geezer shows this season. More later.

I've never understood what people mean when they put up a blank post with a little dot in the middle of it. Adedhed's was the most recent. I get the impression the poster isn't happy about something - but what it actually means I have no idea.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Thu, 04/25/2024 - 11:58

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How could you even post that list.

Looks sweet!

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Thu, 04/25/2024 - 12:01

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came 20 minutes after I posted on 4/23.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Thu, 04/25/2024 - 12:07

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Vguy - love the sentiment "You will never regret being kind."

Best way to live life!

That too me is the test or the acid test...are you kind? Great Hunter Thought.

Cheers-that explains it. I used to see things like that floating in the air once upon a time. I never knew what that was all about either.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 04/25/2024 - 17:14

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....yeah boi!
The . in subject then a . in comment usually means the poster retracted the statement they posted originally. Rethinking the comment? Double post? Oopsie? I think I might come across as an asshole?
I'm guilty of all four.

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 04/26/2024 - 03:20

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They're everywhere once you start thinking about them. They'll be teaching them in schools next.

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Submitted by JoeyMC on Fri, 04/26/2024 - 06:33

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Some time last year I got one on time, I guess I had my fill for a while. I really hope somebody gets one today.

Been pondering getting a customized license plate, various ideas (has to be maximum of seven letters):

1) MICRODT

2) DROPOUT

3) MKULTRA

4 TUNE-IN or TURN-ON

With 2 vehicles it might be good to use maybe tune-in and turn-on, or turn-on and dropout dot dot dot

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 04/26/2024 - 08:00

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rock and roll hall of fame

one of the biggest jokes ever

mary j blige
cher

but Motorhead question mark

no

can you say travesty qm

If I had my way I would tear that old building down

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Submitted by Chuck on Fri, 04/26/2024 - 08:05

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This is so frustrating Getting Hey Nowed for?????????

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 04/26/2024 - 08:08

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my sense is that it has to do with all caps and punctuation

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Submitted by cactus68 on Fri, 04/26/2024 - 09:09

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A spring '77 that hasn't sold out yet? Time to remaster all Dicks Picks with Plangent process, remix, remaster and reissue .

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Fri, 04/26/2024 - 10:55

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I never could figure out why the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame needed to exist. It's nice when, once in a while, a talented band or artist that's generally overlooked by the masses is inducted. Like say when the Stooges got in. But most of the time it's just "honoring" somebody who's already well known and already very rich already had plenty of honors.

It's certainly not about excellence, or influence. Gram Parsons isn't in there. Neither is King Crimson. Each has contributed recordings that are indisputable classics and launched entire genres of music.

And these days it's not even about rock and roll. Nothing against country or hip hop, but artists that excel in those genres don't belong in a rock hall of fame.

I wouldn't worry too much about DaP sales. If these were still limited edition runs of 12,000, they'd still sell out instantly. And reappear on the Bay for five times the list price. Fine with me if they take a year to sell out now.

But I do like the idea of revisiting some of the DiPs. I think it goes without saying the sound could be significantly improved over what was possible 25 years ago. Come on Powers That Be, make it happen!

Dot is all.

Always a good discussion, as of now (& subject to change)

1) GOGD
2) ABB
3) Yes
4) Rush
5) Pink Floyd
6) the Beatles
7) Phish
8) WsP
9) Little Feat
10) Genesis

Now listening pleasure is a different thing. Listen to 95% GOGD, or Jerry, sometimes Kingfish. Second would be ABB, third Phish, 4th Little Feat, fifth WsP.

That causes unnecessary brain fatigue. But, time to start the jams!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 04/26/2024 - 12:07

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saw a car with a rush sticker and a second one that read 2112 in the font like 26 dot 2 for marathon runners

I thought about the Rushies here

One more re Rock Hall

John Lydon called it a piss stain

indeed

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Submitted by gratefulgerd on Fri, 04/26/2024 - 12:31

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Wonder too, why Gram Parsons is not inducted, a pioneer.
But Madonna made it.
How is Rock 'N' Roll defined?
G.

Listen to GD 99% of the time.
Then Jerry.
Then a variety including Hendrix, Rush, Floyd, Feat, ABB, Who, Zep, Stones, etc.
A favorite that is underrated is Hard Working Americans.

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Submitted by ronmarley1 on Fri, 04/26/2024 - 19:43

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I live 18 mins. from the RRHOF, and most here in CLE consider it a joke. I’ve been exactly once, when the special Grateful Dead exhibit was running. It was cool to see Dick’s reel to reel machine. It was years before the inductions were actually held in Cleveland. And the NY a-holes thought it was better to induct the home-town favorite NY bands like The Stooges and The Ramones before Rush and Motörhead. As Alex Lifeson said during his induction speech, “Blahblahblahblah…”. Silliness…

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