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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • Noah's Great Rainbow
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    Imagine a world where GDP posts the entire year's agenda on New Years. No more keeping devoted fans in the dark. No unrealistic expectations, no dashed hopes, just great music and happy folks.

    Imagine a world where unresolved customer service issues arent just relegated to one very kind soul. And help to support her many fine efforts to help us folks.

    Well, yes, I may have a very active imagination. Yes, I am clearly an optimist too. (Thus my screenname) And I'd kinda like to share my wishlist of future shows right now. But I won't. I still remain thankful for what we have, regardless.

    But that isnt why I decided to return and post here. The world is a scary place right now, and music can surely heal the soul in such times. For me, the poem on my wall, "Desiderata" perfectly describes it for me. Most of us are likely familiar with it. And for those who continue to struggle with what ever daily life throws at you, please know that you are not alone.

    "With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
    it is still a beautiful world.
    Be cheerful.
    Strive to be happy."

    Church is over, you may now go in peace. And to quote Pierre Robert, our local radio guy's favorite phrase "God Bless the Grateful Dead"

  • Forensicdoceleven
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    Music is a reservoir... of sounds......

    KIDDD: Yes, both 1969 Santa Rosa shows are very good and would make a nice release (hint hint to TPTB). I do believe that the kind folks at GEMS put pretty good copies into general circulation a while back...............

    JIM: Yes, fragments of both of the June 1970 Hawaii shows were streamed on deadnet previously. As I recall, both were pretty good quality, given today's sonic processing technology both could be nicely cleaned up. One had a lengthy TIFTOO. Can't recall the other one, which was a notch better quality.

    Undecided about the rumored 1970/1980 box. Would much prefer that the Hawaii shows be released separately, and if they want to issue a 1980 box that would be OK. But I'd prefer to keep the 2 eras separate. Of course, I'm not in charge of choices.........

    Four straight paperwork days, think I'm forgetting how to cut up dead folks..........

    Doc
    When music fails to agree to the ear, to soothe the ear and the heart and the senses, then it has missed the point.......

  • jonathan918@GD
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    I was hoping they would stick with the "venue" concept a little while longer. I like it!!

    Whatever it is, i'm on board

    rock on, gang

  • billy the kiddd
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    Killer of a show, put this together with 6/28/69 and you have a great release. Or, as part of a larger 1969 box set.

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    The Half Baked box sure seems like a Bad Idea, in terms of marketing.

    You got your people who love 1970. A 1970 box would probably sell great. And you got your people, probably a somewhat smaller group, that love 1980. A 1980 would probably do OK. But there's probably not that many people in the middle of that Venn diagram loving both those very different years. Seems like a tough sell to try to convince people to part with roughly $175 for a set where they're not super enthusiastic about one half or the other.

    Me, I'm simply running out of space. I either have to stop buying every box that comes out or get a bigger house. (Which, sadly, is not a realistic option.) I will probably pass on this one and hope that they issue one of the '70 shows separately.

  • Danehead
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    Box..

    The Alaska shows might be multi-tracks (or mixed-downs..), as they sound very good..

  • JimInMD
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    I'd be surprised if they offer another cassette mastered box and if they did I would not expect to see 81 through 83 included. The In and Out of the Garden Box (81 through 83 - cassette mastered) is still occupying shelf space at the warehouse.

    I'm up for whatever.

    The Hawaii 1970 concept is interesting though as it would have to be from the June shows. The Dave's Picks (19) pretty much cleaned out the January 1970 run. There is much mystery regarding the June shows as complete tapes do not circulate. I think Lemieux has played a song or three (at least I think he did). They'd likely be a Banana Box special, which really does hint to possibilities unknown.

    There are also copies of Betty Boards out there on the Archive were not part of the known ABCD cache. ABCD seems to have dried up or at least slowed down.

    It would be nice if the vault got a big ass FedEx box from a company named EFGH, LLC

    Or was it just a dream I dreamed.

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    October 74 yes yes yes
    Summer 85 yes yes yes

    From the ether comes a promo for ZappaMOI July 23 1968 at the Whisky.

    I listened/watched part of it. Pretty drecky.

    These days to me a little Zappa goes a long way

  • Obeah
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    Just want to say that I don't have a dog in this box set race. I'd be thrilled to add some more lovingly plangent-processed 1970 to my collection. But like so many, I also think it would be mighty fine to honor the 50th anniversary of an amazing year in GD history with a 1974 box set. And of course, with today being the anniversary of an amazing '85 show, I'd dearly love to see that one + 6/25, 6/28, 6/30, and 7/1/85 released (that 30 Trips release of 6/24 would round the week out nicely!)

    Goes to show you don't ever know...

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    Complete recordings of Winterland October 1974 run to celebrate the 50th anniversary!

