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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • proudfoot
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    If any of y'all had the good fortune to...

    be at Electric on the Eel in 87, the envy is all mine

  • Oroborous
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    Fall 91

    I love 9/26/91, I think I liked it better than the 25.
    9/10/91 was part of Boxilla.
    I listened to the whole tour in order 3 years ago, here’s what I came up with…

    Possible Fall 1991 Box (the last consistently good tour?)

    9/6/91
    9/8/91
    9/16/91*
    9/22/91
    9/24/91
    9/26/91*
    10/31/91*

    Favorite/must haves*
    7 Shows
    66 one time songs: really good selection!
    16 Repeats
    6 Threepeats
    (Not including D&S)

    The three peats are: Dar Star, Attics, Let It Grow, Saint, Stranger, and Good Lovin’

    The repeats are: Spoonful, Dark Star Jam, Wang Dang, Candyman, Maggie’s, Standing on Moon, Last Time, Stella, Samson, Eyes, TOO, Bertha, All Over Now, Heaven’s Door, Minglewood, and A&A. Hey, no matter how you slice em, Bobs ALWAYS gonna have repeats!

    9/17 and other Oakland and Richfield are probably worthy, but then you start getting into more repeats and perhaps too big a box?

    Works all done, Fire it up!
    Yer welcome ; )

    Going 84 Dark Star tonight!

  • proudfoot
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    9 25 91

    I was quite grumpy about that release back in the day

    Haven't listened for a loooooong time

    It's time to check it out again

  • Obeah
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    There are a lot of shows I'd have my ears on before 9/26/91. That Fall tour comprises eighteen shows spanning just three cities (3 in Richfield, 9 in NYC, 6 in Boston), all in September '91, with the 26th being the tour closer. Now, if my facts are accurate, Dave has only released one show from Boston - Vol. 21, 4/2/73 - which also happens to be the end of the tour.

    But I've always wondered at the selection of 9/25 as Dick's Picks Vol 17. By that point, of course, Latvala was dead and gone, so this was a Dave's pick in all but name. (I mean then again Dick had all those notebooks and maybe he had this one slated for release.) It does feature "That Would Be Something", the first Grateful Dead version of the song and the only rendition with Bruce. For that matter it was the only one for another two years, until the song entered the occasional rotation in mid-1993. But idk, I caught it once (at San Diego in Dec '93) and, well, it's a nice little tune but it didn't rock my world, ya know? (Although after all these years I can still hear Garcia singing the refrain - though I seem to recall he sang it as "pouring rain" rather than "falling") And anyway, the rest of that set II just never really wowed me. That said, I've never heard a note of 9/26. And the setlist is certainly promising. So maybe they ginned up some lightning in a bottle for that tour ender. Or... or... maybe this is just an unfounded rumor.

  • Obeah
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    Phish Vegas '04 and a 20-year hiatus

    I was there that weekend. I remember being puzzled by the shows and the music. I agree with Alvarhanso that there were some good moments, but I too cannot remember them specifically. What I mostly remember is this deepening sadness as the weekend went on. I kept waiting for the magic to happen, but across that stand there were just some fleeting flashes of formerly glory that felt like parlor tricks rather than anything sustained and powerful. I do recall we were all puzzled that Kuroda wasn't there...

    Nevertheless, after seeing Phish live each year since '92 (I mean other than the hiatus) my disappointment was so profound that by the time we flew out of Mc Carran on Sunday, I told myself that I was done seeing Phish. And I took my own 20 year hiatus. It wasn't until the Sphere shows this past April that I finally looked in on Phish again. And I was glad I did, because they weren't the same band I'd seen in Vegas on that fateful weekend... they were better, much, much better.

  • Oroborous
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    Hey O’

    Daverock with the coffee chortle of the month! 😂

  • dmcvt
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    may it be reel, 1/21

    that would mean they recovered the missing reels... Smokestack Lightning, H2H, a 25 minute TOO... the aud thats here is boomy, too much ambient noise, thrilling to have a clean, though doesn't quite fit with Dave's early hints.

