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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • ronmarley1
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    Serendipity?

    Went out twice today. First time in the AM, Hawaii ‘70 was on the Sirius channel. After noon, Alaska ‘80 was on.
    It’s an odd pairing for a box, but I’ll probable be in.

  • Gary Farseer
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    Boxin Phish

    I am up for 9/20/1970 also. Still hopin box will be more of October 1974 Winterland.

    Read an article of the first person banned from the Sphere; band from the Sphere, wow. It is a Phish fan who was the first person to rip a bong and immediately post it on line. It was on 4/20, go figure. What was ban for, pulling a tube or posting online. I am sure at least 100,000 have smoked in the Sphere, probably way more than that.

  • billy the kiddd
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    I'm all in, I've been banging the drum for this one for years.

  • Gary Farseer
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    alvarhanso

    I was recruited hard by rjr after graduating from wake forest.

    Interesting thing about Winston-Salem, is the speed of the town. I grew up in a town where everyone drives 5-10 mph above speed limit. This has grown immensely worse as we've had and continue to have massive explosion of foreigners (people from other states) move here because of the job creating machine/region where I live. These people from the northeast and west work hard to weave and race through traffic. In Winston-Salem with all that old deep tobacco money, everyone drove 5 mph below the speed limit. Made me even calm down and leave an extra 5-10 early minutes to get where I was going. Love Winston-Salem.

    Now, I get in the right lane, hit cruise control at the designated speed limit and wait to be a witness of a major accident. I almost killed a motorcyclist a few years back. Checked mirrors and blind spot and then proceeded to change lanes, as I started to change lanes a motorcyclist flew by me doing over an 100 mph. All of a sudden hear a loud whining sound and he was by me before I could even adjust. Startled the crap out of me.

    Moral of this stupid story is politicians need to stop growth agenda until infrastructure investments made.

    Sometimes the life expectancy of older folks is longer than younger folks.

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    Sad but true Alvar

    Scary, horrible shit!
    And if that doesn’t scare ya, start looking into why the government subsidies the sugar industry so much…

  • JimInMD
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    I'd buy this one in a New York minute.

    Enjoyed your post Alvarhanso, there's a lot there I did not know.

    I guess it is box time. Let the drum roll begin. Bananas.

    Lastly, remembering D Day on it's 80th. What a crazy world we live in.

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    Music is well said to be the speech of angels.....

    Yo, rockers!!!

    Danehead-

    Based solely on what I've heard---and remember, my hearing is a little damaged from 50 years of high volume rock and roll----the 6/12 show will require some tweaking to get it release worthy. The 13th---if the entire recording is as i heard---will probably not require a lot of tweaking..............

    Speaking of tweaking the music----the big elephant in the room (and there's so many lol) is 9/20/70. The acoustic set---maybe the best, most interesting acoustic set they ever played (hey, where else are you going to hear an acoustic Truckin' and maybe the best New Speedway ever)---would require minimal tweaking.

    However, on every version I've heard (and I've heard tons) there's some issues with the electric set. I'm not a techie so I can't put that into better terms. The most recent version I heard----from the GEMS network---is pretty good, but there's still......that issue. Even so, I bet most folks would accept it as an official release.

    As long as the phantasmagorical Dark Star suite from the 19th was the bonus disc............

    Naturally, all just one man's opinion, and remember to check out Corvallis.......

    Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness.......

    Rock on!

    Doc
    If the king loves music, there is little wrong in the land......

  • uncle_tripel
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    it comes in a box...get your hands out of it.

    my long-distance runner comes home for spring-break and announces to my wife and I that there is NOTHING to eat in this house, ONLY ingredients. sorry bud, and that's the way it will stay.

    thnx alvarhanso for the reminder

    stay well everyone!

  • billy the kiddd
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    6/5/69 Fillmore West

    This would be a great release, as a one off or part of a bigger box set.

