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  • Oroborous
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    Duke video

    Finally checked it last night, wow.
    Puts a whole new spin on things!
    These shows just got even better…

    Definitely overheads, but that doesn’t surprise as it’s the first 2 or three shows that sound different.

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    Drums and microphones

    Check the 4-12-78 video, maybe there’s a good shot of the drum setup.

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    4/14/78

    See how this one stands up..
    Curious about the sound stage and recording consistency?

    EDIT: this one mos def moved up a notch from the one previous time I heard it.
    Really sweet show, perhaps most well played consistent of all so far?
    Perhaps same with the mix/audio…definitely cymbals now, and everyone is in their proper soundstage position etc, good sheet Mon!
    Overall, Maybe not some of the previous fireworks but very few lows. Only Ooops, and a small one, I can think of was in the otherwise delightful Dancing! It’s like their coalescing or morphing into a cohesive beast, but one with patience and finesse, and having a fine time doing so!
    Eager to see how the 15 resonates after this one?
    Mañana…

    Overhead mics: yeah, I’m well aware what they are/for, i was trying to imply that “if” she hadn’t used them at some of the shows, then that might explain less prevalent cymbals…or maybe they were used but turned down…
    since the pictures aren’t dated it’s hard to determine. In fact the pic on the last page shows Bob playing an Ibanez Musician Series guitar, which from the pictures I’ve seen (if dated correctly) he used from 5/5/78 until Egypt. So is that picture not from this tour, or did he use it at some point on the tour?
    I’ve seen pics of Jerry trying one out also, but no idea when?

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    4/15 Dap sounds better?

    Rolling into the 15th hot! After second set from the 14th.

    B.E. is all over the place. Funny at times! LIG cooks!!

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    Drum mic's

    Among others they would have a mic over each drummer either hanging or on stands four feet above each drum kit since sound rises from the drums, cymbals.

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    4 11 78

    Finished 10 8 89 and 4 14 78 earlier today

    Scarlet Fire

    GBtGD

  • Oroborous
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    4/12/78

    Hmmmm?
    Another quirky good but inconsistent show?
    Definitely a creeper. Starts a bit off (technically and otherwise) but by mid set they start settling in and syncing up. Second set, like much of this tour may not be flawless, but their is some fine playing and highlights!. And I’ll have to find that video cause wondering WTH was up with JG at the end etc? Wow?
    These shows are hard to pin down, interesting run.
    14 mañana…

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    True dat

    Absolutely no noise reduction ON THE RECORDING, but that doesn’t mean some kind of processing on the final release, and, it seemed like 4/12 sounded much different, especially in the frequency spectrum we’ve been discussing.
    There are other ways in mastering to treat noise beyond basic noise reduction, like, not your 80s tape deck Dolby…
    I’ve been looking at pics and some don’t seem to have overhead drum mics where others certainly do. But haven’t dug deep so don’t know dates that correspond to pics etc. Just wonder if that was something Betty was messing with as she’s known for her mic placement perhaps above all else…
    Also noticed JG moved into the center, and Bob to the left, (as per their stage orientation at the time) of the soundstage on maybe the 10th? Before that they were switched, and the 12 all kinds of things going on lol,
    Always fun to try and dissect things!

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    Noise redution?

    No where in the notes does it state any noise reduction was used in the reel recording of any of the shows in the box.

    Will be doing the 15th tomorrow!

    Going to have to listen to the 11th again as I thought they were a little out of sync...