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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11 23 79
6 22 83

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Is for those shows from the Ark in 1969 to finally get released. Don't care if it's in a box set, or a DaP, or what, but them shows need to be OUT. Iconic performances, good sound, Come on, Dave! What's the holdup, maaaaan?

I ain't a-scared of no AI. Those guys can't even tell the difference between a crosswalk and a motorbike.

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Illogical for it to be anything else.

Wanna move product? Look how fast 73' sold.

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I would love BTK's 69 box!!!

On a side note, still looking at glass bongs, chillums, and recently where to buy some b l o n d e h a s h.

Wow what I paid $60/ounce for decades ago, now is $369. Guess that makes sense due to mandatory inflation built into the system. But online they have some incredible sales. Wonder how safe to buy? Just not sure...

Thanks Jim, it is good to be posting more. I am like a lot of others, only post on a fraction of what I see. So many around here are deep officianados in music, dead and other, smoke, smoke systems, etc. What a great place to learn and be lead from darkness to light!

Already sold out 3 more shows at Red Rocks. That takes them to around (havent checked) 69 sold out shows in a row. Just amazing. Cant remember actual capacity of RR, but think around 10,000 maniacs. They have held the record for a long time, and just keeping adding sold out shows. Can they ever be caught?

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HDTV resolution is really, for simplicity sake, just a difference in the number of lines making up the picture, or the total number of pixels making up the picture - DVD has 480 lines of resolution, Blu-Ray has 1080 lines, and “4K” has 2160 lines. More lines should make a smoother picture, but at some point your eyes become the limiting factor as at a certain distance you can’t distinguish between 1080 lines and 2160 lines The closer you are to the screen, the more noticeable the difference will be, the bigger the screen the more noticeable the difference will be. Think of pictures in newspapers in newsprint - at a small scale and from a reasonable distance the picture looks smooth, like a photo print, and you can’t distinguish the individual dots that actually make up the picture. But if you get close to the picture, or blow it up to a larger size with the same number of dots making up the picture, the picture starts to look more like a collection of dots and less like a photo. The more dots you have to make up the picture, the larger you can expand the picture, and the closer you can get without your eyes noticing the individual dots, like a pointillist painting.

The real advantage of the HDTV and now the HDR feature is the incredible color array. Your HDTV can image an immensely greater color range than your old color TV, even if it was a Sony Trinitron, and you can see fantastic color from any distance.

If a new player doesn’t work with your DVD’s you might want to see if there is a firmware update, since as noted, everything has a chip. I got a new CD player in the last couple years and it initially had trouble playing some of the usual suspects (DaP28, cough) and after a simple firmware update the same player has played everything flawlessly. Knock on wood.

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WsP hit 67 last year. So #70 just topped. That is a lot of shows.

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No box in June, I guess..

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As an aside, 30+7 years ago now would have entering parking lot at Ventura's County Fair grounds. Really nice Sunday afternoon show.

This was 2+ hours ago, try again

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Charlie with the firmware reminder.
Yes, often overlooked.
Why?
Because we don’t read the manual.

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At the end of today’s Bulletin:

“Not to mention 6/20/80 in Anchorage”

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So icecrmcnkd mentioned "an Oakland '91 box" (I believe as a nice-to-have, and not a rumored release) and I'm assuming this was a reference to the October run. But in '91 there's also the three-night midweek stand at Oakland in February, as well as the final NYE run. And despite the NYE run being the last such event, I rarely play any of those shows, whereas I do include 2/21/91 in my rotation as well as 2/20 sometimes (which has Olatunji, and a massively long set II. 2/19 ofc is famous for the NSB breakout after 20 years...)

Just wondering if anyone else has thoughts on this. It seems like an eleven-night box from 1991 is too big, and even seven nights is probably too many given that the MSG box set has struggled to sell. As well, if they're really going to do a '91 box, Summer is probably the sweet spot for really consistent, high-intensity shows. Worth pointing out, too, that Bruce Hornsby didn't come out for either February or December. But the thought of wrapping up a year of Oakland in one package seemed interesting... for example, I could also see "best 2 of out of 3 or 4 nights" working, with Halloween as the centerpiece.

Seems unlikely in any case, but I saw a lot of 1991, so it intrigues me strangely...

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That’s what I want.
Don’t know if it’s doable because of guests.

It’s not just MSG, STL Box is still available too.
That’s why a ‘91 Box is needed, helps span the years ‘71, ‘81, ‘91.

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Heard that a while ago on discs from my man Craig

They didn't seem that great

I loaned them to a former coworker and away they went after I abruptly left that gig.

A Full Norman of the run I am certain would bring out the shows' charms

:)))

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54 years ago today the Grateful Dead released Working man's Dead. My favorite Dead album, in fact I think its the greatest record of all time. An absolute masterpiece.

