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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • proudfoot
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    If any of y'all had the good fortune to...

    be at Electric on the Eel in 87, the envy is all mine

  • Oroborous
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    Fall 91

    I love 9/26/91, I think I liked it better than the 25.
    9/10/91 was part of Boxilla.
    I listened to the whole tour in order 3 years ago, here’s what I came up with…

    Possible Fall 1991 Box (the last consistently good tour?)

    9/6/91
    9/8/91
    9/16/91*
    9/22/91
    9/24/91
    9/26/91*
    10/31/91*

    Favorite/must haves*
    7 Shows
    66 one time songs: really good selection!
    16 Repeats
    6 Threepeats
    (Not including D&S)

    The three peats are: Dar Star, Attics, Let It Grow, Saint, Stranger, and Good Lovin’

    The repeats are: Spoonful, Dark Star Jam, Wang Dang, Candyman, Maggie’s, Standing on Moon, Last Time, Stella, Samson, Eyes, TOO, Bertha, All Over Now, Heaven’s Door, Minglewood, and A&A. Hey, no matter how you slice em, Bobs ALWAYS gonna have repeats!

    9/17 and other Oakland and Richfield are probably worthy, but then you start getting into more repeats and perhaps too big a box?

    Works all done, Fire it up!
    Yer welcome ; )

    Going 84 Dark Star tonight!

  • proudfoot
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    9 25 91

    I was quite grumpy about that release back in the day

    Haven't listened for a loooooong time

    It's time to check it out again

  • Obeah
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    There are a lot of shows I'd have my ears on before 9/26/91. That Fall tour comprises eighteen shows spanning just three cities (3 in Richfield, 9 in NYC, 6 in Boston), all in September '91, with the 26th being the tour closer. Now, if my facts are accurate, Dave has only released one show from Boston - Vol. 21, 4/2/73 - which also happens to be the end of the tour.

    But I've always wondered at the selection of 9/25 as Dick's Picks Vol 17. By that point, of course, Latvala was dead and gone, so this was a Dave's pick in all but name. (I mean then again Dick had all those notebooks and maybe he had this one slated for release.) It does feature "That Would Be Something", the first Grateful Dead version of the song and the only rendition with Bruce. For that matter it was the only one for another two years, until the song entered the occasional rotation in mid-1993. But idk, I caught it once (at San Diego in Dec '93) and, well, it's a nice little tune but it didn't rock my world, ya know? (Although after all these years I can still hear Garcia singing the refrain - though I seem to recall he sang it as "pouring rain" rather than "falling") And anyway, the rest of that set II just never really wowed me. That said, I've never heard a note of 9/26. And the setlist is certainly promising. So maybe they ginned up some lightning in a bottle for that tour ender. Or... or... maybe this is just an unfounded rumor.

  • Obeah
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    Phish Vegas '04 and a 20-year hiatus

    I was there that weekend. I remember being puzzled by the shows and the music. I agree with Alvarhanso that there were some good moments, but I too cannot remember them specifically. What I mostly remember is this deepening sadness as the weekend went on. I kept waiting for the magic to happen, but across that stand there were just some fleeting flashes of formerly glory that felt like parlor tricks rather than anything sustained and powerful. I do recall we were all puzzled that Kuroda wasn't there...

    Nevertheless, after seeing Phish live each year since '92 (I mean other than the hiatus) my disappointment was so profound that by the time we flew out of Mc Carran on Sunday, I told myself that I was done seeing Phish. And I took my own 20 year hiatus. It wasn't until the Sphere shows this past April that I finally looked in on Phish again. And I was glad I did, because they weren't the same band I'd seen in Vegas on that fateful weekend... they were better, much, much better.

  • Oroborous
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    Hey O’

    Daverock with the coffee chortle of the month! 😂

  • dmcvt
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    may it be reel, 1/21

    that would mean they recovered the missing reels... Smokestack Lightning, H2H, a 25 minute TOO... the aud thats here is boomy, too much ambient noise, thrilling to have a clean, though doesn't quite fit with Dave's early hints.

