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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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    DaP #51 info on your DaP subscription order page

    I won't spoil it. If you want to know, go to your DaP 2024 order confirmation email from last year and click on the order number. That will take you to the CHECK ORDER page. Enter the order number, your email, and zip code and you'll see a receipt with all the details.

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    Amazon Prime Dayz....

    ....ooooh. A Klipsch R-120SW subwoofer for $240?
    Sign me up.

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    A punk band I forgot to list

    China White

    Their album Danger Zone ROCKS

    X is categorized as punk, but I just call 'em rock n roll

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    My punk dayz....

    ....finally getting around to organizing my record collection. Quite the task. I have over 300 records going back to my teenage days and just starting getting back into them as you know.
    Holy flashback Batman. Stumbled across some T.S.O.L., Cramps, Misfits, Corrosion Of Conformity, Agent Orange and Subhumans records I bought decades ago. They still hold up.
    According to discogs, some of the Misfits records I own are worth a pretty penny. Not that I would ever sell them.

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    The Stooges (the ones with Iggy, not Larry and Curly) loomed over punk in the US in a huge way, too. It was almost impossible to go to a punk gig in 1977 and not hear at least one Stooges cover. (My own proto punk band played I'm Loose and No Fun. Very poorly!) The Stooges and the Velvet Underground and the NY Dolls were really the foundation, along with the '60s garage bands.

    And btw, there was a fair amount of give and take in those early days between punk and various brands of psychedelia, including the Dead. Punks were supposed to hate hippies, but in reality we were often on the same drugs and disliked a lot of the same things. Greg Ginn of Black Flag was a big deadhead, for instance. Also, my LSD connection was a hippie neighbor who one day shaved his long hair and 'went punk.' after a gig by X. Lee Renaldo of Sonic Youth was a deadhead, lots of others.

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    70's punk- The Stooges

    Iggy and The Stooges were massively influential in England during the second half of the 70's. In some ways, as Chuck Berry was to the 60's, they were to the 70's. Starting with Nick Kent's article in the NME in 1972 about their legendary show at Kings Cross, in London, to Raw Power the following year and the discovery of their first two albums. Their tracks, No Fun and 1970 were covered The Sex Pistols and The Damned, among others, but nobody came close really.
    When Iggy finally toured England, in 1977, it was one of the most eagerly anticipated rock events I have ever witnessed. Unfortunately - despite having David Bowie on keyboards - his moment had clearly passed. Still good - but not quite what he had been.

    The New York Dolls were important too. appearing on the rock programme "The Old Grey Whistle Test" circa 1973. After a blistering and shambolic "Jet Boy" and "Looking For A Kiss" they were put down by a visibly bemused, and slightly miffed Bob Harris as "mock rock". The 1970's were taking shape!

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    Gummies...

    It just (duh) dawned on me where all the extra glue bits came from on the HCS box CDs

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    Hey Dave!!!

    Listened to Dave's#40 - Deer Creek this past weekend. Even though I had listened to it several times, it really floored me. Nice Pick Indeed! Some great playing and the recording Dan captured is top notch.

    I was much more in the active listener mode instead groove pilot.

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    Great write-up. Especially for someone like me that was on a different musical direction. Always admired the Ramones for what they did and their history. What playing the Roundhouse in London in 1976? And more importantly, from my perspective, they never strayed to far from their charter.

    Did I see the NYDolls in their, cant remember.

    So for me, who has never been in a mosh pit, it was very enlightening!!!

    Now how much will I remember? That has become the question.

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    What's It To Ya, Punk?

    Seventies punk is kind of an obsession for me, partly because it was maybe the only key moment in rock history that I had a mosh pit view of. I was around for a lot of the earliest gigs by LA area bands like X, Black Flag, Social D, and I saw the West Coast club debuts of everybody from Patti to Television, the Damned, Clash etc. Fun times!

    So I would say that when people first started using the term "punk" to describe what was happening, it was because they were referring to the way a bunch of scruffy upstart bands who were rebelling against the corporate rock status quo of the mid-'70s and trying to overthrow the established order, even though they didn't seem to have the wherewithal (ie, money, connections, looks etc) to do it. I think "punk" being used in the way it was used in gangster noir movies: the "punk" is the small time hood with big ambitions who is almost certainly doomed to be crushed by the mob, the police, the power structure.

    It wasn't really a musical style. Which is why that first wave of "punk" included artists as diverse as Patti, Television, Talking Heads, Deco, Pete Ubu, Suicide, and yes, the Ramones. I think what happened, as Daverock said, is that the Ramones offered a blueprint of what "punk rock" sounded like, and it was one that was easily copied, even by people who'd never picked up a guitar until yesterday. If you liked the Ramones, you could get together a couple friends, learn three chords, and start a band. And dozens and dozens (if not hundreds) did. Suddenly there was lots of bands that sounded like that in every town, and that was taken to be what "punk" was.