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    4/12/78

    Previously, Only heard this one once, thought it was good but overshadowed by the 11, 15 and 16th…let’s see after proper sit down if it matches the hype…

    Think 4/11 was tops so far, but 4/6 seemed to stand out too. These shows are sneaky good. Meaning sometimes you have to wait for it. The dynamics are often impressive. Not freight train Dead like you might expect from this period, but often nice subtle build ups/peaks. You can tell their having fun, getting loose and digging the smaller venues.
    Really tasty when their all in sync etc, (sometimes the looseness is a tad much) and 4/11 is a good example of being synced up!
    And DG has been improving nicely as the tour has progressed and has some real moments here.
    That Sunrise is one of the most powerful I’ve heard, and some songs she’s carrying the lead vocals. Meaning on shared vocals, she is often the strongest most consistent, which allows J &B more latitude.
    And the sound is great on all so far, but I too will compare with 37, which I recall is the benchmark of this tour…

    I do understand 4winds “cymbal” comments. Don’t have torrents to compare, but they aren’t prevalently splashing all over so ?…
    It doesn’t seem like an issue to me, and probably wouldn’t notice it if I wasn’t trying to…guessing mastering, probably added some shimmer to the torrents versus some noise reduction, tape restoration, age etc, or, perhaps artifacts from different machines used to record copies from the masters, versus Bettys reel decks and masters…

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Sugar Magnolia > Scarlet is sublime

Sunshine Daydream is sublime

The rest just doesn't do it for me

Especially after 7 7 89's glory

You had to be there I guess

I haven't given 7 17 a full, focused listening in a long time, nor 7 19

Full and focused is like when you can listen to the whole thing at high volume and NO interruptions of any kind

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Madison Square Garden

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1993-03-17

The singing man is at his song...

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...could not caution all, I still might warn a few...1978-04-14 in blacksburg , VA
don't lend your hand to raise
no flag atop no ship of fools

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1993-03-18

I was at this one. Not Fade Away, house lights come on? Deputies looking around the side stage(clock on the wall says its time to go) band keeps playing on...MG signing for the Deaf Section right next to me, great seats thank you Calico (Irish says hi, the mighty Quinn, P.) encore: I Fought The Law, and the law won....

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Bob Dylan

Blonde on Blonde

for the first time in a long stretch

Wow.

From March 65 through June 66 he released

Bringing it all back home
Highway 61 revisited
Blonde on blonde

Amazing

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Beacon Theatre

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Elko (disc 2) np Seven Story Mountain

Yeah PF - truly amazing that trio of albums Dylan released in a little more than a year.

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...to the Fox on 1978-04-10, so let's just continue this '78 thang...

3/18/1993 yup made that thursday pm show, finished work in DC, checked-in to hotel, couple of beers at hotel bar, couple more beers in shakedown street, few more inside CAP center, but damn, don't remember too much outside of the >>HIAB, Broken Arrow, Loose Lucy, TMNS but not the 2nd set...
oh well, I remember beating the Friday traffic on 95 northbound abit hung lol!

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Been working on these last couple daze…
11 is ok, but after all the previous fireworks, perhaps a bit flat or subdued?
12: ditto, like the 11 better though.
14: more like it. First set perhaps takes some settling, but by the big set finale, the band we’ve become used to over summer of 89 is back!
And the second set is thus another beauty eh!

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Good, but I think 14 is better.
But they all bow down at the feet of the master 10/16/89, which I finished also and am still digging in my mind this AM!

Onward to Philly! Cause ya just gotta poke around…

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on 10/15/89 - have spun following night (Nightfall of Diamonds) several times last few weeks.

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Newcastle City Hall

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...an enormously (is that a word?) long-time since I've pulled this one out to actively listen,
and what is this the X-factor you speak about Dave...?
@ Duke on April 12, 1978
[internet archive identifier 149531 (addeddate 2020-04-15)]

WOW!!!

hey now, maybe just maybe, when you release a BOXSET,
maybe you could consider releasing TWO separate shows instead
of ALWAYS just ONE show.
After all, it is an 8 show box release...

I'll be passing on the BOXSET, but will pick-up this X-factor...
...and keep up the good work!

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As part of my side trip into Bob Dylan's big three plus a compilation, I am listening to Postcards again the first time in a while.

Such great songs.

Tragically, the title (and some of the lyrics) refers to an episode of evil in our nation's history. Ugh.

Bob Dylan: a titan in the world of music and culture.

