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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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May 20, 2020 - 10:34pm

#7141

The Good Ole G…

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Make Believe Ballroom

Good stuff!

JIMINMD - Make Believe Ballroom pretty “famous” early bootleg record of 8/13/75 from the Amazing Kornyfone Record Label.

I think they fetch a pretty penny from collectors these days.

Cool info here - http://www.gratefulseconds.com/2018/02/?m=1

Fun Discussions tonight all.

Good info and Good tunes tomorrow.

Until then be well
May 20, 2020 - 10:07pm

#7142

DeadVikes

Joined:
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8/13/75

Yes, this is the ticket for tomorrow.

Oroborous, appreciate the information.

Sounds like I am not in the league of your customers, which is okay. I am more of the pub links player. Anyway, at a minimum it sounds like I should invest in a new router and modem with the extra Wifi connections around the house.

Do you wonder why I like the old school wired system playing CDs.

Do you know how much time I have spent on the phone with Sonos customer service??
May 20, 2020 - 9:05pm

#7143

JimInMD

Joined:
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Ha.. Re: Net Wiring

Aren't we all geeks in our own way? I couldn't help but read that whole post, much of it lost on me.

But it lead me to a conclusion. Correct.. Oro, you are not an IT professional. ..but perhaps a bot. not a Russian Bot or a Facebook Bot.. our own SF peace bot.

I mean that in the most respectful way, hope I did not offend. In a way, Oroborous.. you are all we have in our freak fight against the tyrannists and enemies. We need our own bot.

Sorry for the diversion. Again, meant with the utmost respect and hopefully a perceived tread of good nature and humor.

Cousins, thanks for that info.. So that's the source of that language on my tape. Does anyone know the source? The Great American Music Hall is not called the Make Believe Ballroom, right? Was this just a clever name for a bootleg LP to get it past the TM and Copyright folks? There must be another half of this story.

I guess it doesn't matter if we don't solve this riddle, but how on earth did that LP get it's name?

Nite all.
May 20, 2020 - 7:48pm

#7144

Oroborous

Joined:
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Re: Deadvikes/net wiring

To those not interested, please skip and except my apologies

First, disclaimer: I am not a IT, computer, or network professional, in fact, when it comes to computers I’m way behind the curve. That being said, I am a custom AV professional which usually requires installing commercial grade networks in the home. I’ve done hundreds over the years. So I have a lot of experience using many AV products both wireless and hard wired. Why, because when you have home automation, Lighting, HVAC, Pool/spas, Security, AV, gaming, WiFi and more on one home network that’s a lot of bandwidth, no matter how many MBS/gigs your paying for. Your network is the foundation that all your net gear lives and depends on. You wouldn’t build your house on a cardboard foundation so you shouldn’t build your network on a insufficient one either!
SONOS: you are correct that one of the main selling points for Sonos or any of the “wireless” audio products is reasonable stability over WiFi (of course always depending on service. Just like your water main the pipe is only so big)...the biggest of all reasons Sonos is ahead of the pack is their user interface. So with decent service you can certainly enjoy over WiFi, but like you mentioned if everyone is on line at the same time it’s like having every water facet and toilet going at once...,the pipe is only so big...streaming of course is the biggest drain of all.
I won’t get all in on the phsycics, and I’d probably do a lousy job, but generally, a properly hardwired connection is going to be better: faster, less latency, more BW, and certainly more stable/reliable. I’ve seen situations where the IT guy had me disconnect a HW feed and use a meshed WAP, but that’s mostly because the WiFi gear was new, robust, and of course somewhat oversold lol. The wiring and switches were ancient crap....I may have been trying to use only four conductors which limits you to only 10/100. But that’s only happened a few times in 13 years!
By comparison our nets are at least 1-5 gig capable, but our bigger new jobs have been 10 gig to try and future proof (as much as that’s possible anymore). Often these start getting into fiber, But I digress...
Also, even if it’s not that time of day when the whole neighborhood is sucking on basically the same pipe, I’m sure you’ve still experienced huge speed drops, latency, and even severe buffering etc when the whole family is using all those wireless devices. So the more things you can take off WiFi and hardwire, the more those HW devices will benefit from the “bigger pipe” that the wire usually provides, but at the same time, the devices that are still over WiFi will also work better because removing streaming devices off essentially provides “more pipe” for the remaining WiFi devices.
It’s all about the pipe baby: bigger, faster, stronger...
The last job I was on before the VID was over 10K Square foot house. It has Comcast gig plus service, using an upgraded surfboard modem, 4 port commercial Router, 4- 48 port Poe switches, Ruckus Zone Director to air traffic control bandwidth where need via the 16 commercial grade Ruckus WAPs (all hardwired on cat five or better). All critical infrastructure gear is on Bluebolts for remote ip monitoring and rebooting.
Besides the 16 Crestron hardwired touchscreens, there are probably a dozen iPads for control of all house subsystems. The 20+ cameras are now all nest over wifi which is a huge bandwidth drain, but that’s what the owner wanted. Throw in all the personal devices of the owners and up to 15 guests, and six in house servants and five large equipment racks of gear (even amplifiers now are ip controlled) and that’s a shit ton of bandwidth. A normal home network would not function!
Obviously I assume most folks don’t have those needs, but the infrastructure methodology is the same.