    About Television specifically: I personally think they took too long to record, and as a result we missed out on hearing the earliest version of the band, when Richard Hell was still a member and when they sounded a lot more raw and basic in a way we associate with punk. If you're curious, look up the Ork Loft recordings, a video made in 1974, and you'll see what I mean. That's what they sounded like when they'd been together for about a year. They did some demos with Eno after Hell left the band in December ''74, which are a lot more polished. And then they didn't record their Elektra album till September 1976. By which time they were one the tightest bands you'll ever hear, and not much like what we think of as "punk."

    Anyway. I would recommend hearing EVERYTHING Television ever did. Marquee Moon is a stone classic, the follow up, Adventure, much under-rated, and the live boots and Eno demos are all really good too. Even the reunion stuff is worth hearing.

    Sorry for the long post. I warned you I was kind of obsessed with this stuff.

    And, hey, Dave, where's that announcement?

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Tue, 05/14/2024 - 06:31

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Thx Icecrmcnkd, that WAS an LP, not a CD. I nabbed a sealed copy.

Maybe I need to get a turntable now.... I can see the domino effect cascading and becoming a vinyl slut.

Oh well, HF

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Tue, 05/14/2024 - 14:59

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In case you haven't heard, Real Gone is going to issue a vinyl version of Dicks 12. Which is a killer diller, some of jammiest jams ever. It's a run of only 3000, goes on sale Thursday. You've been warned.

Also, I've been trying (trying and trying) to post something to say how grateful I am to everyone who helped sort out my problem with the defective disc. Thanks Doc, Mary, and everybody else!

And also to thank everyone who sent kind words and good karma after I posted about my mom's dementia the other day. There's some very nice humans around here.

Hope this doesn't get Hey Now'd. To the best of my recollection, I am not now nor have I ever been a robot.

....this slut already spent his allotted record $ this month. Thanks Crow, I guess.
Then again, my birthday is next week.
So I have an excuse teacher.
Just listened to 12 a couple of weeks ago. Stays in semi-regular rotation, as it should be in all of our homes.
BTW, this is what I bought at the record store Sunday after seeing my mom. King Gizzard And The Lizard Wizard - Flying Microtonal Banana. Phish - Fuego. My Morning Jacket - Z.
I got a little high last night and was totally absorbed in that Gizzard record. Good stuff.
Careful HF. It's a helluva drug my man.
Edit. Good excuse to get 12 Joey. It's for sale on Real Gone. CD that is if you're not the slutty type.
Edit again because hey nows aren't effecting me yet. My father passed from Alzheimers Crow. It's a rough road that one. Peace.

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Submitted by Danehead on Tue, 05/14/2024 - 20:52

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Vguy.. sorry to hear about your dad.. think you said he was from Denmark.. my dad died from Alzheimers 8 years ago - maybe it is in the genes here in the North E.U. ? BW to you and familie.. Danehead..

....my step-dad got alzheimers. Married mom when I was five. My real dad was Danish and died in a car accident when I was one. However, good memory danehead. Impressive.
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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 05/14/2024 - 22:26

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I had was working with old folks with Alzheimers and other dementia types

Nasty thing, Alzheimers

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Submitted by topchinacat on Wed, 05/15/2024 - 06:12

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... and at all three of the Greek 83 shows ... some of the best times ever. As I sit here today, I STILL recall the Friday Let It Grow ... I was only a year into the Dead and this particular live rendition was just so over the top ... it kept building and building. IMO, it holds up after all these years .... tcc

Thank you Vguy, yeah cd for me or sometimes digital, no vinyl; I need that like a hole in the head. Man, these reissues are expensive, either way I'm looking for one. There are a few Dicks I never got, mostly the compilation types...

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Wed, 05/15/2024 - 09:12

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JOEYMC check your pm's....................

My personal hobbies are reading, listening to music, and silence.

Rock on,

Doc
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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Wed, 05/15/2024 - 13:12

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Problem is, Vguy, I'm already a CD slut, a concert slut, and a just plain slut.

That's the upside....

Cheers, HF in Slutland (should be a board game...)

P.S. Anyone here heading to Joe Russo's Almost Dead at the Rocks, June 1?

P.P.S. My dad went out two years ago with dementia. Anyone suffering from it or being a caregiver has my complete support and best wishes. Truly.

In Seattle there is the South Lake Union Street Car

But many refer to it as the S L U T south lake union trolley

Quote unquote ride the S L U T

Nyuk nyuk

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Wed, 05/15/2024 - 19:22

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Really hoping to get this one, trying to be ready precisely at zero hour. Missed DiP 1 by that much. I think 11 minutes, and they were gone like Keyser Soze. But as much as I love that Here Comes Sunshine, I love the China Cat from 6/26/74 more. And my favorite Eyes. Phil's solo is as good as either of Jerry's solos in it that night, and as an encore, it was super tight. Then Phil suddenly at the mic with a hearty, "Good night folks, see ya on Friday!" And that Friday is just a monster. Well the Weather Report Suite - Jams - US Blues, is the real monster. Dark Star hints, Mind Left Body Jam morphs into a proto-Music Never Stopped Jam, and so many peaks and valleys until US Blues meanders out of the ashes. Too bad the most recent DaP vinyl was #2, #34 6/23/74 would have made a killer companion. When that one comes out on vinyl, I will be all over it. Oh, and the etched last side? Wow!