  • daverock
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    Maybe it will be another one from Spring 1977, and Dave's a bit nervous about making the announcement.

  • alvarhanso
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    Phish Vegas April 2004

    The Phish went into Vegas in April 2004 for 3 shows to start the year, coming off a good to great 2003 return from hiatus, and the Vegas shows were universally panned as awful. Addiction issues were likely causes (not just Trey), and those shows were supposedly big reasons for the breakup that was set for August 2004 after a festival at Coventry, VT, which turned into its own muddy debacle and poor way to go out. 5 years later, they returned, with a newly sober Trey, and they refocused and have been much, much better since then. 2004 still had some good moments, even those Vegas shows had a couple good moments (couldn't tell you what they were as I last listened to them 20 years ago now), but I would imagine folks here know how that can go. So, it was very good that they took the appropriate time apart, got themselves in better spots mentally, physically, whatever, and came back stronger.

    Eta: I would much rather Doc's prediction of 1971 than of 9/26/91. Not opposed to 1991, I'd just rather it be a 4 disc Greensboro 1991.

  • proudfoot
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    Oh for quality recordings of both those shows

    Ja, gerne

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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This show definitely has more spunk than 5/3. I can just feel the energy in the room.
And I really like that disjointed Half Step opener!
Purple Pyramids? Takes me back to the summer of '80. Had some real good times.
Camping in the Blue Ridge Mountains, body surfing at Hattaras, or just hanging out and reading Zap Comix with good friends and good vibes.

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Yesterday I was reading the June issue of ‘The Wire’ with an article about Shellac and today I see that Steve Albini has died. Bad timing with the new album.

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This release is exceptional. I never post but could not resist. Hearing for the first time made me lol at how good it is. Thanks to the team for getting it to us!

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Spring '71
Fall '79
YES a coupla great shows indeed!!!!

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....did no one on the "popular" board wish Bill The Drummer a Happy Birthday yesterday?
We all slacking yo.

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Happy Birthday to Billy! Hellava Drummer. 78 sun trips now, I will remember that from here on out as I was jamming to Boston 5/7~1977 Yesterday & of course some Cornell today. Dancing in the Street!

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Some one should've cast the blame on the "Hey Now" about Bill's absent B~Day wishes. Now seriously, I've got a theory. Every time I try to post some "T.M.I." about my futures speculations on Dave's picks. I get the Hey Now.

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...STEP BACK...
...AND THEN YET ANOTHER STEP BACK...
...Doesn't that feel better...

for today's listening enjoyment, backin' up the truck to 1977-05-07 boston garden, this should get me thru my almost 3 hour grass cutting chore for today :]

Peace All!
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Happy belated Birthday Billy!

I always loved Garcia's line on how Billy got in the band. Something to the effect of I couldn't understand a word he was staying so we asked him to be our drummer.

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Good call Proudfoot. I love this rockin' raw period. And a great quote from Jerry "We have Pigpen with us but we forgot to bring an organ..." How I would love to go back in time and follow these guys.

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Hey rockers!!

3/24/71: Weir’s cryptic “Code Seminole, check 3 check 3 check 1, Red Dog over, proceed plan Dakota…”

Actually, a very solid show, especially the Pigpen material, organ or no organ. Also the Truckin'/Other One is crunchy. Always worth a listen and would make a nice official release some day..........

Inner space is so much more interesting, because outer space is so empty.....

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… two primo picks my brother! For 71’ and 11/24/79 is a favorite of mine!

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So I guess it’s Sheldon Keefe’s fault that Marner doesn’t back-check.

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...that this is a really great release. This show is as good as anything from the tour. Actually, that applies to both shows included in this release along with the bonus disc.

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Has been a favorite of mine for many years. My all time favorite Hard To Handle. Crackles with energy.

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Started listening to the RT series a while back when it was the hot topic. Lots of good music, and I rarely listen a Bob cowboy song, so worked out for me. <Hey Now Test>

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37 years ago today I was at Laguna Seca Raceway having a great time with the Good old Grateful Dead. Great show! Bill Kreutzmann dedicated He's Gone to the memory of Paul Butterfield.. The Dead came out after the show and filmed the Touch of Grey video.