So for a “typical” house (there is no such thing but for simplicity)
- Best pipe (service) you can get. Preferably on fiber or Coax if possible.
- Buy your own upgraded modem. For a couple hundred bucks that you’ll make up by not renting one.
- Research and get best Router you can
- Use strategic placement of WAPs over full cat 5 or better. Six is the norm, but we sometimes pull cat 7, 8, and/or fiber.
This depends on how many floors, walls, building materials etc, square footage. Like much of this too much is better than not enough. Think brick shithouse from BITD...
Usually the cat for your phones all homerun back to your headend or main distribution point. Depending on where that is and if there’s adequate power nearby, you can place all your gear there, or if possible, place a robust net switch there. Obviously for switch size you’ll need to figure out how many devices you’ll want to H.W. depending on how May wires you have. It’s usualky much easier to have at least enough Poe ports to power WAPs (make sure you’ll have enough wattage). You can find all kinds of wall trim to terminate similar to how your phone or net are trimmed on your walls, or if long enough wire just terminate RJ 45 etc. You’ll need to terminate all the ends at the net switch. A decent cable tester is a real help to ensure proper terminations. Inevitably you’ll need to test from end to end using all wires and splices/connections.
So you have your service feed to your modem, a net cabl from modem to router, router to your switch or switches, and your WAPs hardwired to your switch (s). If done properly using good gear (find gear with specks way above what you think you need, it can be money well spent, remember, your trying to build a brick shithouse, not a cheap tent! ), you can make your network more robust, stable and therefore enjoyable! It’s like buying a car with a big engine, you don’t akways need it but when you do and you put the hammer down, you’ll be glad you have that headroom.
Obviously many folks dont need so much, but even a additional switch with hardwired devices out of your provider modem can help when supply is getting stretched thin.
No matter how big or small or what your needs are, always hardwire when possible! That’s what I’ve found works best, cause it’s all about the pipe!
Hope this is understandable and helps. Sorry if I didn’t explain well.
May 20, 2020 - 7:42pm

#7145

Cousins Of The…

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8/13/75

Jim, my first exposure to it was the Make Believe Ballroom LP on the TAKRL label
May 20, 2020 - 7:22pm

#7146

Gollum

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8/13/75

in the queue...
May 20, 2020 - 7:21pm

#7147

JimInMD

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Hampton 87 & 8/13/75

Made that run too.. I think there are several of us here that must have shared a fatty or a bowl at some point over the last 35 years.

So are we doing One From the Vault next? My first tape of this was labeled "Make Believe Ballroom." Not sure where that came from or how common it was.