Now, fingers crossed I am able to go into a room and no wifi issues strike, and I am able to get this motha tomorrow at 1pm, EST. And good wishes to all those joining me in the online queue.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 01:41

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Alvar-there speaks my mind. Slut is a shoddy word, no doubt about that, either.

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Submitted by JoeyMC on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 05:40

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is on Amazon currently for 134. I dont know if thats good...

Edit: its actually less on ebay.

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Yesterday was Wavy Gravy's 88th birthday, Happy Birthday anniversary to the pied piper of phun.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 07:15

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Gave up on a couple posts due to Hey Now, hope it's fixed soon, THANKS MaryE for letting us know. Looking forward to Jims report on JRAD, have tickets to their show August 1, Jerry's birthday in Burlington. Alzheimers, ALS, my heart goes out to those whose families affected, have lost friends and family to both. To say it sucks does not begin to express the devastating effects which many of us know too well.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 08:11

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134 is a little less than what I ended up paying up paying from a record store online. That's not bad. It's worse right when they're released, then things seem to calm down, until they've been sold out a few years, then they jump above 200. Or so it seems. I saw the Talking Heads RSD release has stabilized and I could probably get it now more reasonably than on RSD almost a month ago. So, I'll wait a little more on that one.

Did anybody pick up Nightfall of Diamonds?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 08:24

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....I got it. Sounds excellent. I will also be in cue for DiP 12 at 10 AM my time.
Dead & Co start their Sphere residency tonight.

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 09:44

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Let's try this. A certain band about to start a major residency at a particular location has added a VIP perk.
"We will be screening an iconic live ____show...runs for 3 hours." Inside scoop, anyone?

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 10:03

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Ordered.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 10:20

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.....secured. I feel slutty now. Need a shower.
I'm going June 8th. $250. 300 section.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 10:20

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Refreshed at 2 minutes to 1and able to add to the cart and check out in a minute. Funny enough, my notification emails came in 2 minutes later. Good luck to everyone else, and I look forward to RGM's usual quick turnaround. I love how they drop the announcement when they're ready to sell and ship. That helps because they will have done quality checks when they have product in hand. They delayed release on one of the DiPs a couple years ago due to a bad pressing, if I recall correctly. And I love they get Mr. Norman to mix and master from the original tapes, unlike the Brookvale releases, which were cut from the digital files. Can't wait to hear that China Cat in full vinyl glory.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 10:27

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Yup, I've ordered it too. Costs an arm and a leg with shipping costs, but it's one of my favourite Dicks Picks - so it's worth it. No one outside this forum I know would think so, but hey ho.

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 10:35

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I may be $170 poorer, and the records might not sound much, if any, better than the CDs I already own, but by god I am going to thoroughly enjoy listening to that China Rider on vinyl. Along with the rest of it.

Last five!

Sly Stone: Stand
TTB: Best of the Beacon
Sonny Rollins: A Night at the Vanguard*
Ty Segall: Three Bells
Aaron Copland: Symphony #3

*All you vinyl sluts out there might like to know that Blue Note's "Tone Poet" reissue of Rollins' Vanguard material offers a substantial improvement in audio quality over previous issues. Well worth investing in, even if you already own this music. Hey, it's only money, right?

Round and round and round and round, don't take much to get me on the ground

I say yeah yeah yeah

And I thank you for a real good time.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 10:54

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Getting around to the 5-4 material and bonus. Love the jazz dead intro to Comes a Time. Clearly a highlight in this solid release.
As HF stated elsewhere, a nice box would include the Red Rocks/McNichols 1979 shows. Early Brent kills it!
Cheers

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 11:07

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....Go To Nassau.
That Jack Straw is the most metal sounding I've ever heard Jerry. He shreds it I say!

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Submitted by Anatexis22 on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 12:51

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Ordered this morning at and checked my email shortly after noon and the shipping notice has already been sent out.

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 15:45

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The movie playing in Vegas during the residency will be Dead and Company: Barton Hall 5/8/23. I might just take that in. I've already paid for it.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 16:33

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Still available.
Guess not as hot a commodity as DP1.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 16:35

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....but rather be safe than sorry.
Jam -> US Blues will be here Monday.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 17:05

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Was surprised and going to post that as well. I literally got shut out of DiP 1 minutes after the onsale, so I'm baffled. Looking at discogs page on Dick's vinyls, the only RGM one I'll be missing is 24 3/23/74 Cow Palace Wall of Sound test. I have none of the Brookvales, but only sad about missing 8 5/2/70 and 4 2/13-14/70. They've chosen some really good ones to put out.

11/10/67 mmmmm, ahhhhhhh in my best Homer Simpson drool.

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