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i know its about the the music, but just got new JGB 2/13/76 and so glad they have an actual art direction that fits the music.

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Set lists

Same after same

Observation not a gripe

"Yeah, the boy can play"

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39 years ago this weekend( along with a lot of other great people who post here on this forum) I was up in Berkeley at the Greek Theatre having an absolute blast with the Good old Grateful Dead. Killer shows, lets get that complete Greek Box Set out there. Stopped at Everett & Jones Bbq on the way home.. Big fun!

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....has been paying attention to the D&C Sphere posters.
All incredibly incredible.
So incredible. They deserve a rare double post lol.

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First off, DaP 50. 5/3 solid, 5/4 bonus material looks great on paper but not my favorite '77 show. Jer sounds a little tired and more interested in playing than singing but rallies for Comes a Time.

Regarding the new JGB, anyone else notice the absurd amount of screams (same one or two guys) recorded on Keystone 2/13/76? Absolutely ruins TLEO and badly dings a couple other tracks. I'm all for hearing it like it was and all but I would also be ok with someone cleaning that crap out of the recordings. It's one thing when fans are into it, another when the screamers seem to be purposely and aggressively inserting themselves into the scene in quiet moments.

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Didn't know they had this one, but George Strait last night had 110,905 paying ticketholders at his show at Texas A&M's football stadium, breaking a record for single concert attendance held by the Grateful Dead for Englishtown 9/3/77, which had 107, 019. Don't see anybody ever coming close to breaking the Watkins Glen record.

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Gotcha icecrmcnkd - and good point, I forgot about Gary Duncan being there on Halloween. And Santana on the 27th. Were there others...? Anyway, that would complicate licensing.

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Right on BTK!!! This iconic west coast venue deserves special recognition (IMO) .... A Greek Box is way over due! Selfishly, 82-87 please!!! With special recognition for the Fri 13th Dark Star in 84..... Unquestionably some of the best times of my life .....tcc

I've seen people yell because they're kind of overcome with emotion at what they are hearing or seeing, and I smile.
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This is how I interpret the sounds on New Jerry.

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49 years ago today, I was up in the balcony at Winterland having a fantastic night with the Good old Grateful Dead. It was a memorial concert for Bob Fried the poster artist. The advertisement listed Keith & Donna Band, Kingfish, and Jerry Garcia and friends. Kingfish blew the roof off the joint they were fantastic. Then out came the Dead to be introduced by Bill Graham, the place was electric. They opened with Crazy Fingers , still my favorite version. What an absolute knockckout of a night. Fun times!

After what Jonathan said I decided to check my DVD’s in my new 4K player.
So far DVD’s 1-3 played fine, no issues.
The video quality is far better than on the DVD player I originally had 10+ years ago. So, thumbs up to upconverting.

Decided to spin the 6-17-91 Blu-ray tonight since it’s the anniversary.
Looks good and sounds good.

More video please Dave.

Oh man.. it almost hurts to read some of the gems you got to see.

Glad you were there, glad you remember so much. If I could go back in time I would live vicariously through your eyes and know I have lived a life fulfilled. Holy smokes, some truly special shows. Thanks for sharing.

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I gave it an archive listen this evening

Yummy

Thank you for the reference BTK

You were there? The envy is all mine

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Disc 1 skipped from track 3 onwards. The further it went, the worse it got and at least the last half was totally unlistenable.

Today a replacement disc arrived and it plays through without a single skip. It's great to finally hear it as it's a fine first set.

Big thanks to MaryE and Mac for sorting it out and getting the replacement disc to me.

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Only posting the following comment at this thread as someone earlier here noted a wish to officially put out a certain show with a dash of AI magic to remove 1 particular screamer in the audience. Well, unfortunately that would've also been welcome with the new JGB vol 21 release.

There's 1 guy who makes the same sound over & over again that sounds like a Neanderthal being caught off guard by some animal ramming him in the nuts. It's more off putting in that this gig is super chill. So he bellows time & again at the most unusual quiet times of a beautiful harmony with Donna Jean or Jer's sweet, slow picking.

Putting aside our Neanderthal in the crowd, some may see this slowed down tempo as plodding. I tend to hear it as adding some more sweetness if you know what I mean.

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blech and blech again

Radio version of 6 19 76

between songs some yutz

"AYAYAYAYAYAYAAA!!!"

repeat frequently

And then theres 6 28 85

And 1 21 71

And

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That's great to hear @Simonrob - last year at about this time, those two esteemed personages + Mr. Dave Lemieux himself were rescuing me from the saga of my twice-stolen Dave's 46. Mac finally put a copy into a mailer and shipped it to me himself. Got it just after the 4th of July.

and @Proudfoot I was in the same spot, had to listen to some '91 after all this discussion. I just got done with 8/16/91. But now I need to get out that Giants Stadium box and go back two months farther...

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