  • alvarhanso
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    Re: Sudden Burst of Flavor

    As a child of the 80s, I trust Jim's statement of blandness in tastes until the mid-80s, partly because I read an astounding article about the role of the tobacco companies in the changes in diet and unhealthiness over the last 40 years or so. Why would tobacco companies have anything to do with that? Well, RJR at that time owned Nabisco and Philip Morris bought Kraft Foods. More terrifying is that the tobacco companies do not view themselves as tobacco companies, rather as flavor companies. They spent millions and millions on making the best tasting cigarettes and flavor additives to food. Flavor became the big thing, and these "flavor companies" created all the stuff that is killing us in new and fascinating ways. They created the Snackwells as a "healthy sweet snack", and they became an unfortunate phenomenon, selling out everywhere as people ate them by the boxload, believing mass consumption of something "healthy" would be extra healthy. Instead diabetes rates skyrocketed. Flavor additives literally make us crave foods, like smokers craving a cigarette, not just from the nicotine.

    I grew up in Winston-Salem, NC, heart of tobacco country, with RJR headquartered there for well over a century, and descended from tobacco farmers. In 2nd grade we took a field trip to the RJR/Nabisco headquarters. In the lobby, they asked for a show of hands of all those whose parents smoked. A large portion of us raised our hands, and to each of us was given an experimental black pack of Winstons, which was the cancer stick of choice for both my parents. I didn't think much of it at the time, partly because at the end of the tour, we got to choose our favorite Nabisco cookie or cracker. I was all about the Fig Newtons. I wonder if I would have liked Fig Newtons 10 years earlier?

    Oh, and this reminds me of the anti-MSG campaigns of the late-80s-90s, and how an irony of the Popeye's Chicken Sandwich craze from a few years ago was that their chicken sandwich, which is, in fact, the best tasting chicken sandwich I've ever had, is loaded with MSG. No wonder they call it Make So Good. But also, terrifying. Even more terrifying is how actually eating healthier is even more expensive at the grocery store. Sorry, for the weird rabbit hole dive...

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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I wonder if it might be something outside the Keith Godchaux years - and my preference would very much be something from before he joined. A 1976 box would be okayish, as I didn't get the last one. I wouldn't be as keen on a 1977or 78 box, though - in case you were wondering.

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Because of the release of "The Music Played the Band", found a group Bertha: Grateful Drag.

Yes, a group of Drag Queens covering the Dead. They're not bad,,, you can see on you tube.

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You Might As Well go tonight and tomorrow.

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Time for the announcement.

I’m still holding out for “The Last Ones” Box, complete audio and video, along with a remastered GD Movie.

I’ll take the rest of June 76 but can wait until 2026 for that.

2025, the 60th anniversary of the beginning, should be ‘65-‘68.

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....yup. They are pretty good. From Tennessee. Honey come quick with the iodine.
I have a feeling this years box is going to be one of the best. Pretty high bar they set for themselves. And we're here for it.

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…The 2024 Boxset I believe is going be one of best to date. I can’t tell you why, it’s just a gut feeling i have deep down to my Grateful Dead Bones! I would Love a 1979 Boxset!!! Oh yeah, 79’ Stay Alive! It’s a Primo year in their performance sound & playing as a band as this is when Brent became a key part in their new sound & song writing! There is literally a huge plethora of 1979 concerts that are just amazing & waiting to be released from the vault! Secondly, I would love anything from 1967-72. Thirdly, 1980-81. Both acoustic and electric performances much like the two Live albums released by the Grateful Dead, ‘Reckoning’ being the acoustic performances & the album, ‘Dead Set’ being the electronic performances at the time. Both theses albums are being Re-released this July 5th 2024. And lastly a ‘ Oakland’ Boxset! No matter what it will be , I’ll still be truly grateful for the Grateful Dead to continue making their live music available to fans! I’m really looking forward to the release announcement from Dead.net!
Have a grateful holiday weekend everyone, peace be with you all & rock on!

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Robert Hunter wrote Brokedown Palace, Ripple, and To Lay Me Down.

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They have been playing portions of it on Sirius over the past few weeks. The show is a ripper.

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5/25 & 5/26,... 1977. Dave's 1st & 41st Picks. It's an anniversary of somethin' somewhere! Anyways next pick, 51 is a Pig 1970 with the extras from DaV#48.
Last pick this year will be a Vince era, a first. Next year in 2026 expect 1982, 1976, 1973 and........? Either a primal Pig show or possibly another Vince era with a safe bet being later era Brent, 1988?

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I’m rewatching the Ken Burns Country Music documentary and I see that today, May 26th is the 91st anniversary of Jimmie Rodgers death. I must dig out some CDs and play them.

