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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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    DaP #51 info on your DaP subscription order page

    I won't spoil it. If you want to know, go to your DaP 2024 order confirmation email from last year and click on the order number. That will take you to the CHECK ORDER page. Enter the order number, your email, and zip code and you'll see a receipt with all the details.

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    ....ooooh. A Klipsch R-120SW subwoofer for $240?
    Sign me up.

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    A punk band I forgot to list

    China White

    Their album Danger Zone ROCKS

    X is categorized as punk, but I just call 'em rock n roll

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    My punk dayz....

    ....finally getting around to organizing my record collection. Quite the task. I have over 300 records going back to my teenage days and just starting getting back into them as you know.
    Holy flashback Batman. Stumbled across some T.S.O.L., Cramps, Misfits, Corrosion Of Conformity, Agent Orange and Subhumans records I bought decades ago. They still hold up.
    According to discogs, some of the Misfits records I own are worth a pretty penny. Not that I would ever sell them.

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    The Stooges (the ones with Iggy, not Larry and Curly) loomed over punk in the US in a huge way, too. It was almost impossible to go to a punk gig in 1977 and not hear at least one Stooges cover. (My own proto punk band played I'm Loose and No Fun. Very poorly!) The Stooges and the Velvet Underground and the NY Dolls were really the foundation, along with the '60s garage bands.

    And btw, there was a fair amount of give and take in those early days between punk and various brands of psychedelia, including the Dead. Punks were supposed to hate hippies, but in reality we were often on the same drugs and disliked a lot of the same things. Greg Ginn of Black Flag was a big deadhead, for instance. Also, my LSD connection was a hippie neighbor who one day shaved his long hair and 'went punk.' after a gig by X. Lee Renaldo of Sonic Youth was a deadhead, lots of others.

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    70's punk- The Stooges

    Iggy and The Stooges were massively influential in England during the second half of the 70's. In some ways, as Chuck Berry was to the 60's, they were to the 70's. Starting with Nick Kent's article in the NME in 1972 about their legendary show at Kings Cross, in London, to Raw Power the following year and the discovery of their first two albums. Their tracks, No Fun and 1970 were covered The Sex Pistols and The Damned, among others, but nobody came close really.
    When Iggy finally toured England, in 1977, it was one of the most eagerly anticipated rock events I have ever witnessed. Unfortunately - despite having David Bowie on keyboards - his moment had clearly passed. Still good - but not quite what he had been.

    The New York Dolls were important too. appearing on the rock programme "The Old Grey Whistle Test" circa 1973. After a blistering and shambolic "Jet Boy" and "Looking For A Kiss" they were put down by a visibly bemused, and slightly miffed Bob Harris as "mock rock". The 1970's were taking shape!

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    Gummies...

    It just (duh) dawned on me where all the extra glue bits came from on the HCS box CDs

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    Hey Dave!!!

    Listened to Dave's#40 - Deer Creek this past weekend. Even though I had listened to it several times, it really floored me. Nice Pick Indeed! Some great playing and the recording Dan captured is top notch.

    I was much more in the active listener mode instead groove pilot.

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    Great write-up. Especially for someone like me that was on a different musical direction. Always admired the Ramones for what they did and their history. What playing the Roundhouse in London in 1976? And more importantly, from my perspective, they never strayed to far from their charter.

    Did I see the NYDolls in their, cant remember.

    So for me, who has never been in a mosh pit, it was very enlightening!!!

    Now how much will I remember? That has become the question.

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    What's It To Ya, Punk?

    Seventies punk is kind of an obsession for me, partly because it was maybe the only key moment in rock history that I had a mosh pit view of. I was around for a lot of the earliest gigs by LA area bands like X, Black Flag, Social D, and I saw the West Coast club debuts of everybody from Patti to Television, the Damned, Clash etc. Fun times!

    So I would say that when people first started using the term "punk" to describe what was happening, it was because they were referring to the way a bunch of scruffy upstart bands who were rebelling against the corporate rock status quo of the mid-'70s and trying to overthrow the established order, even though they didn't seem to have the wherewithal (ie, money, connections, looks etc) to do it. I think "punk" being used in the way it was used in gangster noir movies: the "punk" is the small time hood with big ambitions who is almost certainly doomed to be crushed by the mob, the police, the power structure.

    It wasn't really a musical style. Which is why that first wave of "punk" included artists as diverse as Patti, Television, Talking Heads, Deco, Pete Ubu, Suicide, and yes, the Ramones. I think what happened, as Daverock said, is that the Ramones offered a blueprint of what "punk rock" sounded like, and it was one that was easily copied, even by people who'd never picked up a guitar until yesterday. If you liked the Ramones, you could get together a couple friends, learn three chords, and start a band. And dozens and dozens (if not hundreds) did. Suddenly there was lots of bands that sounded like that in every town, and that was taken to be what "punk" was.