Luckily I got to attend three of his performances

1986 (not with GD)
1987 with GD
2000 at the Gorge when he opened for Phil Lesh and Friends

That show in 2000 was really good

Also worth checking out is the 1966 Live Recordings by Bob Dylan. 36 cds for your coin. It might be worth checking the set lists before buying first though - they don't vary much.

Alternatively, you could go for the Bootleg Series Volume 4, titled "The Royal Albert Hall" concert named after a real bootleg, but actually featuring the show in Manchester 5/17/66 - the famous "Judas!" show. But if you get the box, you do get the great real Albert Hall shows from later in the month -including much slurry talk from Bob onstage. Great shows.

what a run around from amazon jeff's india help this morning.

Order the Joni, both, from Amazon because of free shipping.

Some odd things come up about being called for the delivery and special instructions of getting ready for it's delivery, like padding on the floor, clearing the passage ways.

I dig a little deeper and they have both of these items (records and cd's) weighing 1100 lbs each!

So I used chat to inform them of the error on page and to verify stuff would be coming regular mail and no one was going to show up with an 18 wheeler, handing me a box of cd's.

Over an hour and 10-12 transfers to "people who handle that", not one seem to understand the simple fact that the records and cds did NOT weigh a TON! And all I wanted was assurances the stuff was coming as it should.

No warm fuzzy feeling, may have to cancel and reorder from Joni. (then I get the "free" print,,,,,while supplies last)

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Dennis,
Yes, the UK Amazon site tells me that an adult has to be present for the delivery! Where will I find one of those?

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And I was driving by the Santa Barbara Mission on my way to the carwash as Mission in the Rain played. Whatever metaphor one may assign to the word "Mission", the coincidence made me smile, smile, smile. And on this day of days.

Daverock, I recently saw Cat Power perform the 5/7/66 show in a small theater. Highly recommended to all who have the chance.

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10/18/89: good
10/19/89: better
10/20/89 best ???
We shall see sports fans as after a long fly ball to right center the kid might be looking at a ITPH leading to a DHB…
Onward!

EDIT: weellll? 10/20/89 was working hard to best the 19, but the flubbed Fire perhaps holds this one back?

This run was weird? Sometimes brilliance on par with any else this year, otger times inconsistent? I’m not sure what they should do with these?
Don’t think they merit stand alone mini box, which is good because at only one a year we’re probably down to less than 20 remaining!! One or two might work as Dave’s but don’t think he’s used multitracks just for DaP yet?
One or two could fit in a 89 fall tour box with say 9/29, 2 from Jersey, 2 from Philly, 2 from Charlotte, and remaining Miami. Yes that’s eight, but some are probably short enough to fit on 2 discs.
I’ll consider mote of that after I finish the tour.
So, onto Charlotte!

I have the 5-CD Movie Soundtrack in folders by date on my music player.
Started last night and am going through it in order.

Watched The GD Movie and bonus DVD last weekend.

Unfortunate that Dave/Rhino did not (so far) choose the honor the 50th anniversary of the glorious year of 1974 Grateful Dead with a Plangentized/Normanized Winterland October 1974 “The Last Ones” Box of complete audio and video.

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BigBrownie I have only heard one track by Catpower - a cover of "Satisfaction" on a cheapo compilation of Stones covers. Slowed down, and played with just an acoustic guitar, it's one of the best covers of their songs I've ever heard. So, yes, I'll look out for that Dylan show she has done - cheers.

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University Of Montana

Happy wake and bake y'all!

Peace

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...the radar...the 1978-04-08 show @ Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Jacksonville, FL...
...right out of the chute with a sweet sounding 1st set
check it out on the: archive/identifier 150560 (addeddate 2020-09-10)

everyone enjoy your weekend!

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Pittsburgh Civic Arena [2nd Set]

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last night on the anniversary of Jerry's death, we attended a Graham Nash show where he was storytelling all night on each tune's origin. Nash discussed how CSNY were stuck on who to play lead on their new tune, when David Crosby offered the Dead were in the next studio. CSNY asked Jerry to play pedal on 'Teach your Children.'