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to 5-26-72. the best of the best, and all vets out there, to all the ones we have lost, rest in peace. In 1971, 1 month till induction, I could have been one of them, but I was a lucky one. Peace, Love, Dead.

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to 5-26-72. the best of the best, and all vets out there, to all the ones we have lost, rest in peace. In 1971, 1 month till induction, I could have been one of them, but I was a lucky one. Peace, Love, Dead.

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sorry, fingers and eyes not quite as coordinated as they used to be.

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In my top 5 for sure. Along with
5/2/70
3/1/69
2/28/69
...and the 5th changes all the time. June 1974 is a favourite month and as 6/28/74 should be rocking up at my front doorsoon I think I'll stand behind that one. 6/16/74 is a top contender - but they all are from this month.

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Couldn't agree more.

Love the Eyes China Doll from 6/18 too. That transition is something.

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My top 5 is much like yours 5/2/70 3/1/69, 2/14/68, 2/27& 28/69, 5/15/70. Great minds think alike, top 6

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Yes, those shows mentioned by Jim and Billy are also favourites of mine. If they ever get round to releasing Road Trips on vinyl, 2/14/68, 5/15/70 and 6/18/74 would all be top choices.

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Yeah, I've been reading the post threads and been wondering the same thing. What era, how many shows? is it a straight run consecutively played, or a multi year escapade? Either way, can't wait!

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So while we're all waiting for the box announcement, I see that Experience Vinyl is offering LPs of four official Dead releases for pre-order (Reckoning, Dead Set, Go To Heaven & Shakedown Street). No mention of being remastered and they're all years from their respective 50th anniversary treatments. What's up with this? Am I missing something?

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What I have been able to listen to of this release sounds great. I have been able to listen to discs 2 and 3 and the bonus disc, but I haven't been able to listen to disc 1 as it skips. Not just a few times but maybe a hundred times, so badly that it is unlistenable on all but the first two tracks. Visually the disc looks fine but it most certainly isn't. This is the first Dave's Pick disc that I have had a problem with but I have read that plenty of other people have had problems with other Dave's Picks.

I would have thought that Dead.net/Rhino would have learnt from last year's Here Comes Sunshine 1973 box set debacle, but it seems not. Loads of people had problems with discs that either skipped or would not initialise. The problem turned out to be CD-player specific - some players would play the discs without problems, others not. Most of the discs in my box skipped, as did the replacements. It was obvious that there was a manufacturing problem with those discs. I was eventually given a download version after several months of jumping through hoops.

I cannot understand why the team put so much effort into some aspects of their releases and seem to do other things as cheaply as possible. Remember the Mexican-made Dave's Picks? Now it seems their current disc manufacturer is unable to produce fault-free discs but they still keep producing them.

I am seriously wondering how long I am prepared to pay good money for faulty products when it appears that there is no will to rectify, or even admit to problems. I don't think I can even be bothered to try and get a replacement disc for Dave's 50 as it would probably also be defective.

Sigh.

I have the same problem Simonrob. Sent a note into the support team, but have not heard back yet. Will let you know if/when I get a response.

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AGH. Passing this up the line. So sorry for the trouble.
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A true Deadhead and great human being.
Met him once at a CSN show at MSG in the 90s. very kind .

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Aw shucks and cancer sucks.
Legendary player and legendary Deadhead.
Always a smile.
Cheers to Bill!

Edit: Saw him twice at Red Rocks as he was hard to miss standing off stage to the side. Once was on crutches as he had a broken leg I think.

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A true legend. Dude was playing pickup basketball with NBA players as a teenager, and before you say, "Sure, he was 7 feet tall!", he was "only" 6'2" or so when he was purposely injured by an older guy who was tired of being beaten by a teen. He spent 6 months in bed while his broken leg healed, and by the time he left the bed, he was 6'9" and 135 pounds. He took his earlier passion for passing and became one of the best big men of all time a generation (or more) before big guys played like that. Around the same time, he became the biggest Grateful Dead fan in the land. His enthusiasm for life, basketball, and the Dead were boundless. His book Back From the Dead is an amazing tale, told with his inimtable enthusiasm, and if you ever heard him speak much, you can hear the whole thing in your head as a book on tape. I loved him as an announcer, even if it drove other people mad. He was a flavor of licorice I thoroughly enjoyed, and I will miss the big fella even though I never had the pleasure of meeting him. Fare thee well, Bill!