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    Maybe it will be another one from Spring 1977, and Dave's a bit nervous about making the announcement.

  • alvarhanso
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    Phish Vegas April 2004

    The Phish went into Vegas in April 2004 for 3 shows to start the year, coming off a good to great 2003 return from hiatus, and the Vegas shows were universally panned as awful. Addiction issues were likely causes (not just Trey), and those shows were supposedly big reasons for the breakup that was set for August 2004 after a festival at Coventry, VT, which turned into its own muddy debacle and poor way to go out. 5 years later, they returned, with a newly sober Trey, and they refocused and have been much, much better since then. 2004 still had some good moments, even those Vegas shows had a couple good moments (couldn't tell you what they were as I last listened to them 20 years ago now), but I would imagine folks here know how that can go. So, it was very good that they took the appropriate time apart, got themselves in better spots mentally, physically, whatever, and came back stronger.

    Eta: I would much rather Doc's prediction of 1971 than of 9/26/91. Not opposed to 1991, I'd just rather it be a 4 disc Greensboro 1991.

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    Oh for quality recordings of both those shows

    Ja, gerne

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Andy W I l l i a m s

50 made it to to Denver day and a half via U P S now we w a i t on pins and needles to see if U S P s loses it, drops it on the floor, or just get around to it for a couple weeks as they purposely it seems do not scan it until ? W h e n e v e r if ever, which by the time a customer finds out, is too late.
Yeah, great service folks! Why would you turn down additional revenue via alternative shipping choices? F@#$ the USPS contract!

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…I hope all is well with all our brothers and sisters here on the dead forum! Been enjoying this May 77’ Show for a couple days now! LOVE’N number 522 /25000 and the Bonus Disc Art! The Bonus Disc Cover Art is Sweet! The artwork is in the style of “New York City”graffiti”(spray paint ) and most importantly as always the audio quality is Primo! I’m truly grateful for all the hard work getting everything just right!!! My tubes love it ;audio system. Sounds beautiful recording and the Dead are on Fire! I mean they are so tight in their playing! Everyone Shines On Thru with this performance! The dead members all playing together in pure expression of joy! Good Ol Grateful Dead always played wonderfully on their east coast tour’s & performances/concerts! Everyone is really focused on music coming together it’s really a joy ride! “Jack straw” is over the top! An excellent version of this much loved song!
As David points out the second set is where it’s at! Overall a 5 star release in my opinion.
I don’t want to spoil any surprises yet but there is something very special about this performance! I’m truly grateful to be able to add this musical magic to my collection! Disk 3 is what dreams are made of! Bravo! Praying everyone receives their orders soon with no problems.
Terrapin station on the bonus disc is super primo, an amazing arrangement by the band!
Wishing everyone a grateful day & peace be with you all! Long love the Good Ol Grateful Dead, Rock on! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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And you got yours

And if not yet

May you get yours Monday

:)))

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first thing i noticed is a little gold leaf bling added to the circle around the dave's picks title. nice! im typing all lower case to try the heynow theory that upper case gets the hn.

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39 years ago I was up at the Frost Amphitheatre for the start of a great weekend with the Good old Grateful Dead. The Dead played great. The Frost is only about 10 miles from my house, so very easy to get there.. Fun times.

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Bonus disc cover art

I see graffiti all over Seattle

I want to break every taggers fingers

And here is a doofus Deadhead spraypainting

I'll fix you good you little good for nothing punk

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12757 ~of~ 25K has arrived in Tigard, "just a bit outside" of PdXs.
Funny thing, the mail notice said it wasn't coming till Monday. So Another positive surprise.
A thought on the bonus disc cover; Though it's not as awesome as the 2021 or 2023 bonus disc covers, it's as least as good as 2022. As for the 'Tagger' on the cover......Look, I know some folks are sick of graffiti and much of the modern artwork {too many wannabes and amateurs} is questionable at best. One has to transcend themselves to a late 1970's NY city where the urban blight and steel grey was all enveloping across the city. That's till the New York City youth decorated the drab with graffiti art of a higher standard and quality. So to me the tagger makes sense. Oh yeah, they got the classic 'I Love NY' done with a bolt too! Too cool, too cool!

