This is another busy week in the Grateful Dead’s performing history, with music spanning another relatively short span, but containing some exceptional jams.
From the second Waterbury, CT show, on 9/24/72, we have the heart of the second set, which features Dark Star>China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider. Unfortunately, the Rider gets chopped at the very end due to a cut in the master reel. But fortunately, the Dark Star contains just about everything you want from a 1972 Dark Star: introspection, deep space, melodic turns and chaos.
Four years later, on their second big tour after the hiatus, in September-October, 1976, we have a great second set sequence from 9/24/76 at William and Mary College, featuring Drums>Slipknot!>Franklin’s Tower>The Music Never Stopped>Stella Blue>Around and Around, U.S. Blues. There’s a tape reel cut in Stella Blue, but to balance that flaw out is this absolutely incredible double speed Slipknot! that leaves the listener breathless.
In 1981, the band did a short three night tour before embarking on the fall tour of Europe. We have a little taste of each of these three American shows, with a couple of tracks from the first show on 9/25/81 at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, PA: from the first set, a rocking Passenger, and the second set opening combination of Might As Well>Samson and Delilah. From the next night, on 9/26/81, at The Aud in Buffalo (or, more properly, the Buffalo Memorial Auditorium, if you’re not into the whole brevity thing), we are pleased to play the post-Drums sequence of Jam>Not Fade Away>Morning Dew>Playing In The Band>One More Saturday Night. And finally, from the third show on the mini-tour, on 9/27/81 at the Capital Center in Landover, MD, we have the show opening trio of Jack Straw, Alabama Getaway>Promised Land.
That’s about it for this week, but check back next week when we’ll venture into October with more great music. Feel free to write with questions, comments or requests. Your input is always appreciated.
David Lemieux
vault [at] dead.net
From the second Waterbury, CT show, on 9/24/72, we have the heart of the second set, which features Dark Star>China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider. Unfortunately, the Rider gets chopped at the very end due to a cut in the master reel. But fortunately, the Dark Star contains just about everything you want from a 1972 Dark Star: introspection, deep space, melodic turns and chaos.
Four years later, on their second big tour after the hiatus, in September-October, 1976, we have a great second set sequence from 9/24/76 at William and Mary College, featuring Drums>Slipknot!>Franklin’s Tower>The Music Never Stopped>Stella Blue>Around and Around, U.S. Blues. There’s a tape reel cut in Stella Blue, but to balance that flaw out is this absolutely incredible double speed Slipknot! that leaves the listener breathless.
In 1981, the band did a short three night tour before embarking on the fall tour of Europe. We have a little taste of each of these three American shows, with a couple of tracks from the first show on 9/25/81 at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, PA: from the first set, a rocking Passenger, and the second set opening combination of Might As Well>Samson and Delilah. From the next night, on 9/26/81, at The Aud in Buffalo (or, more properly, the Buffalo Memorial Auditorium, if you’re not into the whole brevity thing), we are pleased to play the post-Drums sequence of Jam>Not Fade Away>Morning Dew>Playing In The Band>One More Saturday Night. And finally, from the third show on the mini-tour, on 9/27/81 at the Capital Center in Landover, MD, we have the show opening trio of Jack Straw, Alabama Getaway>Promised Land.
That’s about it for this week, but check back next week when we’ll venture into October with more great music. Feel free to write with questions, comments or requests. Your input is always appreciated.
David Lemieux
vault [at] dead.net
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Wrong date but right music, though I still can't get it.
September 1972 Dark Star
My two favorite Dark Star's 9/24/72 and 9/16/72.
DAVID, you monster
you fantastic monster! What a tour-de-fource you have lined up this week. If it weren't ridiculously annoying I would fill this comment with nothing but exclamation points. Brilliant selections. Bless you.
It's stil LAME!!!!
Still no response from the money hungry on the decision to pull the downloads. Get a stream ripper to convert for your IPOD.
How $$$$$ is destroying what was a great entity.........two words that aren't happy birthday to Rhino and those that support them.
Great choices.
"Might As Well" certainly has lifted my mood this morning.