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God bless bill walton!! Standing on the moon with his hero! RIP

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Gonna miss the big guy, loved his commentary, he knew his dead trivia. Heard it was prostate cancer, the silent killer. I recommend everyone gettin up there in age get a prostate exam, simple and a bit uncomfortable, but if cancer can be caught and cured if found early. I know, I know, kind of embarrassing exam but a little discomfort is better than the alternative. Dios te guarde to our tall brother Bill.

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I saw him one time walking down the street after a December Dead show at the Oakland Auditorium , I didn't know who he was; I said to my friends, 'man that guy is tall'.

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As Bobby said at the Portland Raceway (the day after Lowell George died in 1979) "He was good while he lasted!"

And the same for Bill.

It was hard to miss him sitting dead center at the shows, often perched on a high stool, arms held up high, with the widest smile you have ever seen, ecstatically drinking in the Dead....

May the four winds blow you safely home.

"Teachers open the door, you must enter by yourself."

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Sad to hear about Big Red. I grew up loving UCLA basketball and the Dead, so you can imagine how I felt about Bill.

Quick story: once, in another lifetime, I was a journalist working on an article that had to do with the NBA playoffs. I was at a game in Sacramento and Walton was there working as a commentator, and I thought I'd stop him in the hallway on the way out and see if I could get a comment. I thought I'd ask one question and get a quick answer. But after I said hello and told him what I was working on, he said "let's do this right, let's have a real conversation." He gave me his home number and said "call anytime."

I had to call several times before I caught him at home, but when I finally did, we talked for over an hour. I got the comments I needed for the story during the first few minutes, but we just kept talking about sports, music, life. At the time he was overjoyed that he was no longer experiencing the debilitating back pain that had made him bed ridden for a long period. He felt like he'd been given his life back.

Anyway, who does that? Just bares his soul to some random journalist for no good reason, other than a good talk?

A good man. Who has surely gone where the good souls go.

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So sorry to hear this. Love the comments and good thoughts, especially Crow's story. I never met the man but I always enjoyed watching him play ball, listening to him talk and his writing. Glad we got the liner notes from him for UCLA 71. Just in time.

Flying the freak flag at mast. Today is a sad day, tomorrow we can celebrate his life and impact. Talk about good karma.

aw man

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As a guy who loves basketball and the Grateful Dead, sad to hear about Bill Walton. I watched him play in the 70s and 80s and loved listening to him call a game. He really dropped a lot of Dead references into telecasts in recent years. I met him at a Dead & Co show at Alpine Valley (2018 maybe?). Super nice guy who took a minute to talk to me about basketball and how he loved Wisconsin's team (I told him I loved his call of a Wisconsin v. Arizona game the previous season). RIP Big Red

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May the four winds . . .

Saw him seems like every post GD show at Red Rocks in the VIP section., right in front of the SB.
Usually, that ment all six eleven of him, arms flaying above his head, leaning precariously over the flimsy section rope, like a moth to flame, like he needed to be as close to the music as he possibly could.
The year he was on crutches we thought for sure he was going down lol, but nope, true warrior still Dancin and dreamin, and ALWAYS with that ecstatic shit eating grin!

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My comment referred to the spam post by tooltime. Glad they removed it! And quickly.

Thanks dead net or MaryE or whoever removed it.

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That news really sucks.
Never met him, but did spot him in the crowd at several shows.
Peace

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Yeah, I removed him so all good. Moving right along...

My first view of this page has Tim The Tool Man as the top post, but when I hit ‘recent posts’ he disappears.

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...to Angel Hernandez
It's sad MLB had to bribe him to retire.

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42 years ago I was at the Moscone Center for a great night with the Good old Grateful Dead. A benefit for Vietnam Veterans, Country Joe, Boz Scaggs, John Cippolina, also played.

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Where is the box.. ?

I tried to IM you,,, but got hey nowed!!!

I found my copy of Bertha was also corrupt. I re-ripped with a different ripper and it seem to rip ok.

I put it up on my gdrive, but couldn't put the address up for it.

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