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....there are graffiti "artists". Then there are graffiti ARTISTS!
Just sayin'.
50 will be here Monday. Relistened to 43 last night and finished it this morning 🌄.
It's Knight Time. Turning on the telly.

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Gary Farseer, A HUGE Thank You for sharing the quote, You will never regret being kind. Not sure who to attribute that to, but I think I will live with that one for the rest of my life. Lots of positivity to that! If anyone knows more of where that originally came from, I would appreciate learning.

Hope everyone has a happy, beautiful and peaceful day.

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Regarding Trower, Some of you recently posted earlier, if you are not aware already, Bridge of Sighs 50th Anniversary, 3 cd's and 1 dvd. If you familiar with the tracks, you know many tracks fade, the new version contains longer versions that would not fit on the lp. Cool stuff!

Hope everyone has a happy, beautiful and peaceful day.

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Regarding Trower, Some of you recently posted earlier, if you are not aware already, Bridge of Sighs 50th Anniversary, 3 cd's and 1 dvd. If you familiar with the tracks, you know many tracks fade, the new version contains longer versions that would not fit on the lp. Cool stuff!

Hope everyone has a happy, beautiful and peaceful day.

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WTF?

I try my best every year to support CANADALAND.

This is just nonsense. You know that.

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....new song.
Life As A Tree.
Nice comeback by the Knights being outshot 3X to tie it.

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I know you’re up at this hour. As should be all hockey fans.

Your VGKs look awesome. Big, fast and skilled. Nice trade moves at the end of the season.

Mike, just to remind you. The leafs suck again. Again.

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Pancho-thanks for the tip-that looks like a good 'un. Also whoever recommended The Gun Club's "Fire of Love" 2cd set ( Crow?) knew what they were talking about.
I haven't got Dave'50 - but just to show I'm not completely out of the loop, I did play 5/7/77 yesterday - a great show, especially from Mississippi Half Step onwards.

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Definitely a great NYC run! I attended the Saturday night performance at the Palladium on 4/30/77 - released as Download Series Volume #1... Can't go wrong with any '77 Spring show for release. Just get it over with and release the whole tour... I'll never forget Jerry's interview in Rolling Stone at the time... Jerry said 'the band was horny to play'. Boy, was that an understatement.

....lmao.
I fell asleep in my chair during overtime. Woke up at 1 AM and they were replaying the game. I thought for a couple of seconds, "damn. Five overtimes?"

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Powerful show

Any recommendations for GD 87 88 89?

....to Go To Heaven.
Cranking Antwerps Placebo.
You should too.
1989 recommendations? Cal Expo.
Playin' -> Fire.
1988 recommendations? Monterey. Complete Playin'. Although I misses the Friday show.
The lot was abuzz when we pulled in Saturday afternoon.

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6-22-91

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Fantastic player and singer with his own, very unique style!
He started in the early 50s, wrote some classic tunes(New Camptown Races, Leave Well Enough Alone, etc.), also composed some neo-classical pieces where he used different tunings. His recordings with Red Allen(some produced by David Grisman) are outstanding, so was his tenure with the Greenbriar Boys.
He was a member of the Good Old Boy, which Garcia produced in 1975.
Got to see him in various San Francisco venues in the 70s, at the Other Cafe, and a great birthday celebration at the Great American Music-Hall hosted by David Grisman. Will miss him.

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39 years ago today I was at another great show at the Frost Ampitheatre. Between the Frost, Geek and Ventura, I saw saw some great shows in 1985. Fun times.