I wish I was at that Waterbury show
i was only 6 :(
www.gdradio.net
Streaming Grateful Dead and more
"Feel free to write with
"Feel free to write with questions, comments or requests. Your input is always appreciated."Don't you all just wish this dink Lemeiux would stop putting that at the end of his comments each week. I think he does it to piss people off on purpose. Ass....
get a grip, folks...
I, for one, do not care that others see it as an inconvenience that some people have a need to capitalize on something we all probably got for free through trading and still want more.
If you have nothing nice to say then keep your fingers off the keyboard.
Wonderful selections. Now, work on making it more accessible to those who can't figure out how to make their browsers work properly.
:-)
Just left there to float
Still no comment or explanation from David Lemieux.
Don't need downloads, but how about some honesty?
Remember when the Grateful Dead had an ethic of respecting their audience?
Rip question
Hi,
Love that W&M slice - thanks!
Has anyone had any luck with 'ripping' the streams? Can this do it? http://sourceforge.net/projects/streamripper/
Sorry I am not very techno.
Thanks,
Poke
Complainers suck.Get positive or shutup!
The only lame thing this week are the chronic complainers. Thanks for the 80's picks. Dave.
Rhino Accomplishments
I see many negative comments about Rhino in this section and I just want to point out that they are doing a fantastic job with the gd vault. They have remastered the entire library in HDCD and put out two incredible box sets with loads of additional material. They are also releasing vault concerts such as Cow Palace and 3FTV, not to mention Rockin' the Rhein, etc, etc at a fairly rapid rate. This adds up to hundreds of CD's and thousands of hours of music. And it all sounds fantastic. To say they don't care about the Grateful Dead is ludicrous.
I am also bummed that all you can do is stream this music, but is it really necessary to bash these guys every week. Aside from this issue David and Rhino are doing a fantastic job. I, for one, would like to see a seperate forum created for people who want to debate this issue, and focus comments in this forum to the music provided each week. I love to read what people say about whether or not they were able to make a show, what their favorite versions of songs are, etc, but I do not like having to work my way through all the debating about streaming or not streaming.
Set this site free from the harping and let's focus on the music. :-)(
Grrrrrrrrrreat!
Thanks for the selection from the "Aud" in '81. What a night!
Dick's Picks Volume 5
If you like the Alabama Getaway>Promised Land sequence check out DP 5. It is an early Brent show from 79 and the boys are rockin'. Jerry just smokes. Alabama Getaway will rattle your teeth. One of the best second sets you will ever hear with a killer Estimated Prophet. Check it out.
Thanks David. Great selection as usual. Speaking of Estimated Prophet, wouldn't mind hearing a few more. Jerry's guitar just cry's in this song.
Jerry Goes Easy on Us
Tropical Storm Jerry poses no threat to land:
12:02 p.m. Tropical Storm Jerry picked up speed far out in the Atlantic Ocean early Monday, but forecasters said the storm's days are numbered and it poses no immediate threat to land.
Capital Centre
Was on my way back to college after seeing the Rolling Stones in Philly the day before. This was a Sunday night if I'm not mistaken. I also think the GD did this small tour as a warm-up before heading to Europe. What memories. David, do not let the "Where's my free gimme gimme" crowd bother you. This section is still a blessing. I do enjoy listening to my mp3 player as I ride my bike. Just figure something out sooner rather than later to quiet the negative talkers. Thanks again to you David, and to all who are helping. Al
My 2 cents
As far as the big debate on whether the Taper section choices should go back to being downloadable. Well obviously I think they should. I was putting together some nice little playlists on thumb drives that I can plug into a USB port on my car stereo.But I also don't think people should be bashing DL (not too hard). Is he the only one responsible. I doubt it.
They obviously screwed up by having them out there as mp3's to begin with. Why it took them so long to realize we were downloading is a mystery. Or was there just some kind of corporate shake up?
There are ways around it but they are time consuming. I can record the streams to wav using my CoolEdit software. But it's real time and you take a chance with other garbage screwing up the recording. (I'll have to check out the stream ripper though)
The big question is why they haven't released any NEW stuff since Rhino got in the picture?
I already had most of the tunes they were putting up anyway. But I know if they would put up some new shows to download, we'd buy them. And what the hell ever happened to the Veneta movie?