GD87 is a year I rarely listen to

I will try 5 9

only show I attended in 87 was 7 19 87

GD were so so

Dylan and Grateful Dead together was priceless

....Dave's 38 - Nassau.
Metallica-....And Justice For All
Pearl Jam - VS
King Gizzard And The Lizard Wizard - Fishing For Fishies (vinyl)
BOC - Secret Treaties (new 180g vinyl release)
All bangers imo.
Stop what you are doing. Right now. And find BOC's Flaming Telepaths. Somewhere. Anywhere. And tell me what your thoughts are on that song.
Soooo good.
Edit....Let Me Sing Your Blues Away from DaP 38 just started. Surprise!

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I did very much enjoy DaP49. The first disc of 50 to my ear was a bit slow and sloppy, if still good (is anything from 1977 NOT at least "good"?). Then the Might As Well starts a bit slow and sloppy, only to find some real energy towards the end. Then Estimated gets quite lovely and suddenly--SUGAREE! Wow. Then everything is just top-notch, with a stellar Wharf Rat. Good stuff, Maynard!

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I bet most of us got the email from the G_D today, this week at D_ead Ne_t. I noticed they are not steering readers to this site for the first time in a while on one of these emails, my guess is because of the Hey Meow banter and dissatisfaction with their web policies.

A missed opportunity during a time of declining sales.

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Love it.. love it.. love it.. great show(s), great sound - moore may 77.. BW from Copenhagen

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. . . but very cool. "The Clubhouse Sessions - Episode 1" (google it!). Fly-on-the-wall-view of Phil rehearsing with Grahame, Nicki Bluhm, Daniel Donato, John Molo & Holly Bowling . Keep on bombin' Phil!

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Just never stops, can't even finish my post, think I'm done here

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You think someone would wake up and say.. hey, maybe the kind heads on dread n_et actually know what they are talking about and our new IT director and brainchild of the new web architecture Bozola the clown aka Dr. Hey No_w is smoking a bit too much crack.

You're right Burnsy, it's a shame to see some of the really good-natured fun people get fed up and leave. People best at spreading infectious enthusiasm that fuels this place and surely improves sales.

It just never stops.

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It would help if we just knew the rules which are way past you can't put in a web address, etc. The randomness is very frustrating. Which word is getting me HNed?
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I agree 1,000 percent that we should have either resolution or some goddamned actual rules about what words can or can't be posted. What symbols will be flagged. Don't just piss off your literal customer base by making us deal with this shit for literally months. We put up with some ridiculous excuses on Warehouse migration issues that affected releases years after the warehouse was moved into, so at some point it would be nice to get a sense of what the hell is going on, and why it cannot be fixed easily and more quickly than months. As an act of protest, I am getting Mars Hotel 50th and zoetrope disc from Jeff Bezos.

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This Hey Now stuff. Hey now seems to have started as a fun play on Iko, now it can be torturous.

We got the crickets and cicadas singing like crazy. Wonder what it is like around Illinois where they are getting the double brood. The mighty locust chomp then the birds get a double meal.

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Received on April 27th.

First listen on anniversary dates, Niiiiice!

And love 1989-05-07. The first true dive to go deep in Midi with D/S. Just listen to D/S intro into the other 1. Amazing Sounds and transition. It was a big deal back then because it was the first time Phil played the opening bars of The Other One in a long while, if memory serves...

Billy's 43

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We’re going to finish up and send you on your way with one more “Other One intro” show, but one that’s a little less widely known. It’s actually the last of the 14 Grateful Dead shows in the intimate, forest-like setting of Frost Amphitheater on the Stanford University campus in the 1980s. It just so happened to be Kreutzmann’s 43rd birthday, and this Sunday afternoon show was solid and enjoyable. But makes the cut here, though, because of 12 shining minutes in the second set that showed that the band still knew how to experiment, explore, and blow a few minds in the process.

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Hell Noed

Can look up title, ill keep trying

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