So I decided if we are doing 3/24/90 I would re-order it and do it right.. which is where I still am. I did roast a good amount of kind Ethiopian Coffee and unfortunately spent a ton of time on the phone with USPS. Back to finally getting my Knick exactly perfect. Whoever mentioned the Mind Left Body.. my two favorites are 10/18/73 and 3/24/90. On the latter, Jerry and Brent are in the middle of a serious mind meld. It's amazing and Brent really does fill in the gaps, almost exactly perfectly. Always one of my favorite late era shows. Amazing.
May 20, 2020 - 6:55pm

#7148

bolo24

Joined:
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8/13/75. "Good evening, we welcome you...

...On behalf of the group"

Pretty much have this whole show memorized, as it's always in heavy rotation. What the heck, in the interest of supporting my Deadhead brethren, of all genders, races, political leanings and creeds, I'll cue it up tomorrow and play it LOUD on the big boy system!!

Unless my wife is home, then it's headphones.
May 20, 2020 - 6:43pm

#7149

DeadVikes

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3/24/90

Great choice, I was able to listen to I believe everything except Desolation Row. Still have my Dozin copy from 1996 and the first Spring 1990 opening tunes. Top shelf!

I will throw out another 90s release for tomorrow, 8/13/75, One From the Vault.
I have two copies of this, the original 1991 release and the remastered release from 2007. The upgrade is awesome.
May 20, 2020 - 6:33pm

#7150

Vguy72

Joined:
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Did someone say hockey?....

....my radar pinged.

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

RIGHT ON ICRMCNKD!

you know they are now ... "knee deep in the hoopla"

73

Not sure if there is a better year, so many great shows and yes, sound quality on releases have varied over the years. Would be interesting to hear 10/19 with Plagent.
I think the HCS Box sounds better than the PNW box.

Which reminds me, I should listen the Des Moines show tomorrow.

Would love to send some rain your way Jim. We have had more rain here in the last three months than we had in the previous three years.

July should bring us the 2024 Box reveal and for sure Dave's Picks #51. What will it be?

85, 77 and 69? 91?

While we wait

I happened upon a thingie on your toob

GD
England 1970
The Lost Film

Very worth checking out

Re: Proudfoot

I saw that video hanging around there.. like an hour and a half. I've been crazy busy doing useless crap for other people lately.. so I only got about a third of the way through it last night. It must have been uploaded recently.

Needing a pick me up, how about 5/7/89, something someone we all know and love mentioned on the Dave's 50 thread. I don't think I have listened to it.

Sorry about your rain DVikes. If you pee in the river I live on it would probably double the flow. (not that I am recommending peeing in rivers, power to the fishies)

If they made 10/19/73 sound better, I'd buy two just to thank them for their trouble.

So many shows, so little time

Gotta revisit 10/19/73

Like Alpine 89, I have never fully understood what is so aMAzing about it.

A road trip with 10/19/73 should do the trick....

Re 5/7/89

There's a lot of subtlety to it

And some unsubtle things, too :)))

For whatever reason, I really enjoyed it yesterday.

If you have...

Fallout from the Phil Zone

Listen to it sometime this month

One more thing

Infrared Roses

Listening to that again for the first time in a while

Fallout from the Phil Zone and Infrared Roses

Love them both, was especially fond of Fallout from the Phil Zone.

73/5/7/89

Just finishing up the Des Moines show from the HCS. I love this box!

Jim, I will get 5/7/89 rolling this afternoon. I believe this was a Rex benefit show.

Hope you all can enjoy some good Dead music this week.

One of my picks of the day

4/1/84

Happy Fourth

Happy Fourth of July weekend out there. Hope you all had a good day and enjoy the weekend. July is my favorite month of the year and the Dead played some great shows in July.

Right

A belated May the Fourth Winds Blow You Safely Home.

Today's pick

So, in my world, today found me smack dab in 9/28/76 aka Dick's Picks #20, pt.2

Started with the Let It Grow>GDTRFB then rolled on with set 2

This is some of the most-heady, well played Grateful Dead i've ever had the pleasure to hear!!