I for one, would like to see a seperate forum created for people
...who cannot spell SEPARATE correctly. Yeesh.
www.dictionary.com Give it a try.
RHINOgate continues...
Brilliant MOVe...
No response... NO Excuse..!
"I see many negative comments about Rhino in this section...
...and I just want to point out that they are doing a fantastic job with the gd vault."
Thanks a lot. I just puked all over my keyboard.
Decay relay
Relating to commentary, as this reporter has done, it seems to many that way-to-go strategies have never ever bought homliness. Homelessness, perhaps, but who here thinketh any minute now or later will be the then? I quote the words of The Late, Great Mr. Zappa: "There is not, not ought there be, nothing so exalted on the face of God's grey Earth, as that Prince of Foods; The Muffin..."
rip this
what's so funny about peace love and understanding.?!
ok i've done my share of shows... crossing the border for 75 shows was no small feat... now i just dumped all my downloaded music from this site a few weeks back, i didn't think that the policy would change about downloads off this 'tapers section'... i am pissed at my self for making a rash move and wiping what i had away(needed space, and had no time to back up)... no soundboards on the internet archieve, now this, on top of it there seems to be no official explanation as to why. this is not the Dead that i have loved for so many years. i turn forty this week and would have loved to have tripped around with some b-day tunes.. maybe Umphrey's McGee gets it. Podcast anyone!!
Commerce above music... sad day
new topics
Since folks here just do not seem able to stay on topic, I would like to suggest the following topics be listed separately on this site.1. Whiners
2. Whiners about whiners
3. Whiners whining about whiners whining about whiners
4. People who use correct spelling
5. People that can’t spell
6. People that don’t care about spelling
7. Those that use correct grammar
8. Those that use incorrect grammar
9. Grammar?
10. Discussion of hairballs
11. You mean we can’t download?
12. What is a cosmicbadger?
13. Real Deadheads
14. Pseudo Deadheads
15. Fake Deadheads
16. Uptight Deadheads
17. Serious Deadheads
18. What is a Deadhead?
19. Why the Grateful Dead owe me free music
20. Why are Rhinos mute?
21. Spinners
22. Spinning makes me dizzy and gives me a hairball
23. Clothing styles of the band members
24. Replacing our nice moderators with mean moderators
25. Should Bob be singing Jerry songs?
26. Phil and Bob’s guitar players sound too much like Jerry
27. Phil and Bob’s guitar players don’t sound like Jerry
28. Phil’s band is too jazzy
29. Bob’s band is too jazzy
30. Whatever happened to that beautiful girl or guy I saw at the show?
31. Why don’t Hal R, cosmicbadger, GRTUD, Timmy and the rest of them just shut up?
32. What AARP can do for a Deadhead
33. Ouch, that one hurt.
34. Why do all these Deadheads keep quoting Elvis Costello?
35. Should we really donate our abused organs?
36. This is Taper’s section, can’t you read?
Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
Walt Whitman-Song of Myself
HAHAHA Hal!
Very thoughtful list. Another Hal Golden Nugget. But please take out number 31. If you guys would "shut up" would be ALOT less enjoyable in this forum!!!!!!!!!!
AND you forgot the dilemma about whether we must say "feck" or can use the other f-word in our posts, and if we should all become fans of the lovely Lilly Allen or not!
Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live.
Samuel Clemens
tapers section
The Grateful Dead (or whomever is responsible) should, I believe, apologize and reinstate the MP3s on tapers section until a whole year has been covered. Then, after 52 weeks of tapers section, a change in format would probably be more readily accepted. I think they're treating their fans pretty crappy.
I kind of thought the whole point of Tapers Section was to appease those of us who became disgruntled after the archive.org fiasco, but now they've got a goodly number of fans upset again.
The only justification for the move is business (money), but is it good business to so profoundly alienate and basically insult the most devoted fans (customers)?
Hope you get them all to play
I am having trouble with the first clip, dunno, may bee next time it will work. Hope my Hillbillie friend makes it here to check out that US Blues.
Again, streams are good online, but then I still have not acquired an IPOD.
I like discs, they are like frisbee cards with sounds and sometimes sights.
Streams, Well Bonus City!