    About Television specifically: I personally think they took too long to record, and as a result we missed out on hearing the earliest version of the band, when Richard Hell was still a member and when they sounded a lot more raw and basic in a way we associate with punk. If you're curious, look up the Ork Loft recordings, a video made in 1974, and you'll see what I mean. That's what they sounded like when they'd been together for about a year. They did some demos with Eno after Hell left the band in December ''74, which are a lot more polished. And then they didn't record their Elektra album till September 1976. By which time they were one the tightest bands you'll ever hear, and not much like what we think of as "punk."

    Anyway. I would recommend hearing EVERYTHING Television ever did. Marquee Moon is a stone classic, the follow up, Adventure, much under-rated, and the live boots and Eno demos are all really good too. Even the reunion stuff is worth hearing.

    Sorry for the long post. I warned you I was kind of obsessed with this stuff.

    And, hey, Dave, where's that announcement?

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Wed, 05/08/2024 - 09:24

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This show definitely has more spunk than 5/3. I can just feel the energy in the room.
And I really like that disjointed Half Step opener!
Purple Pyramids? Takes me back to the summer of '80. Had some real good times.
Camping in the Blue Ridge Mountains, body surfing at Hattaras, or just hanging out and reading Zap Comix with good friends and good vibes.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Wed, 05/08/2024 - 09:48

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Yesterday I was reading the June issue of ‘The Wire’ with an article about Shellac and today I see that Steve Albini has died. Bad timing with the new album.

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Submitted by Erikandjenn on Wed, 05/08/2024 - 10:01

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This release is exceptional. I never post but could not resist. Hearing for the first time made me lol at how good it is. Thanks to the team for getting it to us!

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Wed, 05/08/2024 - 17:50

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Spring '71
Fall '79
YES a coupla great shows indeed!!!!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 05/08/2024 - 19:01

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....did no one on the "popular" board wish Bill The Drummer a Happy Birthday yesterday?
We all slacking yo.

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Submitted by RyXs on Wed, 05/08/2024 - 23:42

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Happy Birthday to Billy! Hellava Drummer. 78 sun trips now, I will remember that from here on out as I was jamming to Boston 5/7~1977 Yesterday & of course some Cornell today. Dancing in the Street!

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Submitted by RyXs on Wed, 05/08/2024 - 23:47

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Some one should've cast the blame on the "Hey Now" about Bill's absent B~Day wishes. Now seriously, I've got a theory. Every time I try to post some "T.M.I." about my futures speculations on Dave's picks. I get the Hey Now.

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Submitted by uncle_tripel on Thu, 05/09/2024 - 05:20

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...STEP BACK...
...AND THEN YET ANOTHER STEP BACK...
...Doesn't that feel better...

for today's listening enjoyment, backin' up the truck to 1977-05-07 boston garden, this should get me thru my almost 3 hour grass cutting chore for today :]

Peace All!
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Happy belated Birthday Billy!

I always loved Garcia's line on how Billy got in the band. Something to the effect of I couldn't understand a word he was staying so we asked him to be our drummer.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Thu, 05/09/2024 - 07:58

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Good call Proudfoot. I love this rockin' raw period. And a great quote from Jerry "We have Pigpen with us but we forgot to bring an organ..." How I would love to go back in time and follow these guys.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Thu, 05/09/2024 - 11:01

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Hey rockers!!

3/24/71: Weir’s cryptic “Code Seminole, check 3 check 3 check 1, Red Dog over, proceed plan Dakota…”

Actually, a very solid show, especially the Pigpen material, organ or no organ. Also the Truckin'/Other One is crunchy. Always worth a listen and would make a nice official release some day..........

Inner space is so much more interesting, because outer space is so empty.....

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 05/09/2024 - 12:08

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… two primo picks my brother! For 71’ and 11/24/79 is a favorite of mine!

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Thu, 05/09/2024 - 12:49

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So I guess it’s Sheldon Keefe’s fault that Marner doesn’t back-check.

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Submitted by hitmeister on Thu, 05/09/2024 - 14:09

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...that this is a really great release. This show is as good as anything from the tour. Actually, that applies to both shows included in this release along with the bonus disc.

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Submitted by Peaceful Man on Thu, 05/09/2024 - 16:22

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Has been a favorite of mine for many years. My all time favorite Hard To Handle. Crackles with energy.