Get some!

4/1/84

The first set was fun, second set tomorrow.

So Dickus Pickus 20. I love the Supplication on that too. Will make a nice start to the weekend.

4/1/84

My first "ah-ha" moment and first "bootleg" I'd ever hear of the GD. Provided by my older brother, this tape, second set only, made me sit back and think "man, this is something else!"

Fine reason to go back and take a spin!! Thanks, Jim

9/28/76...

aka Dick's Picks #20, pt.2, oh yeah, this show and the night before
9/27/76 Rochester
get lots of airplay around these parts, especially while cutting grass with headphones

Uncle Tripel

I've never heard 9/27/76. I'm gonna check it out!

Dicks #20

Always worth another listen.

I guess no #51 announcement this week. Must be coming next week.

Box? Who knows.

9/27/76

Several of my older head friends were there, and said it was probably the best show they were at, (including Rochester 77!)
Don’t peak, it has a cool set list and is a great show if you haven’t checked it out!

Edit: even Doc likes this show ; )

9/28/76 DiP 20 Part Dos

Sweet, fun (partial) listen yesterday - Cold Rain and Snow through Samson. Phil way dialed up in the mix - that Let it Grow opening - whew. The Samson entrance may be the most laid back, in that '76 way, that I've ever heard. May rewind and def will finish that show. 9/27/76 you say?! Onward back in time to the show that was the day before!!

9 27 76

Excellent show, for sure

Currently I am on disc 3 of JGB at Kean College

I also have JGB 8 29 87 in the "eventually" cue

Peak, yes

Peek, no

We're not earthly beings any more... we're cosmic beings.....

Thunder is good, thunder is impressive; but it is lightning that does the work......

On September 27, 1976, the Dead brought the thunder AND the lightning. I should know, I was there. It's a long story, but here's the Reader's Digest version:

It's a long way from Amherst, Massachusetts to Rochester, New York. We completely missed out on the June Music Hall shows, were disappointed by Colt Park, and were hot to see the Dead. Why Rochester? I'm afraid that reasoning is lost to the ravages of time and memory, but off we went. We took our excellent doses too early, and by the time we hit town we were on one of the outer rings of Saturn.

Even though Providence 74 was still somewhat fresh in our faulty memories, Rochester impressed us, especially the very big, bobbing & weaving, waves crashing second set.

How we made it there and back in one piece, only our guradian angel can tell...........

The man who has perceived God looks upon all types of men as dream motion-picture images, made of the relativities of the light of cosmic consciousness and the shadows of delusion......

Rock on,

Doc
Long before the awakening of thought on earth, manifestations of cosmic energy must have been produced which have no parallel today......

76/Pick

Pretty sweet Doc, I would have loved to see them in 76.

How about a pick?

7/31/82, Manor Downs from the 30 Trips Box. I am channeling an 82 show for #51.

Nice Story Doc

Thanks for the visuals.

It happens to best of us.. you try to time everything perfectly and it kicks in way before your ready to follow the yellow brick road in the land of Oz. That cracked me up resulting in a waste of some perfectly good coffee.

As for 51, there are some good sounding boards from 82 and Jerry's voice is mostly in fine shape compared to what was to become. I get the feeling one of these days we are going to get a Bruce show too. With all the back and forth on the Dave's 50 page Halloween 91? Hopefully we will get a good one. I'd really like to see a banana box or something very, ,very old and very very primal. It's been a long time since we got anything earlier than 69. If we get anything discussed, I'd be happy. Gotta admit, when the 77 came I was simply not in the mood for another 77. Still, it's an interesting release and I am sure I will warm up to it once I am fully in the mood. I hope they dial back on repetitive offerings a bit though and reach just beyond their comfort zone. At this point, to me, that's the sweet spot.

I would really like to know exactly what is in the vault and the quality of the tapes. Just a peeksie. After this heat wave we are going to step up efforts on that tunnel under the vault.