Now to booggie woogie wag tag sha shag...
playing now
sometimes it just seems
I have to try again later
and then
shazam.
Tigerlilly
"A lot" is two words by the way....Hal got me started on grammar......
Ooops!
Right you are estimatedprofits. I should be ashamed!!! Was that technically a grammatical error or a spelling error? Both perhaps?
Thanks "a lot" for bringing my attention to this problem, along with that of everyone else;-) Will write this combination "a lot" more times, and never do it again.
a lot
a lot
a lot
a lot
a lot
a lot
Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live.
Samuel Clemens
I hate to say it
but after weeks of good streaming I am having trouble and now totally sympathize with those who say "I can't get it to work!" I can get one or two selections to stream and then...nothing. Sigh.
Hopefully, the last word on the subject.
From a future David Letterman show:
The top ten worst marketing strategies of recent years:
10. 3 Republican presidential candidates state they don't believe in evolution.
9. WMD
8. John Kerry tries to explain voting against war funding after voting for it.
7. "You're doing a helluva job, Brownie."
6. Any ad by a US airline (except Southwest).
5. "This is the CBS evening news, and I'm Katie Couric."
4. Iranian President denies holocaust while affirming peaceful nuclear intentions at Columbia Univerisity.
3. "Made in China."
2. "Mission Accomplished."
1. "Please note that beginning today all Taper’s Section audio streams are served via a new media player in both Windows Media Audio and QuickTime Audio formats."
TigerLilly
WMD = weapons of mass destruction (i.e. Iraq)
You must not live in the US, 'cause Katie Couric took over the anchor spot for the news and ratings have plummeted.
Not sure about the "Brownie" one myself.
Good list, though. But it's missing the GD/video game thing. Add another, Scott-O!
DUH!
WMD= I should have gotten that.
Can't imagine Katie Couric as an anchor. Is perhaps too perky for hard news??? (HAHA) When I left the states she was on a morning news show. NBC right?
We'll see if anyone fills us in on the brownie one
Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live.
Samuel Clemens
Your doing a helluva job, Brownie
What GW said to Michael Brown, then director of FEMA, on national television a few days after Katrina hit New Orleans. Brownie resigned shortly after due to pressure from his botched handling of the situation. GW was clueless. What a dumbass. I wonder how many more times this idiot will insert his foot in his own mouth before we are rid of him.
Thanks stellablue
For solving that small mystery.
"GW was clueless" HOW TRUE!!!!!!!!! But is the usual state of affairs for that guy.
Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live.
Samuel Clemens
stella blue(s)
tj crowley
counting the days king george the 'W' has 482 days left
the bumper sticker reads 1 20 08
1 20 08
Not sure what happens on that date. The next president will be sworn-in on or about 01-20-09.
Whoever it is will probably be no better, or worse, than the last 20 or so.
IMHO Thomas Jefferson was the last president who was qualified for the job.
Peace,
Richard
AARP-Heads
Now that is a marketing plan that might have some legs.
Hal - you da' man!
Richard
Nice segue, enjoyingtheride!
Ladies and gentlemen, we now return to our regularly schedule Rhino bashing program.
Or, conversely,...
...Rhino is running the country.
((((shudder))))
Either way Deadheads are getting shafted.
time out for Burma
Hi from Thailand
if anyone wants to know how they can show their support for the monks and many others in Burma right now in their brave resistance to a truly evil regime please go to the forum on this site called
Positive vibes for folks in need
sorry for the interruption
we can work it out
another great week of GOGD thanks to David and whoever. I understand the downloading dillema and am still getting over it myself. But people this is still a gift. Those of you who cannot stream, be patient. This Franklins sounds great! Peace everybody..........
ugh
enough with the 'mean people suck' statements. that's about as ubiquitous as those 'my child is a (fill in the school) honor student' bumper stickers.
anyone know where i can get a 'my cat would eat your honor student' bumper sticker? that would make for an interesting hairball.
by the way, this week's here comes sunshine' is excellent. thanks dave.
and, by the way again, is there a problem with the tape on the first 30 seconds of 'dark star ...'? there seems to be a gap very close to the beginning which isn't mentioned in david's notes. i've streamed it on a couple of computers, and it always seems to be there.