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I have not been able to get a post through Hey Now for a couple months. Trying again. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I visited the museum and enjoyed it immensely years ago. Such a great collection on display. Jerry's guitars were in the lobby so anyone can see them without paying. Inside they had plenty of good GD stuff on display (I remember seeing Pigpen's hat and harmonica), but amazing artifacts from every major player in rock history.

Now, the induction into the HoF is ridiculous. I gave up on caring about that decades ago when it became a general music HoF rather than a rock and roll HoF. Just my 2 cents.

Looking forward to 50, hoping to receive it today. The bonus disc, again.... looks positively amazing.

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I get really bummed when I think it's coming, and then it dosen't :(
I'm listening to Dave's Picks 9 for now.

It seems the Jerry people have put an end to Amazon pre-orders of the Garcia Live cds. I always felt a little scummy doing it, but it saves five dollars on a seventeen dollar set.

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The playing comes at you in waves. More than any other tour as a band. Sitting in my living room this weekend was akin to sitting on a fifty mile long Pacific beach awash with waves of endless size and intensity. David Crosby compared the band to a pack of wolves running through the forest. Agreed. But not necessarily for May 77.

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I remember thinking that at the time. But like most GD albums, it's better than most people think. Then again, like all GD (studio) albums, it's not as good the live versions. And I never liked that cover, so ... whatever.

My copy of 50 is supposed to come tomorrow. Which is good timing. Wife's out of town, I don't gotta work, so I can pull that thing out of shrink wrap, roast a bowl, and listen to it straight through, probably. Life is good, my friends.

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...cause that's where 50 landed today.
#17667 with bonus disc found it's forever home.
My Bertha pipe is loaded and ready.
Time to roast her and get this thing started!
Peace

Dave's Picks Volume 50, with bonus disc landed in my mailbox today.
2087/25000 I love the artwork, especially in the bonus disc, and the little bit of gold foil on the Dave's Picks logo.
I ain't gonna dance on my street, but I'll swirl in my apartment campus parking lot!
Thanks, Dave & the Rhino crew!

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I just realized the graffiti guy on the bonus disc is also on the #50 cover. Down in the left bottom corner of the album art in the alleyway by the corner of the brick building. The cat too!

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Oh lord, I’m stuck in Rossford again.
Friggin USPS Mail Innovations. Gets to Rossford, OH and it sits in a truck until it’s full, then it heads to Cleveland. Been there since Saturday. Hope I get it by Friday.

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All ripped in and rolling!

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....required 50% down.
7K.
Housekeepers unite!
Always tip when I travel.
The cover gives me The Fifth Element vibes, which is cool.
Nice Playin' into Comes A Time.

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That TMNS to end the first set is outrageous! Top tier. Settling for the listening party while it sails past me to go to Denver. Thursday if I'm lucky.
Cheers

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I was watching "Glory Stompers", a pre-Easy Rider movie with Dennis Hopper made in 1967. Jody McCrea, son of actor Joel McCrea, was also in this outlaw biker movie. I started reading about Jody's movie history and he was in a bunch of Frankie/Annette beach movies. His character was Deadhead, but I never heard any of the bands' music in these movies. Maybe his character never went to the Matrix or Family Dog, or possibly they cut those scenes out during editing. Does anyone remember the GOGD ever appearing in Beach Blanket Bingo? I thought I heard Rosemary during one of the surfing scenes.

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#322 arrived safe and sound - haven't got a number this low since DaP38. Will rip it tonight. Looks like there's at least 22145 that subscribe...

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I guess this means no official release for 5/4/74...

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Frost, Greek, Ventura and everything in-between ... some great fun in the 80's! .........tcc

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....like 400 thread count Egyptian bedsheets.
If you know, you know.
Edit.
You bozos heard of Grateful Fred? Some cool ass shit on that site.
You want bolts in ice cube form?
I did/do.
Back to hockey talk? OK. I've noticed cool new camera angles this postseason.
I'm especially fond of the 3D'ish face off one.
Edit. That 3rd Stars goal was puck luck defined lol. Game in the background. The Palladium in the foreground. As it should be.

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