I'm going to play something with a Cold Rain and Snow. Replacing an exterior window in this heat has turned me into a giant, surly raison.

Frost 1982.....

would make a great release. My favorite year at the Frost was 1982.

7/31/82

If you haven't listened to this show in a while give it a go. It is a great show. Summer 82 was hot! Have we had an 82 Dave's yet? I don't think so, let's do it Dave!

9-27-76

Just finished 87664.sbd.miller.

Yes, I’ll take a cleaned up official release.

Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud.....

Morning, rockers!!!

Today I say be playing 4/13/71 Scranton, because......well........51!

I know some folks won't be happy with that. I'm not one of them...........

Thanks, Dave!!!

Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?

Rock on!!!!

Doc
To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders.....

#51

Think I will wait until this one lands next week. Looking forward to it and then at some point a new box.

7-13-85

Playing now and sounds pretty good.

A Plangentized/Normanized Box of summer ‘85 next year for 2025 would be grate.
There’s enough material for 2 Boxes if it can all be cleaned up. Some shows have that buzzing or distortion that I had previously read somewhere was caused by a loose cable or something in Phil’s system.

Alligator

11-11-67

11/11/67

That show is in the top bracket. Up there with the likes of 3/1/69 and 5/2/70 if you ask me. Or even if you don't.

Daverock

Are you thinking of 11-10-67 from 30 Trips?
Yes, top bracket.
Especially the vinyl release.

11-11-67 is also good, but needs to be cleaned up.

Cnkd

Doh....yes, I am ! I have heard 11/11/67 and thought it was really good - but not for many years.

6/9/73

Who is up for a little 6/9/73?

I have been pounding 6/10 quite a bit, but have only listened to 6/9 once.

The HCS Box is definitely in the top three for me at this point. Love it!

6/9/73

Hell yea, I'll dive down that rabbit hole with you.

They played the PITB from this one on Satellite radio about a week ago and I wondered why I have not hit it since the initial listen.

They played the Stanger opener from 11/30/80 today and I felt like diving into that show for a repeat also.

I'm waiting for Dave's 51 to get my religion also. No offense meant doc but I do find myself reveling in that first Full Norman listen.

Cone Kid - the coffee is strong, enjoying some good Kenyan on ice during the really hot days. Got in my kayak for the first time in more than a year. My broken wing is beginning to mend, but now it's very sore.

Hope all is well with you crazies as the dog days of summer march on.

6-9-73

Started playing it in the car today.
Will take a few commutes to finish.

An awesome Box it is.

Iced coffee

Sounds refreshing Jim.

I’ve been meaning to make some cold brew coffee and see how that tastes.
May roast some beans this weekend.

Someone regifted me some Starbucks French roast beans. He thought they were too strong. I thought that they were under roasted.

6/9/73

Thanks for joining in guys. Hope the shoulder is healing well Jim. Been drinking some Oberon tonight Conekid. Summer is flying by again.

Love these two shows. Not breaking any new ground hear, but my god, 6/9 and 6/10 don't take a back seat to any shows.
The China Rider, He's Gone into Truckin, Playing, fabulous! Yes, might be better than E72. He's Gone had that great Jam at the end that just makes me thankful for this band.

TTB on their way to Minneapolis next weekend. Been talking to my wife about going. Roughly $300 for the two of us to go with floor seats. Would love to know if they are worth that kind of dough.

Beverages

Yes DV, Oberon is plenty in my house.
Wish it was available all year.

Nice cup of dark roast coffee right now though.

Also just put 2 carafes of water and tea bags in the sun for some sun tea later today.
One is 2 bags green tea, 2 bags black tea. The other is 4 bags decaf green tea.
Got to cut back on my caffeine intake come evening, so go with the decaf green.

TTB

Vguy and others would probably say totally worth the money

I am unconvinced even after two shows

However

It's a nice thing to experience with your better half

Make some points in the relationship game

7-27-73

Get on it while the night is still young….