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Thu, 05/09/2024 - 17:09

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Started listening to the RT series a while back when it was the hot topic. Lots of good music, and I rarely listen a Bob cowboy song, so worked out for me. <Hey Now Test>

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Thu, 05/09/2024 - 18:24

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37 years ago today I was at Laguna Seca Raceway having a great time with the Good old Grateful Dead. Great show! Bill Kreutzmann dedicated He's Gone to the memory of Paul Butterfield.. The Dead came out after the show and filmed the Touch of Grey video.

GD87 is a year I rarely listen to

I will try 5 9

only show I attended in 87 was 7 19 87

GD were so so

Dylan and Grateful Dead together was priceless

....Dave's 38 - Nassau.
Metallica-....And Justice For All
Pearl Jam - VS
King Gizzard And The Lizard Wizard - Fishing For Fishies (vinyl)
BOC - Secret Treaties (new 180g vinyl release)
All bangers imo.
Stop what you are doing. Right now. And find BOC's Flaming Telepaths. Somewhere. Anywhere. And tell me what your thoughts are on that song.
Soooo good.
Edit....Let Me Sing Your Blues Away from DaP 38 just started. Surprise!

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Thu, 05/09/2024 - 21:39

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I did very much enjoy DaP49. The first disc of 50 to my ear was a bit slow and sloppy, if still good (is anything from 1977 NOT at least "good"?). Then the Might As Well starts a bit slow and sloppy, only to find some real energy towards the end. Then Estimated gets quite lovely and suddenly--SUGAREE! Wow. Then everything is just top-notch, with a stellar Wharf Rat. Good stuff, Maynard!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 07:12

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I bet most of us got the email from the G_D today, this week at D_ead Ne_t. I noticed they are not steering readers to this site for the first time in a while on one of these emails, my guess is because of the Hey Meow banter and dissatisfaction with their web policies.

A missed opportunity during a time of declining sales.

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Submitted by Danehead on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 07:21

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Love it.. love it.. love it.. great show(s), great sound - moore may 77.. BW from Copenhagen

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 07:53

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. . . but very cool. "The Clubhouse Sessions - Episode 1" (google it!). Fly-on-the-wall-view of Phil rehearsing with Grahame, Nicki Bluhm, Daniel Donato, John Molo & Holly Bowling . Keep on bombin' Phil!

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 08:33

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Just never stops, can't even finish my post, think I'm done here

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 09:13

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You think someone would wake up and say.. hey, maybe the kind heads on dread n_et actually know what they are talking about and our new IT director and brainchild of the new web architecture Bozola the clown aka Dr. Hey No_w is smoking a bit too much crack.

You're right Burnsy, it's a shame to see some of the really good-natured fun people get fed up and leave. People best at spreading infectious enthusiasm that fuels this place and surely improves sales.

It just never stops.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 09:52

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It would help if we just knew the rules which are way past you can't put in a web address, etc. The randomness is very frustrating. Which word is getting me HNed?
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I agree 1,000 percent that we should have either resolution or some goddamned actual rules about what words can or can't be posted. What symbols will be flagged. Don't just piss off your literal customer base by making us deal with this shit for literally months. We put up with some ridiculous excuses on Warehouse migration issues that affected releases years after the warehouse was moved into, so at some point it would be nice to get a sense of what the hell is going on, and why it cannot be fixed easily and more quickly than months. As an act of protest, I am getting Mars Hotel 50th and zoetrope disc from Jeff Bezos.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 12:04

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This Hey Now stuff. Hey now seems to have started as a fun play on Iko, now it can be torturous.

We got the crickets and cicadas singing like crazy. Wonder what it is like around Illinois where they are getting the double brood. The mighty locust chomp then the birds get a double meal.

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 12:24

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Who the phque is in charge name please

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 12:26

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short answers

cd player make model

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 12:56

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Received on April 27th.

First listen on anniversary dates, Niiiiice!

And love 1989-05-07. The first true dive to go deep in Midi with D/S. Just listen to D/S intro into the other 1. Amazing Sounds and transition. It was a big deal back then because it was the first time Phil played the opening bars of The Other One in a long while, if memory serves...

Billy's 43

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 13:09

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We’re going to finish up and send you on your way with one more “Other One intro” show, but one that’s a little less widely known. It’s actually the last of the 14 Grateful Dead shows in the intimate, forest-like setting of Frost Amphitheater on the Stanford University campus in the 1980s. It just so happened to be Kreutzmann’s 43rd birthday, and this Sunday afternoon show was solid and enjoyable. But makes the cut here, though, because of 12 shining minutes in the second set that showed that the band still knew how to experiment, explore, and blow a few minds in the process.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 13:16

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Hell Noed

Can look up title, ill keep trying

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 13:33

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