Garcia ripped his classic pedal steal solo in one take, to the delight of everyone. Nash paid Jerry with a fender guitar he had purchased in Arizona, which Garcia promptly placed an alligator sticker on. And the rest is history. A great night of music and stories in Omaha from Graham Nash last night.

"Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself."

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Wow, Oroboros. What a setlist! Must have been a great show. If I read that right there were 3 encores with 4 songs. And the Alligator story too. Bonus.
Cheers

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It was a fantastic night.

And Graham brought that up about the anniversary of Jerry's death and spoke of Garcia's genius and generosity as he told the tale. Paid homage to the Dead as well and the crowd roared. Several stories of Joni Mitchell, David Crosby, Stephen Stills, the Hollies, Neil Young, and more as he explained the circumstances surrounding writing songs and the process. Fun stuff for us gray heads.

Addendum, Graham's excellent four piece band included two young multi-instrumentalists switching off and adding color, power, swell, and nuance to the show. Wonderful evening.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Phil Lesh

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Don’t recall this one standing out?
Let’s find out…

Nice tale Oro other!
Sounds like an awesome show.

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"The Alabama Box : 1950's and 1960s Oddball Labels". 8 cds of grassroots, primitive rock n' roll from Bear Family. One of a series of regionally based box sets of obscure rockabilly, rock n' roll etc. Sound quality wise it makes "Elvis At Sun" sound like "Dark Side of The Moon". No need to get hung up on that though - put some dirt in your eye.

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Madison Square Garden

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Best of Brubeck
Stan Getz and Oscar Peterson Trio
C McB & Inside strait Live at VV
Kenny Burrell Midnight Blue

Now, Jazz for a mellow morning

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‘Music is the healing force of the universe’ - Albert Ayler. I’m streaming this, but I must go and dig out the ‘Holy Ghost’ box by him on John Fahey’s Revenant label. It’s hiding upstairs somewhere.

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The Singles double cd by Sun Ra. As it's 10 years ago this week since I saw them - the Marshall Allen led band - at Ronnie Scotts, I thought I would revisit the cds and records I have by them over the next 7 days.

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...back from 1978 today; it's oakland 1976-10-09 set 2, just need a little change from '78 [archive/identifier 12519]

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10/14/94
In between my repeated listens of 51.

I like Vince probably a little more than most, but Samba in the Rain is not my favorite song....
:)

I am going to listen to each of the September 90 MSGs in sequence.

I am very glad 9/16/90 was released as a Dickus Pickus. I am really looking forward to hearing that again.

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Did both Charlotte shows yesterday.
Like much of this tour: really good except there seems to be one tune, every show, that has issues? And being that there getting more comfortable with the midi, they occasionally go for it and not quite hit it.
Brent had some ruff songs in Charlotte, but sounds good now on Little Light.
Ok, let’s see how this one shakes down, and then hopefully I can finish with the 25…
Onward!

Edit: best way PF. Lol, I can’t seem to just listen to a show now, it’s like I have to hear the whole tour. Hey, it’s an obsession but it’s pleasing ; )

DBL Edit: 24th more like previous tour consistency, except somehow they FU return to PITB? And the 25th, oh yeah!
After doing this tour again, it’s easy to see why Dave picked what he has SO FAR! And yeah, this tour ain’t always clean and shiny supermodel dead, but personally I dig the looseness and overall psychedelic vibes.
Yeah I know the midi isn’t for everyone, but if they had it back in 69 you can bet they’d have been into it. And yes this tour isn’t quite as tight, on all fronts, as spring 90, or even much of summer tour, but that’s why it stands out to me, in a good way.
Oh, and lest you get turned off by the vocal centric arc mixes…MULTITRACK!
These can be significantly cleaned up!
Listen to how good Nightfall and Miami sound…

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Fox Theatre
St. Louis