From the Mars Hotel 50: Ship of Fools

Episode Duration: 02:22:04

The Grateful Deadcast welcomes back Donna Jean Godchaux-MacKay for the season finale, digs into “Ship of Fools,” and visits the set for the Grateful Dead Movie, aka the Dead’s five “retirement” shows at Winterland in 1974, with heads who attended.

Guests: Donna Jean Godchaux-MacKay, Ron Rakow, Ned Lagin, David Grisman, Elvis Costello, Steve Brown, Richie Pechner, Jerry Pompili, Jim Sullivan, John Perry, Gary Lambert, Geoff Gould, Joan Brown, Michael Parrish, Corry Arnold, Strider Brown, Jay Kerley, Rita Fiedler, Rene Tinner, Lee Ranaldo, Gregory Barette, Ron Long, David Lemieux, Brian Anderson, Shaugn O’Donnell, Brian Kehew

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by Jesse Jarnow

 

The Deadcast’s season finale unpacks the closing song of From the Mars Hotel, “Ship of Fools,” the just-exactly-perfect springboard to discuss the Grateful Dead in late 1974. That October, the band began an 18-month break from touring, filming what became The Grateful Dead Movie during their five action-packed “retirement” shows at Winterland in San Francisco. It would be a multi-year process that we’ll hopefully revisit, focusing this episode on the shows themselves.

 

Sometime earlier that summer, none other than Bob Dylan hired David Grisman to give him a series of mandolin lessons, visiting Grisman at home in Stinson Beach. One evening, Grisman took Dylan up the hill to jam with Jerry Garcia, which we discussed when I interviewed Grisman last year for Aquarium Drunkard.

 

When the Dead decommissioned the Wall of Sound, pieces went to a number of smaller bands, including Osiris, led by Kevin McKernan, Pigpen’s little brother. You can hear one of their demos here, thanks to our buddy Sully. Journalist Brian Anderson is tracking the whereabouts of other pieces of the Wall in his forthcoming Loud and Clear, a book about the Wall of Sound to be published next year by St. Martin’s Press.

 

Thanks as always to David Gans for use of audio sourcing from his book Conversations With the Dead, available along with other crucial Dead books from his site.

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    All the Madmen
    4 months 4 weeks ago
    Bosch the Realist?

    Hieronymous might have painted in 1490, but not 1890! Great season. LOVED the Bobby Peterson Phil Lesh episodes.

  • jimmieji
    5 months 2 weeks ago
    The Movie

    “… trying to get my space together … just came from a phone call.” Our dear departed friend Michael Starr. I met him for the first time, up front and center, with his pal Groovy on 10/20/1974.
    Bonnie’s daughter Tamea is the little girl giving Garcia that bunch of roses … too many other appearances of friends in The Movie to recall.

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    ToddO
    5 months 1 week ago
    Right On

    Thanks for sharing that dude's name. Definitely one of the more memorable characters from the movie. Him and US Blues sing-a-long bro.

The Grateful Deadcast welcomes back Donna Jean Godchaux-MacKay for the season finale, digs into “Ship of Fools,” and visits the set for the Grateful Dead Movie, aka the Dead’s five “retirement” shows at Winterland in 1974, with heads who attended.

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Donna Jean Godchaux-MacKay, Ron Rakow, Ned Lagin, David Grisman, Elvis Costello, Steve Brown, Richie Pechner, Jerry Pompili, Jim Sullivan, John Perry, Gary Lambert, Geoff Gould, Joan Brown, Michael Parrish, Corry Arnold, Strider Brown, Jay Kerley, Rita Fiedler, Rene Tinner, Lee Ranaldo, Gregory Barette, Ron Long, David Lemieux, Brian Anderson, Shaugn O’Donnell, Brian Kehew
Supplemental Materials

by Jesse Jarnow

 

The Deadcast’s season finale unpacks the closing song of From the Mars Hotel, “Ship of Fools,” the just-exactly-perfect springboard to discuss the Grateful Dead in late 1974. That October, the band began an 18-month break from touring, filming what became The Grateful Dead Movie during their five action-packed “retirement” shows at Winterland in San Francisco. It would be a multi-year process that we’ll hopefully revisit, focusing this episode on the shows themselves.

 

Sometime earlier that summer, none other than Bob Dylan hired David Grisman to give him a series of mandolin lessons, visiting Grisman at home in Stinson Beach. One evening, Grisman took Dylan up the hill to jam with Jerry Garcia, which we discussed when I interviewed Grisman last year for Aquarium Drunkard.

 

When the Dead decommissioned the Wall of Sound, pieces went to a number of smaller bands, including Osiris, led by Kevin McKernan, Pigpen’s little brother. You can hear one of their demos here, thanks to our buddy Sully. Journalist Brian Anderson is tracking the whereabouts of other pieces of the Wall in his forthcoming Loud and Clear, a book about the Wall of Sound to be published next year by St. Martin’s Press.

 

Thanks as always to David Gans for use of audio sourcing from his book Conversations With the Dead, available along with other crucial Dead books from his site.

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“… trying to get my space together … just came from a phone call.” Our dear departed friend Michael Starr. I met him for the first time, up front and center, with his pal Groovy on 10/20/1974.
Bonnie’s daughter Tamea is the little girl giving Garcia that bunch of roses … too many other appearances of friends in The Movie to recall.

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Thanks for sharing that dude's name. Definitely one of the more memorable characters from the movie. Him and US Blues sing-a-long bro.

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Hieronymous might have painted in 1490, but not 1890! Great season. LOVED the Bobby Peterson Phil Lesh episodes.

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