Happy anniversary.
Just imagine young Hendrixfreak attending……

Then...

flash 51 years later
he's at Red Rocks seeing TTB
Nice!
Cheers HF and all

TTB, et al

Saw TTB last year with Los Lobos, this year with Little Feat. Both shows were outstanding. Derek Trucks is a savant. Susan certainly no slouch, either. Worth $150 per ticket? Depends on one's financial situation.

Wife and I had a great time at a Bruce Hornsby show last week. He's still so good, his band always tight and having fun. Earlier saw Gov't Mule, Bonnie Raitt, plus Dead & Co. at the Sphere a couple weeks ago.

I love how well-behaved deadheads can take over a large city like Las Vegas for a few days. Looking at the gawkers who don't "get" the deadheads reminds me of those 1967 bus tours in the Haight pointing out all the filthy, miserable hippies to startled vacationers. Pretty hilarious!

I had a blast in LV. The visuals in the Sphere were mind-blowing, seats vibrating and bouncing during Rhythm Devils, just a great show all around.

Staying at the hotel attached to the Sphere, every time the elevator door opened, I said, "Oh, no. Deadheads!" I waited for the expected frowns before admitting my shared allegiance, eliciting hugs and high-fives. What a privilege to be part of such a kind community!

So grateful to be seeing live shows again after the musical desert during the Covid lockdowns. As Joni said, "Don't it always seem to go, you dont know what you got 'til it's gone."

TTB

Thanks for the info guys. I better step up to the plate and buy the tickets. They are playing at the renovated armory in downtown Minneapolis. Seems like a cool venue.

I'm WoW'd🙏🏼

I'm a shiny new member, never had the privilege to go on tour, discovered the dead way too late in my life unfortunately. Always been on the search for the best song but there's too many as I've learned, watching you guys chat whooping off dates is like me talking RC car parts I getting all technical but it's so impressive and cool and now with those dates I'm going to go hunt them down and see what's so great about them and learn on this never-ending journey nice to meet y'all hope I didn't say too much! 😄

Welcome IcedRider

Welcome, always good to see a new face.

Super excited about this new box. OB? I think you did this tour a while back, so you must be excited?

How about 10/17/72 from the still not sold out LTTR box.
Who is with me?

Howdy Do!

Ice rider, and good ole DV, oh, and Bolo too, and, and, “all my friends, come around….”
It’s like old home daze lol
All that’s missing is Jimmy.
Glad yer back on water, but easy on that busted wing Hoss ; )

I have not “done the tour” YET, DV, but I’ve heard all the included shows except the third one?
Back when, 78 was another “fly over” because I didn’t put the work in, and relied too much on written nonsense. I started out getting weened on lots of 78 boots at the then current time, so that and negative comments had me uninterested, “until…until, until I say, that fateful day”, no not SF in ruins, but until DaP 37!
I’m sure I’ve pontificated enough on glorious DaP 37 (along with 43 and 49), my favs from last few years,(thanks so much D & C= Dave and company lol) but 37 really shown me the light and got me down the spring 78 rabbit hole! And of course being a audio idiot, this tours Betty’s are Magnifico! So, yeah, I’m psyched fo sho!

New blood, awesome!
Better late than never icerider!
Don’t be a feared, we don’t bite..usually lol
Only rule perhaps, don’t be a dick!
Best advice. Don’t read too much on the internet lol
Make up your own damn mind, there is no such thing as right or wrong. Just many flavors as Doc would say. Learn what you like by listening, not reading what others like. Comments make good starting points, the rest is up to you…
I like to read about shows after I’ve checked em out to get my own opinion.
If you get confused, just listen to the music play!

Jump on in, the waters fine!

Edit: DV, I’ve only streamed TTB recently, from the Greek.
Totally enjoyed it. Not going to get weird and go on tour, but I bet they’d be awesome to see live at least once! In fact, I bet their even better live.
WTH, it’s only money, and hey, you get to have a nice night with your Other One!